Batman: Return to Arkham (PS4/XB1)

[TheShizNo1]

It made less sense to have Joker in an "early" Batman game? And if you read the Batman comics then you knew who AK was pretty early on.

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[Fresh Tendrils]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smallville102001

Arkham knight is underrated big time! You said the side missions where all redundant and tedious but really you can say that about ever one of the batman Arkham games really. The lack of challenge maps at launch yeah that was bad but now the game has more challenge maps then the other Arkham games and you can play has more then just batman in them to. So really this game has just about the most replay value of any of the Arkham games. The story was the best of the 4 games and I had no idea who knight was in till about half way into the game and even then it made since. Origins story on the other hand was the only time it felt like joker was forced into one of these games and made less since to have him in the game then who the knight was in knight. Origins over all is a great game to but its story is grossly overrated.

Asylum's side missions were basically just item hunts, but I still enjoyed the Riddles and Riddler's challenge. I thought City's side missions were done well to flesh out the the mythos with small, tightly contained stories that unfortunately were not taken advantage of in AK (Hush and Azrael). Some of them did basically repeat the same gameplay sequence, but each piece added to its story and progressed in an enjoying and rewarding way.

Arkham Knight, however, tasked you with doing the same challenge map 5 times and then face Penguin or Two-Face. It made the most fun parts of the previous games (the challenge maps) into boring, tedious work with little reward. The fact that there was no legitimate challenge mode like the 3 previous games made it even more disappointing. I know the game has more challenge maps now since the community complained loudly, but I doubt it has higher replay than Arkham City. Plus, weren't some of those DLC challenge maps paid-DLC?


The Arkham Series handled The Joker amazingly well apart from his boss fight in Asylum. Origins did a wonderful job introducing him to Gotham and Batman. For me the narratives for Origins and Asylum are the high points of the series with City and Knight being noticeably lower - which is a typical drawback as open world games become bigger.

[AshamanCarnage]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

It made less sense to have Joker in an "early" Batman game? And if you read the Batman comics then you knew who AK was pretty early on. Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk

They had me duped for a little bit just because they said it was a new character, and I knew it couldn't be so obvious who it was.

[DickDalewood]

My opinion: Asylum is the best of the three, no question. I would put Knight second and City third.

The tight pacing, story telling, and just overall feel of Asylum hooked me from the start and made it one of my favorite games last gen.

One thing I think we can all agree on... we finally got the superhero video game trilogy we deserved. The fact that so many have a different favorite game in the series is a testament to exactly that.

[Smallville102001]

Quote: Originally Posted by Fresh Tendrils

Asylum's side missions were basically just item hunts, but I still enjoyed the Riddles and Riddler's challenge. I thought City's side missions were done well to flesh out the the mythos with small, tightly contained stories that unfortunately were not taken advantage of in AK (Hush and Azrael). Some of them did basically repeat the same gameplay sequence, but each piece added to its story and progressed in an enjoying and rewarding way. Arkham Knight, however, tasked you with doing the same challenge map 5 times and then face Penguin or Two-Face. It made the most fun parts of the previous games (the challenge maps) into boring, tedious work with little reward. The fact that there was no legitimate challenge mode like the 3 previous games made it even more disappointing. I know the game has more challenge maps now since the community complained loudly, but I doubt it has higher replay than Arkham City. Plus, weren't some of those DLC challenge maps paid-DLC? The Arkham Series handled The Joker amazingly well apart from his boss fight in Asylum. Origins did a wonderful job introducing him to Gotham and Batman. For me the narratives for Origins and Asylum are the high points of the series with City and Knight being noticeably lower - which is a typical drawback as open world games become bigger.

I love the riddlers stuff even though a lot of people don't. It is one of the best things about these games. But asylum didn't have any side mission stuff other then those even though the other 3 did and my point was that city and origins side mission or repetitive to just like knight's. I agree that not having the challenge maps in there from the start was bad because challenge maps are a big reason these games have so much replay value. Most of the maps where DLC yes and that was a bad mistake but what I am saying is after that the game has more maps then any of the Arkham games do but yes they should have been free. If I would have known the game wouldn't have had those on day 1 like the other games did I would have most likely wanted for the game to have been out and gotten cheaper before I got the game and then get all the DLC.


When it comes to the stories knight and city are by far the best then asylum and then last origins. Joker should have never been black mask.

Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

It made less sense to have Joker in an "early" Batman game? And if you read the Batman comics then you knew who AK was pretty early on. Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk

Its not the fact that Joker was in a early batman game that was bad or made less sense it was the fact that the made him black mask thing that was stupid and felt force and was far more predictable then who knight was in knight. In knight I had no clue who knight was in till about half way into the game. Origins on the other hand I new black mask was just going to really be joker like 20 minutes into the game.

[illwill10]

I hope this is something that is remastered for next generation. Yeah, I know some don't like the idea of a remaster of a remaster especially when it comes to bundled games. But, I would love to revisit this series again at higher resolution, frame rates, and higher res textures. Especially if they could bundle in Arkham Knight. I would love to play Arkham City again at the the optimized for next gen hardware.

[Fresh Tendrils]

I would imagine they would just port the Arkham bundle onto the new hardware, but probably won't see it on there for awhile.

I've been playing Arkham City on PC for about a week or so (up to rescuing Dr. Freeze from Penguin while completing challenge maps as they pop up) and honestly it still looks really great to me.

[illwill10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Fresh Tendrils

I would imagine they would just port the Arkham bundle onto the new hardware, but probably won't see it on there for awhile. I've been playing Arkham City on PC for about a week or so (up to rescuing Dr. Freeze from Penguin while completing challenge maps as they pop up) and honestly it still looks really great to me.

Yeah. I don't see it coming for a long while. Maybe it's some thing that gets ported as a remaster bundle. I agree the games, even Arkham Asylum, holds up well today. Just raising the resolution and frame rates would be good enough for me.
I mainly want to see a Arkham City remaster for next gen. I all 3 of them at least twice, but Arkham City is my favourite. It felt like it had more depth than other two games and I liked the story the best. But Arkham Knight is one of only games I ever almost 100% completed. For non-sports games , I typically just play the campaign/primary storyline and that's it. But with Arkham Knight, only thing I didn't finish was the Riddler stuff.