Sound Off: Should Steroid Users Get in the HOF?

[dickey1331]

No. If you got caught cheating then you shouldn't be allowed in the HOF.

[lhslancers]

Quote: Originally Posted by TripleCrown9

Just curious, but why not McGwire?

Dave Kingman on steroids that's why.

[Money99]

Quote: Originally Posted by TripleCrown9

Personally I could start juicing right now, and never hit a Stephen Strasburg fastball. So for me, yes steroid users should get into the Hall of Fame. Sure it made them faster and hit the ball farther, but so what? That made games more exciting.

Explain that to the kid who doesn't want to risk his longterm health, but can't make the big club because juicers edge him out every year.
Or the guy who's on the bench and never gets a chance to play, because the person ahead of him on the depth chart is filled with HGH and never gets injured.

[bakan723]

Nope. Keep all the dirty roidheads out forever !!

[cdawg44]

These guys should absolutely get in the hall. Most of the old farts whining about it benefited from the steroid Era and absolutely sat on their hands and said nothing for years, but now wanna stand up on principle. The worse part is they, with no hesitation endorsed Torre and LaRussa and other managers in the hall who clearly knew their guys were juicing and won championships and awards off of it, but get a free pass. My feeling is, unless you are going to vacate all the records and championships from the late 80s through 2003, let these guys in.

That's why I think its time to take the vote away from the writers and go to a committee like the NFL. The writers are all attention whores who have made the Hall about them, not the game. The fact you people voting for only Jack Morris is a flat out joke, and they have no business voting for such an important process

[DrJones]

Quote: Originally Posted by cdawg44

These guys should absolutely get in the hall. Most of the old farts whining about it benefited from the steroid Era and absolutely sat on their hands and said nothing for years, but now wanna stand up on principle. The worse part is they, with no hesitation endorsed Torre and LaRussa and other managers in the hall who clearly knew their guys were juicing and won championships and awards off of it, but get a free pass. My feeling is, unless you are going to vacate all the records and championships from the late 80s through 2003, let these guys in. That's why I think its time to take the vote away from the writers and go to a committee like the NFL. The writers are all attention whores who have made the Hall about them, not the game. The fact you people voting for only Jack Morris is a flat out joke, and they have no business voting for such an important process

They're not all attention whores. But the BBWAA should definitely clear out the deadwood. My suggestions:

1. Reduce the time it takes for a BBWAA member to get a HOF vote from 10 years to 5.

2. You only get a HoF vote for 15 years. After 15 years, you need to be still covering MLB on a full-time basis (no national writers or those who've moved onto other sports/jobs/retirement) to get a vote. If you're still a fulltime baseball journalist, you receive an extra 10 years of voting (or until you're no longer fulltime, whatever comes first). Nobody gets a lifetime vote.

This would bring in a lot of fresh blood and get rid of most of the grandstanding cranks.

[BDKiiing]

Quote: Originally Posted by TripleCrown9

Just curious, but why not McGwire?

Mac's success came with the usage, more so than Bonds and Rocket. Bonds and Rocket had HoF credentials before their peak of using. I just don't have Mac or Sammy in HoF talk.

[dingleberryfinn]

Yes
I don't look at stats when I'm looking at Hall of Famers
I'm looking solely at the fame & love 'em or loathe 'em
none are as famous as Big Mac, Bonds, Clemens et al
And Rose for that matter. This is also why I steadfastly want to see
Tommy John in the HOF
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