CBA/Lockout Discussion Thread

[Dice]

Quote: Originally Posted by King_B_Mack

I don't know about that. I was just reading something a couple weeks ago talking about the upcoming labor thing and they mentioned how the Players haven't bent in the NBA ever. The owners are the ones that caved back in 99 and forced Stern to end things. I'll try to find the article. Hell someone here might've posted it.

I don't know about that. According to this article and Kevin Johnson, it might have been the players who bent over.

http://www.newsweek.com/1999/01/17/t...-nba-hoop.html

[justblaze09]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

because they cant save a dime to save their lives thats why

We're talking about the NBA here. The same league that has lost $300 million.

[23]

Yeah but the owners are mostly either billionaires or a group of billionaires

Think Mark Cuban vs Deshawn Stevenson

[DemiGodzillla]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

because they cant save a dime to save their lives thats why this is a different time than it was before especially with the atmosphere of the league, guys bolting teams, teams handicapped by long term deals even if it is the owners fault, the league claiming huge loses in consecutive years.. Theyre going to change some things for sure

Yeah I was thinking about that when I posted, does anyone know what % of players in the league have declared for bankruptcy at some point?

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by DemiGodzillla

Yeah I was thinking about that when I posted, does anyone know what % of players in the league have declared for bankruptcy at some point?

http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/...of-retirement/

[da ThRONe]

The players are going to lose here. If the league is really losing as much as they say they are they have no choice, but to change the rules. Even though they are the ones who can't run their teams properly.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

I think its a complete joke that one of the offers from the owners had a hard cap of only 45 million.

I'm on the players side. The Owners basically want a CBA that protects themselves because they can't stop handing out dumb contracts.

A hard cap would be horrible for the NBA. Just imagine if your team had a bunch of players develop and then you had to ship them out for 50 cents on the dollars because of the hard cap. This is what happened to the Blackhawks in the NHL. They were basically punished for winning the Stanley Cup.

The current CBA is already fair to both sides. We already have a soft cap, limit on the length of contracts, luxury tax, escrow tax, and incentive to stay with your own team due to more money and 1 more year on the contract.

If there is a lockout (which I predict will happen), the real losers are the fans.

[Drewski]

Quote: Originally Posted by VanCitySportsGuy

The current CBA is already fair to both sides. We already have a soft cap, limit on the length of contracts, luxury tax, escrow tax, and incentive to stay with your own team due to more money and 1 more year on the contract. If there is a lockout (which I predict will happen), the real losers are the fans.

I'm here with it. I feel like the current CBA is fine if utilized responsibly. It's the owners throwing MAX or close to MAX money to guys that seem's to have polluted the current CBA to extinction. It's tough though, because holding onto talent is very hard to do through free agency. It generally forces teams to pay guys like Joe Johnson big bucks, because there are teams well beyond the cap that have money to throw at a very limited free agency market.