Best of the Best All American Slider Set

[RogueHominid]

What fun, what fun! We could create for entertainment's sake a Frankenstein set and see what it actually plays like.

I'm at work, but would eagerly await a box score from evenly matched teams using the averaged sliders.

Kudos.

[Colts06XLI]

Quote: Originally Posted by JMP

What fun, what fun! We could create for entertainment's sake a Frankenstein set and see what it actually plays like. I'm at work, but would eagerly await a box score from evenly matched teams using the averaged sliders. Kudos.

Thanks for the Kudo’s. I wish I could have stayed home today and played some Ncaa 13. As far as posting box scores, all it would tell you is how I play the game. Unless you play the same way I do the outcome and stats would probably be different. I might run the ball 30 times and another user might pass the ball 50 times. Then throw in the variability that EA hard codes into the game and it is even more unpredictable imho. However the real intent wasn’t to create a “Frankenstein set” but to show the similarities and differences between some of the more experience slider makers. For instance, if you look at Jarodd21’s Heisman sliders he keeps his user total avg. sliders between 22 and 23 for all his difficulty levels but increases the CPU difficulty from 33 (total avg. slider) on his Green set up to 77 on his Black set. Unless you are a seasoned veteran his Black set will give you a thorough beat down. Then if you look at Authentic’s Heisman sliders, his user total avg. slider is 36 and CPU is 35. But everyone is having great games with them. So I started thinking how is it that the sliders can be so different but play well for so many people. It depends on what you are looking for in the game and how you play the game. Is it more realism and less difficulty or a little less realism and more difficulty? By realism I am referring to less warping, better interaction between players, an option attack that actually works, but not necessarily statistics.
Then look at the All American sets. The average QB accuracy is 20. The lowest slider is 5 and the highest is 35 for the user. So 20 would give you a good starting point to make a slider set and adjust to your liking. I don’t think there is a substitute for actual game testing to make a slider set. To me the more people that test and the different teams that are used narrows the set into a set that works for more people. But then the set is somewhat biased towards the skills of the individuals that tested the slider set.
For some reason this year’s game just doesn’t feel right to me. I have played on various difficulty levels and it seems like the deep ball is there almost every time. This is probably why I can’t settle on a slider set. If I want a really good challenge I use Jarrod21’s red set and use ask coach for offense and defense. I don’t control anyone on defense, punt returns, nor kickoffs. I only use the QB and RB on offense and don’t take control of the WR after the catch. To me that evens the playing field for the user against a suspect AI system. But then I have the CPU trying 60 yard field goals and other anomalies. So I guess it really comes down to the user plugging in a slider set and playing at least 3 games to determine if the set works for them or not.

[Von Dozier]

This actually looks really close to the AA set I was tweaking. Only thing I might disagree with is the HUM pass rush. I'd personally keep that to maybe 50, but I'll try it out.

[Von Dozier]

So I've been using these the past few games in my UTSA dynasty and they feel great. The only issue is that HUM rushing still feels too easy. But then again I haven't found a set where it's tough anyway, so maybe it's no fault.

Only thing I did was raise HUM pass coverage (40 to 50) because I was being ranked last in the country in pass defense.

[Colts06XLI]

Quote: Originally Posted by Von Dozier

So I've been using these the past few games in my UTSA dynasty and they feel great. The only issue is that HUM rushing still feels too easy. But then again I haven't found a set where it's tough anyway, so maybe it's no fault. Only thing I did was raise HUM pass coverage (40 to 50) because I was being ranked last in the country in pass defense.

Sounds great! Thanks for checking them out!

[Fiddy]

ever since you made this thread and i adjusted that spreadsheet to get the averages on AA as well, i have had some great games on AA.

i pounded USC with ND 48-20, then played at USC and got beat 31-16. few other games just like those two!!

then i had a weird one lol, i was Ohio U on the road at Ohio State.. i won 38-20!! it was a fun game though, since im just an average football gamer i was all fired up, ha. i want to replay that one and see how it would play out a 2nd time. but in that game, OSU's line was horrible and Miller was just a train wreck for some reason.

[Colts06XLI]

Quote: Originally Posted by Fiddy

ever since you made this thread and i adjusted that spreadsheet to get the averages on AA as well, i have had some great games on AA. i pounded USC with ND 48-20, then played at USC and got beat 31-16. few other games just like those two!! then i had a weird one lol, i was Ohio U on the road at Ohio State.. i won 38-20!! it was a fun game though, since im just an average football gamer i was all fired up, ha. i want to replay that one and see how it would play out a 2nd time. but in that game, OSU's line was horrible and Miller was just a train wreck for some reason.

Sent you a PM. Sounds like you are having some variety in the games. I updated the All American Sliders with MKHarsh33's version 8 set. I also updated the Heisman Sliders with Authentic's new Slider Set.

[Colts06XLI]

After talking with Jarodd21 he had a great idea of taking the average of his 4 slider sets and making it one set. Then averaging it with Authentics and Matt10's set. The numbers do look intriguing.

NCAA 13	Avg. of Jarodds 4 Sets	Jarodd	Authentic	Matt10	Totals	Slider Avg.
Human
QB Accuracy	30	8	0	5	13	4	5
Pass Blocking	0	0	50	0	50	17	15
WR Catching	160	40	45	45	130	43	45
RB Ability	200	50	50	60	160	53	55
Run Blocking	0	0	50	40	90	30	30
Pass Coverage	100	25	25	50	100	33	35
Pass Rush	0	0	25	20	45	15	15
Interceptions	100	25	40	30	95	32	30
Rush Defense	100	25	25	80	130	43	45
Tackling	200	50	40	45	135	45	45
Totals	890	222.5	350	375	947.5	316	320
	89	22	35	38		32	32
NCAA 13
CPU
QB Accuracy	275	69	25	20	114	38	40
Pass Blocking	150	38	50	0	88	29	30
WR Catching	265	66	45	55	166	55	55
RB Ability	275	69	80	70	219	73	75
Run Blocking	205	51	50	40	141	47	45
Pass Coverage	275	69	25	80	174	58	60
Pass Rush	5	1	25	0	26	9	10
Interceptions	200	50	40	30	120	40	40
Rush Defense	250	63	25	65	153	51	50
Tackling	200	50	40	35	125	42	40
Totals	2100	525	405	395	1325	442	445
	210	53	41	40		44	45
Threshold	0	0	50	90	140	47	47
User
FGP	200	50	50	50	150	50	50
FGA	160	40	40	50	130	43	45
PP	200	50	50	50	150	50	50
PA	200	50	40	50	140	47	45
KOP	180	45	40	45	130	43	45
	0
CPU	0
FGP	220	55	50	50	155	52	50
FGA	200	50	40	50	140	47	45
PP	200	50	50	50	150	50	50
PA	400	100	40	50	190	63	65
KOP	200	50	40	45	135	45	45
	0
Offsides:	400	100	75	85	260	87	87
False Start:	200	50	75	80	205	68	68
Holding:	212	53	52	52	157	52	52
Facemask:	220	55	52	56	163	54	54
OPI:	400	100	100	100	300	100	100
DPI:	400	100	100	100	300	100	100
KR/PRI:	400	100	100	100	300	100	100
Clipping:	220	55	55	50	160	53	53
IG:	400	100	50	80	230	77	77
RTP:	216	54	52	54	160	53	53
RTK:	400	100	100	50	250	83	83