2006 NFL Draft....3 Years Later

[Rocky]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

Cromartie is to CB's at the very least what Williams is to DE's. And in a much more difficult position to play. There's nothing arguable about Ngata. He's the key to arguably the best defense in the league.

I'm sorry, I think Williams is a better DE than Cromartie is a CB. Cromartie and Ngata play on better teams and get more exposure. But Mario Williams stands out on a mediocre defense. He's the difference maker on his defense, not saying the other two aren't.....but not to the level as Williams.

I've never rated defenders by the teams they play on.....great defensive players stand out on any team they play on.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rocky

I'm sorry, I think Williams is a better DE than Cromartie is a CB. Cromartie and Ngata play on better teams and get more exposure. But Mario Williams stands out on a mediocre defense. He's the difference maker on his defense, not saying the other two aren't.....but not to the level as Williams. I've rate defenders by the teams they play on.....great defensive players stand out on any team they play on.

It's easier to stand out on a defense without anyone else that stands out. It's more difficult to standout on a defense full of stars.

[shadymouse]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

It's easier to stand out on a defense without anyone else that stands out. It's more difficult to standout on a defense full of stars.

Good Point.... I Agree

[BoKnowsBest]

1. Mario Williams-5/5
2. Reggie Bush-2/5
3. Vince Young-3/5
4. D'Brickashaw Ferguson-3/5
5. AJ Hawk-3/5
6. Vernon Davis-1/5
7. Micheal Huff-1/5
8. Donte Whitner-3/5
9. Ernie Sims-4/5
10. Matt Leinart-2/5
11. Jay Cutler-3/5
12. Haloti Ngata-5/5
13. Kamerion Wimbley-4/5
14. Broderick Bunkley-5/5
15. Tye Hill-2/5
16. Jason Allen-2/5
17. Chad Greenway-4/5
18. Bobby Carpenter-1/5
19. Antonio Cromartie-3/5
20. Tamba Hali-2/5
21. Laurence Maroney-2/5
22. Manny Lawson-2/5
23. Davin Joseph-5/5
24. Johnathan Joseph-4/5
25. Santonio Holmes-4/5
26. John McCargo-1/5
27. DeAngelo Williams-4/5
28. Marcedes Lewis-2/5
29. Nick Mangold-5/5
30. Joseph Addai-3/5
31. Kelly Jennings-3/5
32. Mathias Kiwanuka-3/5

just my opinion. 5 exceeds expectations, 4 means he meets the expectations, 3 means hes a good player but not worth a 1st, 2 is a bust, 1 is a mega-bust

[55]

Quote: Originally Posted by BoKnowsBest

just my opinion. 5 exceeds expectations, 4 means he meets the expectations, 3 means hes a good player but not worth a 1st, 2 is a bust, 1 is a mega-bust

That means Reggie Bush should get a 0.

[OSUFan_88]

I cannot believe we traded Ngata to the Ravens for Kamerion "One Move" Wimbley and Babatunde Oshioutofthenfl.

Another great Phil Savage move.

[Rocky]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

It's easier to stand out on a defense without anyone else that stands out. It's more difficult to standout on a defense full of stars.

I agree and disagree. You can be the beneficiary of a great defensive scheme/talent and furthermore it can get you alot more exposure. Obviously, I think all three guys can contribute wherever but the other two guys have this advantage while Mario Williams doesn't....and he still has similar impact/accolades.

[JohnDoe8865]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

Round 1 - Actual Draft 1. Mario Williams 2. Reggie Bush 3. Vince Young 4. D'Brickashaw Ferguson 5. AJ Hawk 6. Vernon Davis 7. Micheal Huff 8. Donte Whitner 9. Ernie Sims 10. Matt Leinart 11. Jay Cutler 12. Haloti Ngata 13. Kamerion Wimbley 14. Broderick Bunkley 15. Tye Hill 16. Jason Allen 17. Chad Greenway 18. Bobby Carpenter 19. Antonio Cromartie 20. Tamba Hali 21. Laurence Maroney 22. Manny Lawson 23. Davin Joseph 24. Johnathan Joseph 25. Santonio Holmes 26. John McCargo 27. DeAngelo Williams 28. Marcedes Lewis 29. Nick Mangold 30. Joseph Addai 31. Kelly Jennings 32. Mathias Kiwanuka

My 09 Value Chart

1. DE Mario Williams
2. DT Haloti Ngata
3. CB Antonio Cromartie
4. HB DeAngelo Williams
5. QB Jay Cutler
6. HB Laurence Maroney
7. T D'Brickashaw Ferguson
8. S Donte Whitner
9. HB Joseph Addai
10. LB AJ Hawk
11. WR Santonio Holmes
12. LB Chad Greenway
13. C Nick Mangold
14. TE Vernon Davis
15. HB Reggie Bush
16. QB Vince Young
17. DE/LB Mathias Kiwanuka
18. DT Broderick Bunkley
19. DB Jason Allen
20. DE/LB Manny Lawson
21. FS Micheal Huff
22. LB Ernie Sims
23. C Davin Joseph
24. QB Matt Leinart
25. CB Tye Hill
26. TE Marcedes Lewis
27. LB Kamerion Wimbley
28. DB Kelly Jennings
29. DT John McCargo
30. DE Tamba Hali
31. CB Johnathan Joseph
32. ILB Bobby Carpenter