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Old 01-31-2015, 10:24 PM   #13841
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The HOF is not about who's more valuable etc etc. I can make the argument that Bettis was more important to the Steelers than Pace was to the Rams. Pace was indeed. There's no way the Steelers would trade Bettis to the Rams because the Steelers had some very good OL men but Bettis as the RB was the straw that stirred the drink. He was the focal point of that offense for most of his career.

Your argument is bordering on ridiculous just because you don't care for Bettis.
Huh? Warner doesn't survive as long as he did in that system without Pace. Pace was a top player until he walked away; Bettis was a role a player. Being a focal point of an offense should not equal first ballot HOF'er.

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Old 01-31-2015, 10:36 PM   #13842
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Everyone likes Bettis and he was and is a media darling. It's not surprising he got in.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:54 PM   #13843
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Seth Meyer's opening monologue for the awards tonight and he was hilarious.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-honors...ning-monologue
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:54 PM   #13844
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Pace was one of the best offensive linemen of all-time. Total BS that he didn't get in this year.

Bettis was simply a guy that lucked out by playing in a run first offense and stayed relatively healthy for the entirety of his career. He's pretty much the very definition of a stat stuffer. He never would have gotten in if it were up to me.

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Old 01-31-2015, 10:59 PM   #13845
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Seth Meyer's opening monologue for the awards tonight and he was hilarious.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-honors...ning-monologue
It's just showing out here in the Mountain Time Zone.. his opening was fantastic, and it's been a pretty solid show overall, so far.

Although, I thought the choice of music for the In Memoriam segment was kind of strange.

Fantastic acceptance speech by Thomas Davis
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Old 01-31-2015, 11:56 PM   #13846
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An open letter from suspended Browns receiver Josh Gordon.

https://medium.com/the-cauldron/an-o...co-cb5c4e64cf3
Still needs to be cut. Let some other team deal with his BS.
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Bettis was simply a guy that lucked out by playing in a run first offense and stayed relatively healthy for the entirety of his career. He's pretty much the very definition of a stat stuffer. He never would have gotten in it it were up to me.
Whoa whoa whoa... wait... WHAT?

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Old 02-01-2015, 12:18 AM   #13848
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Whoa whoa whoa... wait... WHAT?

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I happen to agree with him to an extent.

I would not word it quite as strongly as he did, but I also don't think he is HOF worthy.

I should note that I am very stingy when it comes to who I deem to be HOF worthy. It should be reserved for the best of the best, not the good for several years.

I'll stop now before I go off on a rant.
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