Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

[Junior Moe]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

Nope. I don't play online but I'm going to imagine that it's not gonna be a wholly different game. It'll probably be a tweaked version that neutralizes the exploits and bad gameplay tactics the top players use to facilitate a better presenation for the E league. If they allowed people to play that build, they'd just discover some new exploitative tactic and run that during the league.

[jeebs9]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

Nope. I don't play online but I'm going to imagine that it's not gonna be a wholly different game. It'll probably be a tweaked version that neutralizes the exploits and bad gameplay tactics the top players use to facilitate a better presenation for the E league. If they allowed people to play that build, they'd just discover some new exploitative tactic and run that during the league.

Exactly!!! I don't think it's slider changes either. It might be the hardcore SIM mode. Or it could be your open. Your hitting a jumper. Who knows?

[Korrupted]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

Nope. I don't play online but I'm going to imagine that it's not gonna be a wholly different game. It'll probably be a tweaked version that neutralizes the exploits and bad gameplay tactics the top players use to facilitate a better presenation for the E league. If they allowed people to play that build, they'd just discover some new exploitative tactic and run that during the league.

The problem with that is...You currently have people trying out on a game filled with exploits right now. Imagine drafting players based on performances under old mechanics of the game then making them play under the new mechanics of the game and their suddenly not good anymore. You just filled your league up with below average scrubs. It's a lot of players in the PRO-AM community that rely on exploits (Snatch back, blow by animations and constantly holding B in the paint to get position). Most of these guys are labeled as some of the top 2k league prospects. Why not fix the game for EVERYBODY and allow people to try out under the new mechanics and gameplay. Who cares if someone discovers a new exploit. 2k needs to work with a sense of urgency to nerf or fix it. It's that simple.

Slider adjustments and such are acceptable. Tweaking gameplay completely such as mechanics and all that may present an issue. Just my 2 cents

[Junior Moe]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

Exactly!!! I don't think it's slider changes either. It might be the hardcore SIM mode. Or it could be your open. Your hitting a jumper. Who knows?

I don't think they'll try to make it super sim. The inherant nature of online gaming is fun. I saw one clip on that 2KTV of a dude rolling around on the ground after a shot. Lol. It's fun. I just think they'll try to nurf the ugly/exploitative stuff. In a win at all cost league I could see every team running and doing the same stuff because it works.

[Junior Moe]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

The problem with that is...You currently have people trying out on a game filled with exploits right now. Imagine drafting players based on performances under old mechanics of the game then making them play under the new mechanics of the game and their suddenly not good anymore. You just filled your league up with below average scrubs. It's a lot of players in the PRO-AM community that rely on exploits (Snatch back, blow by animations and constantly holding B in the paint to get position). Most of these guys are labeled as some of the top 2k league prospects. Why not fix the game for EVERYBODY and allow people to try out under the new mechanics and gameplay. Who cares if someone discovers a new exploit. 2k needs to work with a sense of urgency to nerf or fix it. It's that simple.

Slider adjustments and such are acceptable. Tweaking gameplay completely such as mechanics and all that may present an issue. Just my 2 cents

I'd imagine though that they'd have that in mind when selecting players. From what I understand it's not only gonna be the top ranked players. Who knows, maybe that particular build makes to the general public afterwards. But like anything, there's gonna be exploits. By introducing it once the league starts then they'd be ahead of the curve for a second before new exploits are found. That's my thinking at least.

[jfsolo]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

Nope. I don't play online but I'm going to imagine that it's not gonna be a wholly different game. It'll probably be a tweaked version that neutralizes the exploits and bad gameplay tactics the top players use to facilitate a better presenation for the E league. If they allowed people to play that build, they'd just discover some new exploitative tactic and run that during the league.

Maybe it is the best that they can do right now, but "holding back" the best tuned version of the game so that people don't have time to find more exploits to make the league look bad would be a poor solution, IMO.

As has been reverenced in this thread, is there any other e-sports game that does this? Don't deprive us offline heads the chance to play a version of the game that is great without having to make 50 slider adjustments and well as the serious online peeps who can't use sliders.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

It would be fun to play that build with friends . We play hardcore mode in COD , the hardest difficulty in other games , and we play HOF in 1 v 1 on 2k. So a a different setting of the game is right up our alley. Or give us pro am lobbies

[Junior Moe]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

Maybe it is the best that they can do right now, but "holding back" the best tuned version of the game so that people don't have time to find more exploits to make the league look bad would be a poor solution, IMO.

As has been reverenced in this thread, is there any other e-sports game that does this? Don't deprive us offline heads the chance to play a version of the game that is great without having to make 50 slider adjustments and well as the serious online peeps who can't use sliders.

For all we know they could release this version at the same time the league starts. It might just be the newest patch they release then.

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[3ShowTime2]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

I'm here, if you need anything else.

We are also here

Spoiler

and waiting for an example.

[ph33]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

I’m quite tired of the whining that goes on over this video game. The maxim will always hold true “you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.” 2K owes us nothing besides an equal exchange of value which would be the $60 paid for the video game. Everything else is extra. $250,000 tournament open to the public who have all reached legal age EXTRA. Learn to roll with it and stop whining and crying about the haves and have-nots.

They don’t need to let you practice on a similar build to the e-Sports because they don’t have to. The staff at 2K has planned these events and have hosted them successfully (see last years tournament.) if you disagree strongly about how it takes place, maybe this isn’t the tournament for you and you should move along to one of the many other games mentioned.

Nah. "Learn to roll with it and stop whining" is exactly what they want their customers to do, so they can get away with whatever they want. Sorry, the rest of us aren't going to roll over just because you're satisfied.

Back to the discussion ... Jeebs, I'm a bit lost and maybe misinterpreting. You say "all of them" But what other games have a different meta when it comes to competitive/casual?

DOTA and CS are good examples. Same game for everyone no matter the scene. When I play DOTA I can only play with people in the slums tiers, because that's my level. When I play against good players, they're going to whoop my *** because they are THAT good at the game and know the small details much better than I. But it's not because they've been playing a different version of the game. It's because they're amazing. Likewise, in CS. An ak-47 doesn't have different recoil in casual than it does competitive. And so when you watch competitive players play and what makes them good, you can try to infuse the same elements in your own game to try to improve a little at a time.

As others said ... they seem to have some different mode for people who are trying to qualify. It'd be wonderful if they opened this up to everybody else. Do they owe it to us? I guess not. Nobody is obligated to anything. Everybody differs on how much they feel like they got out of the money they spent for the base game. But I think it'd be pretty silly for them to exclude people rather than include.

[jeebs9]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

We are also here

Spoiler

and waiting for an example.

Keep waiting.... Lol

The build isn't going to be the "best". That's subjective lol. It's probably going to be like 2k 16.

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[3ShowTime2]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

Keep waiting.... Lol

The build isn't going to be the "best". That's subjective lol. It's probably going to be like 2k 16.

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No need to distract. You dont have an example for an esports game thats works with different builds for the public and competitive environment, no need for further discussion.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

I had little interest in following the 2K E-League because I assumed that gameplay would boil down to silly tactics and sharpshooter contests. If it's true that they'll be playing under different settings than the rest of us, then I really want to see how that plays out. If it's another step closer to realism, then I'm all for it. Assuming that the rest of us get that experience the same thing at some point as well.

I don't follow a ton of E-Leagues, but I'm very familiar with Rainbow Six Siege, Street Fighter, and Tekken. The fun in watching these games played at a high level is seeing what's possible, and maybe trying to add bits and pieces to your own game. I think it's pretty silly to think that the majority of these competitions are played under completely different circumstances than they normally are. NBA 2K would have to be one of the few going this route, if anyone else is at all.

[shayellis]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

It makes little to no sense to have the way to qualify and the what youre qualifying into on different game builds. Of course some players will be better or worse on different game builds. Why would they not keep it consistent or at the very least make both games build available for play when the tournament starts?

[Kushmir]

Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

Interesting topic....TBH my opinion has evolved as i've read the different responses but I will say this...an e-sports build makes sense. It says: we know our game has issues and we dont want to see these things exposed on the highest stage.

I def get it.

So I'm OK with it...here's the thing: I want the best possible version of the game as well. Not in the spoiled customer-is-always-right sense, either. I just want to play the best version of basketball 2K offers. Those same cheesy things that 2K doesnt want to see on a broadcast with thousands watching?

I dont want to see that stuff when i'm online either. Wanting to experience the best version of hoops is a good thing....there's absolutely no harm in it.

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