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[BL8001]

Great post Seanhazz.

My interior D is Rodman, Worthy and Marc Gasol.

I win the rebounding battle. No issues there. I also know to hold LT to box out which works wonders.

On the O end I have no issues because I can put up 40 vs the all star difficulty in LUT. not bragging because I bet others here can do better, but 40 is enough of a number to reach that the cpu cannot.

I can hold the cpu under 30 most of the time. My D is not bad but what I am saying is like every EA game there are things that happen on the user end and there is a different set of things that happen on the cpu end.

It's EA's philosophy. They know the human wants offense highlights in their gameplay and because the user can attack in more unorthodox ways the cpu has to warp and glom and do things that defy logic to defend.

I just would like to see the same effort on the other end. Seems like I can only get close to good defending by obtaining defensive all stars and they still do bozo things at times.

But what do we expect? The greatest minds built an AI and it was still beaten by a human. Chess. So we expect EA or any other sports game maker/dev to make sterling AI?

This is LUT which I know is a different animal. Just like I know all EA UT AI has some wacked out rules to confound and frustrate the user.

A similar example is in Fifa where I have seen heroic defensive moves by players other than the keeper to keep balls out of the goal, diving kick clears of balls about to roll over the line, headers on the line to keep aerial balls from going in. Meanwhile on the other end it's herding cats to get my defenders to even point the right direction much less cover someone.

Oh and to answer your D type question, I have tried most of them. The star focus and pressure shooters seems to do nothing. Going to zone will help a bit but the cpu can still pull my players out a lot wider then I would like. Maybe I need to go loose instead of normal, can't even imagine what tight would be if normal puts my defenders this close.

IRL last night I watched denver swing it around on charlotte and find an open man who shot a 3 while 2 hornets players recognized the threat and sprinted at the shooter. It still went in but the hustle was appreciated. To me, that was a good example of pressure shooters.

All I want is more threat awareness. As the ball gets closer to the hoop I would like to see more players coming to the hoop like the cpu does to me.

One thing I personally think most EA games suffer from is this adherence to strict formation. In all sports they reproduce in videogame form EA has them space out preferring positioning over ball/threat location, IRL players/more players are closer to the ball or puck than EA has them.

Despite all this, I keep turning the game on. It's fun.

[BL8001]

Also I am playing on baseline high cam.

Seanhazz, Let me know what cam or cams you play on.

Oh and one other quick question, I played a fair amount of 15 and have had 16 since it went on sale on PSN, question is, can EA add things in on the fly?

I ask this because last night 3 things happened I have never seen yet.
1. The cpu stepped out of bounds twice in the game
2. A free throw hit the front of the rim
3. The cpu threw it out of bounds trying to throw a pass to a player in the corner.

I just wonder if any things like this are being slipped in secretly. I think it would be amazing if they can.

[dirtypuppet]

I gave this game a spin last night for the first time in about 1 or 2 months, played 3 offline games and 3 or 4 Pro-Am games.

I had a really good time and the updates have clearly made some solid strides. Lot's of obvious things to improve but this is most definitely an enjoyable and legitimate NBA title and deserves better press than it gets.

[SincerelYourz]

no doubt; this game is pretty d**n good now!

[The 24th Letter]

Just a couple things here....

https://vid.me/oySs

I pressed the pass button before I even got to the Bulls left horn, they have to speed up the passing man.....instead Jimmy Butlers contact canceled that input. Easily my biggest gripe right now, makes swinging the ball a chore sometimes...

Also, Jimmy Butler leaves his assignment to go cover Nikolas man all the way across court....worked in my favor here but a terrible rotation, this goes against you sometimes too...I think as these basketball games continue to evolve with movement it's going to be tougher and tougher to program defensive rotations....we see it as an issue with both games this year...

[Calvenn]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

Just a couple things here.... https://vid.me/oySs I pressed the pass button before I even got to the Bulls left horn, they have to speed up the passing man.....instead Jimmy Butlers contact canceled that input. Easily my biggest gripe right now, makes swinging the ball a chore sometimes... Also, Jimmy Butler leaves his assignment to go cover Nikolas man all the way across court....worked in my favor here but a terrible rotation, this goes against you sometimes too...I think as these basketball games continue to evolve with movement it's going to be tougher and tougher to program defensive rotations....we see it as an issue with both games this year...

Agreed, have made the same observation in Live 16 though he headscratching rotations are present in both games as expressed. This is one area I'm working to address with my slider adjustments and I'm seeing some promise. Further testing is needed to be conclusive however I have also noticed that 2 minute ful court press defense has improved with this setup. These are all areas they should tighten in the next patch. If not, we may be looking at 17.

[nick_sr]

Why haven't they removed those ugly shots from around the basket that go in no matter unless ur playing a lut master challenge?

If o was a 2k player making the switch I would be instantly turned off by the fadeaway in live. Don't understand why that area hasn't been addressed.

Just 2 issues that really frustrate me at the moment.

[Calvenn]

I purposely reverted to default sliders and the defense is now tighter after Synergy updates on Superstar Tip Off game (stil could use more work). TWolves playing true to life in the game and saw some other good improvements (cpu controlled
players alot more adept at diving for loose balls and saving possesions in addition to intercepting passes and challenging for steals). Whatever they are doing or is happening must be kept up, improved upon and made more consistent or maintained. Have noticed that they sometimes take a step forward one week (end game logic,etc) only to take a step back in that same area the following week. Report your results if possible for validation.