NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video - Los Angeles Lakers vs. Miami Heat

[thevaliantx]

Quote: Originally Posted by youALREADYknow

Where did I mention ice skating or animation related issues? My comments were in specific reference to offensive execution as it relates to 2K12 and 2K13. Also, are you aware that rosters extend far beyond attributes and stats? I don't know how you would expect to get "REAL-LIFE" gameplay without players having a context for their movements and actions. That context comes from the roster which includes coaching strategy, playbooks, player tendencies, player abilities, player hot spots, player hot zones, player animation packages, and more.

You didn't mention anything about ice skating. I did. That doesn't make my point invalid. It only proves that there ARE problems other than what you're seeing. Enjoy posting on OS, as I am. What you don't understand about rosters is that even with every possibly attribute in the world attached to the players, if the game's engine (the AI) isn't making use of those attributes, then it doesn't matter. You can have all the world's best three-point shooters on your team, but unless you are the one shooting with those players, and moving them to where they can get open, then ..... if the engine doesn't make use of play-calling on its own (which it does not, as I have observed over the years), then it's not going to matter. There is a reason why we're not seeing any gameplay footage of human vs cpu for NBA 2K13? Why? Because 2K13 would GET MURDERED by the knowledgeable folks on this site who know what real-life basketball looks like. You would see the computer's point guard dribble down the court and just stand there at the top of the key,m repeatedly passing the ball to another computer on the perimeter or to whereever you weren't changing control of your own player to. In other words, the AI does not run "plays", it simply reacts. Ever pondered that?

[thevaliantx]

Quote: Originally Posted by banks72301

Yeah but the game is not out yet........ AND the things people are complaining about are easily explained. Like the NO CONTACT. That is because if you pay attention the body language, the players on both sides are avoiding contact to either score at a high percentage or to avoid getting blocked, and or on defense, trying to avoid the foul. You can see the players stumble, lose their footing, angle their bodies to get the shot off, or lebron doing his signature double pump layup he always does when he is trying to avoid getting blocked. Both teams recognized the ability for the other teams ability to get a foul off contact AND score, and or their ability to block the ball in the same situations on the other end.

LOL!!!!! Do you really think the demo we're seeing is that much different than the final build? Wow.

[BegBy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gstate_510

The idiots on ign YouTube page saying stuff like "it's the same game every year" are morons

To be fair they're seeing some of the same issues year after year. Looks like another year of terrible accessories, and CPU ai being barely above mouth breathing levels.

No need for name calling, bro.

SG3/Tapatalk 2

[thevaliantx]

Quote: Originally Posted by BegBy

To be fair they're seeing some of the same issues year after year. Looks like another year of terrible accessories, and CPU ai being barely above mouth breathing levels. No need for name calling, bro. SG3/Tapatalk 2

I agree. That guy basically just included OS users in his namecalling. Those who complain about the game being the same year in and year out, are doing so for a reason. They are continuing to purchase the game and are not seeing the improvements they would like. I might be wrong on what the majority of users are complaining about, but I'd like to think they just aren't seeing much imrpovement in gameplay (neither am I).

[TeamBuilder]

6:12 - Glad to see that LeBron finishes in a realistic way. In past games he would fly over people from that angle with a "videogame dunk."

8:04 - This missed dunk by Kobe worries me a little bit. Should have been an easy flush.

[FLAWDAxBALLA954]

Quote: Originally Posted by hanes

soooo, lebron must be rated a 105 this year. The only shot he missed was when he was hacked. Hope this was on Rookie level or something. Players feet still slid a lot

Thats like saying mj must be rated 200 this year he made everyshot. Not saying Lbj is Mj for all you trolls but they both can fill it up and Lebron proved he is capable of long stretches of scoring

[ForeverVersatile]

I'm starting to hate reading posts because people cry about everything like they could fix it themselves.. Way too many good things to cry about dumb ish, seriously.

[BegBy]

Quote: Originally Posted by thevaliantx

You didn't mention anything about ice skating. I did. That doesn't make my point invalid. It only proves that there ARE problems other than what you're seeing. Enjoy posting on OS, as I am. What you don't understand about rosters is that even with every possibly attribute in the world attached to the players, if the game's engine (the AI) isn't making use of those attributes, then it doesn't matter. You can have all the world's best three-point shooters on your team, but unless you are the one shooting with those players, and moving them to where they can get open, then ..... if the engine doesn't make use of play-calling on its own (which it does not, as I have observed over the years), then it's not going to matter. There is a reason why we're not seeing any gameplay footage of human vs cpu for NBA 2K13? Why? Because 2K13 would GET MURDERED by the knowledgeable folks on this site who know what real-life basketball looks like. You would see the computer's point guard dribble down the court and just stand there at the top of the key,m repeatedly passing the ball to another computer on the perimeter or to whereever you weren't changing control of your own player to. In other words, the AI does not run "plays", it simply reacts. Ever pondered that?

Are you aware you're talking to a guy who has more knowledge about player edits and how they correlate to game play than just about anybody? His edits, and those of his peers, changed last years game so dramatically that he and said mentioned contemporaries should have been paid for their efforts. Their work literally made it seem like a different game engine.

SG3/Tapatalk 2