NBA 2K21 Graphics Comparison (4K Ultra HD) - PS4 Pro Vs. PS5 W/ HDR and No HDR

[ksuttonjr76]

Quote: Originally Posted by allBthere

I think that's exactly how it SHOULD work. I'm in film/tv and shoot all the time. When I shoot, I record LOG format which is a flat profile which is then colour graded and finished. It's the same thing with HDR and games... you are either 'exporting' to a REC.709 standard colour/contrast space or wide gamut 2020 spec for example. Those standards exist for a reason and that would mean that my export of an 90% exposed image would be 90% exposed on your calibrated monitor. So if one games looks perfect (in my case NBA 2k21 did out of the box), other games should too as they are all working in the same defined limitations. Sure you have room for personal preference as well as the rare 'outlier' (think the dark game of thrones episode), but overall a good image should translate time and time again using the same device. Different games shouldn't have to alter picture settings unless something weird is going on. In this case, something weird IS going on between living rooms, but there shouldn't be a massive shift in image quality BETWEEN games in the same living room if they are both HDR 4k optimized games.

Oh no. I meant universal TV settings out of the box. No, I agree with you. If I tweak my settings for one game, than those settings should be "universal" for my other games. I might make some slight tweaks to the in-game settings, but TV settings are definitely set at the moment.

[DayshawnDaBeast]

This just shows current gen and last gen is the same game just one with and without HDR . Graphically that is, gameplay looks the same too . Too bad you didn’t record this with a Series X , the Auto HDR would’ve made them identical 🤦🏿🤦🏿


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[ChaseB]

Quote: Originally Posted by DayshawnDaBeast

This just shows current gen and last gen is the same game just one with and without HDR . Graphically that is, gameplay looks the same too . Too bad you didn’t record this with a Series X , the Auto HDR would’ve made them identical 🤦🏿🤦🏿 Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

You think the PS4 version looks the same as the PS5 version!? Fair enough.

[ChaseB]

Quote: Originally Posted by allBthere

I think that's exactly how it SHOULD work. I'm in film/tv and shoot all the time. When I shoot, I record LOG format which is a flat profile which is then colour graded and finished. It's the same thing with HDR and games... you are either 'exporting' to a REC.709 standard colour/contrast space or wide gamut 2020 spec for example. Those standards exist for a reason and that would mean that my export of an 90% exposed image would be 90% exposed on your calibrated monitor. So if one games looks perfect (in my case NBA 2k21 did out of the box), other games should too as they are all working in the same defined limitations. Sure you have room for personal preference as well as the rare 'outlier' (think the dark game of thrones episode), but overall a good image should translate time and time again using the same device. Different games shouldn't have to alter picture settings unless something weird is going on. In this case, something weird IS going on between living rooms, but there shouldn't be a massive shift in image quality BETWEEN games in the same living room if they are both HDR 4k optimized games.

All totally valid and fair. For some reason though some games do just struggle with HDR. Red Dead Redemption 2 I remember being weird and not looking quite right. The Resident Evil 2 Remake I felt was a little hard to find something that worked too. I don't know enough about any of this to quite know why, but we have seen some games in the past just not quite handle HDR right regardless of how well your actual TV and all that are calibrated.

[allBthere]

Quote: Originally Posted by ChaseB

All totally valid and fair. For some reason though some games do just struggle with HDR. Red Dead Redemption 2 I remember being weird and not looking quite right. The Resident Evil 2 Remake I felt was a little hard to find something that worked too. I don't know enough about any of this to quite know why, but we have seen some games in the past just not quite handle HDR right regardless of how well your actual TV and all that are calibrated.

yes I fired up RDD2 just last week on my OG ps4 and it looked terrible w/ HDR. I didn't even bother to read up on if OG's can do HDR or not, I just shut it off as I was essentially killing time waiting for the SX to show up.

I do remember that being an issue, and it seemed to be a problem universally?

With 2k21, people are reporting wildly different experiences depending on their TV's ... here I have to admit I don't know the process developers use to 'finish' and don't know how involved it is.

In video its incredibly simple using all the established software

[Daddy123]

I have tried 3 methods

HDR
HDR to SDR
and then non HDR

Non-HDR looked the best to me. 2K will need to have in game settings like other big games when it comes to HDR so people can play it accordingly

[Rmm80]

The ps5 version looks great but the solid jersey colours are a bit off for some reason. The reds really do look pinkish and the blacks are greyish (but only on the jerseys, not elsewhere)

[ChaseB]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rmm80

The ps5 version looks great but the solid jersey colours are a bit off for some reason. The reds really do look pinkish and the blacks are greyish (but only on the jerseys, not elsewhere)

Yeah that's been a 2K thing for as long as I can remember, at least on HD consoles.