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Old 10-26-2017, 02:38 AM   #9
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what an embarrassing name. ACE..
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Old 10-26-2017, 06:30 AM   #10
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Ever scored off a screen? You can thank broken defense for that bucket.
Not true, it seems this flaw was only with a particular set, which they've semi removed, if u don't look to cheese then this isn't the case

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Old 10-26-2017, 06:38 AM   #11
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This is why Scott doesn't stream. Every year I'm going to stream and teach you guys the in's and out's. He did it last year for about 1 hour total and went on twitter to critsize real NBA teams defense. He can't stream because he doesn't trust his own product he can't make a statement about X because he knows it's(hey everybody, I'm going to say it) "BROKEN".

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Old 10-26-2017, 06:43 AM   #12
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Yea AI defense in this game is terrible. Im still seeing my players no matter what team I am on, run underneath the rim, leaving 3 pt shooters wide open.
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Old 10-26-2017, 03:37 PM   #13
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Abusing money plays is just cheese, though, not unlike abusing spin dunks or the eurostep in previous games. 2K should look at this and improve the AI defense so it's less exploitable, but who would want to actually play like this? If you want to score 100 points in the paint and shoot 80%, you might as well just max out the User sliders and drop the CPU's to zero.
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Old 10-26-2017, 05:16 PM   #14
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Not true, it seems this flaw was only with a particular set, which they've semi removed, if u don't look to cheese then this isn't the case

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Sam is, I think, still generating a 5 out set through the following sequence: Warriors motion cuts, call iso for guard before half court, call PnR high at top of the key.

From there he can run the PnR, or PnF, or slip the screen with an icon pass that controls the receiver, or run user handoffs around the key to generate motion and break down the defense with switches and bad rotations.
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Old 10-26-2017, 06:18 PM   #15
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Well I don't know if it's related to help defense sliders or what but the AI seems to easy to abuse in general - especially off the PnR. Superstar - default sliders.
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Abusing money plays is just cheese, though, not unlike abusing spin dunks or the eurostep in previous games. 2K should look at this and improve the AI defense so it's less exploitable, but who would want to actually play like this? If you want to score 100 points in the paint and shoot 80%, you might as well just max out the User sliders and drop the CPU's to zero.
The statement in bold is a cop out. Visual Concepts Blogged about improved Defense the ability for the CPU AI to adjust with the all new "Play set and Action Recognition". He specifically stated a "stress test" and the CPU AI failed miserably. I have done the same test and found different results, but if you have logic in your game to recognize sets and action and they do not recognize sets and actions, it's not a money play it's a fail of the system.
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