WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!!

[Lathum]

I would think gladhanding and orating should go on the mission, it also seems like this could be an important one.

[Abe Sargent]

All votes up through 1377 count for the vote.

[Danny]

Pass moved from me, to clap, to render at the end.

So he avoided the Jackal and potentially moved and put the nail in Render's coffin. I already had a good feeling about Render, but I feel even better now and will get the voting started now.

Vote Jackal

[Danny]

Then be industrious ;)

Dat be for da learnid foks

[Abe Sargent]

Leave the Trow talk behind in this game, I'll curse you here too.

[Abe Sargent]

;)

[Danny]

I will consider changing my vote as I look at more things and recheck what happened with the voting, but Pass was under no suspicion and I don't think he risks a wolf with his voting yesterday.

[Chief Rum]

That mission deadline, is that for Friday or Sunday?

[Danny]

Leave the Trow talk behind in this game, I'll curse you here too.

:D

[Abe Sargent]

That mission deadline, is that for Friday or Sunday?

Friday

[Danny]

Also

Go on mission

I will switch to working if that is where I am needed.

[EagleFan]

Why do I get nervous when "The Puppet Master" starts to get more active... ;)

(looks cautiously towards Danny)

[Danny]

Why do I get nervous when "The Puppet Master" starts to get more active... ;)

(looks cautiously towards Danny)

:devil:

[Lathum]

I want to know if someone is getting replaced before I vote.

[Poli]

Eags, just so you know, I protected you last night. You were the designated night kill.

[Poli]

Unfortunately, mah eyesight ain't what it used to be. Ah couldn't see who was there.

[Lathum]

hmm, assuming Poli is telling the truth why the hard on for EF?

[Danny]

Eags, just so you know, I protected you last night. You were the designated night kill.

Was this with your weapon? If this is true, can we assume both EF and Poli are good?

[Danny]

EF has been UTR this game, they probably are looking for people who be the seer.

[Poli]

I passed my weapon earlier in the day/last night.

I mentioned in the thread I passed it on to a hunter and that it wasn't Autumn.

My plan was to try and get the sympathizers to take a shot at Eaglefan, since he is a hunter (God, I hope he is at this point or I look dumb), and protect him.

I figured they'd be more interested in looking for the person that got the shotgun than for me.

[Poli]

By golly, this is the best play I've ever had as a bodyguard.

[Chief Rum]

I passed my weapon earlier in the day/last night.

I mentioned in the thread I passed it on to a hunter and that it wasn't Autumn.

My plan was to try and get the sympathizers to take a shot at Eaglefan, since he is a hunter (God, I hope he is at this point or I look dumb), and protect him.

I figured they'd be more interested in looking for the person that got the shotgun than for me.

So you're the BG, and you didn't need the gun to protect him, right?

BTW, did you pass the gun to Pass? Pretty sure he had a pistol, not a shotgun, but I figured to get that question out of the way, since you know it's coming.

[Poli]

We get rid of that no good sympathizing Pass AND then I trick 'em into going after someone I protected.

[kevin spacey]
I rule.
[/Kevin Spacey]

http://www.filmfodder.com/movies/reviews/american_beauty/images/american_beauty.jpg

[Chief Rum]

By golly, this is the best play I've ever had as a bodyguard.

I would have to say, outside of the phenomenal failure of our camp work attempt, yesterday was pretty damn successful. Way to go, Poli.

I am guessing by your eyesight comment that you don't have a clue who it was, right?

I guess we have an explanation on why no night kill. Maybe EF will have seen something.

[Poli]

So you're the BG, and you didn't need the gun to protect him, right?

BTW, did you pass the gun to Pass? Pretty sure he had a pistol, not a shotgun, but I figured to get that question out of the way, since you know it's coming.
Nope, it wasn't to Pass. Thankfully!

As for needing a gun, I imagine it would have been handy to have...but I scared them off with mah presence. Yeah, they're scared of me. ;)

[Poli]

I would have to say, outside of the phenomenal failure of our camp work attempt, yesterday was pretty damn successful. Way to go, Poli.

I am guessing by your eyesight comment that you don't have a clue who it was, right?

I guess we have an explanation on why no night kill. Maybe EF will have seen something.
Correctomundo.

[Chief Rum]

Well, I'll put in for Patrolling now, since that's my specialty. We don't have as much of a need for workers today (20 units), so hopefully with some "x3" workers, we can get both coverage and get a decent sized group to go on a mission.

The camps are critical, though. We have just one in three days, and we need eight. And there is a point at which the Symps will win, in terms of camps missed, per the rules. I would rather not push it, if possible.

[Chief Rum]

Oh, yeah...

WORK ON PATROLLING

[Chief Rum]

Correctomundo.

Great play, Poli. Fantastic.

Maybe once we get this union rolling, we can get some health insurance coverage and get you some spectacles. ;)

[Danny]

Nice job Poli

[dubb93]

Alright, being a gladhandler does the village think I should go on the mission? We need alot of hours to convert this camp, however do we think Few might be able to reduce that number?

[dubb93]

Danny I don't think you should do on the mission, I agree with Poli the better speakers would probably be best for the job rather than food distributors.

[dubb93]

Er...not Poli, Lathum

[Danny]

I guess, but why win them over with words when you can use a nice steak dinner?

Undo Mission
Work on Hunting

[Poli]

I think I won't be good at either, but I'll give one a go for now. I'll switch out if needed.

GO PATROLLING

[Barkeep49]

Work on Hunting

[DaddyTorgo]

as a orator do people think i should go on the mission then?

oh yeah, and hella nice play poli!!

[jeheinz72]

Hey, what's up man how's it going? ;)

Hahah, that's clutch right there Henry, er I mean Norm. Hahahaahahah.

[jeheinz72]

Well, a couple good things and a couple bad from when I last logged on it seems.

I'd agree that the mission seems geared for gladhanders and organizers. I'm a gladhander and will go if not needed as fill for the camp work.

I can't see a scenario where I'm not voting Schmidty, Danny or Jackal today.

[jeheinz72]

Well, a couple good things and a couple bad from when I last logged on it seems.

I'd agree that the mission seems geared for gladhanders and organizers. I'm a gladhander and will go if not needed as fill for the camp work.

I can't see a scenario where I'm not voting Schmidty, Danny or Jackal today.

That should be orators, I think. Do we have those? I have to admit I haven't really paid much attention to *what* the other roles are since people have had it covered.

[jeheinz72]

Oh, and GOOD JOB BARKEEP.

[DaddyTorgo]

and poli too heinzy

ps - i hear there's swine-flu in Campbell (one of my best friends teaches there) - be careful

[DaddyTorgo]

FYI - Abe I think it's only right that you at least tell us if it's Schmidty you are looking for a replacement for or not before votes start pouring in.

Because that will have a huge impact on where a lot of people choose to vote I have to think.

[jeheinz72]

and poli too heinzy

ps - i hear there's swine-flu in Campbell (one of my best friends teaches there) - be careful

Oh yeah, Poli too. Good call!

Yeah, Branham High School which is about 4 miles from my house. GOOD TIMES. I'm so over this swine flu crap. Not only this local thing but I'm supposed to go to mexico later this month for a wedding. Blargh.

[TheNorm]

So he avoided the Jackal and potentially moved and put the nail in Render's coffin. I already had a good feeling about Render, but I feel even better now and will get the voting started now.

Vote Jackal

I was leaning toward Schmidty but I'm buying this, for sure.

Vote Jackal

[claphamsa]

dont worry about media histeria

[DaddyTorgo]

Oh yeah, Poli too. Good call!

Yeah, Branham High School which is about 4 miles from my house. GOOD TIMES. I'm so over this swine flu crap. Not only this local thing but I'm supposed to go to mexico later this month for a wedding. Blargh.

Well at least it's at Branham and not the one where my friend teaches (idk the name - starts with W)

[jeheinz72]

Well at least it's at Branham and not the one where my friend teaches (idk the name - starts with W)

Westmont. Yeah, we used to live over there.

[USFLTecmo]

WORK ON PATROLLING

Ditto on the "tell us who you're looking to replace."

[Abe Sargent]

After consideration, I've decided not right now. What if don't get a replacement? Then you have meta info about a person that could impact then game play but with out of game info. I'm not sure i like that after thinking about it.

[DaddyTorgo]

but if you don't then we don't know whether schmidty missed votes b/c he's a wolf or b/c he has legitimate personal issues

[EagleFan]

Interesting evening. FTR I didn't get any indication of what happened so I unfortunately can't confirm or deny. I will take Poli at his word at this point as I see no reason to doubt at the moment.

I am surprised they didn't go after Poli. I couldn't have been the only one to pick up on him outing himself in his rant earlier.

For the question on Pass, didn't his description basically say that he had a gun, he was a gun thug afterall. I think it would be hard to keep that rep up without an actual gun.

After last game I would have thought to have been the last person he would have protected. :)

There is one thing that is making me a little curious. I am not a hunter. I am food distribution. I think hunting is a different skill all together.

I am not sure why the sympathizers would have went after me based on Poli's logic. Why would they chose to go after someone that may have been given a gun? I would think that they would have gone after either the hunter that was specifically pointed out as not getting it, or someone entirely different (which is the category that I would fall in since I am not a hunter).

I still believe Poli as I would think that a sympathizer would have a much tighter story to use if they were fake revealing. I think things were just blind luck, but in WW blind luck is good. :)

I think I am going to have to take some time this weekend and create some better notes than I have. I need to start pouring over Pass' posts to see how he reacted to some things (like my PB theory).

[EagleFan]

Going to wait until closer to the deadline to see where my work time will be needed. It looks like an important mission though so we should probably not go for overkill on the camp if possible (enough to win it but not too much that we don't have enough to win the mission, which is the unknown here).

My guess is that we are going to have sympathizers faking on the mission today.

[Passacaglia]

Sorry guys, I'm irreplacable.

[Abe Sargent]

John Nugent, former president of District 17 went to work for the mines in 1907 as a strike buster and was employed as the State of WV State Commissioner of Immigration but was paid no salary by the state, instead being paid by the mines. He used his power to bring in scabs and fight strikes.

[Poli]

Eags, I could have swore I read somewhere that you were a hunter.

[The Jackal]

So he avoided the Jackal and potentially moved and put the nail in Render's coffin. I already had a good feeling about Render, but I feel even better now and will get the voting started now.

Vote Jackal

Nail in RendeR's coffin? At no point during the last bit of voting was RendeR in the lead. I was going to be lynched whether or not Pass voted RendeR. Have you considered even for a moment that -neither- of us are wolves?

[The Jackal]

So, do you guys want me on the mission or not? I'll let there be some outside input since there's people with goddamn irrational hardons for me.

[The Jackal]

I'm too happy to be upset, my Hulk jersey just arrived. Yuss.

[The Jackal]

Furthermore, I don't like someone who didn't get an action in being less suspicious than me. There's no rush to vote so I'll hold off to see what happens on the mission, but common.

[EagleFan]

Eags, I could have swore I read somewhere that you were a hunter.

Nope. Not wanting to take away from what you did but I guess it was just a really great coincidence.

Wear better glasses the next time you protect someone, maybe you'll get a good look at the attacker then... ;)

[EagleFan]

Furthermore, I don't like someone who didn't get an action in being less suspicious than me. There's no rush to vote so I'll hold off to see what happens on the mission, but common.

Danny's lack of action doesn't really make him any more or less supicious. His participation would not have mattered as it was Schmidty's that cost us.

I think with Schmidty it was just a matter of real life getting in the way. With that said it would have been nice if he could have used a place holder early in the day when I believe he was on briefly, especially since his skill was one of the tasks.

It just seems WAY too obvious for a wolf to just not show up and cost us the camp. Maybe I give a little too much slack to someone having RL get in the way of the game as it is just a game.

[The Jackal]

Well, if missing a work order doesn't pass as suspicious, I don't know what to say. There's pretty much 0 evidence lined up against me aside from a couple of people's vibes, the only reason render and I were in the showdown is because we're searchers, so I'm just trying to present a modicum of an argument here.

[The Jackal]

I'm assuming Schmidty has been removed from the game.. I don't really know how that situation has fleshed out as I sort've skimmed posts, but I'm really just trying to figure out why Danny's right on top of me.

[The Jackal]

Ever since I said that he's been acting a little off this game he's been all over me like white on rice. Man, I haven't used that saying in a long time.

[EagleFan]

As of 1564:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), BK (1536) (2/10)
Patrol - CR (1528), Poli (1535), USFLTecmo (1549) (3/10)
Mission - (0/?)

Voting:
Jackal 2 - Danny (1503), TheNorm (1545)


I don't have the time to look up the multipliers so if someone know them and can fill in the correct work units that would be great. I am about to head into a meeting which will bring me up to around 2:30 so I will check in before the mission to see if I am needed for mission or work.

[EagleFan]

Just to get some discussion going...

vote Danny

[The Jackal]

I think CR and USFL are x3 patrollers, and the only hunter we have left is norm unless I'm mistaken?

On a separate note - why are you voting for me, Norm? You realize the post you quoted when you voted is incorrect since Pass' vote really didn't matter? I don't see how him casting a mostly unimportant vote makes me likelier to be a wolf.

[The Jackal]

well thank you EF, at least there will be some discussion

[Lathum]

do we have any kind of comprehensive vote count from yesterday?

[Barkeep49]

I don't get the Danny thing. He had a different approach to Day 2 than I did, in that he wanted to go all-in on the mission. Is that the suspicion against him? Or is it really that he's just been a very effective wolf lately and is getting some residual suspicion from that?

[The Jackal]

I don't get the Danny thing. He had a different approach to Day 2 than I did, in that he wanted to go all-in on the mission. Is that the suspicion against him? Or is it really that he's just been a very effective wolf lately and is getting some residual suspicion from that?

I try not to consider what people have been in recent games because it can really skew how you view them, so that hasn't been in my mind. His plan for everyone to go on the mission pinged me, but we've gotten through that. And then he missed the work order, which conveniently wouldn't have mattered.. but I don't think that should clear someone.

And then there's just my suspicion of him personally because of the vibe he's supposedly drawing off me, but that's not really something that can be shared with others.

I don't know if Danny is the right way to go, but he's not giving me much choice.

[The Jackal]

Right now I'm assuming I should stay and help with the camps. If we need searchers on the mission I'm sure people would rather Poli or possibly RendeR go, but if you want me to help on the mission let me know.

[The Jackal]

I've got some errands to run and there's certainly no rush on the voting, I'll check back in later.

[Poli]

I don't get the Danny thing. He had a different approach to Day 2 than I did, in that he wanted to go all-in on the mission. Is that the suspicion against him? Or is it really that he's just been a very effective wolf lately and is getting some residual suspicion from that?
I don't like how he missed the work, to be honest.

[Chief Rum]

I think CR and USFL are x3 patrollers...

This is correct.

[RendeR]

I'm a searcher, so I have only 1 work unit to offer for the camps. LEt me know if you think I should work or go on the mission?

Work would be more important, especially if we have only 1 hunter with multiple points in the skill.

[RendeR]

Just to add: I will not be available after 3-ish today, I'll stick around to see the mission write up then I'm out till late tonight.

[claphamsa]

What should I do?

[Lathum]

hmm, awfully quiet, I am going to not go on the mission. I would like to find some time this weekend to organize some vote anlaysis if possible before I vote anyone.

[EagleFan]

As of 1580:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), Barkeep49 (1536) (2/10)
Patrol - Chief Rum x3 (1528), Poli (1535), USFLTecmo x3 (1549) (7/10)
Mission - (0/?)

Voting:
Jackal 2 - Danny (1503), TheNorm (1545)
Danny 1 - EagleFan (1567)

[Barkeep49]

As of 1580:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), BK (1536) (2/10)
Patrol - CRx3 (1528), Poli (1535), USFLTecmox3 (1549) (7/10)
Mission - (0/?)

Voting:
Jackal 2 - Danny (1503), TheNorm (1545)
Danny 1 - Jackal (1567)

[EagleFan]

To clarify. I don't exactly suspect Danny. The vote was pretty much for missing the work order and he was around much more than Schmidty so he should have less of an excuse.

I also didn't want to see a runaway on Jackal. I don't see the suuspicion on him yet but a runaway vote does us no good at all if he turns up good.

[claphamsa]

hunt

[EagleFan]

lol, beat you to it BK... :)

[EagleFan]

I don't like that we have nothing going on for the mission and it's due in just over an hour. This looks like an important mission.

[EagleFan]

Who is oratory? They should probably go on the mission.

[claphamsa]

unhunt
go on mission

:) maybe I can gladhand him :)

[EagleFan]

The next part of my meeting is going to start in a couple minutes. I will put this action in but would rather go on the hunting mission to help convert the camp. I doubt my skills will help on the mission much, unless we want to dstribute food to this guy.

go on mission

[EagleFan]

We have 17 left?

We need 10 and 10 for the camp.

Right now we have 2/10 and 7/10 involving 5 people. If I read correctly we have a potential x3 for one of them left which means we need 9 more people minimum on the camp. That means we can afford 3 people on the mission which should probably be all oratory.

[Barkeep49]

Today's Mission

Dan Chain, aka Few Clothes, became a legend who rose from the West Virginia Coal Mine War of 1912-1913. This giant Black man had been a soldier in the Spanish-American War and had moved to West Virgina and coal mining. He would unionize and battle with the law on numerous occasions, through courts and the jail system.

Few Clothes was one of the major folk heroes to come out of the Mine Wars. You get a chance to recruit him, and who knows what he could bring to the table.

Your mission, due at 3 pm Friday EST, is to Recruit Dan Chain aka Few Clothes
Looking this over, I'll suggest that perhaps oratory isn't our best bet as much as race. Now Abe has strongly cautioned against revealing race, but I'll just throw that idea out there.

[jeheinz72]

I'm not Black and I'm not oratory, so I'm going to work at camp

[jeheinz72]

Work on Hunting

[jeheinz72]

Did we ever get an actual vote count from yesterday?

[DaddyTorgo]

i like BK's thought

[DaddyTorgo]

but i'm oratory and happy to go on the mission too if we want

[Poli]

The next part of my meeting is going to start in a couple minutes. I will put this action in but would rather go on the hunting mission to help convert the camp. I doubt my skills will help on the mission much, unless we want to dstribute food to this guy.

go on mission
I can do the mission if desired. I just need a go ahead from a few people. I certainly don't want what happened before.

[Poli]

Nevermind, I'm a white guy. Don't want to screw that up.

[ntndeacon]

looks like we need hunting, so

work on hunting

[EagleFan]

Looking this over, I'll suggest that perhaps oratory isn't our best bet as much as race. Now Abe has strongly cautioned against revealing race, but I'll just throw that idea out there.

I don't really see anything there mentioning that race would be an issue. Just because he is black doesn't mean that race is an issue, but that is just my take.

[EagleFan]

As of 1600:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), Barkeep49 (1536), jeheinz72 (1593), ntndeacon (1599) (4/10)
Patrol - Chief Rum x3 (1528), Poli (1535), USFLTecmo x3 (1549) (7/10)
Mission - claphamsa (1588), EagleFan (1589) (2/?)

Voting:
Jackal 2 - Danny (1503), TheNorm (1545)
Danny 1 - EagleFan (1567)

[EagleFan]

I can do the mission if desired. I just need a go ahead from a few people. I certainly don't want what happened before.

I don't think there would be a backlash as long as we get the numbers on the camp tasks. I will switch with you if you want.

[DaddyTorgo]

do we need more on the mission? i don't have any hunting talent...

[EagleFan]

lol, I keep seeing Autumn and thinking we are about to have hunting covered. Damn you Pass!!!

On that note. Is it possible that the sympathisers have a heads up on the tasks for the next day?

Path's skill was needed the day after he was killed. Autumn's was needed the day after he was brutaled.

Just thinking out loud again.

[Poli]

I don't think there would be a backlash as long as we get the numbers on the camp tasks. I will switch with you if you want.
Whatever works.

[EagleFan]

do we need more on the mission? i don't have any hunting talent...

By my calculation we can only spare 3 people for the mission, unless there are some people with multipliers that I don't know about.

[DaddyTorgo]

well unless someone steps up right now i'm going on the mission in 2 minutes

[DaddyTorgo]

GO ON MISSION

[Poli]

Who's going on the mission thus far?

[EagleFan]

Torn between going on the mission and switching to camp.

[DaddyTorgo]

me + ef + clappy

[DaddyTorgo]

ef - do you think you'll be useful on the mission? i'm just an orator...

[EagleFan]

Who's going on the mission thus far?

Me, clap and DT.

I'll swtich with you if you want Poli.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm happy to switch off the mission...gotta do it NOW though

[Poli]

Your call, EF.

[EagleFan]

unvote mission

There has got to be a better choice than me. Go for it Poli.

[Poli]

I'm concerned race may be a factor, Abe's non-mention withstanding.

[EagleFan]

DT, stay on the mission. I'll let Poli take my spot.

[DaddyTorgo]

*goes on a mission with Poli*

[Poli]

DON'T GO PATROLLING

GO TALK THE BIG MAN INTO JOINING US
(MISSION)

[DaddyTorgo]

yeah - maybe one orator and hopefully one or two black folks and we can talk him into it

[EagleFan]

I'm concerned race may be a factor, Abe's non-mention withstanding.

It's a wash between us there I believe. I have the same problem if there is a factor in race.

[DaddyTorgo]

phew - excellent last-minute switching there folks.

WT (even if we don't succeed) that we coordinated that!

and on that note - it's about coffee-break time for me...

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe claphamsa helps. who knows.

[Poli]

Maybe my searching will help out somehow. ;)

[The Jackal]

Might as well get an order in:

WORK HUNTING

[Poli]

Maybe it screws up the sympathizers as well. I can only hope.

[EagleFan]

Maybe my searching will help out somehow. ;)

It'll make it easier for you to spot the very large man. Not that it helped you spot the attacker though. :)

[jeheinz72]

Vote Danny

Some fishy play, especially not working at all (personally I'm not giving him a break because it did or didn't matter, it certainly wasn't a villager beneficial action).

[Poli]

True. Abe really screwed with my guy. At least I'm not posting in pink.

[Abe Sargent]

I will be running the mission in a bit.

[Abe Sargent]

"I been called nigger plenty of times, I can't help that's how white folks sees me. But I ain't never been called no scab!"

You hear the echo of Dan Chain's word as you approach. The trio of you try to entice Few Clothes to join the UMW.

Although happy to see fellow brothers in the war against the companies, he sees no reason to join your little troop. He is doing just fine on his own, thank you very much.

The mission to gain Dan Chain aka Few Clothes fails.

[Poli]

GAH

[DaddyTorgo]

dorf

[claphamsa]

boo

[DaddyTorgo]

sack...of...poop

[The Jackal]

we don't even know if it was a numbers problem or a role problem, do we

[EagleFan]

Damn. I guess there was no way for today to be a win/win based on the numbers. Now we have to worry about it being a lose/lose if there is a fake done.

[Poli]

Sounds like a numbers thing. "Little group" didn't he say?

[EagleFan]

we don't even know if it was a numbers problem or a role problem, do we

Nope, but based on the "little group" comment I am guessing numbers.

[Poli]

Off to work out/run. Back in about an hour.

[Abe Sargent]

The Kanawha county Sheriff pulls up on a few horses and many deputies dismount. They begin to surround USFLTecmo.

Before you protest, the Sheriff shows an arrest warrant for USFL Tecmo for sodomy. He is led away and incarcerated.

[The Jackal]

Sounds like a numbers thing. "Little group" didn't he say?

Good call, I zoned out over that. So most likely a numbers issue.. but we really couldn't spare anymore

[EagleFan]

sob!!! Now it is a lose/lose unless we can figure out a miracle.

[The Jackal]

sodomy? shit..

[jeheinz72]

Is it me or is this game seemingly very friggin hard.

[The Jackal]

what do our camp numbers look like now?

[The Jackal]

Is it me or is this game seemingly very friggin hard.

i don't think it's just you.. hopefully someone has something up their sleeve

[EagleFan]

How many people got shotguns the other day? Is there a chance they will help the numbers game out in the work force. The work required does fall into what I believe I saw someone (Poli I believe) post that they can help with.

[claphamsa]

sodomy? USFL Tecmo.... yeah, thats probably legit :D

[dubb93]

Vote NtNDeacon

He has managed his share of a whole 10 posts out of the 1650 so far in this thread. Crazy UTR this one.

[Lathum]

Vote NtNDeacon

He has managed his share of a whole 10 posts out of the 1650 so far in this thread. Crazy UTR this one.

not at all OOC for him

[Lathum]

OK, seriously, WTF. The lack of information on procedure is really irritating me.

[Lathum]

this is like doing a jigsaw puzzle blindfolded.

This is why I didn't want to do a mass reveal FWIW, the sympathizers can totally screw with us since they know everything.

Is it even possible to win the camp now?

[Barkeep49]

this is like doing a jigsaw puzzle blindfolded.

This is why I didn't want to do a mass reveal FWIW, the sympathizers can totally screw with us since they know everything.

Is it even possible to win the camp now?
So the solution to lack of information is even less information?

[Lathum]

So the solution to lack of information is even less information?

considering the sympatizers have owned us the last 2 days I think we were a little to cavalier giving out info.

[DaddyTorgo]

in a game like this where you have group tasks it's impossible without giving out info though - otherwise no one individual would have any idea how much work was needed in any given place so we'd end up overworking very easily

very frigging frustrating though

[Barkeep49]

considering the sympatizers have owned us the last 2 days I think we were a little to cavalier giving out info.
Considering the sympathizers have won the last two days I'm really thankful we have so much info out there since I don't know how we'd have come close otherwise.

[TheNorm]

Work on Hunting

With a gun it's x2, but since I don't have one, just one unit.

[Chief Rum]

we don't even know if it was a numbers problem or a role problem, do we

Might have been a race problem.

[Chief Rum]

The Kanawha county Sheriff pulls up on a few horses and many deputies dismount. They begin to surround USFLTecmo.

Before you protest, the Sheriff shows an arrest warrant for USFL Tecmo for sodomy. He is led away and incarcerated.

Grrr...

[EagleFan]

Work on Hunting

With a gun it's x2, but since I don't have one, just one unit.

If this is the case we may want to consider letting the cat out of the bag with this information. Maybe we can still work this out if enough people picked up a shotgun.

We may be avoiding a night kill at least. I would think that arresting someone may prevent them from doing a night kill as I don't think they didi one after they arrested me.

Then again, if some of us have shotguns can we storm the jail to get USFL out?

[The Jackal]

I think Abe made it clear that even though we know this is probably another fake warrant, it wouldn't fit into the storyline of the game for us to break a convicted sodomizer out of prison by force..

[The Jackal]

And I'll re-iterate that my weapon isn't a gun, otherwise I'd consider giving it to Norm.

[Danny]

Vote Danny

Some fishy play, especially not working at all (personally I'm not giving him a break because it did or didn't matter, it certainly wasn't a villager beneficial action).

I'm sort of catching up now.

If I was a wolf there is no way I miss putting in my work. Still, I screwed up, so if you want to vote for me for that so be it.

[Danny]

I think CR and USFL are x3 patrollers, and the only hunter we have left is norm unless I'm mistaken?

On a separate note - why are you voting for me, Norm? You realize the post you quoted when you voted is incorrect since Pass' vote really didn't matter? I don't see how him casting a mostly unimportant vote makes me likelier to be a wolf.

He voted for three different people, all of which were not you. I had the timing off like I said, but he still tried to avoid voting you.

[Danny]

To clarify. I don't exactly suspect Danny. The vote was pretty much for missing the work order and he was around much more than Schmidty so he should have less of an excuse.

I also didn't want to see a runaway on Jackal. I don't see the suuspicion on him yet but a runaway vote does us no good at all if he turns up good.

I support this, a runaway vote does not do us any good and I have no role and haven't exactly been as active as I normally am, so if it has to be me that's ok.

And yeah I don't have a good excuse for missing my work yesterday other than being in a hurry and having a brain fart.

[Danny]

Damn. I guess there was no way for today to be a win/win based on the numbers. Now we have to worry about it being a lose/lose if there is a fake done.

I think our strategy of trying to win both every day is not working and is why I advocated against that from the start. We need to commit more to accomplishing one or the other from now on.

[Poli]

Vote NtNDeacon

He has managed his share of a whole 10 posts out of the 1650 so far in this thread. Crazy UTR this one.
Dubb, I think you're a better player than that.

[Abe Sargent]

During the War of 1912-1913, In Paint Creek, Baldwin-Felts detectives set up an armed camp at Mucklow, including machine guns.

[Danny]

During the War of 1912-1913, In Paint Creek, Baldwin-Felts detectives set up an armed camp at Mucklow, including machine guns.

Where is my machine gun then?

[EagleFan]

I think our strategy of trying to win both every day is not working and is why I advocated against that from the start. We need to commit more to accomplishing one or the other from now on.

I would love to also win both each day. The problem is with days which require such a large amount of work to be done that we can't commit enough resources to the mission and then leave no wiggle room for the camps.

My statement wasn't meant to say that we shouldn't try to win both. I was just frustrated since I was relatively active in trying to get the numbers to work out as best possible but now I feel that cost us the mission and the camp.

[EagleFan]

I think Abe made it clear that even though we know this is probably another fake warrant, it wouldn't fit into the storyline of the game for us to break a convicted sodomizer out of prison by force..

I know. I was just kidding around by the "break him out" comment because someone brought the idea up for breaking me out when I was arrested.

[Danny]

I would love to also win both each day. The problem is with days which require such a large amount of work to be done that we can't commit enough resources to the mission and then leave no wiggle room for the camps.

My statement wasn't meant to say that we shouldn't try to win both. I was just frustrated since I was relatively active in trying to get the numbers to work out as best possible but now I feel that cost us the mission and the camp.

It's tough because we don't what the wolves can do or really any idea of how to do anything for that matter.

At this point I am guessing arresting someone comes in place of a night action for the wolves, but we'll see with a night kill or not.

[Poli]

VOTE Dubb93

His vote on ntn just doesn't sit right with me. It is a flexible vote, however. I'm interested in reviewing the interaction between Jackal and Pass, if any.

[Danny]

VOTE Dubb93

His vote on ntn just doesn't sit right with me. It is a flexible vote, however. I'm interested in reviewing the interaction between Jackal and Pass, if any.

His vote seemed off to me, if I decided to move off of Jackal, it would probably be to him (only other candidate so far is me though :p )

[Danny]

Im going through some stuff with Pass/Jackal. This is where the vote stood an hour and half before deadline

render 3 (lathum 1134, autumn 1190, Jackal 1205)
Jackal 3 (Danny 1172, Poli 1202, heinz 1216)
PB 1 (EF 914)
Pass 1 (clap 1116)
clap 1 (Pass 1154)
BK 1 (dubb 1250)
Autumn 1 (CR 1255)

[Danny]

At that point Pass kept his vote on Jackyl until BK and Dubb both voted Jackal to make it a 5-3 vote. About 10 minutes before deadline Pass unvoted Clap and switched to the Jackal to make it 5-4 then another vote for Jackal came and then the whole schmidty thing.

From this I actually am not as strong on Jackal as I was. When Pass switched to Jackal it was likely too late to save him and he may have simply not wanted to be the lynch on a known villager by going Jackal as well. He also didn't support the Schmidty thing once it looked like Jackal was going to be the lynch.

Unvote Jackal

[Danny]

At that point Pass kept his vote on Jackyl until BK and Dubb both voted Jackal


That should say kept his vote on Clap

[Danny]

At that point Pass kept his vote on Clap until BK and Dubb both voted Jackal to make it a 5-3 vote. About 10 minutes before deadline Pass unvoted Clap and switched to Render to make it 5-4 then another vote for Jackal came to make it 6-4 and then the whole schmidty thing.
[/B]

Reposted since I made a few name errors.

[jeheinz72]

Dubb, I think you're a better player than that.

I don't.

[jeheinz72]

Unvote Danny
Vote TheNorm

Reasoning to follow

[jeheinz72]

A) Was fishy on him first two days.

B) Didn't like the somewhat quick 2nd vote he put on Jackal today

C) Don't like the bait he cast about the gun earlier. Either it's a poor villager play to reveal that or it's a wolf trying to see who else might have such a bonus for future targeting.

[Danny]

Just realized we have until Sunday

[dubb93]

I don't.

Oh wait...yea that's right, I don't give a shit what you think.

[Poli]

Dear Danny,

We have until Sunday.

Your Friend,

Poli

[Abe Sargent]

Schmidty has been replaced by Glengoyne. Everybody welcome him with love and coal and bullets.

[Danny]

Dear Danny,

We have until Sunday.

Your Friend,

Poli

I was thirsty for sympathizer blood.

[Danny]

Welcome Glen!

[Abe Sargent]

Glengoyne has not played in a while, so make him feel extra special and loved. Perhaps you can rekindle the spark of WW love in him?

[The Jackal]

Welcome aboard glen.. first matter of business - get your orders in on time!

[Lathum]

hey Glen

Heinzey, I am also suspect of the way TheNorm is playing. His reactions are similar to last game when he was a wolf.

[Glengoyne]

Welcome aboard glen.. first matter of business - get your orders in on time!

Damn that sounds like work. Oh this is all about mines and labor. I'll be reading up tonight...1700 posts. OMG this IS work.

[Poli]

Let me sum it up for you.

Trust in Poli, Barkeep, and Eaglefan.

You're welcome! :)

[PurdueBrad]

Just caught up, sorry I wasn't around to do the mission but from the sound of it, I wouldn't have been a big help anyway.

Let me get placeholders in in case I don't make deadline.

[PurdueBrad]

I think this is right given what happened to USFL

work patrolling

[EagleFan]

Damn that sounds like work. Oh this is all about mines and labor. I'll be reading up tonight...1700 posts. OMG this IS work.

Welcome. God luck catching up too. Damn, I just added one more post for you to sift through... ;)

[PurdueBrad]

Just saw the deadline isn't tonight. I'll leave my work where it is and see where conversation goes.

[PurdueBrad]

If you guys need me to move to a different labor group, let me know.

[RendeR]

I'll keep my work unit available for now. When we get things sorted out I'll put it on something necessary then.

[EagleFan]

As of 1700:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), Barkeep49 (1536), jeheinz72 (1593), ntndeacon (1599), The Jackal (1626), TheNorm (1651) (6/10)
Patrol - Chief Rum x3 (1528), PurdueBrad (1696) (4/10)
Mission - claphamsa (1588), DaddyTorgo (1608), Poli (1620) (3/?) - locked (1632)
Jail - USFLTecmo (1642)

Voting:
Jackal 1 - TheNorm (1545)
Danny 1 - EagleFan (1567)
ntndeacon 1 - dubb93 (1651)
dubb93 1 - Poli (1675)
TheNorm 1 - jeheinz72 (1682)

[Lathum]

yesterdays final vote count

Pass-1- Clap (1116)
Render-4- Lathum (1134), Autumn (1190), Pass (1331),The Jackal (1377)
Jackal-6-Danny (1166), Poli (1202), Heinze (1216), BK (1312), PB (1334), Render (1354)
Autumn-1- CR (1255)
Schmidty-2-USFL (1358), Dubb (1361),
No Lynch-1-TheNorm (1370)
PB- 1- Ef (1373)

[Lathum]

vote sequence

914 EF Votes PB
986 Pass votes Poli
989 Pass unvotes Poli
991 Pass votes Poli
998 Poli votes Pass
1063 Heinze votes Autumn
1116 Clap votes Pass
1134 Lathum votes Render
1149 Poli unvotes pass
1154 Pass unvotes Poli
1154 Pass votes Clap
1166 Danny votes Jackal
1190 Autumn votes Render
1202 Poli votes the Jackal
1205 The Jackal votes Render
1209 Dubb votes Render
1216 Heinze unvotes Autumn
1216 Heinze votes Jackal
1250 Dubb unvotes render
1250 Dubb votes BK
1255 CR votes Autumn
1300 Dubb unvotes BK
1304 Dubb votes Jackal
1312 BK votes Jackal
1331 Pass unvotes Clap
1331 Pass votes Render
1334 PB votes Jackal
1340 EF unvotes PB
1340 EF votes Jackal
1341 Dubb unvotes JAckal
1341 Dubb votes Render
1354 Render votes Jackal
1358 USFL votes Schmidty
1361 Dubb unvotes render
1361 Dubb votes Schmidty
1370 TheNorm votes no lynch
1372 The Jackal unvotes Render
1372 The Jackal votes Schmidty
1372- EF unvotes Jackal
1372- EF votes PB
1377 The Jackal unvotes Schmidty
1377 The JAckal votes Render

[EagleFan]

dola:

As of 1701:

No work orders: Lathum, ntndeacon, EagleFan, Glengoyne, RendeR

No vote: Lathum, claphamsa, ntndeacon, Glengoyne, Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo. Danny, PurdueBrad, The Jackal, RendeR, Barkeep49

[Lathum]

A few things that struck me

Dubb was all over the place

Pass cast a pretty late vote on Render, that elevates Render a bit.

EF's late vote on PB was odd

TheNorm abstaining from voting in such a close race struck me as odd

Clap's second vote on Pass elevates him a bit

CR seemingly buried his vote on Autumn

USFL's vote on Schmidty came to late to probably matter and could be a great way to bury a vote, would the wolves be bold enough to ship one of their own to prison today?

I think we learn a lot if we lynch Jackal today, we have 2 trusted people who voted him. If he comes up villager it is possible a sympathizer was on him.

[EagleFan]

go on hunting mission

[EagleFan]

As of 1706:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), Barkeep49 (1536), jeheinz72 (1593), ntndeacon (1599), The Jackal (1626), TheNorm (1651) (6/10)
Patrol - Chief Rum x3 (1528), PurdueBrad (1696), EagleFan (1706) (5/10)
Mission - claphamsa (1588), DaddyTorgo (1608), Poli (1620) (3/?) - locked (1632)
Jail - USFLTecmo (1642)

Voting:
Jackal 1 - TheNorm (1545)
Danny 1 - EagleFan (1567)
ntndeacon 1 - dubb93 (1651)
dubb93 1 - Poli (1675)
TheNorm 1 - jeheinz72 (1682)


No work orders: Lathum, ntndeacon, Glengoyne, RendeR

No vote: Lathum, claphamsa, ntndeacon, Glengoyne, Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo. Danny, PurdueBrad, The Jackal, RendeR, Barkeep49

[Lathum]

Vote The Jackal

[Lathum]

Work on Patrol

[Chief Rum]

CR seemingly buried his vote on Autumn

Anything you want to know? I gave my reasons at the time. I didn't (and still don't) think The Jackal and Render are wolves, and those were the two choices presented. I was wrong on Autumn, but I even said then it wasn't a vote I had much confidence in.

[TheNorm]

A) Was fishy on him first two days.

B) Didn't like the somewhat quick 2nd vote he put on Jackal today

C) Don't like the bait he cast about the gun earlier. Either it's a poor villager play to reveal that or it's a wolf trying to see who else might have such a bonus for future targeting.

A) Don't know what would make you think that, but that's okay.
B) You might not like it but I'm strongly convinced on this one, and there's no way in hell I'm changing it.
C) Just mentioning what my role is with hunting--I'm not asking for the gun nor did I receive one. I mentioned why I wanted to go on the mission, and that was for a chance to find a gun that would make me a more efficient hunter. There's nothing fishy about it--I want to help the camp, and when it became apparent that there were strong objections to it I relented and worked in the camp. Reluctantly yes--guilty as charged there.

[TheNorm]

hey Glen

Heinzey, I am also suspect of the way TheNorm is playing. His reactions are similar to last game when he was a wolf.

...and I understand why you feel that way, but I'm one of the good guys this go round.

I know this game's all about reading into what someone does or doesn't post, etc. My vote is not changing.

[Lathum]

Anything you want to know? I gave my reasons at the time. I didn't (and still don't) think The Jackal and Render are wolves, and those were the two choices presented. I was wrong on Autumn, but I even said then it wasn't a vote I had much confidence in.

why do you think Jackal and Render are in the clear?

[Chief Rum]

why do you think Jackal and Render are in the clear?

Feel, mostly. From reading their posts. The case on The Jackal was based on nothing more than a couple vibe votes and then the momentum of two candidates. He was understandably upset at that. Render was saying a lot of things that were more less exactly my take on things, which tells me he's coming from the same place I am.

That whole vote was a CF from the start. Two candidates picked for slim reasoning, and the village ignored all others. Not saying there was a great case to be made for anyone (we just don't have enough info), but that doesn't mean I have to accept the flimsy cases that are being made at face value.

[Lathum]

fair enough, any thoughts on anyone?

[Chief Rum]

fair enough, any thoughts on anyone?

A jumble of half-formed thoughts, really. Fact is, I have been so busy this week, I have had to skip sections of the thread, or just skim it, so I haven't been able to really develop feels for everyone in the game just yet. It's my intent to take this weekend to read through the thread again properly and put together some conclusions.

I did feel good about both BK and Poli before they came out, so I am gratified that came out well, but I was wrong on Autumn (a rushed vote, really), so has to be shots in the dark right now.

[EagleFan]

As of 1716:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), Barkeep49 (1536), jeheinz72 (1593), ntndeacon (1599), The Jackal (1626), TheNorm (1651) (6/10)
Patrol - Chief Rum x3 (1528), PurdueBrad (1696), EagleFan (1706), Lathum (1709) (6/10)
Mission - claphamsa (1588), DaddyTorgo (1608), Poli (1620) (3/?) - locked (1632)
Jail - USFLTecmo (1642)

Voting:
Jackal 2 - TheNorm (1545), Lathum (1708)
Danny 1 - EagleFan (1567)
ntndeacon 1 - dubb93 (1651)
dubb93 1 - Poli (1675)
TheNorm 1 - jeheinz72 (1682)


No work orders: ntndeacon, Glengoyne, RendeR

No vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, Glengoyne, Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo. Danny, PurdueBrad, The Jackal, RendeR, Barkeep49

[EagleFan]

Not sure if it means anything but maybe we try to get a full 10 on one task. Maybe we can still take the camp if we complete one fully and com close on another, especially if one is seen as more important than the other (I guess the question is which one matches that criteria).

[Danny]

Chief Rum's latest collection of posts is awfully similar to what I've seen from him before as a wolf. I'm not ready to vote him just yet though.

[Chief Rum]

Chief Rum's latest collection of posts is awfully similar to what I've seen from him before as a wolf. I'm not ready to vote him just yet though.

I have posted that way before as a wolf. I have also posted that way as a villager. Really, it's the way I post when real life is busy, and I can't go full out reading every post (which happens in probably 2/3 to 3/4 of the games I am in).

Pass's game, the last one, was one where I did find a little more time to read, and was able to post much more.

I'm just a harmless villager in this one, no special skills, so if you come after me, it doesn't cost the village as much. That said, you won't get a wolf taking me down either, so you're not going to help them there.

[Danny]

I have posted that way before as a wolf. I have also posted that way as a villager. Really, it's the way I post when real life is busy, and I can't go full out reading every post (which happens in probably 2/3 to 3/4 of the games I am in).

Pass's game, the last one, was one where I did find a little more time to read, and was able to post much more.

I'm just a harmless villager in this one, no special skills, so if you come after me, it doesn't cost the village as much. That said, you won't get a wolf taking me down either, so you're not going to help them there.

For me you're the hardest player to get a read on, so I think I will just assume you are a wolf from now on. But since there is nothing objective I'm not voting you... yet ;)

[Chief Rum]

For me you're the hardest player to get a read on, so I think I will just assume you are a wolf from now on. But since there is nothing objective I'm not voting you... yet ;)

Heh...that's what I usually recommend to others. Assume I am a wolf and just keep trying to kill me until I am cleared. I, of course, don't like that so much, since, wolf or villager, I get a lot less out of WW games if people be killin' me so early. ;)

You're not bad yourself, BTW, in being unreadable, I have found (and, no, you'r not cleared in my book either ;) ).

[dubb93]

Eagle, recheck your numbers you have ATLEAST yourself in the wrong place. You signed up to work on hunting and you have yourself in patrol.

[dubb93]

Work on Hunting

[Glengoyne]

I'm almost half way through and at least I don't suspect Schmidty at this point.

back to reading.

I think some of you post just to hear the keys.

[Danny]

I'm almost half way through and at least I don't suspect Schmidty at this point.

back to reading.

I think some of you post just to hear the keys.

You are Schmidty :p

[The Jackal]

Eagle, recheck your numbers you have ATLEAST yourself in the wrong place. You signed up to work on hunting and you have yourself in patrol.

patrolling - CRx3, PB, Lathum (5/10)
hunting - Danny, BK, heinz, ntn, jackal, Norm, EF, dubb (8/10)

mission - Poli, clap, DT

arrested - USFL

Jackal 2 (TheNorm 1545, Lathum 1708)
Danny 1 (EF 1567)
ntn 1 (dubb 1651)
dubb 1 (Poli 1675)
TheNorm 1 (heinz 1682)

[The Jackal]

I think we learn a lot if we lynch Jackal today, we have 2 trusted people who voted him. If he comes up villager it is possible a sympathizer was on him.

With the reasoning for votes that were put on me, I'm not sure lynching me is going to tell you much.

[PurdueBrad]

Not sure if it means anything but maybe we try to get a full 10 on one task. Maybe we can still take the camp if we complete one fully and com close on another, especially if one is seen as more important than the other (I guess the question is which one matches that criteria).

I don't know if this will or will not help but it doesn't hurt to try.

unwork patrolling

work hunting

[The Jackal]

-cough go caps cough-

[PurdueBrad]

You realize I haven't voted yet, right? I think you being a Flyers fan and now going for the Caps is better than voting on a vibe.

[The Jackal]

You realize I haven't voted yet, right? I think you being a Flyers fan and now going for the Caps is better than voting on a vibe.

I didn't vote for you either, right? Friggin Flyers. :banghead:

[Danny]

With the reasoning for votes that were put on me, I'm not sure lynching me is going to tell you much.

It tells us the circumstances in yesterday's voting.

[EagleFan]

Eagle, recheck your numbers you have ATLEAST yourself in the wrong place. You signed up to work on hunting and you have yourself in patrol.

lol, thanks. That was me thinking one thing and doing another. In my mind I was saying patrol but typed hunting for some reason. I'll update the totals and may swtich to patrol if needed.

[EagleFan]

As of 1734:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), Barkeep49 (1536), jeheinz72 (1593), ntndeacon (1599), The Jackal (1626), TheNorm (1651), EagleFan (1706), dubb93 (1724), PurdueBrad (1729) (9/10)
Patrol - Chief Rum x3 (1528), Lathum (1709) (4/10)
Mission - claphamsa (1588), DaddyTorgo (1608), Poli (1620) (3/?) - locked (1632)
Jail - USFLTecmo (1642)

Voting:
Jackal 2 - TheNorm (1545), Lathum (1708)
Danny 1 - EagleFan (1567)
ntndeacon 1 - dubb93 (1651)
dubb93 1 - Poli (1675)
TheNorm 1 - jeheinz72 (1682)


No work orders: Glengoyne, RendeR

No vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, Glengoyne, Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo. Danny, PurdueBrad, The Jackal, RendeR, Barkeep49

[EagleFan]

unvote Danny

vote TheNorm


Isn't his skill hunting, yet he says that he is only a x1 (unless he gets a gun). Almost sounds like a sympathizer trying to setup and excuse for two things, one being why we don't get enough work units and the oter to try to get someone to pass him a gun.

[EagleFan]

As of 1736:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), Barkeep49 (1536), jeheinz72 (1593), ntndeacon (1599), The Jackal (1626), TheNorm (1651), EagleFan (1706), dubb93 (1724), PurdueBrad (1729) (9/10)
Patrol - Chief Rum x3 (1528), Lathum (1709) (4/10)
Mission - claphamsa (1588), DaddyTorgo (1608), Poli (1620) (3/?) - locked (1632)
Jail - USFLTecmo (1642)

Voting:
Jackal 2 - TheNorm (1545), Lathum (1708)
ntndeacon 1 - dubb93 (1651)
dubb93 1 - Poli (1675)
TheNorm 2 - jeheinz72 (1682), EagleFan (1736)


No work orders: Glengoyne, RendeR

No vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, Glengoyne, Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo. Danny, PurdueBrad, The Jackal, RendeR, Barkeep49

[RendeR]

SO based on your numbers we cannot complete both work requirements?

[EagleFan]

SO based on your numbers we cannot complete both work requirements?

Nope. Which is why I was thinking that if we complete one of the tasks an come close on the other maybe we can salvage it.

[EagleFan]

SO based on your numbers we cannot complete both work requirements?

Based on TheNorm saying he is oly x1 we were screwed from the start as that means we would have needed 16 of the 17 on the camp with only 1 on mission. My initial calculations were assuming he was a x3.

Something isn't making sense. We are missing something that must be right under our noses. If TheNorm is just x1 we had no chance of completing both camp jobs today, even if everyone went on one of the camp tasks as the arrest of USFL doomed us no matter what else happened.

[TheNorm]

unvote Danny

vote TheNorm


Isn't his skill hunting, yet he says that he is only a x1 (unless he gets a gun). Almost sounds like a sympathizer trying to setup and excuse for two things, one being why we don't get enough work units and the oter to try to get someone to pass him a gun.

I've only been saying it since Day Two when the mission came up, and it hasn't changed.

Even with a couple of the votes coming my way, there's no way my vote comes off of Jackal. If you want to eliminate a sympathizer you'll do the same. I know some of you look to what a player has done in previous games to get a read on them, and some to great effect. Some people know I don't vote early, and here I am doing so now. That should tell you a lot.

[EagleFan]

I've only been saying it since Day Two when the mission came up, and it hasn't changed.

Even with a couple of the votes coming my way, there's no way my vote comes off of Jackal. If you want to eliminate a sympathizer you'll do the same. I know some of you look to what a player has done in previous games to get a read on them, and some to great effect. Some people know I don't vote early, and here I am doing so now. That should tell you a lot.

What I don't get is that you have a specialty but it is worthless to you without another object? I have been looking back over the thread today and I now see that the other hunters revealed as x2's. It just seems odd that you would not have at least a x2 as your specialty or it really isn't a specialty.

I may rehink my vote but if we follow through with the Jackal idea and he is not a sympathizer your name will defintiley be the next one "written" down.

[EagleFan]

Going with a hunch. I hope my gut isn't steering me wrong on this one. I guess if what you say is true then your desire to go on the mission day two makes more sense.

unvote TheNorm

vote The Jackal

[EagleFan]

As of 1743:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), Barkeep49 (1536), jeheinz72 (1593), ntndeacon (1599), The Jackal (1626), TheNorm (1651), EagleFan (1706), dubb93 (1724), PurdueBrad (1729) (9/10)
Patrol - Chief Rum x3 (1528), Lathum (1709) (4/10)
Mission - claphamsa (1588), DaddyTorgo (1608), Poli (1620) (3/?) - locked (1632)
Jail - USFLTecmo (1642)

Voting:
Jackal 3 - TheNorm (1545), Lathum (1708), EagleFan (1743)
ntndeacon 1 - dubb93 (1651)
dubb93 1 - Poli (1675)
TheNorm 1 - jeheinz72 (1682)


No work orders: Glengoyne, RendeR

No vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, Glengoyne, Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo. Danny, PurdueBrad, The Jackal, RendeR, Barkeep49

[dubb93]

Unvote NtN
Vote Jackal

[dubb93]

Norm, I changed my vote b/c I think I know what you are. I would suggest you reveal all of your scans before night if you are what I think you are. I would also suggest Poli protect you.

I may be wrong on this however.

[EagleFan]

Norm, I changed my vote b/c I think I know what you are. I would suggest you reveal all of your scans before night if you are what I think you are. I would also suggest Poli protect you.

I may be wrong on this however.

I agree.

This adds a very nice CoT for us with: BK, Poli, TheNorm and myself

This narrows down the list of other potential choices.

[EagleFan]

I also think that Poli shouldn't confirm that he is guarding TheNorm as there needs to be some doubt left in everyone's mind.

[EagleFan]

As of 1743:

Work:
Hunting - Danny (1534), Barkeep49 (1536), jeheinz72 (1593), ntndeacon (1599), The Jackal (1626), TheNorm (1651), EagleFan (1706), dubb93 (1724), PurdueBrad (1729) (9/10)
Patrol - Chief Rum x3 (1528), Lathum (1709) (4/10)
Mission - claphamsa (1588), DaddyTorgo (1608), Poli (1620) (3/?) - locked (1632)
Jail - USFLTecmo (1642)

Voting:
Jackal 4 - TheNorm (1545), Lathum (1708), EagleFan (1743), dubb93 (1745)
dubb93 1 - Poli (1675)
TheNorm 1 - jeheinz72 (1682)


No work orders: Glengoyne, RendeR

No vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, Glengoyne, Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo. Danny, PurdueBrad, The Jackal, RendeR, Barkeep49

[EagleFan]

Just at a glance (if TheNorm is saying what I think he is saying):

1. Poli
2. Lathum
4. dubb
5. claphamsa
6. ntndeacon
7. USFLTecmo
8. TheNorm
9. EagleFan
10. Glengoyne
11. Chief Rum
12. DaddyTorgo
13. Danny
14. PurdueBrad
17. The Jackal
18. RendeR
19. Barkeep
20. jeheinz