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Old 05-30-2017, 06:17 PM   #433
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Sure hasn't hurt KD or Westbrook while they were in OKC, hasn't hurt AD while being NO, hasn't hurt PG while being in Indy.

Hell, Dwight went to LA and it damn sure didn't help his "brand". (Insert Blame Kobe response)

That big market/small market thing isn't as big of a factor like it used to be.

I think at one time certain things mattered but things have and are still changing in the league such as players going to certain cities for more exposure, etc..

Even John Wall was talking about not getting that supermax opportunity because the Wiz wouldn't be on tv as much, but he did get it anyway.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:55 PM   #434
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Those guys are big and all, but doesn't part of you think if they were in a bigger market, they'd actually be bigger than they currently are? In this superstar league, the superstars can transcend their market. But it doesn't mean they can't be bigger than they already are.
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Old 05-31-2017, 12:39 AM   #435
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Not at all.

If that were the case, then why weren't guys running to NY and LA? Hell, nobody of significance even wanted to grant them so much as an interview in FA unless they were looking for that final pay day.




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Old 05-31-2017, 01:23 AM   #436
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It depends on what we're talking about...as far as growing your brand- LA is LA...that doesn't change- it'd be crazy to think there arent more opportunities out there. Kevin Durant is already out there knee deep on Silicon valley amongst other things- there was just an Undefeated article about all the ventures hes now getting into...its not always the stuff you see commercials for...

That doesn't mean he was out there in OKC only able to get an A1 steak sauce endorsement, like any other megastar- that stuff will find them. In his case its icing on the cake...for him it was a basketball decision first.

I think thats the case for most top tier guys- I cant it see it being THE determining factor in a destination...maybe for your 2nd/3rd tier guys- but its most definitely a factor in some cases..

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Old 05-31-2017, 02:12 AM   #437
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That big market/small market thing isn't as big of a factor like it used to be.
It seems like every few months we address this on OS. I'm positive we've all read this here before.

Your statement is correct and hasn't changed since the last few times it's come up.

It's not even that someone keeps bringing it up on OS. It's usually an article that states to the contrary that gets everyone here worked up. This recent one was Woj regarding CP3.

Apparently even guys like Woj aren't up to speed on this small market / big market thing nowadays.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:41 AM   #438
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I don't wanna be "that guy" but I'm gonna be "that guy"....

Y'all really think y'all know NBA markets and their impacts on endorsements/business opportunities better than Woj? Seems like a tad bit of hubris.
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Those guys are big and all, but doesn't part of you think if they were in a bigger market, they'd actually be bigger than they currently are? In this superstar league, the superstars can transcend their market. But it doesn't mean they can't be bigger than they already are.
I agree. Just look at how Porzingis got so popular immediately. Meanwhile a guy like Jokic who has probably surpassed him at this point you barely hear of. Anthony Davis? I mean he's well known, people know he's a star, but I don't think of him as a guy with this huge "brand." He absolutely would have that in a big market.

For me, Lebron is an exception. He was being talked about as the next Jordan when he was in high school, so he was going to grow a huge brand anywhere. Nobody else really has that, even the elite guys.

I think maybe the media within the big markets as sometimes overrated its impact. Writers for the local papers writing that every free agent is going to come there because "OMG itz New York!!!" But I don't think a guy like Woj is overrating it at all.
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For lower tier free agents sure it can help you as far as local endorsements (it's better to be JJ Redick playing in LA than Matthew Dellavedova playing in Milwaukee) and being available more readily for business meetings and the like but if you're a star player in the league choosing a new team, what exactly don't you have access to? Karl Anthony Towns is trotting out Jack Links commercials left and right out of Minnesota. Westbrook has no shortage of business opportunities in Oklahoma City. If this were 1990 where every cell phone/tablet in the league weren't capable of video conferencing calls, etc. then you might have a point for dudes that are in the 25 million dollar+ a year club needing to be in LA or NY to build their brand but in 2017 that simply isn't a necessity any more. Especially when guys just head on out to LA and New York in the offseason any way.


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