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Neon_Chaos
03-10-2008, 12:10 PM
Please tell me we didn't all scan Grey.

Alan T
03-10-2008, 12:10 PM
Jeheinz, will we know if we have eliminated all of the company members if Sylar still is alive?

jeheinz72
03-10-2008, 12:12 PM
Jeheinz, will we know if we have eliminated all of the company members if Sylar still is alive?

You'll just know the game is over or not over (by if there is a new deadline)

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 12:13 PM
Damn. Alan's on freakin' fire.

mauchow
03-10-2008, 12:13 PM
If two don't die tonight we could CONSIDER that Sylar is the only one left. I wouldn't rule it out completely.

This is crazy though, we're doing very well.

Greyroofoo
03-10-2008, 12:15 PM
does anyone think it'd be funny if the company kills me tonight?

Thomkal
03-10-2008, 12:16 PM
well it must have been my wife's evil split personality that corrupted my poor son. :( Hopefully my action gets through tonight. I went a bit unexpected and viewed Render. I figure someone is going to take a shot at the seer.

Lathum
03-10-2008, 12:17 PM
I have some thoughts but will wait until after the game is over

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 12:18 PM
does anyone think it'd be funny if the company kills me tonight?

I highly doubt they would, just because there is still some reason to suspect you. But if they did then boy my face would be red. I also think they know who sylar is, though.

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 12:20 PM
Good move, thomkal.

jeheinz72
03-10-2008, 12:28 PM
Night 5 results

Another successful day for the group! Will this nightmare ever end? Will you ever feel safe living in the world as an enhanced human being? Is there any sort of cure? Would you want a cure?

Again you flip on the tube over your eggs, this time hoping for a better newsbreak then yesterday. Sadly, it's reminiscient of yesterday. Another child has died. This poor girl was poisoned in her sleep in her room. Looks like she had a cool room, all covered with maps. You recognize her instantly as poor little Molly.

Alan T has died, he was Molly Walker, a Hero!


Molly Walker

Power: You have the ability to locate people simply by thinking of them and pointing to a map. As such, you can scan someone to learn what their power is or you can scan them to spy on what they did that night.


Day/Night 6 has begun! Votes and Night Actions are due at 1 PM EST on Tuesday, 3/11

Greyroofoo
03-10-2008, 12:29 PM
Well it looks like I'm in trouble

Alan T
03-10-2008, 12:32 PM
I figured eventually I would be dead :) Good luck heroes!

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 12:33 PM
You played a helluva game, Alan. Well do our best to finish it off.

And I don't know what to think yet, GRF, wait for path and others to get their night results.

Thomkal
03-10-2008, 12:35 PM
Great game Alan, you deserved to be there till the end.

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 12:35 PM
I'm especially curious as to who render scanned.

path12
03-10-2008, 12:35 PM
Grey indeed tried to melt my skin off my body, and damn near succeeded.......

However, I am whole, and well, after the ordeal. Woo-hoo!

mauchow
03-10-2008, 12:35 PM
There can't be more than one more wolf, right? So at worst for us there is one wolf and sylar left.

DaddyTorgo
03-10-2008, 12:36 PM
bah that was quite the morning. didn't even get to get on till just now

DaddyTorgo
03-10-2008, 12:40 PM
how'd we let lathum live this long?

i'm surprised he wasn't a choice much earlier in the game to be honest.

1 company + sylar left - looks like we have this well in control

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 12:40 PM
Donno, mau. There could be one left, but if there was a conversion, possibly two. Six company (w conversion) + sylar with 23 people doesn't seem outrageous with all of us having powers.

Greyroofoo
03-10-2008, 12:43 PM
how'd we let lathum live this long?

i'm surprised he wasn't a choice much earlier in the game to be honest.

1 company + sylar left - looks like we have this well in control

we were too busy lynching other company members

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 12:43 PM
Dola, but it is likelier that were dealing with 1 comp + sylar.

Neon_Chaos
03-10-2008, 12:54 PM
We still don't know what happened on Night 3. Narcizo told me he guarded himself on Night 3 and nothing peculiar happened.

So what happened on Night 3? A conversion? The Company didn't send in a kill order?

And what's up with Sylar not killing tonight, does anyone have a vague idea on what the pattern for his kills are? He's only done one so far.

Oh, and my scan on Grey failed. again. random.org hates me. At least Path can vouch for him.

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 12:56 PM
we were too busy lynching other company members

Haha, good answer.

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 01:00 PM
Neon - my guess has been that on night 3 they tried to hit sylar and failed. And as to why sylar didn't kill tonight, its very possible he can't kill twice in a row, and someone also brought up the point of a lack of a kill pointing more suspicion at GRF. Sylar can continue to lay low, even after the company is all gone.

path12
03-10-2008, 01:03 PM
We still don't know what happened on Night 3. Narcizo told me he guarded himself on Night 3 and nothing peculiar happened.

So what happened on Night 3? A conversion? The Company didn't send in a kill order?

Was I the only attack that night? I thought that was Sylar because of the flying power used against me, but it could have as easily been a Company attempt.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 01:05 PM
One heck of a game, Alan.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 01:06 PM
RendeR, how did your scan turn out?

RendeR
03-10-2008, 01:15 PM
RendeR, how did your scan turn out?



Greyroofoo is a hero.



My CoT looks like this:

Hoops
Grey
Thomkal
Me
Chief Rum


Can we validate anyone else to add to this right now?

Thomkal
03-10-2008, 01:19 PM
I can now confirm Render is indeed Issac Mendez. I saw him in a trance at the loft his character has in the show, but no other activity around him.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 01:21 PM
Note that both bad guy teams left the seer (RendeR) and the most powerful character (Schmidty) around to finally get Alan. That is a lot of respect.

RendeR, I assume Chief Rum is an indirect trust for you? I believe the other four represent scans you have performed.

Thomkal
03-10-2008, 01:22 PM
I would have to think Path would be in a COT since we now know Grey is a Hero. Hard to believe Path would risk his life if Company/Sylar given where they stand right now. Unless of course he's lying that there was a random chance he would be killed and had a full 100% chance of being safe.

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 01:23 PM
Well there you are GRF, my suspicions of you are down to nearly nil.

I'd nominate myself for the COT as well, unless you think I've been converted, which I haven't.

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 01:26 PM
But I understand nothing confirms my trustworthiness except my killing of AE, so keep me on the fringe if you want.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 01:30 PM
I would have to think Path would be in a COT since we now know Grey is a Hero. Hard to believe Path would risk his life if Company/Sylar given where they stand right now. Unless of course he's lying that there was a random chance he would be killed and had a full 100% chance of being safe.

Not unless his ability works differently than mine, I bluffed earlier when I said that I couldn't be night-killed. In fact, my ability works exactly as Path described it (avoid one night kill, % chance to avoid other attempts, % chance to identify attacker).

I figured I may as well admit this now because:
1.) it goes a step further towards clearing Path if we have the same regeneration power (characters on show have same power)
2.) if the bad guys want to take 2+ shots to night kill me to get me out of the game then that is keeping others alive. Which is fine, as we are moving towards a fairly substantial CoT

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 01:32 PM
But I understand nothing confirms my trustworthiness except my killing of AE, so keep me on the fringe if you want.

Obviously every villager includes themselves in their own personal CoT. I think most people would concede that you are unlikely to be Company, but I'm not sure that is as applicable for Sylar.

Your use of power, and explanation for it, make sense within the context of the show. From where I sit you are more trusted than just about all of the non-seer-cleared folks.

Narcizo
03-10-2008, 01:40 PM
Great game Alan. I've been a villager with you in two games and you have owned in both games.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 01:51 PM
OK, here is what I've got in terms of clearing info from a quick review of players. Feel free to add any data points that are not covered.

1. Claphamsa (Noah) - validated as Noah by Hoops
2. hoopsguy (Claire) - seer scanned Day 1, validated as Claire by Clap
3. The Jackal (Eden) - used power to swing vote to Cunning Wolf Day 2
5. RendeR (Isaac) - seer, validated as Isaac by Thomkal Day 5
6. Thomkal (DL) - seer scanned Day 3
8. path12 (Adam) - demonstrated use of power publicly Day 5 (attack by Grey)
9. Greyroofoo (Ted) - seer scanned Day 5, validated as Ted by Path (?)
13. DaddyTorgo (Nathan) - potentially scanned by Alan (?) who called out his power very precisely earlier in thread
14. Mauboy1 (Elle) -
15. Schmidty (Peter) -
16. Neon Chaos (Lyle) - unlikely to be Company based on Day 2 showdown/voting, demonstrated PM ability with Jackal
17. Chief Rum (Matt) - validated as Parkman by Render (telepathic link)
20. Barkeep49 (Linderman) - validated by Alan Day 5 (assume to learn power)
21. Mr. Wednesday (Hiro) -


Also, I still maintain that Sylar is less likely to be one of the players with a big-time public role. I don't think Schmidty, MrW, or DT are Sylar based on revealing with significant roles on the show.

Thomkal
03-10-2008, 01:57 PM
If we are looking for Alan's killer based on powers from the show, Barkeep's Linderman comes closest in my mind to someone who could poison. If I'm remembering his power from the show correctly.

path12
03-10-2008, 01:59 PM
9. Greyroofoo (Ted) - seer scanned Day 5, validated as Ted by Path (?)


I can't verify that Grey is Ted, just that he did indeed get me with a heat attack, which sounded quite a bit like the radiation he said he was going to hit me with.

RendeR
03-10-2008, 02:00 PM
Note that both bad guy teams left the seer (RendeR) and the most powerful character (Schmidty) around to finally get Alan. That is a lot of respect.

RendeR, I assume Chief Rum is an indirect trust for you? I believe the other four represent scans you have performed.

I was put in contat with CR by jeHeinz. I'm going to assume that he would not create a mental link PM ability with opposing factions himself. If CR had done it on his own I might question it.


I would have to think Path would be in a COT since we now know Grey is a Hero. Hard to believe Path would risk his life if Company/Sylar given where they stand right now. Unless of course he's lying that there was a random chance he would be killed and had a full 100% chance of being safe.

This is just enough skepticism for me to not include him yet. That is just the kind of stunt a wolf would pull to gain trust if he had the chance, especially if he's the last one. or a lone agent like Sylar.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 02:09 PM
I thought a little more on Path and agree that he could have been bluffing on his first "death" - being dropped from air - while knowing this one would fail.

Sylar needs to kill to get his powers, unlike Peter. So Path is Adam Monroe, as far as I can tell. However, I don't have him 100% cleared of being Company. But if he was Company and had already been attacked, then he would have been taking a big risk with this play. I don't know what the % is of living through the second attack, but if he is the last Company member (could they really have six???) then that was a pretty sizeable risk to take.

path12
03-10-2008, 02:16 PM
I repeat what I said yesterday. I'm fine with being lynched if it proves what I've said is true, we have the numbers on our side (I'd be shocked if we didn't by now). Barring that, anyone who wants to scan me is more than welcome to, since I doubt I'll be night attacked at this point. I've proved about all I can.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 02:17 PM
Not Sylar (100%) - Hoops, Clap, RendeR, Thomkal, Grey

Unlikely to be Sylar - Jackal (demonstrated power), Barkeep (Alan learns powers), Path (demonstated power), Schmidty (public figure, detailed reveal), Chief (demonstrated power), MrW (Hiro has to be in game, right?), Neon (demonstrated power), DT (public figure)

Likely to be Sylar by process of elimination - Mauboy


Mauboy has not demonstrated a power, was a late reveal, has a character whose natural tie-in (father) is not in the game, and has played an uncharacteristic low-risk game. I'm going to need someone to either vouch for him or poke all kinds of holes in my assumptions to go in another direction with my vote today.

In fact, let's just get it out there now.

VOTE MAUBOY1

mauchow
03-10-2008, 02:22 PM
I'm not going to vote Mr. W right. Lathum at one point trying to point fingers at him for a suspicious reveal as Hiro. I do believe that Lathum was trying to get something else going because his own company was in jeopardy. That relieves Mr W for me, for now. Doesn't mean he can't have been switched tonight or any other night since.

I think we need to lynch a powerful role tonight as to make sure Sylar doesn't inherit the powers for himself. This will also allow us to make sure that powerful role isn't used against us if there was indeed a switcheroo.

Any thoughts on this? I'll be checking in throughout the evening, but I'm workin'.

RendeR
03-10-2008, 02:23 PM
Ok, so if we're going to lynch Mauboy next, give me 2-3 options as to who I should scan next. I have m own ideas, I just want other's input ebfore I make a decision.

claphamsa
03-10-2008, 02:27 PM
ive voted mau in the past hy not again..

vote mau

mauchow
03-10-2008, 02:39 PM
How am I supposed to demonstrate a power when its something that I do to change votes. I haven't been given a legitimate opportunity to use it.

Lets get some GOOD discussion going so we can figure out the real killers here. If you allow me to show my power maybe it will clear me. Lets figure out more than just ONE target. Runaway votes don't figure anything out.

claphamsa
03-10-2008, 02:43 PM
even if your power works it doesnt make you good....

Barkeep49
03-10-2008, 02:48 PM
How am I supposed to demonstrate a power when its something that I do to change votes. I haven't been given a legitimate opportunity to use it.

Lets get some GOOD discussion going so we can figure out the real killers here. If you allow me to show my power maybe it will clear me. Lets figure out more than just ONE target. Runaway votes don't figure anything out.
Real bummer for you, I agree. Not sure how you can help your case.

Vote mau

Schmidty
03-10-2008, 03:15 PM
How in the blue hell am I not in your CoT??? The fact that Lathum died and his power was proven to be the one I got the night before should be beyond a shadow of a doubt. That really makes me suspicious of you. I think I know my spy target tonight.


By the way, I spied on CR last night and he didn't do anything other than grab a bite to eat with some other person. They didn't really talk during the meal, and then CR left and went to bed.

I also tried to intercept any PMs from GRF, but nothing came though.

Now here is the big thing: My learned power last night was radiation from my hands, that I can only use if I'm angry. What that means is that, I can
target a person to kill (with random results), but I can only do it on a person who has voted for me in the past. This is VERY significant, because that means whoever has that power used it last night. I can't remember who said that was their power, but whoever has it, has some explaining to do.


Greyroofoo is a hero.



My CoT looks like this:

Hoops
Grey
Thomkal
Me
Chief Rum


Can we validate anyone else to add to this right now?

Thomkal
03-10-2008, 03:16 PM
Ok, so if we're going to lynch Mauboy next, give me 2-3 options as to who I should scan next. I have m own ideas, I just want other's input ebfore I make a decision.

Well I would say DaddyTorgo because Alan suspected him shortly before his death, and lets face it he's been right on everybody else. Schmidty would be good since he has Sylar like powers and probably Mr. Wednesday based on the Ardent voting, and I believe another vote where he didn't vote for the Company member on the block.

Down the road you will likely have to consider the likes of Neon and Jackal. They aren't likely to be Company, but still could be Sylar.

path12
03-10-2008, 03:17 PM
Now here is the big thing: My learned power last night was radiation from my hands, that I can only use if I'm angry. What that means is that, I can
target a person to kill (with random results), but I can only do it on a person who has voted for me in the past. This is VERY significant, because that means whoever has that power used it last night. I can't remember who said that was their power, but whoever has it, has some explaining to do.

Grey used that on me last night to prove his power. I was able to survive it.

claphamsa
03-10-2008, 03:21 PM
GRF used that....

claphamsa
03-10-2008, 03:21 PM
GRF used that....

Schmidty
03-10-2008, 03:25 PM
I must have missed it when I was skimming. My bad.

Thomkal
03-10-2008, 03:25 PM
Well I would say DaddyTorgo because Alan suspected him shortly before his death, and lets face it he's been right on everybody else. Schmidty would be good since he has Sylar like powers and probably Mr. Wednesday based on the Ardent voting, and I believe another vote where he didn't vote for the Company member on the block.

Down the road you will likely have to consider the likes of Neon and Jackal. They aren't likely to be Company, but still could be Sylar.

Oh I forgot about Clap-I've mentioned before I was suspicious of him because of the weapon used to kill Ntndeacon on Night 1, a gun. That would fit with his character, Noah.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 03:33 PM
Schmidty, can you use it to target anyone who has ever voted for you or just someone who votes for you on that day?

Don't answer this publicly if you feel it is better to keep it secret, but Greyroofoo (cleared by RendeR last night as a hero) knows the answer as well. As others have said, that is where you got this power.

Mauboy, have you used your power yet this game? Do you declare it during the "day" cycle by sending Heinz a PM? How does (or would it) show up in the vote totals? If you haven't used it up to this point, why not, even if it was only to support a runaway or demonstrate it publicly on a candidate who had no chance of being lynched?

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 03:35 PM
On a more-or-less unrelated note, I'm wondering if Heinz would put in any limits on Schmidty or if he can just absorp powers the rest of the way? On the show Peter had trouble assimilating all of the powers he collected, especially the radiation powers from Ted (which Schmidty now has).

DaddyTorgo
03-10-2008, 03:50 PM
Not unless his ability works differently than mine, I bluffed earlier when I said that I couldn't be night-killed. In fact, my ability works exactly as Path described it (avoid one night kill, % chance to avoid other attempts, % chance to identify attacker).

I figured I may as well admit this now because:
1.) it goes a step further towards clearing Path if we have the same regeneration power (characters on show have same power)
2.) if the bad guys want to take 2+ shots to night kill me to get me out of the game then that is keeping others alive. Which is fine, as we are moving towards a fairly substantial CoT

someone's lying here then.

VOTE PATH12

I think he's Sylar.

claphamsa
03-10-2008, 03:58 PM
Oh I forgot about Clap-I've mentioned before I was suspicious of him because of the weapon used to kill Ntndeacon on Night 1, a gun. That would fit with his character, Noah.
except i dont have a gun :(

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 03:59 PM
DT, I admitted in the post you quoted that I lied about how my power worked earlier - I can be killed eventually at night. My power works exactly as Path described.

Now Path could be lying:
1.) He may not have been attacked earlier in the game by Sylar as he has suggested - there is no confirmation on this
2.) He may have not been attacked by Greyroofoo at night. But Grey (Seer scanned by RendeR last night) says he did attack him, so it would have to be a fairly big conspiracy

I think it is almost impossible for Path to be Sylar if Sylar's powers are gained through night kills. No one who has died had the ability to survive a kill attempt. In the show Peter could assume this power by contact with someone who has it (he absorbs it from Claire in Season 1) but Sylar would have to kill someone to take it.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 04:03 PM
DT, did you attempt to night-kill Path earlier in the game? Alan indicated that you had the powers that matched up with his description of events. You later admitted to having these powers, but I don't think you ever said one way or another what you have done with your powers.

Thomkal
03-10-2008, 04:07 PM
except i dont have a gun :(

so you keep saying, but there's no proof one way or the other.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 04:10 PM
Strategies for this evening:

- Schmidty continues to guard Schmidty
- Someone needs to guard RendeR
- Secondary guard targets should be the people who are cleared by RendeR in order to continue applying pressure to Sylar + Company
- RendeR scans whoever the heck he wants to scan

Jackal, if you are feeling particularly frisky towards a player could you compel their vote towards Greyroofoo? That could accelerate the game, for better or worse ...

path12
03-10-2008, 04:34 PM
someone's lying here then.

VOTE PATH12

I think he's Sylar.


Huh?

Back at'cha, pal.

VOTE DADDYTORGO

path12
03-10-2008, 04:37 PM
DT, I admitted in the post you quoted that I lied about how my power worked earlier - I can be killed eventually at night. My power works exactly as Path described.

And I'd have to go back and find the post, but I speculated early that someone else likely had the same ability as I did based on how the characters were being described.


Now Path could be lying:
1.) He may not have been attacked earlier in the game by Sylar as he has suggested - there is no confirmation on this
2.) He may have not been attacked by Greyroofoo at night. But Grey (Seer scanned by RendeR last night) says he did attack him, so it would have to be a fairly big conspiracy.

Indeed. And as I've said twice, I am fine with being lynched if that is what is needed to prove that the information I've given so far is correct.

Are you willing to do the same, DT?

claphamsa
03-10-2008, 05:03 PM
too true, there is also no reason to think it was me either...

so you keep saying, but there's no proof one way or the other.

mauchow
03-10-2008, 05:22 PM
I'm not sure who to vote for but everyone really needs to take my name off their lists since I am indeed a hero. I would've kept to myself if I wasn't a hero considering my person was part of the company in the TV show. I almost revealed first because of my lame ability but I thought I'd lay low.

Anyways, I'm at work til 9 tonight and tomorrow I should be able to do some decent talking if needed.

mauchow
03-10-2008, 05:24 PM
And someone asked me a question and I'd like to answer now w/out quoting it... my apologies.

No, I have not done any vote alterations. I need to PM Heinz my choice of extra vote and then he'll add it when he tally's the totals. That's as far as I know how it works.

As Heinz said, some abilities will be nice and some will be not so nice. I happen to land on the not so nice category.

Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2008, 06:45 PM
I'm not going to vote Mr. W right. Lathum at one point trying to point fingers at him for a suspicious reveal as Hiro. I do believe that Lathum was trying to get something else going because his own company was in jeopardy.
I like your reasoning. :)

Actually, though, I was thinking earlier today that the Company must have been pretty happy that I was managing to screw up my votes so well that I was squarely in the frame as a possible lynch candidate. I hadn't given much thought to the angle of Lathum's little push on my reveal. Notwithstanding the timing, I think we can all agree that a) SnDvls made it pretty clear that Hiro was in the game, although I came out too late for him to actually identify me, and b) if I weren't Hiro, then the real Hiro would have immediately contradicted me. That having been said, the only thing being Hiro means is that I'm not Sylar. It doesn't mean I'm not Company.

Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2008, 06:50 PM
If I may make an observation about Sylar, I think it's likely that he carried at least one of his powers from the show initially (telekinesis is one of those). I've forgotten what power he took from Narcizo.

Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2008, 06:57 PM
Still alive, green indicates strong confidence that the player in question is not Sylar:

1. Claphamsa - Noah Bennett/HRG
2. hoopsguy - Claire Bennett
3. The Jackal - Eden McCain
5. RendeR - Isaac Mendez
6. Thomkal (fka Pass) - DL Hawkins
8. path12 - Adam Monroe
9. Greyroofoo - Ted
13. DaddyTorgo - Nathan Petrelli
14. Mauboy1 - Elle Woods
15. Schmidty - Peter Petrelli
16. Neon Chaos - Lyle Bennett
17. Chief Rum - Matt Parkman
20. Barkeep49 - Daniel Linderman
21. Mr. Wednesday - Hiro

Folks that are not highlighted, either do not have a direct connection to corroborate their identity (or, if it were stated, I forgot it) or were killed by Sylar at some point on the show and thus might reasonably be coopted by him (particularly if he recognized an extra power and knew the show).

I would welcome any corrections that would improve the quality of this work, I simply don't have the time to go back and troll for additional connections between people that corroborate identity.

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 07:05 PM
Jackal, if you are feeling particularly frisky towards a player could you compel their vote towards Greyroofoo? That could accelerate the game, for better or worse ...

You mean at the last minute, so that GRF could use his kill ability on them? And remember, I can only do this if I'm tied or leading in the vote count.

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 07:07 PM
For now, I'm going with Mau.

Vote Mau

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 07:09 PM
To be honest, there's a few people I want to vote for. Mau, DT, BK. I could be convinced to go any of those ways, really. Main thing is probably just keeping the semi-established COT's votes together.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 08:04 PM
You mean at the last minute, so that GRF could use his kill ability on them? And remember, I can only do this if I'm tied or leading in the vote count.

Forgot this part of it. Hmm, that makes it a little less effective an idea ...

Thomkal
03-10-2008, 08:15 PM
Still alive, green indicates strong confidence that the player in question is not Sylar:

1. Claphamsa - Noah Bennett/HRG
2. hoopsguy - Claire Bennett
3. The Jackal - Eden McCain
5. RendeR - Isaac Mendez
6. Thomkal (fka Pass) - DL Hawkins
8. path12 - Adam Monroe
9. Greyroofoo - Ted
13. DaddyTorgo - Nathan Petrelli
14. Mauboy1 - Elle Woods
15. Schmidty - Peter Petrelli
16. Neon Chaos - Lyle Bennett
17. Chief Rum - Matt Parkman
20. Barkeep49 - Daniel Linderman
21. Mr. Wednesday - Hiro

Folks that are not highlighted, either do not have a direct connection to corroborate their identity (or, if it were stated, I forgot it) or were killed by Sylar at some point on the show and thus might reasonably be coopted by him (particularly if he recognized an extra power and knew the show).

I would welcome any corrections that would improve the quality of this work, I simply don't have the time to go back and troll for additional connections between people that corroborate identity.

Nice list Mr. W. The one I can somewhat dispute is Render. I saw him in his loft last night in a trance just like Issac did on the show when he was getting a vision of the future. I find it very hard to believe then that Jeheinz would make our seer the one guy everyone wants dead.

Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2008, 10:24 PM
Nice list Mr. W. The one I can somewhat dispute is Render. I saw him in his loft last night in a trance just like Issac did on the show when he was getting a vision of the future. I find it very hard to believe then that Jeheinz would make our seer the one guy everyone wants dead.

The first only proves that he has the power he claims to have, not that he isn't Sylar.

However, I buy the second for meta-gaming reasons, although it doesn't make RendeR quite as firm a "not Sylar" as the rest of the list.

Here's the updated list of people who are still alive, green indicates strong confidence that the player in question is not Sylar:

1. Claphamsa - Noah Bennett/HRG
2. hoopsguy - Claire Bennett
3. The Jackal - Eden McCain
5. RendeR - Isaac Mendez
6. Thomkal (fka Pass) - DL Hawkins
8. path12 - Adam Monroe
9. Greyroofoo - Ted
13. DaddyTorgo - Nathan Petrelli
14. Mauboy1 - Elle Woods
15. Schmidty - Peter Petrelli
16. Neon Chaos - Lyle Bennett
17. Chief Rum - Matt Parkman
20. Barkeep49 - Daniel Linderman
21. Mr. Wednesday - Hiro

Folks that are not highlighted, either do not have a direct connection to corroborate their identity (or, if it were stated, I forgot it) or were killed by Sylar at some point on the show and thus might reasonably be coopted by him (particularly if he recognized an extra power and knew the show).

I highlighted myself not because of personal confidence, but because I have claimed a role that has an external corroboration (SnDvls) for its existence. Without SnDvls claim that Hiro was in the game and had exchanged messages with him, I would leave myself in black (or highlight in a different color).

I would welcome any corrections that would improve the quality of this work, I simply don't have the time to go back and troll for additional connections between people that corroborate identity.

Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2008, 10:26 PM
Dola, if we ever get a confirmation of The Jackal's power, he comes off the list too — Sylar was unable to take Eden's power because she blew her brains out.

Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2008, 10:27 PM
Double dola, of the remaining list, Sylar killed Ted and the rest simply don't have anything to confirm that they are who they say they are.

Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2008, 10:29 PM
Triple dola, Sylar has taken superhuman strength (manifested as a bodyguard action). I don't recall that being a power already claimed by anyone, and it's not the sort of thing he's likely to use either.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 10:31 PM
RendeR scanned Greyroofoo as good (not Sylar). So I would strike him from the list as well.

I'm inclined to believe Chief Rum is Matt Parkman, based on the fact that multiple people have communicated with him via PM per his telepathic abilities - RendeR + NFG + Oliegirl. I don't think Olie ever verified this, but her role description cinched that Matt Parkman was in the game and no one has disputed the claim. So that is another guy off the list.

So that leaves the remaining names on your list as Jackal (demonstrated ability to move a vote), DaddyTorgo (ability called out by Alan), Mauboy, Neon (has PM'd with Jackal), and Barkeep (ability viewed by Alan - strong suspicion).

I don't know all the rules of Alan's ability to see powers - if he would see all the powers or just one - but at least initially I'm willing to work with the assumption that he would have seen Sylar's powers if he viewed their powers.

MrW, in your case SnDvls indicated that Hiro was in the game and no one has disputed your reveal. It isn't as strong a case as some of the others, but it is good enough for me for today.

So that is how I'm down to Mauboy = Sylar and that is why my vote is where it is at today. Hopefully my logic and reasoning is starting to get a little more dialed in as we get deeper in the game, because my gut sure wasn't very good earlier on with AE and Cronin to a lesser extent.

Greyroofoo
03-10-2008, 10:34 PM
RendeR scanned Greyroofoo as good (not Sylar). So I would strike him from the list as well.

I'm inclined to believe Chief Rum is Matt Parkman, based on the fact that multiple people have communicated with him via PM per his telepathic abilities - RendeR + NFG + Oliegirl. I don't think Olie ever verified this, but her role description cinched that Matt Parkman was in the game and no one has disputed the claim. So that is another guy off the list.



To me nfg22 made it sound like chief rum and him were never directly connected, they were both connected to oliegirl. But then again he was a wolf.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 10:35 PM
Grey, I think you are right on the connection. Chief (Matt Parkman) had one connection, but got to pick a new one when he lost his partner. NFG (Maury Parkman) got two connections to start.

Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2008, 10:41 PM
RendeR scanned Greyroofoo as good (not Sylar). So I would strike him from the list as well.

I'm inclined to believe Chief Rum is Matt Parkman, based on the fact that multiple people have communicated with him via PM per his telepathic abilities - RendeR + NFG + Oliegirl.
OK, done for both. With the elimination of GRF, we also eliminate the people (that I know of through partway through season 2) that he killed in the show, so I would imagine that he's faking a persona and ability.

So that leaves the remaining names on your list as Jackal (demonstrated ability to move a vote), DaddyTorgo (ability called out by Alan), Mauboy, Neon (has PM'd with Jackal), and Barkeep (ability viewed by Alan - strong suspicion).
Can you point me to where Neon has PM'd with The Jackal? That might be enough to rule one or both of them out.

Here's the updated list of people who are still alive, green indicates strong confidence that the player in question is not Sylar:

1. Claphamsa - Noah Bennett/HRG
2. hoopsguy - Claire Bennett
3. The Jackal - Eden McCain
5. RendeR - Isaac Mendez
6. Thomkal (fka Pass) - DL Hawkins
8. path12 - Adam Monroe
9. Greyroofoo - Ted
13. DaddyTorgo - Nathan Petrelli
14. Mauboy1 - Elle Woods
15. Schmidty - Peter Petrelli
16. Neon Chaos - Lyle Bennett
17. Chief Rum - Matt Parkman
20. Barkeep49 - Daniel Linderman
21. Mr. Wednesday - Hiro

Folks that are not highlighted, either do not have a direct connection to corroborate their identity (or, if it were stated, I forgot it).

I highlighted myself not because of personal confidence, but because I have claimed a role that has an external corroboration (SnDvls) for its existence. Without SnDvls claim that Hiro was in the game and had exchanged messages with him, I would leave myself in black (or highlight in a different color).

I would welcome any corrections that would improve the quality of this work, I simply don't have the time to go back and troll for additional connections between people that corroborate identity.

hoopsguy
03-10-2008, 10:47 PM
MrW, I'll look for those posts on Neon PM'ing Jackal tomorrow if one of the two involved parties doesn't beat me to it. Going from memory, Neon got to pick the person to PM (YouTube, as Lyle) and selected Jackal. I don't see where this would clear Jackal, but it helps Neon a little bit with a revealed character that struck me as improbable initially.

RendeR
03-10-2008, 10:50 PM
This is good list and if all of us that are higlited agree to vote in unison we should end this game in what? 5 days max?

Actually, less as long as I'm alive because I can scan someone other than our intended lynch victim.

So lets stick with mauboy1 for tomorrow and I'll select one of the others to scan.

Sound good people?

RendeR
03-10-2008, 10:54 PM
And a small clarification on CR's 'picking' a new contact person, he did not get to choose it, Heiney chose it for him so it was out of CR's hands. Which ads weight to my trust in CR.

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 11:54 PM
MrW, I'll look for those posts on Neon PM'ing Jackal tomorrow if one of the two involved parties doesn't beat me to it. Going from memory, Neon got to pick the person to PM (YouTube, as Lyle) and selected Jackal. I don't see where this would clear Jackal, but it helps Neon a little bit with a revealed character that struck me as improbable initially.

I donno where the posts are, but Neon chose Narcizo first and he was the bodyguard and then when Narcizo died, Neon chose me because he felt my actions on day two were enough to be at least somewhat trustworthy, plus we went through that whole lynch affair with both of us being threatened, and we were the "nail in the coffin" for AE, so to speak.

The Jackal
03-10-2008, 11:55 PM
I don't know that I trust that every single person on the green list is good, but with the majority or all of you voting together, combined with night scans and lynch results, we should be able to narrow this down pretty quickly.

Neon_Chaos
03-11-2008, 12:06 AM
I donno where the posts are, but Neon chose Narcizo first and he was the bodyguard and then when Narcizo died, Neon chose me because he felt my actions on day two were enough to be at least somewhat trustworthy, plus we went through that whole lynch affair with both of us being threatened, and we were the "nail in the coffin" for AE, so to speak.

I will confirm this as true. The Jackal is probably on the top of my list as an innocent (not Sylar, not Company), since he's proven his ability and his allegiance on the Day 2 vote.

And a small clarification on CR's 'picking' a new contact person, he did not get to choose it, Heiney chose it for him so it was out of CR's hands. Which ads weight to my trust in CR.

One quick question though, Render, my PM ability distinctly specifies that I am able to choose the person I want to establish communications with, are you certain that CR's ability doesn't allow him to choose who he has his PM connections with, and how does that add weight to your trust in him?

RendeR
03-11-2008, 12:10 AM
I will confirm this as true. The Jackal is probably on the top of my list as an innocent (not Sylar, not Company), since he's proven his ability and his allegiance on the Day 2 vote.



One quick question though, Render, my PM ability distinctly specifies that I am able to choose the person I want to establish communications with, are you certain that CR's ability doesn't allow him to choose who he has his PM connections with, and how does that add weight to your trust in him?


My PM was specifically FROM jeheinz and from what I read of CR's his was as well. It was pretty clear to me that it was not CR's option. If it HAD been CR's choice then I would not trust him nearly so much. I feel that JH would not have purposefully linked two opposing players this way.

RendeR
03-11-2008, 12:13 AM
And before I fall asleep and forget:


VOTE MAUBOY1

Neon_Chaos
03-11-2008, 12:16 AM
My PM was specifically FROM jeheinz and from what I read of CR's his was as well. It was pretty clear to me that it was not CR's option. If it HAD been CR's choice then I would not trust him nearly so much. I feel that JH would not have purposefully linked two opposing players this way.

Oh, ok. I was just asking, because the wording semantics of my opening PM to The Jackal involved jeheinz specifically stating that I was the one who chose him. Just another quirk, perhaps.

Neon_Chaos
03-11-2008, 12:17 AM
Oh, and yes.

Vote mauboy

He's either Company or Sylar, I think, which is win/win for us, hopefully.

Chief Rum
03-11-2008, 02:20 AM
To me nfg22 made it sound like chief rum and him were never directly connected, they were both connected to oliegirl. But then again he was a wolf.

I was never directly connected to nfg. I have no reason to think oliegirl was lying, though, so I assume nfg was telling the truth about that.

Point of information, I have not been able to choose my connections. I started the game with oliegirl, and then I was told after her death that I had developed a new connection with Render.

Chief Rum
03-11-2008, 02:21 AM
And a small clarification on CR's 'picking' a new contact person, he did not get to choose it, Heiney chose it for him so it was out of CR's hands. Which ads weight to my trust in CR.

Oh good, Render already brought this up. Thanks!

Chief Rum
03-11-2008, 02:21 AM
I see no reason to switch away from my vote from yesterday. It seems likely we have a good shot at another baddie here.

VOTE MAUBOY1

Schmidty
03-11-2008, 04:02 AM
Vote mauboy1

Forgot to vote earlier.

hoopsguy
03-11-2008, 05:57 AM
I donno where the posts are, but Neon chose Narcizo first and he was the bodyguard and then when Narcizo died, Neon chose me because he felt my actions on day two were enough to be at least somewhat trustworthy, plus we went through that whole lynch affair with both of us being threatened, and we were the "nail in the coffin" for AE, so to speak.

The "Green" list is a "Not Sylar" list - some of the people on that list still have potential to be Company. The events of Day 2 don't mean much for you and Neon in terms of not being Sylar, but it stands to reason they help you in terms of not being Company. I'm suggesting there are other reasons to think that the two of you are less likely to be Sylar, but the cases are not as compelling as people who have been Seer-cleared.

claphamsa
03-11-2008, 06:24 AM
Ok, just gonna toss this out there...Has anyone thought waht Sylars win rules are? Is it possible, that he wins when the comapny is all killed?

claphamsa
03-11-2008, 06:24 AM
Ok after looking at that it doest make sense :)

Thomkal
03-11-2008, 07:19 AM
This is good list and if all of us that are higlited agree to vote in unison we should end this game in what? 5 days max?

Actually, less as long as I'm alive because I can scan someone other than our intended lynch victim.

So lets stick with mauboy1 for tomorrow and I'll select one of the others to scan.

Sound good people?

To follow up on this, it may be a good idea to keep me alive as well because that basically gives us good guys two scans a day with my spy power (chance that it fails though). Sooner or later Render or I are bound to hit on Sylar or any Company members left, and the odds get better for us with every person we can cross off the list.

I'd willing to vote for mauboy1 today to support our seer here, even though its not the one I'd like to vote for. Render you might think about telling me who you are going to scan if you think it it safe to do so, so we don't duplicate our efforts.

Thomkal
03-11-2008, 07:24 AM
VOTE MAUBOY1

hoopsguy
03-11-2008, 07:46 AM
Thomkal, who would you prefer to vote for today and why?

We certainly don't need to be unanimous on our votes - in fact, doing so obscures the value of voting records. I would rather have people voicing their opinions on the correct move and have their vote reflect that opinion.

DaddyTorgo
03-11-2008, 08:17 AM
need to get a vote in, not sure how busy my morning will be today

VOTE THE JACKEL

Thomkal
03-11-2008, 08:21 AM
I'd like to vote for DaddyTorgo. Alan suspected him, and there's the matter of the alleged attack on Path where he was dropped from a great height. Nathan Petrelli's (who DT says he is) power on the show is flight. Plus it wouldn't surprise me that if one of the Petrellis is evil like I said with my character's family. Right now we are thinking Schmidty (Peter Petrelli) is good, so I think its possible DT is bad.

But I don't want to screw up Render if he's already put in his seer view for the day and won't be around to change it. I'm assuming it won't be mauboy, so we should vote him out to avoid the confusion there and because he is high on the suspect list for many.

jeheinz72
03-11-2008, 08:31 AM
Mauboy1 (9): hoopsguy (1795), claphamsa (1798), Barkeep49 (1801), Jackal (1826), RendeR (1845), Neon Chaos (1847), Chief Rum (1850), Schmidty (1851), Thomkal (1856)

Path12 (1): DaddyTorgo (1811)

DaddyTorgo (1): path12 (1817)


Not Voting (3): Greyroofoo, Mauboy1, Mr. Wednesday

jeheinz72
03-11-2008, 08:31 AM
need to get a vote in, not sure how busy my morning will be today

VOTE THE JACKEL

FYI, this vote is invalid (no unvote of previous vote)

path12
03-11-2008, 10:10 AM
I'm going to keep my vote where it is. I don't think Mauboy is a bad vote, but I don't think DT is either. Plus he never answered my last post where I asked him if he was willing to put himself on the line as I have.

claphamsa
03-11-2008, 10:11 AM
now dont all type at once !

mauchow
03-11-2008, 10:19 AM
How am I to put myself on the line? Yeah, put me on the line. It's too late as it is. But that's fine, I've accepted my fate as a hero who has fallen. I couldn't really make my role noticeable for everyone to enter me into the circle of trust. Adding a vote onto a total just to prove my innocence seems kinda silly, why wouldn't I try making it worth while? Ah, well I guess. The heroes pretty much dominated this game so we don't really have to worry at this time.

If we somehow lose this game I'm going to be pissed. That is all. LOL

Thomkal
03-11-2008, 11:04 AM
Render, I see you are here now, any thoughts about my question earlier?

path12
03-11-2008, 11:29 AM
How am I to put myself on the line? Yeah, put me on the line.

Dude, I was talking about DT. ;)

The Jackal
03-11-2008, 11:42 AM
need to get a vote in, not sure how busy my morning will be today

VOTE THE JACKEL

Uh. Okay?

The Jackal
03-11-2008, 11:43 AM
Screw this, I'm with Alan.

Unvote Mau

Vote DT

Greyroofoo
03-11-2008, 11:44 AM
guess i'll be jumping on the bandwagon

vote mauboy

The Jackal
03-11-2008, 11:45 AM
I realize my vote will mean nothing in fifteen minutes, but hey, gotta defend my honor. Hot chick power!

The Jackal
03-11-2008, 11:46 AM
Thomkal, who would you prefer to vote for today and why?

We certainly don't need to be unanimous on our votes - in fact, doing so obscures the value of voting records. I would rather have people voicing their opinions on the correct move and have their vote reflect that opinion.

I think Mau and DT are good options, so we'll see what happens.

jeheinz72
03-11-2008, 11:55 AM
Mauboy1 (9): hoopsguy (1795), claphamsa (1798), Barkeep49 (1801), RendeR (1845), Neon Chaos (1847), Chief Rum (1850), Schmidty (1851), Thomkal (1856), GreyRooFoo (1869)

DaddyTorgo (2): path12 (1817), Jackal (1868)

Path12 (1): DaddyTorgo (1811)

Not Voting (2): Mauboy1, Mr. Wednesday

jeheinz72
03-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Deadline.

Vote total above is accurate, results next.

jeheinz72
03-11-2008, 12:04 PM
There is a bounce in everyone's step as the group convenes for the day. Which is surprising, since one of you is dying today. The votes are in and it's fairly clear, Mauboy has to go today. The focus on him begins, but just as it does, he begins radiating electricity from his hands. He shouts "Hold your horses folks, you've got the wrong guy. Let me show you what to do". And with that, he unleashes a furious bolt of electricity towards Barkeep49. He is electrocuted almost instantly.

Deciding just one person needs to die today, you investiage Barkeep's somewhat charred body and find nothing of note.

Barkeep49 was Daniel Linderman, and he was a Hero!


Daniel Linderman

Power: You have the ability to heal other people. For our purposes, we’ll call that guarding them. Each night you send me a name, and that person will have a reduced change of dying if attacked


Night results coming next!

Greyroofoo
03-11-2008, 12:06 PM
lets all hope he can only do that once

Thomkal
03-11-2008, 12:07 PM
I spied on Clap tonight just in case I got killed. I still suspect him and DT the most if the game is still going. Neon and Jackal will have to be looked at if those two aren't Sylar/Company, then there's Schmidty has not been officially cleared though it looks good for him at this point.

Thomkal
03-11-2008, 12:07 PM
oh that's wonderful

Thomkal
03-11-2008, 12:08 PM
I hope someone else protected Render...

Neon_Chaos
03-11-2008, 12:10 PM
I scanned Jackal tonight, just in case there's a Sylar kill, in order to clear him. I hope you other seers at least followed me.

jeheinz72
03-11-2008, 12:13 PM
Night 6 results

Hardly able to sleep after the confusing actions of the day you awaken to your radio and faintly catch the host mentioning a Serial Killer of some sort.

You flip on the tube and hear another disturbing tale of a man who was sitting at home when someone came in and attacked him. Again, the top of his head was cut completely off. You wonder what is next as you recognize the man as Thomkal.

Thomkal is dead. He was D.L. Hawkins, a Hero!


DL Hawkins

Power: You have the ability to “phase”. Meaning you can walk through walls and any solid object (if you are focused on doing so). You have two options each night, both with a random degree of success. You can choose to either A) Protect yourself or B) Spy on someone. Simply PM me your decision by the deadline (and specify a person if spying)


Day/Night Seven has started! Votes and Night Actions are due at 1 PM EST on Wednesday, 3/12!

claphamsa
03-11-2008, 12:14 PM
Damnit mau!

Greyroofoo
03-11-2008, 12:14 PM
just to try again unless people think its a bad idea

vote mauboy

Thomkal
03-11-2008, 12:16 PM
Bastard! Good luck to the remaining players (especially the heroes :) )

Greyroofoo
03-11-2008, 12:18 PM
also just a thought, I think we've had 2 nights with only 1 night kill, anyone think it's possible the company is gone and only sylar remains?

Neon_Chaos
03-11-2008, 12:19 PM
Ugh. Ok. Waiting for PM about my scan. I hope we can clear people off one by one now.

random.org, do not fail me now.

Neon_Chaos
03-11-2008, 12:22 PM
also just a thought, I think we've had 2 nights with only 1 night kill, anyone think it's possible the company is gone and only sylar remains?

That is indeed a possibility, Grey. If the head was cut open for both nights, then it's a big chance that that's so. Let me check back on what happened to Alan T on night 6.

claphamsa
03-11-2008, 12:23 PM
vote mau


If nothing else, we know he lied about his power.....

Neon_Chaos
03-11-2008, 12:24 PM
Night 5 results

Another successful day for the group! Will this nightmare ever end? Will you ever feel safe living in the world as an enhanced human being? Is there any sort of cure? Would you want a cure?

Again you flip on the tube over your eggs, this time hoping for a better newsbreak then yesterday. Sadly, it's reminiscient of yesterday. Another child has died. This poor girl was poisoned in her sleep in her room. Looks like she had a cool room, all covered with maps. You recognize her instantly as poor little Molly.

Alan T has died, he was Molly Walker, a Hero!



Day/Night 6 has begun! Votes and Night Actions are due at 1 PM EST on Tuesday, 3/11


Ok, here is the Alan T kill.

He doesn't seem like he died from a Sylar kill. Poison, apparently. Not sure if the means of death (outside of the open head description) has anything to do with who killed who.

DaddyTorgo
03-11-2008, 12:30 PM
whoops...i forgot i had voted last night and that's why i voted again je.

what was your question to me path? I must have missed it. I haven't been the most on top of things this game...

Neon_Chaos
03-11-2008, 12:39 PM
I got my scan! Woohoo! It worked! That's two times in the past 6 days, yay.

Anyway, we can clear The Jackal of being Sylar. He was nowhere near Thomkal last night.

The Jackal
03-11-2008, 12:52 PM
Thanks, neon.

Vote Mau

path12
03-11-2008, 01:02 PM
DT, I admitted in the post you quoted that I lied about how my power worked earlier - I can be killed eventually at night. My power works exactly as Path described.

Now Path could be lying:
1.) He may not have been attacked earlier in the game by Sylar as he has suggested - there is no confirmation on this
2.) He may have not been attacked by Greyroofoo at night. But Grey (Seer scanned by RendeR last night) says he did attack him, so it would have to be a fairly big conspiracy

I think it is almost impossible for Path to be Sylar if Sylar's powers are gained through night kills. No one who has died had the ability to survive a kill attempt. In the show Peter could assume this power by contact with someone who has it (he absorbs it from Claire in Season 1) but Sylar would have to kill someone to take it.

Indeed. And as I've said twice, I am fine with being lynched if that is what is needed to prove that the information I've given so far is correct.

Are you willing to do the same, DT?

This was the question I was waiting for an answer on.

DT, did you attempt to night-kill Path earlier in the game? Alan indicated that you had the powers that matched up with his description of events. You later admitted to having these powers, but I don't think you ever said one way or another what you have done with your powers.

......but I'd love to hear an answer to this one as well!

RendeR
03-11-2008, 01:10 PM
W


T



F!!!!

RendeR
03-11-2008, 01:28 PM
umm, are we still getting night PM responses or have I just been ignored?

Schmidty
03-11-2008, 01:32 PM
He can only do it once, because that was the power I learned last night. 1 time use according to my PM.


lets all hope he can only do that once

Schmidty
03-11-2008, 01:33 PM
I spied on Render last night and nothing happened. I just got the normal "He ate and went to bed" type thing.

RendeR
03-11-2008, 01:38 PM
Yeah, I didn't do shit last night, my PM never got sent in. FUCK. I had it all typed out too right after I had voted and I either never hit send or sometihng else happened and I never got it out before I logged off.

My bad guys.

Schmidty
03-11-2008, 01:39 PM
Damn, that means you could still be Sylar. :)

RendeR
03-11-2008, 01:41 PM
Damn, that means you could still be Sylar. :)


I'm not sure how, other people have seen me sitting in my trance overnight already. They pretty well confirmed I am what I said I am.

Mr. Wednesday
03-11-2008, 01:46 PM
The trance confirms the power, but not the identity, unless that was the night when Sylar killed.

I think I moved you to the clear list for meta reasons.

Also, while I'm not thrilled with mau's action, he was kind enough to hit someone who wasn't on the non-Sylar list.

RendeR
03-11-2008, 03:19 PM
I think my point is why would I bother scaning anyone if I'm sylar?

The heros are going to get the company guys far faster than he can and he knows that everyone is his enemy, there is nothing useful for sylar to scan for.

hoopsguy
03-11-2008, 03:38 PM
Mau, since it is only a matter of time before we take you down do you feel like sharing any information with us on the other faction?

mauchow
03-11-2008, 03:57 PM
Are you fucking serious? Why WOULDN'T I lie about being the Duke. I tried not making it too obvious that I was the duke but what kind of power is being able to add one vote? Pbbffft.

I try saving myself as a hero by miraculously nailing a company member/sylar and now all of a sudden I'm going to be lynched next day anyways.

Trust me, I'm not a company member or sylar. I'm the Duke. I'm going to be looking into the guys who really jumped at the opportunities to quickly vote for me.

It was indeed a ONE time use so if you DO choose to lynch me again I will not be able to do it again.

I apologize completely Heinz for not voting for anybody. I tried talking out loud possible scenarios in my email to Heinz that I forgot to vote.

Anyways, if you seriously want to vote for me after today that is fine but really, we should be going a different route.

My shortened thought process:

I use my duke ability to take out one of the people who aren't on any list as "for sure not Sylar." That's why I took out barkeep. I wanted to take someone out who wasn't on any lists to be scanned(i.e. DaddyT, my original PM to Heinz was to lynch him instead) and has been pretty quiet.

mauchow
03-11-2008, 04:00 PM
Sorry for the naughty word, by the way. I was smiling during the lynch post from Heinz, HOPING that I nailed someone really bad but it didn't happen. I started getting madder and madder as I saw my name mentioned more and more.

The Jackal
03-11-2008, 04:08 PM
Meh, I believe you have the duke power but I'm nowhere near convinced that you aren't sylar. Why didn't you take out DT who a lot of us suspected as the last company member, anyways?

mauchow
03-11-2008, 04:16 PM
As I previously explained, everyone was going to be doing their snooping on DT so I didn't want to lose any information. I was trying to get lucky by taking out someone else. I wanted to shorten the 'sylar list' while find out more about DT since supposedly everyone wanted to know more about. Nothing else to it.

vote daddytorgo

Why would I be Sylar and have a Duke role? Nobody that has died had the Duke role. My understanding is that Sylar can absorb an ability after a kill, certainly no duke has died yet.

path12
03-11-2008, 04:22 PM
Sorry for the naughty word, by the way. I was smiling during the lynch post from Heinz, HOPING that I nailed someone really bad but it didn't happen. I started getting madder and madder as I saw my name mentioned more and more.


Your language is really fucking out of bounds. Fucker. ;) :p

path12
03-11-2008, 04:23 PM
Did anyone get a scan on DaddyTorgo?

hoopsguy
03-11-2008, 04:41 PM
I'm not sure that use of Duke power = good guy in this game. But the write-up certainly seems to suggest Elle (electricity) which makes it hard to believe he is Sylar. I'm surprised she is in the game without her father, but so be it.

Your explanation on taking out Barkeep makes sense - probably not the guy I would have taken out, but so be it.

So why would Sylar opt to take out Thomkal last night? Sure he fears the spy role, but at some point he is going to have to deal with Peter, Isaac, and two guys who don't die easily (me and Path) to get down to four players. Thomkal's powers probably are not the most interesting ones out there. The only conclusion I can draw is get rid of someone who can watch him that is unlikely to be guarded.

Schmidty
03-11-2008, 04:42 PM
I have one request:

Will the true Sylar please vote for me? PLEEEAAASE!!!!

The Jackal
03-11-2008, 05:09 PM
I still find Mau's overall story a little fishy but I really believe DT has more to hide.

unvote mau

vote DT

mauchow
03-11-2008, 05:27 PM
I still find Mau's overall story a little fishy but I really believe DT has more to hide.

unvote mau

vote DT

My story isn't fishy. You'll see when I revealed my role that I said something to the effect: "I don't think I'm a good enough player to make a decision that is best for the heroes." I tried and it ended up backfiring a little but it still worked to a certain extent for the heroes. I shorted the list for possible Sylar targets, or so that was my attempt.

hoopsguy
03-11-2008, 05:29 PM
So Mau, where do you think we go from here?

Lathum
03-11-2008, 06:00 PM
So Mau, where do you think we go from here?

classic hoops question

The Jackal
03-11-2008, 06:09 PM
My story isn't fishy. You'll see when I revealed my role that I said something to the effect: "I don't think I'm a good enough player to make a decision that is best for the heroes." I tried and it ended up backfiring a little but it still worked to a certain extent for the heroes. I shorted the list for possible Sylar targets, or so that was my attempt.

Yeah. I guess it's good that BK is cleared, though it's a shame the way it had to happen.

path12
03-11-2008, 06:10 PM
I don't know if I did this yet.

VOTE DADDYTORGO

My opinions and questions of and about him haven't changed.

Mr. Wednesday
03-11-2008, 06:32 PM
Here's the updated list of people who are still alive, green indicates strong confidence that the player in question is not Sylar:

1. Claphamsa - Noah Bennett/HRG
2. hoopsguy - Claire Bennett
3. The Jackal - Eden McCain
5. RendeR - Isaac Mendez
8. path12 - Adam Monroe
9. Greyroofoo - Ted
13. DaddyTorgo - Nathan Petrelli
14. Mauboy1 - Elle Woods
15. Schmidty - Peter Petrelli
16. Neon Chaos - Lyle Bennett
17. Chief Rum - Matt Parkman
21. Mr. Wednesday - Hiro

Folks that are not highlighted, either do not have a direct connection to corroborate their identity (or, if it were stated, I forgot it).

I highlighted myself not because of personal confidence, but because I have claimed a role that has an external corroboration (SnDvls) for its existence. Without SnDvls claim that Hiro was in the game and had exchanged messages with him, I would leave myself in black (or highlight in a different color).

I would welcome any corrections that would improve the quality of this work, I simply don't have the time to go back and troll for additional connections between people that corroborate identity.

Mr. Wednesday
03-11-2008, 06:33 PM
As things stand, I think the best target is DT. We can re-evaluate tomorrow if we're wrong.

VOTE DaddyTorgo

Mr. Wednesday
03-11-2008, 06:34 PM
Double dola, I feel a lot better about mau now than I did yesterday. I maybe even should shade him green, because the power adds up and IIRC she hadn't been killed by Sylar through the point in season 2 where I postponed watching.

mauchow
03-11-2008, 06:37 PM
classic hoops question

Yeah, considering I have no idea how to answer it. I wish I had the best possible evidence to point us in the right direction.

However, I stand by my statement in which I wanted to clear two people, one being the person I lynched and myself. I figured everyone would be hard on DaddyT for night stuff and now RendeR conveniently forgot to submit something. I semi believe him but I won't be forgetting the mistake any time soon.

Last night I submitted to Heinz that I wanted to Lynch DT. I submitted it last night just in case I didn't get back to the forums in time to do some more research on my decision. My thoughts then transformed into what I did today. Good or bad move? I'm not sure yet. If I get lynched tonight, it was obviously a bad move. If I had lynched DT instead and he was a hero as well, would I still be getting lynched? Who knows. It's all hindsight and it looks like people are coming to their senses anyways about this whole thing.

Is DaddyT on top of my list? Probably not, everyone is even in my book pretty much with the exception of a few.

claphamsa
03-11-2008, 06:41 PM
no more runnaways peiople!!!!!

has anyone cleared neon? I dont trust them furriners!

RendeR
03-11-2008, 06:57 PM
I pm'd with JH about my missed scan, totally my fault for not ensuring it went through last night. I won't make the same mistake twice I assure you.

I'm going to say we all (those shaded green thus far) should vote together and simply work our way through things. It gives us the advantage in numbers and it gives those of us with scanning ability spying ability the time to really work.

VOTE DADDYTORGO

I will be submitting my conditoinal scan orders in about 5 minutes.

RendeR
03-11-2008, 07:01 PM
Ok, my vote is in AND my orders are in. I apologize again for last night guys, wasted chance and it was all my fault.

RendeR
03-11-2008, 07:04 PM
no more runnaways peiople!!!!!

has anyone cleared neon? I dont trust them furriners!


I don't think pushing for close votes really works for us anymore clam....at this stage we trust enough people to simply pick them off one at a time till we hit paydirt.

hoopsguy
03-11-2008, 07:57 PM
I would like to see if DT is even going to mount a defense. We've had some quiet/half-hearted defenses by people to questioning. By and large that has worked out well, but I would prefer conversation because I generally feel like you learn more when people respond to pressure. It also is good for the game in a long-term sense when people are engaged and care about the outcome and their survival.

I'll end up throwing my vote on DT, more than likely, but I'm not sure it matters at this point. As it looks right now my theory on Mau has been proven wrong (Mau = Sylar) like a number of my ideas this game. I'm just glad we are doing well as a team up to this point, despite the adversity of the last day.

hoopsguy
03-11-2008, 08:00 PM
Night kills so far this game:

11. NTNDeacon - Hero - Bullet to Brain Night One
22. oliegirl - Hero - Dead of unkown causes Night Two
12. SnDvls - Hero - Beaten to Death Night Four
18. Narcizo - Hero - Head Cut Off Night Four
23. Alan T - Hero - Poisoned Night Five
20. Barkeep49 - Hero - Zapped by Mauboy1 Day Six
6. Thomkal (fka Pass) - Hero - Head Cut off Night Six

hoopsguy
03-11-2008, 08:14 PM
Night 1 - we've gone with the assumption that this was a Company kill due to the use of a gun.

Night 2 - this is the hardest one to figure, no real information to work with on the kill. It could potentially be a Sylar kill if he starts with no powers, only acquiring power with his kills. However, in the show he acquires powers that allow him to do his signature head kill that we are seeing in the later kills. That hasn't happened with anyone that has been killed here, certainly not Wes. So that diminishes for me, to some extent, the idea that Sylar starts "powerless" and that this is his kill. I guess I still lean towards Company here.

Night 3 - This is the night Path indicates he was attacked by a flying character. No other night kill here - Sylar or Company? Alan has basically called out DT as having the ability to do this. The ability could potentially be Sylar (stole West/Olie powers on Night 2) or DT's Nathan claim, although he has had ample opportunity to confess to taking this action with good intentions.

Night 4 - clear Sylar kill on Narcizo, clear Company kill on SnDvls

Night 5 - nothing to indicate that Sylar would poison, sounds like Company to me

Night 6 - clear Sylar kill


So, I would buy into the idea that Sylar/Company rotate kills, but if so then what happened on Night 4 when they both got kill options?

Company: N1 (80%), N2 (40%), N4 (100%)
Sylar: N1 (20%), N2 (60%), N4 (100%), N6 (100%)

hoopsguy
03-11-2008, 08:19 PM
I really wish we had the damn scan on DT - it would go a long ways towards helping decide what to do with Path. If Path was honest about being attacked on Night 3 and still volunteered for Grey to attack him then I 100% trust him. If he bluffed about being night attacked then he could have bluffed again with Grey, knowing he would absolutely survive it.

I would like to see him as our next scan, I think. And I would like to see someone account for MrW's actions at night. We don't know a thing about his powers so far, what kind of information he may have collected, etc. I would like some kind of discussion in the thread about pros/cons of revealing this information now that we are up to Day #7

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 12:05 AM
OK, going to bed. DT seems to be a no-show since at least deadline. I would have liked to at least hear from him as I'm having a hard time believing that Nathan Petrelli is Sylar - I'm fully expecting that role to be in the game and would prefer to take shots at people who could be either Company or Sylar.

Whatever side he is on, I hope he shows up at some point to join in the discussion before being led off to his death.

VOTE DADDYTORGO

Neon_Chaos
03-12-2008, 12:07 AM
1. Claphamsa - Noah Bennett/HRG
2. hoopsguy - Claire Bennett
3. The Jackal - Eden McCain
5. RendeR - Isaac Mendez
8. path12 - Adam Monroe
9. Greyroofoo - Ted
13. DaddyTorgo - Nathan Petrelli
14. Mauboy1 - Elle Woods
15. Schmidty - Peter Petrelli
16. Neon Chaos - Lyle Bennett
17. Chief Rum - Matt Parkman
21. Mr. Wednesday - Hiro
I would suggest you double check that list.

I can verify that The Jackal is not Sylar. I scanned him last night, and he was nowhere near Thomkal. I'm definitely not Sylar. If someone wants to verify my identity tonight via scanning, kindly do so. I'm surprised noone has done that yet.

If we consider that mauboy's power is indeed Elle Woods' and the fact DT cannot be Sylar by being a major character (as hoops said), then we're stuck with no Sylar, and an all-green list.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sylar started off having a couple of powers. Ones he got from other people that aren't in the list of players. Does anyone know if he might have a power on the TV show to hide himself or something similar?

We will need to take a second look at everyone, their reveals, and their claims to innocence.

As for my vote, I will have to go with my gut, and The Jackal today.

Vote DaddyTorgo

Chief Rum
03-12-2008, 01:28 AM
I don't know we have any smoking gun here, but, really, as hoops said, we're in a strong position to pick off enemies going forward. I am comfortable with going after DT tomorrow.

VOTE DADDY TORGO

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 08:20 AM
daddytorgo is here!

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 08:24 AM
I am not Sylar.

Lynching me will not net you Sylar.

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 08:26 AM
I should be around till deadline, so whatever people want to know I'll answer.

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 08:34 AM
If it's not me and it's not Mau then it's either Jackel or Neon (or Path, but i will let that rest for the moment). Neon is claiming to vouch for Jackel and then states that he's going to follow Jackel's vote on me. Seems like a nice easy way to hide your vote in the middle of a developing runaway. Seems to me that the only way Neon could be sure that Jackel isn't Sylar and would back him is if Neon is Sylar.

I am not Sylar. I'm willing to concede that perhaps I was wrong about Path for the moment, as going by the "green list" it's got to either be mau/jackel/neon and if jackel was sylar and neon actually wasn't then neon would find out that he was sylar and reveal that. but if neon's sylar than he can safely say jackel isn't and gain trust from everyone that way. for the moment i'm willing to concede that neither mau nor path are sylar.

VOTE NEON CHAOS

Neon_Chaos
03-12-2008, 09:06 AM
If it's not me and it's not Mau then it's either Jackel or Neon (or Path, but i will let that rest for the moment). Neon is claiming to vouch for Jackel and then states that he's going to follow Jackel's vote on me. Seems like a nice easy way to hide your vote in the middle of a developing runaway. Seems to me that the only way Neon could be sure that Jackel isn't Sylar and would back him is if Neon is Sylar.

I am not Sylar. I'm willing to concede that perhaps I was wrong about Path for the moment, as going by the "green list" it's got to either be mau/jackel/neon and if jackel was sylar and neon actually wasn't then neon would find out that he was sylar and reveal that. but if neon's sylar than he can safely say jackel isn't and gain trust from everyone that way. for the moment i'm willing to concede that neither mau nor path are sylar.

VOTE NEON CHAOS

I am not claiming to vouch for Jackal. I am vouching for Jackal. I scanned him last night, and saw him do nothing.

I have stated my two abilities during my reveal, in case you or anyone else has missed it: I have PM rights with one person that I choose (Narcizo first, and now Jackal). I also have a random chance of scanning someone's abilities if that person uses it that night. Last night, I scanned Jackal in order to close the circle even more, and I was succesful, I didn't see anything that would indicate that he killed Thomkal. I know it looks bad for me being Sylar, but hey, we've got the numbers right now, and the more people we can clear, the better.

If you don't turn out to be a bad guy tonight, I will be willing to put myself on the line tomorrow. I have nothing to hide, in fact, I would like Render or Schmidty to scan me to prove it.

Your sudden obsession about trying to divert the vote towards me leads me to believe that your are probably a Company member. Path12's escape of a "flying" night kill and your ability certainly points towards that.

I would be open to being a lynch candidate tomorrow if noone can prove that I am not Sylar tonight. But the fact is, you're most likely the last Company member (if there wasn't a conversion), and you're trying to misdirect everyone to buy yourself some time.

jeheinz72
03-12-2008, 09:07 AM
DaddyTorgo (8): mauboy1 (1906), Jackal (1911), path12 (1916), Mr. Wednesday (1918), RendeR (1922), hoopsguy (1929), NeonChaos (1930), ChiefRum (1931)

Mauboy1 (2): GRF (1882), claphamsa (1887)

Neon Chaos (1): DaddyTorgo (1935)

Not voting: Schmidty

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 09:16 AM
night kills are not correlated to abilities. i have killed in all sorts of different ways during the game. so your logic there is faulty Neon.

i did try to kill path and failed. and since Sylar can't be night-killed by the company, we should assume path=sylar

UNVOTE NEON CHAOS

VOTE DADDYTORGO

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 09:39 AM
DT, can you give us the rundown on Company activities so far? Might as well get this out now rather than in the post-game ... what were the rules on killing? Why did you guys target who you did?

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 09:45 AM
ah, let's wait till the postgame hoopy-doo. i'd rather focus on trying to puzzle through who sylar is with you guys over the next 2 hours.

like i said - i targeted path one night and it was unsuccessful. which made me think that he is Sylar. to be honest i'm not really sure what he has said/done that clears him. but keep in mind his victory conditions are different - he doesn't need to get to 1:1 or anything, just till there are 4 total people left.

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 09:49 AM
in general though: we got 1 kill a night - our targeting who we did was largely a "scattershot" approach to try to keep you all guessing.

with thomkal the other day - both sylar and myself must have targeted thomkal and sylar's kill took priority over mine. so you all lucked out there. so look for people who can't account for their whereabouts/actions on that night in particular.

in fact finding sylar should be easy, just cross-reference that with people who can't account for their actions/whereabouts on the nights sylar got other kills.

mauchow
03-12-2008, 09:53 AM
ugh

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 10:14 AM
DT, Grey has been cleared as a villager and he used his power on Path. Path lived - he should have been able to be night-killed by a villager.

This would support the idea that he is Adam Monroe. I'm up for any alternative theories that you have on how Sylar would have lived through a villager night-kill.

I don't disagree with your other thoughts on Sylar, in terms of how to find him. But Path has done a good job of presenting a case for him being Adam. So I'm not inclined to vote for him today - let RendeR sort it out and we keep looking for Sylar elsewhere during the next day.

Do you feel like commenting, one way or another, on if your death would mean the end of the Company in this game? Do you want to comment one way or another on conversion as a mechanic? Tell the truth, lie, whatever floats your boat. I'll at least listen.

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 10:21 AM
DT, Grey has been cleared as a villager and he used his power on Path. Path lived - he should have been able to be night-killed by a villager.

This would support the idea that he is Adam Monroe. I'm up for any alternative theories that you have on how Sylar would have lived through a villager night-kill.

I don't disagree with your other thoughts on Sylar, in terms of how to find him. But Path has done a good job of presenting a case for him being Adam. So I'm not inclined to vote for him today - let RendeR sort it out and we keep looking for Sylar elsewhere during the next day.

Do you feel like commenting, one way or another, on if your death would mean the end of the Company in this game? Do you want to comment one way or another on conversion as a mechanic? Tell the truth, lie, whatever floats your boat. I'll at least listen.

I see. Well then I suppose Path isn't Sylar. Which makes it Mau or Neon, as I don't see a reason for Neon to fake-clear Jackel unless Neon's actually Sylar and trying to buy trust.

Or it's somebody on the green-list who has hoodwinked you all.
Do I feel like commenting...hmmm. Let me ponder that.

Thomkal
03-12-2008, 10:31 AM
in general though: we got 1 kill a night - our targeting who we did was largely a "scattershot" approach to try to keep you all guessing.

with thomkal the other day - both sylar and myself must have targeted thomkal and sylar's kill took priority over mine. so you all lucked out there. so look for people who can't account for their whereabouts/actions on that night in particular.

in fact finding sylar should be easy, just cross-reference that with people who can't account for their actions/whereabouts on the nights sylar got other kills.

I feel so loved. :)

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 10:36 AM
I feel so loved. :)

or despised.

"popular" might be a better word than loved.

Thomkal
03-12-2008, 11:16 AM
gee despised, thanks a lot Company guy.

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 11:46 AM
gee despised, thanks a lot Company guy.


anytime. anytime.

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 12:04 PM
deadline.

i's dead.

jeheinz72
03-12-2008, 12:04 PM
Deadline..

Votes as they were cast...

DaddyTorgo (8): mauboy1 (1906), Jackal (1911), path12 (1916), Mr. Wednesday (1918), RendeR (1922), hoopsguy (1929), NeonChaos (1930), ChiefRum (1931)

Mauboy1 (2): GRF (1882), claphamsa (1887)

Neon Chaos (1): DaddyTorgo (1935)

Not voting: Schmidty

jeheinz72
03-12-2008, 12:09 PM
After the shocking events of yesterday, people gather tepidly. After brief frustration centered at Mauboy's poor decision, the gang quickly piles upon DaddyTorgo. Without much resistance, he admits he works for the Company, and slices his own throat.

DaddyTorgo was Nathan Petrelli, working for the Company!


Nathan Petrelli

Power: You have the ability to fly. As such, you are harder to kill and can spy. Each lynch, you start off with -1 votes. Only you and your wolves will know this. Each night, if you are not the one attempting the Company kill, you can spy on a player, with random success. The better “look” you get, the more you will learn about their power.<O:p></O:p>


Night results coming next!

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 12:14 PM
I'm extremely concerned with Schmidty not getting his vote in and hoping that Sylar (or Company, if applicable) did not notice this before taking their actions.

Dude only has 6-7 powers to use ...

path12
03-12-2008, 12:18 PM
This deadline messes me up. 10AM is busy time.

jeheinz72
03-12-2008, 12:20 PM
After the exciting results of the day, killing off yet another Company member you are curious as to what may lie ahead. You wake up and follow your routine, turning on the news. Nothing but gumdrops and lollipops though as your hear stories of good samaritans and politics.

Guess not much happened overnight.

Day/Night 8 has begun, votes and actions are due at 1 PM EST on Thursday, 3/13.

jeheinz72
03-12-2008, 12:21 PM
This deadline messes me up. 10AM is busy time.

Not to worry, this game will be the last time I run a game at this deadline. I thought it'd be great for me, but it really hasn't been. Next time will be more like 4 PM EST, closer to the end of my work-day then right in the middle.

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 12:21 PM
I'm feeling good about being rid of Company - five down, no kill last night.

So - lets see if we can find Sylar. We've got a nice edge in terms of numbers on our side.

Neon_Chaos
03-12-2008, 12:21 PM
BTW, I put in a scan on Clap to check on his powers.

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 12:22 PM
Ditto on the deadline - it is lunchtime for me, but work hasn't been all that cooperative in terms of steady mid-day access to be around for deadlines.

Greyroofoo
03-12-2008, 12:31 PM
so is it possible schmidty is sylar? I've always been "concerned" with his abilities

Neon_Chaos
03-12-2008, 12:34 PM
My scan of Clap succeeded. Same result as TheJackal's. He grabbed a bite to eat and went to bed. No display of powers, nothing.

mauchow
03-12-2008, 12:37 PM
Well, considering nothing bad happened last night I doubt anybody found anything out.

vote schmidty

claphamsa
03-12-2008, 12:43 PM
My scan of Clap succeeded. Same result as TheJackal's. He grabbed a bite to eat and went to bed. No display of powers, nothing.


darn, I shoulda been sneaking into my daughters room.....

claphamsa
03-12-2008, 12:43 PM
So do we know Smity isnt sylar? sure seems likely now.....

vote smitty!

claphamsa
03-12-2008, 12:44 PM
After the shocking events of yesterday, people gather tepidly. After brief frustration centered at Mauboy's poor decision, the gang quickly piles upon DaddyTorgo. Without much resistance, he admits he works for the Company, and slices his own throat.

DaddyTorgo was Nathan Petrelli, working for the Company!



Night results coming next!

This is pretty incedible! wev been nocking them down like 4500K hookers!

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 12:44 PM
Sadly, seeing as how I'm Claire Bennet, there was nothing going on in my room either.

Neon_Chaos
03-12-2008, 12:45 PM
I'm out for the night. Let's do this right.

Hopefully we can get some discussion today into proving that everyone is saying the truth about who they are.

RendeR
03-12-2008, 12:48 PM
The jackal is a Hero


VOTE SCHMIDTY

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 12:53 PM
I'm not convinced voting Schmidty is the way to go on this vote.

RendeR
03-12-2008, 01:07 PM
so is it possible schmidty is sylar? I've always been "concerned" with his abilities

I'm not convinced voting Schmidty is the way to go on this vote.


Give us another target that doesn't at last appear as obvious a choice?

Schmidty has and keeps gaining multiple powers, he didn't vote which means Zero night actions.

noone was killed last night.


That certianly points to him being Sylar.

jeheinz72
03-12-2008, 01:28 PM
As you go about your day, contemplating who to get rid of next, you go grab some lunch. On the TV in the sports bar you see an urgent news flash on CNN. It seems the killer has struck again. An attractive young woman was found in a gas station bathroom, again with the top of her head cut off.

You recognize her as Mauboy1. Too bad, she was hot!

Mauboy1 has died, he was Elle Bishop, a Hero!


Elle Bishop

Power: You have the power to basically shoot electric current from your hands. For our purposes, think of it as you’re the Duke. You can alter the outcome of the lynch to your choosing once in the game.


Carry on with Day/Night 8!

RendeR
03-12-2008, 01:29 PM
This is pretty incedible! wev been nocking them down like 4500K hookers!


There is no hooker in the universe worth 4.5 million dollars.

RendeR
03-12-2008, 01:33 PM
As you go about your day, contemplating who to get rid of next, you go grab some lunch. On the TV in the sports bar you see an urgent news flash on CNN. It seems the killer has struck again. An attractive young woman was found in a gas station bathroom, again with the top of her head cut off.

You recognize her as Mauboy1. Too bad, she was hot!

Mauboy1 has died, he was Elle Bishop, a Hero!



Carry on with Day/Night 8!




WHAT THE FUCK????

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 01:58 PM
Up to this point Sylar has seemed to get kills on even-numbered nights. I think that is as likely an explanation as anything else on Sylar not getting a kill last night.

Remember, Schmidty is claiming a very public role. He declared it late, but it is hard for me to imagine a "Heroes" game that doesn't include Peter. He, even more than the cheerleader, was the focal point of Season 1 on the show (imo).

Mr. Wednesday
03-12-2008, 02:00 PM
And I would like to see someone account for MrW's actions at night. We don't know a thing about his powers so far, what kind of information he may have collected, etc.
My power is not a night power. My night action was to search for Ando, which I'm obviously no longer doing. I would expect any spying on me at night to be fairly boring.

claphamsa
03-12-2008, 02:04 PM
There is no hooker in the universe worth 4.5 million dollars.

yeah realized that too late. it was 4500 not 4500 K :) she was pretty darned hot, then again who wants to be govenor of NY.

Greyroofoo
03-12-2008, 02:08 PM
As you go about your day, contemplating who to get rid of next, you go grab some lunch. On the TV in the sports bar you see an urgent news flash on CNN. It seems the killer has struck again. An attractive young woman was found in a gas station bathroom, again with the top of her head cut off.

You recognize her as Mauboy1. Too bad, she was hot!

Mauboy1 has died, he was Elle Bishop, a Hero!



Carry on with Day/Night 8!

do we get any kind of explanation for the delay?

jeheinz72
03-12-2008, 02:29 PM
do we get any kind of explanation for the delay?

What delay? This wasn't a night kill, happened at lunchtime.

mauchow
03-12-2008, 02:51 PM
What the fuck. LOL

I can't wait to see what happened here.

GO HEROES!

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 02:59 PM
Hmm, I'm wondering if Sylar gets the one-time power when it has already been used? If not, I'm wondering why he would target Mauboy.

Fundamentally, Sylar needs to get down to four players. There are several players that are going to be tougher to night-kill (me, Path, Schmidty) so why waste the day-kill on someone that he could get at night?

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 03:05 PM
My power is not a night power. My night action was to search for Ando, which I'm obviously no longer doing. I would expect any spying on me at night to be fairly boring.

MrW, do you have any information that you can share on other players? I know you have been publishing your lists on "Not Sylar", but I think we are past the point where secrecy is the best policy. Obviously you know better than I do the risk/reward in publishing your powers, but you could potentially help build trust and provide information we can all interpret (instead of just you) by going public.

If not on Day 8, then at what point would you disclose info?

RendeR
03-12-2008, 03:41 PM
I am...displeased.

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 03:50 PM
Another note - Schmidty would not have needed to kill Mauboy to get his power, as he had already absorbed it the previous evening.

Obviously you can disregard this if you think he is bluffing, but take a look at all of his reveals of powers over the course of the game - do you really think that he was making up powers? Do you think Sylar is acquiring powers without killing?

I'm going to need one hell of an argument to vote for Schmidty today.

Add Jackal to the list cleared by the seer and we are continuing to tighten the vice on Sylar.

I think we have, at points in this game, worried about conversions but I've never seriously considered the idea that Sylar could convert someone. So we should be 100% able to trust our seer clears as not Sylar. If this is true, I think it is almost mathematically impossible for him to win.

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 03:50 PM
I am...displeased.


With Mau's death or something else?

DaddyTorgo
03-12-2008, 03:54 PM
GO TEAM!

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 03:55 PM
GO TEAM!

What team is that? Normally the last one out shuts off the lights :D

RendeR
03-12-2008, 04:25 PM
With Mau's death or something else?


With random day killing....bleh.

Mr. Wednesday
03-12-2008, 04:43 PM
The thing I need to weigh with announcing my power is whether the risk of Sylar taking it outweighs the importance of having it known. At this stage, I'm still sort of feeling like it does.

I don't have any special information about anyone. I knew that a couple of people weren't Ando (they're already dead, as I recall). I knew that SnDvls was Ando. He's already dead. Other than that, I'm just playing a vanilla game of WW.

Mr. Wednesday
03-12-2008, 04:44 PM
Dola, and I think I might want to revisit whether we can write off RendeR as Sylar too. Which night did someone observe him in the trance in his apartment?

path12
03-12-2008, 05:06 PM
With random day killing....bleh.

This from the guy who gave me three wishes and then killed me off. :mad: :p

path12
03-12-2008, 05:09 PM
The thing I need to weigh with announcing my power is whether the risk of Sylar taking it outweighs the importance of having it known. At this stage, I'm still sort of feeling like it does.

I don't have any special information about anyone. I knew that a couple of people weren't Ando (they're already dead, as I recall). I knew that SnDvls was Ando. He's already dead. Other than that, I'm just playing a vanilla game of WW.

I'm at a point where this doesn't wash for me anymore. If your power is such a danger for us, and there is no vouch whatsoever on you, then it makes sense for us to lynch you rather than risk your being killed at night. The only real candidates I don't know anything about are you and clap (and Neon to some extent).

VOTE MR WEDNESDAY

Schmidty
03-12-2008, 05:32 PM
Man, sorry for the lack of a vote yesterday.

I left work early last night because I had a seizure, fell and cranked my head on the floor. I have epilepsy but hadn't had one in ages. I didn't take my meds two days in a row, and boom.

I've been asleep since I got home last night at around 2am. I've still got a big headache, so I'm probably going to lay down again soon.

st.cronin
03-12-2008, 05:37 PM
I have epilepsy.

:rolleyes: That's a sorry excuse for missing a vote.

claphamsa
03-12-2008, 05:39 PM
I'm at a point where this doesn't wash for me anymore. If your power is such a danger for us, and there is no vouch whatsoever on you, then it makes sense for us to lynch you rather than risk your being killed at night. The only real candidates I don't know anything about are you and clap (and Neon to some extent).

VOTE MR WEDNESDAY

sadly there is nothign to kno about me!

RendeR
03-12-2008, 06:39 PM
This from the guy who gave me three wishes and then killed me off. :mad: :p


Dude, wishes are the most powerful things in the known universe "ULTIMATE COSMIC POWEEEEERRRRRRRR......iiiittty bity living space..."


You should have known better than to give me 3 word wishes ;)

RendeR
03-12-2008, 06:40 PM
UNVOTE SCHMIDTY

VOTE MR WEDNESDAY

Something just doesn't add up with you dude.

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 07:00 PM
Dola, and I think I might want to revisit whether we can write off RendeR as Sylar too. Which night did someone observe him in the trance in his apartment?

Thomkal observed him in a trance the night before he died, if I recall correctly.

Two thoughts on RendeR = Sylar.
1.) He was the last to reveal his role (point against)
2.) Do we really think Isaac, the seer, isn't in a werewolf game? (point for)

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 07:02 PM
Man, sorry for the lack of a vote yesterday.

I left work early last night because I had a seizure, fell and cranked my head on the floor. I have epilepsy but hadn't had one in ages. I didn't take my meds two days in a row, and boom.

I've been asleep since I got home last night at around 2am. I've still got a big headache, so I'm probably going to lay down again soon.

Hope you feel better, sorry to hear the above.

Please put a vote in now, even if it is just a placeholder. Ditto with your actions - assuming you are Peter and a good guy it is very bad for our team for you to not be able to use your 94 powers.

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 07:10 PM
OK, please help fill in the blanks in terms of player vouches:

1. Clap - Hoops vouches that he is Noah Bennet
2. Hoops - Clap vouches that he is Claire Bennet, RendeR scanned as good
3. Jackal - Neon vouches as inactive on night of kill (was that a Sylar kill? I think it was ...), RendeR scanned as good
4. Path12 - no vouches on ID, but Grey (hero) says he attacked him with his power and Path lived, supporting Adam Monroe claim
5. Grey - RendeR scanned as good, Path vouches for use of power
6. Schmidty - has anyone scanned him yet?
7. Neon - has anyone scanned him yet? Has demonstrated power by initiating chat with Jackal
8. Chief Rum - has demonstrated power by chatting with RendeR
9. MrW - unscanned
10. RendeR - viewed in trance by hero Thomkal

Ten players left, three of them scanned as good (not Sylar, not Company) by RendeR.

I think we've been pretty fortunate that the kills have been largely on people that were not 100% trusted.

claphamsa
03-12-2008, 07:45 PM
someone scanned me as good, or doing nothign, not sure what!

hoopsguy
03-12-2008, 07:54 PM
Clap, if you can find the post numbers that would be really helpful.

Normally I'm pretty good about trudging through these looking for that kind of stuff, but I'm getting pretty crushed at work lately ... even when I'm at home, sadly.