Week 1: Cincinnati Bengals @ Cleveland Browns

[PVarck31]

Quote: Originally Posted by redsrule

Someone seems extremely butthurt.

Enough with this.

[OSUFan_88]

Quote: Originally Posted by p2xgamers

I don't think any Bengals fan will boast and claim us as a front runner. What I would argue regarding McCoy and the Browns offense overall is that after Dalton going down they had a huge opportunity to run away with this game. Instead they let it hang at 4 points until the end. IMO that was the most significant part of the game. The Bengals offense mustered either 3 or 4 yards on the first 2 possessions and then 30 yards and 18, 4 possessions right in the middle of that and yet Cleveland had 3 points in the 2nd half. I won't put it on just the Cleveland QB but he shares some of that responsibility.

The entire offense shares the responsibility.

To say that he's not that good based on a half where his receivers couldn't catch and his o-line played like crap is way off base. Just last year, McCoy beat the Bengals pretty good. And now he's not good because the entire offense played like crap?

Meh.

[kayfngee]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

I like how a Bengals fan is trying to tell me how I should feel about my QB. The guy who completed 60% of his passes his rookie year. But one game where he got hung out to dry by his O-line shouldn't be enough to say he isn't good. In short, focus on your own team before talking about my team.

I've watched both of these teams play a lot over the last 20 years. I've actually probably seen more Browns games than Bengals games. I've seen enough of both teams to give what I feel to be are accurate assessments. Neither team is a step above the other in talent. I think the Browns are slightly better at QB, RB, OL, and in the secondary. I think the Bengals have slightly better WR /TE, DL, and LB. The Browns biggest talent advantage over the Bengals was negated with the new kickoff rule.

[p2xgamers]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

The entire offense shares the responsibility. To say that he's not that good based on a half where his receivers couldn't catch and his o-line played like crap is way off base. Just last year, McCoy beat the Bengals pretty good. And now he's not good because the entire offense played like crap? Meh.

Well I would definitely agree with that and I wouldn't argue he isn't good. It's just like saying Dalton is going to be a pretty good QB even though he wasn't in there long and had the advantage of good starting field position.

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I think the Browns are slightly better at QB, RB, OL, and in the secondary

It's only one game and the pre-season, but it seems like the Browns offensive line is MUCH better than the Bengals. Very little time for the QB's today and Benson until the TD run had no holes today, a line of defensive browns players getting through just not good run blocking at all.

[mestevo]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

The entire offense shares the responsibility. To say that he's not that good based on a half where his receivers couldn't catch and his o-line played like crap is way off base. Just last year, McCoy beat the Bengals pretty good. And now he's not good because the entire offense played like crap? Meh.

The 'well the WRs couldn't catch' type excuses start to mean less and the QB shoulders more of the blame when he does things like throwing a pass to his center in probably the biggest clutch situation in the game.

[kayfngee]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

The entire offense shares the responsibility. To say that he's not that good based on a half where his receivers couldn't catch and his o-line played like crap is way off base. Just last year, McCoy beat the Bengals pretty good. And now he's not good because the entire offense played like crap? Meh.

The offensive line was pretty solid until the Bengals took the late lead and were just pinning their ears back rushing.Until McCoy can consistently play like he did last year against the Bengals, the Browns offense will struggle. It's really hard when a team can just load up to stop your running game without the quarterback (and wide receivers for that matter) being able to make plays against single coverage.

[The Big Squeezy]

Well, I was extremely ****ing wrong.

Suck for Luck. Let's do it. We already lost to the Bengals so why not?

[OSUFan_88]

If we truly are worse than the Bengals, then I will fully embrace the suck for Luck campaign with glee, despite how I feel on McCoy.