2022-23 English Football Thread

[Krebstar]

Players need to stop approaching officials in the way they do—period.

Yes, they're inconsistent and rather **** at their jobs quite often, but doing more of the same won't help. Crowding, approaching them from the side or behind to the point that they don't now who is there and trying to touch or grab their arm, to me, 100% merits a "get the **** off me gesture" from an official. It wasn't a blatant elbow, but exactly the same type of gesture a player would make if another grabbed their arm—it just happened to move upward into the face.

I don't know how anyone can watch the relationship between players and officials each week and not think that both sets need to massively change how they communicate and physically interact with each other. It's on both groups—not one.

I'm not going full Brian Clough on Jon Motson here, (Google it) but if anything is going to change it can not just be officials who change how they handle interacting with players—it goes both ways.

Officials face more hostility than away opponents, are surrounded by a crowd that has both sets of players riling up said crowd, and it's very within reality that a supporter runs onto the pitch at the start of the half to confront an official. That's why the arm went up the way it did.

I can't even believe there's actually being thought put into BUT WAS it inTENtionAL?!

[KG]

Reffing aside…what a crazy game that was.

Arsenal should have buried Liverpool early
Liverpool comes back and gets Anfield rocking
Salah with a terrible penalty
Ramsdale pulling off some great saves
Arsenal with a chance to steal it late but Martinelli gets it wrong

I didn’t like the subs by Arteta but I understand what he was trying to do. I think you take the point and don’t dwell too much on it


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[ProfessaPackMan]

Players approach Officials in the manner they do because the league allows it, plain and simple.

You damn sure don’t see this in the other 4 major Pro Leagues and why? Because the league protects them and players know that and they know the consequences are harsh and severe if they even attempted to do so, regardless of who’s in the right/wrong.

[PPerfect_CJ]

The CAPTAINS should be the ones talking to the officials. The other players should back off and let them handle it. If I had 22 guys crowding me and yelling, I would probably be handing out yellow cards like candy.

[Brahvocado]

The reality is, though I’ve said a million times they need to take a page from rugby, it’s probably more complicated than that. Rugby had a culture of being polite to referees long before they started mic’ing them up, soccer does not.

They need solutions that are going to work at the grassroots level too, because a culture shift has to go all the way down.

[Krebstar]

First Newcastle, then Chelsea, and now Spurs. What a wonderful day in the top flight of English football this has been.

[legendkiller5]

Saka couldn’t get it on frame.

And that was the difference.

[ImTellinTim]

Oof another early 2-0 lead that results in only 1 point.