Michael Wilbon wrote an article today saying he would take Ben over Brady or Manning if he needed one game to win and his life depended on it. First of all, I think Wilbon is a moron even before today's article, and I think he only says things to stir the pot. Of course, on First Take today, another idiot in my eyes, Skip Bayless, agreed with Wilbon(no surprise because I think he does the same thing Wilbon does, stir the pot). Ben is 3rd on my list in that group,what do you guys think? In my opinion, Ben is the product of being on a team that doesn't need a ton of production from the QB position because of their great defense and they always seem to have a good running game. The 2005 Super Bowl shows how they don't rely much on the QB position when he only threw for 123 yds but had 2 picks and they still won the game with their D and running game. He had a passer rating of 22.6 which was the lowest in SB history for a winning QB. I think he's a very good QB, but not quite Manning or Brady yet.
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There are 5 QB's I'd take before Big Ben.
Manning
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Roethlisberger all day.NFL: Pittsburgh Steelers
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He is correct if you look at the teams, but not if you are just looking at the QB. Ben is able to make plays because he escapes the pocket, but his passing skills and mental abilities(reading defenses) is no where near Manning and Brady. If you put either of those QBs on the Steelers with that running game, they probably be hard to beat.Comment
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That running game is a myth. They haven't had a top-10 run game since '07. Inconsistent at best the last 3 years. In '08 and '09, it was abysmal. Mendy had only 3 games for over 100 this season.
As for QB's, give me the the guy with the fantasy football numbers. I love that guy who keeps throwing for yards and TDs when their team has the game in hand already. Nothing like another TD throw inside the 5 or 10 late in the 3rd or 4th when up by 3 or 4 TDs. I also love me some garbage time numbers when i can get them.
Those stats look so pretty, and always tell the true story.Comment
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I'll take Manning and Brady if they had a top 5 defense and decent running game every year like Big Ben. People always seem to forget that this is a team game when they talk about QBs. Manning and Brady have better footwork and are better at reading defenses, getting rid of the ball. I'm not trying to take anything away from Ben, but he's not at their level and benefits from being on the best franchise in football right now. Wins are not a QB stat
These arguments would be better if people like Wilbon said they are taking the Steelers over the Pats and Colts. They could write a great article on how the Steelers organization has done a fantastic job of drafting over the last decade, etc, but instead they stir the pot. Can't blame 'em...its their jobComment
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Last edited by biglen; 02-02-2011, 02:47 PM."You probably heard we ain't in the prisoner-takin' business; we in the killin' Nazi business. And cousin, business is a-boomin'." - Lt. Aldo Raine-Comment
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IMO Brady is the best individual player of the three, and Roethlisberger has played on the best teams most recently.Comment
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I'd take Ben against anyone but the patriots, then I would take Brady. If Wilbon bet his life on a Steelers Pats game with Ben leading the Steelers he would lose it.Comment
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It depends. What system and personnel are you running your offense with? If it's any system or roster you want, I'll take Brady since he can move the ball under ideal circumstances with the least amount of mistakes for a single game or season.
If it's a system or roster site unseen, I'll take Manning since he practically has his own system and adapt.
I don't know if I'd take Roethlisberger over Rodgers, Brees, or Rivers much less Manning or Brady. I just think his success is predicated more on the rest of the team rather than his own.Xbox Live Gamertag: kjell4779Comment
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Ben Roethlisberger isn't along for the ride anymore. He is legitimately a great quarterback. The plays he made in that second Super Bowl run put them over the top. With that being said, I still love Peyton Manning.
I'll take his arm, his accuracy, and his IQ over anyone. Add to that, I don't think he's played on teams as complete, top to bottom, as Brady and Roethlisberger."A man can only be beaten in two ways: if he gives up, or if he dies."Comment
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I've never really liked the sport of baseball. It probably has something to do with the Pirates being so terrible while I was growing up. I'm 25, 18 of those years the Pirates have had a losing season. I still go to a game or two a year, but I just don't follow the sport.
I love people who think if you but Brady or Manning behind the Steelers O-line that they would be just as good or better LOL. Both would get sacked 5-10 times a game.NFL: Pittsburgh Steelers
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Why did you leave out the Pirates in your Sig? 
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