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Old 10-29-2010, 12:47 AM   #57
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Re: Rant: Helping you out of necessity and insipid rage

I think the majority of people here that adjust sliders, do it not because the game is too difficult, but because certain aspects are unbalanced or not realistic. Like for EG, increasing CPU shot sliders, because CPU doesn't shoot too well, or decreasing it, because they shoot unrealistically at a higher difficulty.

Yes I am pretty sure there are occasions where some people can't be bothered to practice on something, for EG, ISO to get past defender, so they decrease the ON BALL D slider or something, but the majority here, including myself, adjust the sliders to make the game more balanced and enjoyable.

Editing rosters and sliders makes a HUGE difference in the gameplay.

It really depends how you want to play. If you want a more arcadish experience and having it more challenging due to unrealistic shots going in by CPU, then by all means leave sliders alone and play at a higher difficulty, but there is definitely nothing wrong with adjusting sliders for more balanced and realistic gameplay.

That's the beauty of sliders though, adjusting the game to the way you want.

If you want a really challenging experience, but unrealistic, you can just use the pre-set 'Casual' sliders and HOF difficulty

Others might want a balanced and realistic as possible experience, hence the slider adjustments.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:49 AM   #58
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I really can't beat the heat on HoF lol. I guess my offense is ok at best but my main problem is there are shots that to me is just impossible to stop most of the time and I really don't know how to defend that (contested jumpshots and contact in the paint shots). The worst part is if they do miss a shot they will most likely get an offensive board and dunk it but this probably is my fault.

But what I really like about the hall of fame is that I don't have to have the "oh **** I should stop driving now cause my PiP is more than 50% already" mentality since the difficulty will produce a simulation percentage that we did not get in the past 2k games.
Lmao, i'm really mad at myself for losing to them in double OT. I really hate the lakers and I should have practiced with them before I started playing but my ego thought better of that idea, trying to show off for here, lol. Lamar Odom gets hut after hitting a 3 late in the fourth during my comeback and I just felt the momentum shift slowly to the Heat. I got stats and box scores for you.

What I will say is that starting Shannon Brown at the point helps a lot with the D. I had Kobe guarding Arroyo and Monica's fiancee guarded flash. Not a bad idea. Fisher and Barnes didn't get in till the second half during my defensive stand and my 3pt onslaught.

Advice wise, I would say that 42 and 32 power for Kobe is amazing if you know post moves and use icon lead passing. 23 Pin for Artest actually does a great job getting Gasol good looks especially when Big Z is in the game. 34 Quick for Odom gives you about a million options because it's a 1/4 low set. 1/4 Low sets are my personal favorite (i used to run em in traveling teams back in the day) and breaking them on purpose puts the starting 5 in 1 of their top 2 scoring positions according to their tendencies. I'm mad I lost that game! Damn! With a little of practice, I would have been able to take advantage of Jumaine Jones playing Artest and Matt Barnes. Grrr, pictures in my next post.

My fault I couldn't get the W.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:57 AM   #59
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Lmao, i'm really mad at myself for losing to them in double OT. I really hate the lakers and I should have practiced with them before I started playing but my ego thought better of that idea, trying to show off for here, lol. Lamar Odom gets hut after hitting a 3 late in the fourth during my comeback and I just felt the momentum shift slowly to the Heat. I got stats and box scores for you.

What I will say is that starting Shannon Brown at the point helps a lot with the D. I had Kobe guarding Arroyo and Monica's fiancee guarded flash. Not a bad idea. Fisher and Barnes didn't get in till the second half during my defensive stand and my 3pt onslaught.

Advice wise, I would say that 42 and 32 power for Kobe is amazing if you know post moves and use icon lead passing. 23 Pin for Artest actually does a great job getting Gasol good looks especially when Big Z is in the game. 34 Quick for Odom gives you about a million options because it's a 1/4 low set. 1/4 Low sets are my personal favorite (i used to run em in traveling teams back in the day) and breaking them on purpose puts the starting 5 in 1 of their top 2 scoring positions according to their tendencies. I'm mad I lost that game! Damn! With a little of practice, I would have been able to take advantage of Jumaine Jones playing Artest and Matt Barnes. Grrr, pictures in my next post.

My fault I couldn't get the W.
Haha at this point I would be happy if I can get the game as close as possible even if I don't win hahaha. My main problem is I can't shut anyone down in the big 3 and I can't really score consistently with the other players other than kobe and gasol (maybe odom sometimes but I can't use ron's game to my advantage).
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:57 AM   #60
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Lmao, i'm really mad at myself for losing to them in double OT. I really hate the lakers and I should have practiced with them before I started playing but my ego thought better of that idea, trying to show off for here, lol. Lamar Odom gets hut after hitting a 3 late in the fourth during my comeback and I just felt the momentum shift slowly to the Heat. I got stats and box scores for you.

What I will say is that starting Shannon Brown at the point helps a lot with the D. I had Kobe guarding Arroyo and Monica's fiancee guarded flash. Not a bad idea. Fisher and Barnes didn't get in till the second half during my defensive stand and my 3pt onslaught.

Advice wise, I would say that 42 and 32 power for Kobe is amazing if you know post moves and use icon lead passing. 23 Pin for Artest actually does a great job getting Gasol good looks especially when Big Z is in the game. 34 Quick for Odom gives you about a million options because it's a 1/4 low set. 1/4 Low sets are my personal favorite (i used to run em in traveling teams back in the day) and breaking them on purpose puts the starting 5 in 1 of their top 2 scoring positions according to their tendencies. I'm mad I lost that game! Damn! With a little of practice, I would have been able to take advantage of Jumaine Jones playing Artest and Matt Barnes. Grrr, pictures in my next post.

My fault I couldn't get the W.
Damn Double-OT loss.

I have more box scores (for bench players) and quarter by quarter stats too if you guys want to see it.

In the end, it was just too much LeBron and too much fatigue. (Actually had it on 10 minute quarters this time).
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:01 AM   #61
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Damn Double-OT loss.

I have more box scores (for bench players) and quarter by quarter stats too if you guys want to see it.

In the end, it was just too much LeBron and too much fatigue. (Actually had it on 10 minute quarters this time).
They got more fouls which is not really surprising haha. Its really wierd that they have more free throw attempts when you clearly drive the ball more to the basket. Oh well I guess that's how life is lol....
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They got more fouls which is not really surprising haha. Its really wierd that they have more free throw attempts when you clearly drive the ball more to the basket. Oh well I guess that's how life is lol....
Really, they drove more than I did. LeBron in the second half, missed 2 threes and then decided to devour anyone who got in his way, which would have been fine if Wade didn't try to do the same thing. Character got sleeping and just got orally violated by dwade. And 1. It wasn't pretty. Double move to the basket got foul calls too. Odom had 4 fouls in the third quarter for bad help D.
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Now I sound like a jerk. Just continue to write those tips. They're good points.

P.S.

Why exactly did you put insipid in your title? A pun? An oxymoron? I'm serious and not trying to sound like a jerk. I know its close to an oxymoron but its not. Is there a term for it. I understand what you wrote and it seemed like you were trying to make an oxymoron. Maybe there is a word out there for something that is close to an oxymoron. My English not so good.
I asked my 11th grade english teacher what the specific term is called (she's on twitter!), she said it's a "literary ploy."

I put it there because I wanted people to have a certain feel/emotion before they read the entire post. Also after you've seen enough results, you can tell when people don't read your entire post. They just see the title, skim a couple of lines and then come up with a short-sided opinion. In actuality, those people's action strengthen my point. Those are the kind of people who are looking for a short cut. These people won't nor want to learn anything, they just change the game.
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When a game is too difficult it is usually a result of me not being good enough as opposed to being overly difficult. While I do lower the difficulty if I am having problems with multiple aspects, if I am struggling with TOV's I do not lower the slider to compensate. First I consider what I am doing wrong. I learn from my mistakes. But I do not do stay at lower difficulties. I learn the game mechanics and move up.

Adjusting the sliders is a way to lower the difficulty in specific areas of the game, but that is not the only purpose. As I said I play association games exclusively. My team are the Wizards. Now I am sure you are aware that they kind of suck. When I play a sports game it is not because I enjoy videogames, it is because I am sports fan, so realism takes precedence over everything else. Including my success. Without adjusting sliders I was not getting realistic results. FG % was off, TOVs were not accurate, too many offensive rebounds, etc. Most importantly I was doing too well.
As the Wizards I was on pace for a 4th place finish (conference, not division). It just did not feel like actual basketball. More often than I like I was getting blocks on perimeter jumpshots. Fouls were never a factor. So I adjusted sliders.

The result after my slider tweaks were: 1.) Most importantly I limped to a 36 win season, 2.) Wall shot 43% from the field but got to the line often, Gil shot 44% (38% from 3), Nick Young was a liability on defense, I excelled in transition but struggled in the halfcourt set pretty often, long story short my stats were pretty close to what you could expect from the Wizards.

Did I lower some of the sliders? Absolutely. Vertical and off. rebounds took big hits (I should add that the majority of the time if I lower AI sliders I do the same to user -- I keep it equal), so did hands and pass accuracy (prior most to's were the result of steals. Now some are the result of wayward passes and dropped passes and it mimics the mix up TO's).

I adjusted several other sliders with the intent of creating a realistic experience. Has nothing to do with winning games. Using the Wizards I should not be winning a bunch of games (realism my man, lol) so if I start winning more than I like I either adjust sliders if my success is due to one aspect, or I boost the difficulty.

You said in your association you are 12-1. Who are you using? If you use a sub par team I would adjust sliders. Knicks and T-Wolves should not be 12-1.

I call plays 90% of the time. I rarely just free flow and try to iso with Wall, because it would not work in real life so it doesn't work in my game. What I do is call plays designed to have Wall coming off P&R hoping for mismatches if I wanna attack.

Point is that the game does not offer the best realism right out of the box.
Stupid game took a lot of energy out of me so let me make this one relatively quick.

As a Knicks, NY Rangers, Mets, Giants fan, I know what it's like to root for teams like the Wizards and get constantly let down. It's a labor of love.

I'm 12-1 with the Hawks. And I resent that Knicks comment. The Knicks were 6-0 when they trade Zach Randolph and Jamal Crawford!

Since I've been playing the association, I have never once missed the playoffs. I don't care if it's the Pistons or the Clippers, I'm making the damn playoffs. 37 win seasons aren't exceptable, even in simulations....

More later, I'm tired.
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