Progressing QBs on the bench

[webbjay82]

So right now in madden there is no reason to bench a rookie QB for the first year or so compared to the real NFL where there maybe an established vet or the team is terrible and you're trying to protect them or they just need time to develop.

So what if there was a training slot for QBs of the future where if you put a backup QB in that slot they would gain half the experience the starting QB earned. That way it would be like theyre learning from the veteran QB but downside would be that your starter would lose half their earned XP.

[Instant C1a55ic]

Sounds like weekly training is what you should be doing. They get a steady amount of xp, while using them in blowouts as well.

[Mattanite]

With the new rookie OVR spread then to start a rookie is to pay the price of starting a rookie. The top drafted guys can play OK but the sub 70s guys might not depending on competition and sliders. But yes, to not start a rookie is to accept they'll develop a lot slower and not reach their max their ovr at the age 26 soft cap and beyond.

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[garry1221]

The way drafting has evolved in the game, youre correct. There is no reason to sit a rookie qb. But it could make for an interesting 'house rule'. Now, unless you don't know the best scouting/drafting strategies, you should find legit starter qbs.

Best example of this could be the rosters I use. Dolphins have Rosen and Fitzpatrick neck and neck OVR. As a purely Sim player, i could make the excuse that too many losses in a row could make me start the veteran backup over the younger arm for a week or two.

In the end though, depending on your xp sliders, my qbs progress fairly evenly. 1 or 2 points a year.

[tg88forHOF]

Quote: Originally Posted by webbjay82

So right now in madden there is no reason to bench a rookie QB for the first year or so compared to the real NFL where there maybe an established vet or the team is terrible and you're trying to protect them or they just need time to develop.

The real NFL doesn't work like that either. High draft pick rookie QBs rarely sit for a full season anymore.

The reason everybody talks about the season Mahomes sat and developed in KC is because it's pretty rare, and has been for the last 15 years or so at least. Not only did they already have a veteran QB in Smith that was regularly winning the division for them, but unlike most veteran starters, Smith actually gave a squirt of pee about Mahomes' development. Most NFL starters don't put that kind of attention into training their replacement...look at similar situations from Farve/Rodgers on up, and most of the time, the starter couldn't care less whether the rookie gets any better. Why would they train themselves out of a job?

Past that, there's just too much pressure to put the new toy in the game. Other than Mahomes, name a high draft pick rookie QB in the last 15-20 years who actually sat a full season. Usually, they end up starting by week 8 at the latest. Watson. Mayfield. Rosen. Jones (even though Gettleman swore they were following the "Kansas City plan" when they drafted him). Darnold. Denver is about to start Lock as soon as he's available to play again.

Hell, Nate Jackson had a great description in his book Slow Getting Up of the media, fan, and front-office pressure in Denver to start Jay Cutler his rookie year...and even though Jake Plummer had taken them to the playoffs for years, and had a winning record for the season at the time he was benched, as soon as he lost a couple games in a row, Cutler was in, and Plummer never played in Denver again. This isn't a new phenomenon.

So, be careful invoking "how the real NFL works" just because you'd like to be able to do something. A lot of times, it really isn't, and hasn't been for a very, very long time.

It's ok to want the game to work a certain way without needing a "realism" justification for it....I think we as a community forget that pretty often.