NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

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Quote: Originally Posted by 2k10Fonzarelli

you shouldn't make a habit of assuming overall rating is the sole determining factor of a player's ability. You'll notice that if you take someone rated very highly, say Kobe, and lower his Offensive and Defensive awareness to that of your average rookie or young player, his overall rating drops considerably despite the fact that his shooting is all high 70's to low 90's, despite the fact that his athletics and defensive abilities are also quite high. Or say you have a PF who's amazing in everything except what PF's are supposed to be good at, his overall rating will be lower than someone who is an amazing rebounder and brilliant low post defender. See : Chris Bosh v Dennis Rodman. Q.E.D In the case of Danillo, a 67 seems about right so long as VC/2k has given him the shooting credit he deserves. Danillo is still a fairly young player who's understanding of the way the NBA game is still developing. Plus, he plays frail, kind of like Bargnani(Sp?) and should be a much better rebounder for someone his size in his position. Maybe Chandler is slightly overrated, but realise that he's a more fundamentally sound player than most and his understanding of the game is pretty good. Also, the things he is very good at are applicable to the position he plays. Hence the 80 overall. Overall is almost meaningless, you shouldn't feel like you have to make Danillo a 75+ if 2k has paid attention to his strengths. And if you do so, you'll probably end up making him a better player than he actually is for the sake of him appearing to be Chandler's equal on paper, which he probably isn't. we all know Kobe is 94 overall LeBron is 98 which Is probably fair once you objectively look at their ability ratings. Kobe will still have better ratings in the area's he's proficient in, in comparison to James. Bron probably has that 4 point edge because the things he's strong in are mathematically applicable to the SF position in NBA 2K12. That doesn't necessarily suggest he's that much better than Kobe, if at all. PS. please don't turn this into a Bron v Kobe thread....please.

this FTW. same stuff every year.

the more complete the player (aka "overall" skill) the better chance he has at being rated high...even if someone may be a better scorer than him. kinda pointless to get panties in wad over the ovr., it's in the details where the separation between players is found.

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by mlp111

going to have to do some major roster editing, no way john wall is a 82, should be maybe 74-76, not a big deal, every year i have to adjust 2k ratings, i don't know why i thought it would be different this year!

I'm curious how you can say this without seeing all of his individual stats. What exactly are you going to change to get him down to a 74-76?

And this is my question for everyone complaining about overall ratings. What if you go to edit these players you're complaining about and his individual ratings are solid. What are you going to raise/lower to get them the overall rating you feel is right?

Unless I missed something, we don't even know what the overall ratings formula is. How is anyone complaining about it?

[ccjj1010]

Quote: Originally Posted by Colts18

Grant Hill's defense is what puts him over the top.

so kevin martin is better too? I understand maybe because he was hurt, but why then would you rate hurt players like caron butler and rudy gay so high? they didnt even play?

[Colts18]

Not sure, but I was just simply letting you know that players that play both sides of the ball will generally be higher. This is something that most can't seem to understand. Instead you are opting to write 2000 dissertations as to why Dirk is Larry Bird Jr. It is funny to sit back and see it though.

[ccjj1010]

2k sometimes gets way too prisoner of the moment. If what I see about dirk is true with a 99 midrange. The same as Michael Jordan... Something is seriously wrong.

[ffaacc03]

The only place where overalls do matter is in association ... and only for trading purposes (thus partially, as potential has a greater effect) and for controlled AI rotation assignments.

Anyways, I hope (once again, like I wish every year, thus not yet conceded) that they assign and scale the players attributes and tendencies right. Also, would love to see an improved and extended version of the most underrated yet more recognizable feature of the 2k brand: roster editability.

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by yellow86

Rodman 85 (a bit high for a guy that just rebounded and defended)

But one of the best rebounders and defenders at his position, ever.

It's starting to seem like the 80s are for players that do a thing or 2 extremely well, or players that do more than a few things above average. 90s seem to be for players that are good/great all around players.

[piccolomair]

A guy on the original youtube page posted an interesting tidbit, the overall rating changes depending on the position. He said that if you put all the attributes to 70, but changed the position, each position would garner a different overall rating.

"And here is another fun fact for the Kobe VS LeBron ratings debate. If you gave a 70 to every skill from "shot Inside" to "Emotion" to a player, his overall will be different depending on his position.

Point Guard: 66

Shooting Guard: 73

Small Forward: 78

Power Forward: 77

Center: 75

So if having Kobe a 94 so bad then switch him 2 small forward. Or Dirk to a shooting Guard. You will have different ratings
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