Nate Newton's weight loss. Wow!

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by elgreazy1

Having been a person who's fought weight issues all my life I would like to respectfully say: Be quiet because you don't know what you're talking about. Diet and exercise isn't enough for some body builds, and in the case of Newton - a large bodied football player with previous injuries that probably affect his ability to exercise - surgery is sometimes the best case scenario. Not every genetic physical makeup is the same and not all of us metabolize food, burn calories, lose weight, put on muscle, etc in the same way because if we did we'd all have the same build. Congrats to big Nate for his dramatic weight loss. He's not only drastically improved his long-term health but he's also saved himself a lot of daily wear and tear from not having to carry around a 300+ pound frame.

Exactly. Excellent post.

A person who weighs what he did is going to have sustained all sorts of damage to his overall bodily functions, to a point that the normal course of diet and exercise may not even be reasonably effective at that stage. He was walking badly due to the weight and exercise became an issue, then throw on the beating he took while playing in the NFL which also had an effect, and his situation is all laid out.

If he were like 200, even 250, then I could see just saying diet and exercise is all you need, and even then you need a proper approach that fits you because like Elgreazy correctly stated, all bodies do not respond the same way to the same diet, and when you're pushing 4 bills it's all a different ball game. When a person is that size it's a race against time and losing just 1-2 pounds a week with the normal setbacks you'll have even while sticking exactly to a common diet, may not do. That's one of the reasons the surgeries were created.

And finally, I don't get why people can't be happy for others and always have to find a negative. That's a bad reflection. It's one thing to do it with a video game or when someone does something wrong, but with things like this--people doing something positive--it's just a shame that people react that way. It's really appalling.

[Trey79]

[quote=31;2041852657]Is it just me or are people losing weight like the Bills lose Super Bowls? (terrible, I know)

That is funny, sorry to all the Bills fans.

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Quote: Originally Posted by TheWatcher

Exactly. Excellent post. A person who weighs what he did is going to have sustained all sorts of damage to his overall bodily functions, to a point that the normal course of diet and exercise may not even be reasonably effective at that stage. He was walking badly due to the weight and exercise became an issue, then throw on the beating he took while playing in the NFL which also had an effect, and his situation is all laid out. If he were like 200, even 250, then I could see just saying diet and exercise is all you need, and even then you need a proper approach that fits you because like Elgreazy correctly stated, all bodies do not respond the same way to the same diet, and when you're pushing 4 bills it's all a different ball game. When a person is that size it's a race against time and losing just 1-2 pounds a week with the normal setbacks you'll have even while sticking exactly to a common diet, may not do. That's one of the reasons the surgeries were created. And finally, I don't get why people can't be happy for others and always have to find a negative. That's a bad reflection. It's one thing to do it with a video game or when someone does something wrong, but with things like this--people doing something positive--it's just a shame that people react that way. It's really appalling.

Agreed. If people feel that way, that Newton took the easy route, why not just keep that to themselves? It was a positive move in this guy's life. He had a long NFL career and it undoubtedly took a toll on his body. Maybe achieving this type of weight loss was only attainable through surgery. That other dude's post is spot on; not everyone loses weight the same way and sometimes you need to do what's best for you and your family.

[mattsb84]

I wont say he's lazy because I can't say what he's done or not done prior to surgery. But I will say I hope others don't look at him for inspiration. He's mutilated his stomach to the point where its physically impossible for him to eat a normal amount food. He's starving his body and who can say what the long terms affects of this surgery will have on him. It's great Nate lost 200lbs, but I don't agree with how he got there.

If you have tried everything or have an actual thyroid issue then ok, this type of surgery makes sense. Otherwise, eating under maintenance is all that's needed to lose weight. It will always be about calories in vs calories out. Always. Laws of thermodynamics people. The problem is that people don't know what their maintenance levels are and it's different for all of us. I'll also add that most people with a weight issue don't try everything (or even close) and thyroid issues impact a tiny percentage of the population. Sedentary desk jobs don't help most of us either.

[NDAlum]

Matt you nailed it. It's a damn shame people aren't educated on nutrition.

I have a co-worker who was 300+ and played D-1 football. Now he weighs 190 because he works out and eats right. Losing weight is easy.

[Crimsontide27]

I think the main problem people have is that it sets unrealistic expectations. From watching the video and reading an article, it looks like he dumped over 200 lbs from a weight loss surgery, not from eating right and exercising.

Now..he may be eating right and exercising now, but it had no impact on that type of rapid weight loss. People see this and try to eat right and exercise and get results that are nothing like this and get discouraged, all while not realizing he had an expensive surgery to get there.

A headline like " Nate Newtons amazing workout and diet plan resulted in 200lbs of weight loss in 6 months! " looks noteworthy and is a good story.

However, "Nate Newton spent thousands on gastrobypass and a tummy tuck and still has a ton of excess skin hanging from his stomache looking nasty" wouldnt get the same amount of attention.

[MaxMan1000]

Quote: Originally Posted by NDAlum

Matt you nailed it. It's a damn shame people aren't educated on nutrition. I have a co-worker who was 300+ and played D-1 football. Now he weighs 190 because he works out and eats right. Losing weight is easy.

I have to jump in on this one.

People who would say "losing weight is easy" or think it's some kind of simplex science equation may be educated on the concept of nutrition, but they are totally clueless about the intricacies of weight loss and its real difficulties all of which are well documented with decades of clinic research to back it up. Your friend's weight loss wasn't easy. You're kidding yourself, and if he said so he was lying through his teeth. It was tough, it had to be. It took time and hard work to go from 300+ to 190, a mental reshaping and an emotional reshaping and that's the same for anyone who is obese, both the mental and emotional parts are a battle. It's a struggle, there is no way around it.

We gain weight easily now because of the overly processed chemical stuffed crap that we're sold, including a lot of the supposed healthy stuff that really isn't that healthy, combined with a lifestyle of greater conveniences that don't call for us to be as active as we used to be generations ago. It's mostly all unnatural crap and it's thrown our bodies out of whack making it harder to process and metabolize correctly (this is an important fact that you can easily look up). Only the fortunate are not affected as hard as the rest. I know people who eat garbage daily and never exercise but never gain a pound. I know people who exercise like animals and eat healthy but have trouble losing a pound. Results vary widely.

Losing significant amounts of weight is as difficult as anything that has to do with breaking habits or finding proper customized balance. There is an emotional, mental and physical barrier to break through in each case that goes beyond just a series of steps or plan itself. There is nothing easy to scoff at about this unless you're some kind of Zen Master which you are not and no one else here is either. There is a reason why hundreds of millions of people are having a hard time and it's much more complicated than you understand.

A good friend of mine has been a Doctor and weight loss specialist for the Center For Medical Weight Loss for years. He's an expert. There is nothing he doesn't know about weight loss. His career is based on it and we talk about it all the time. He helped my wife lose weight after she'd failed with two heavily monitored professional clinic plans with a personal trainer. After finally losing weight, still she was never able to get off the last 9 pounds of her goal regardless of how much she worked at it. She still looks great and she hasn't gained back a pound in all the years since, but that last 9 just won't budge, and she's been a strict organic vegetarian for 4 years now and exercises regularly.

There is no easy one size fits all, just eat right and exercise deal. It's not easy. If it were, people would be losing and keeping weight off left and right and there wouldn't be an obesity epidemic, because believe it or not lots of people do that exact thing and can't seem to drop a pound or they're up and down or they plateau quickly.

I doubt you or anyone else saying it's easy have ever had a weight problem, and that tends to be the people who always say what you've said. I've never had one myself, but I know better than to make a statement like that. It's totally wrong and misinformed.

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Quote: Originally Posted by MaxMan1000

I have to jump in on this one. People who would say "losing weight is easy" or think it's some kind of simplex science equation may be educated on the concept of nutrition, but they are totally clueless about the intricacies of weight loss and its real difficulties all of which are well documented with decades of clinic research to back it up. Your friend's weight loss wasn't easy. You're kidding yourself, and if he said so he was lying through his teeth. It was tough, it had to be. It took time and hard work to go from 300+ to 190, a mental reshaping and an emotional reshaping and that's the same for anyone who is obese, both the mental and emotional parts are a battle. It's a struggle, there is no way around it. We gain weight easily now because of the overly processed chemical stuffed crap that we're sold, including a lot of the supposed healthy stuff that really isn't that healthy, combined with a lifestyle of greater conveniences that don't call for us to be as active as we used to be generations ago. It's mostly all unnatural crap and it's thrown our bodies out of whack making it harder to process and metabolize correctly (this is an important fact that you can easily look up). Only the fortunate are not affected as hard as the rest. I know people who eat garbage daily and never exercise but never gain a pound. I know people who exercise like animals and eat healthy but have trouble losing a pound. Results vary widely. Losing significant amounts of weight is as difficult as anything that has to do with breaking habits or finding proper customized balance. There is an emotional, mental and physical barrier to break through in each case that goes beyond just a series of steps or plan itself. There is nothing easy to scoff at about this unless you're some kind of Zen Master which you are not and no one else here is either. There is a reason why hundreds of millions of people are having a hard time and it's much more complicated than you understand. A good friend of mine has been a Doctor and weight loss specialist for the Center For Medical Weight Loss for years. He's an expert. There is nothing he doesn't know about weight loss. His career is based on it and we talk about it all the time. He helped my wife lose weight after she'd failed with two heavily monitored professional clinic plans with a personal trainer. After finally losing weight, still she was never able to get off the last 9 pounds of her goal regardless of how much she worked at it. She still looks great and she hasn't gained back a pound in all the years since, but that last 9 just won't budge, and she's been a strict organic vegetarian for 4 years now and exercises regularly. There is no easy one size fits all, just eat right and exercise deal. It's not easy. If it were, people would be losing and keeping weight off left and right and there wouldn't be an obesity epidemic, because believe it or not lots of people do that exact thing and can't seem to drop a pound or they're up and down or they plateau quickly. I doubt you or anyone else saying it's easy have ever had a weight problem, and that tends to be the people who always say what you've said. I've never had one myself, but I know better than to make a statement like that. It's totally wrong and misinformed.

Great post and I agree. Weight loss surgeries are not a quick fix, though. I know you never said they were, but people's lives change when they make that decision. I've seen people get the surgery and they got off the plan and then they end up in the hospital with a hole in their stomach because they didn't stick with the plan. I could be wrong but I think a lot of information is still unknown about the long-term effects of such surgeries.

Young people who are 50 or 100 pounds overweight should try and tough it out and exercise it off. I can see if you're older and a doctor tells you that if you don't drop a hundred bills, you're going to die. Each circumstance is different.

Either way, it's awesome for Nate Newton. I hope he has a longer life because of it.

I think one of the posters above was simply saying that people shouldn't look to weight loss surgery as a quick fix or as inspiration, and I don't see that as being a negative statement. If people can't do it the natural way due to various factors, it's a very viable option to get the surgery. But with all due respect, I've seen people get it who readily admitted that it was a quick fix and they didn't feel like working at it.

I don't want to come off as disagreeing with you, because I don't.