WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!!

[PurdueBrad]

the PB vote day one has become a bit of a joke but I actually had no plan on voting him this game but that day two flop just eats at me. Especially with Jackal staying on the mission it seems like a sympathiser trying to get out of the line of fire so there wouldn't be two of their own standing out for going on the mission instead of the camp.

I understand where EF is coming from but I firmly believed that the items were important. IF I were a wolf, I would stayed there with Jackal to have a shot to get two items and would've outright said screw the village OR I would have put my move in for the mission and "left for the day." Neither of which I did.

I may have been misguided (but now that we lost the camp anyway, I'm not so sure) but I do openly stand by that choice. I did nothing sneaky and admitted I was being selfish.

The one thing I don't get is the Jackal connection he's making. I read the description differently from others but all the searchers were going, Norm and I considered going, I don't know how that makes a link between me and Jackal, particularly when it wasn't a success or failure mission.

For the record, I also voted Jackal twice. The night he got duked away from and the night he got lynched.

[PurdueBrad]

The above should not be taken to cast suspicion on EF, Poli proved he's good. I just think he's off on his read but I understand (see my voting record two games ago when, despite being good, I think the only time I voted for a wolf was when I caught them doing their kill).

[jeheinz72]

That all makes sense PB, just tying up some mental loose ends. I don't really get you taking heat for being on the mission and then switching. I mean realistically, didn't our friggin seer do the same thing?

[jeheinz72]

DT has been unusally quiet this game. Though given how DT typically plays, I'm not sure that's an indictment

[PurdueBrad]

Heinz, I appreciate it. I've got to be honest, I don't have a great read on anybody. I feel like there are several guys that are playing very, very low key but at the same time it isn't necessarily out of character for them. I'm on dubb right now just because he seems very different than last game in the sense that he's not trying to run the show or be as involved.

[PurdueBrad]

Had it not been for the arrest, USFL Tecmo would be someone I would've considered right now but that semi-clears him.

I'm going to go back at some point today to look at which nights had no kills to see if there is a bribe we could've missed on someone after they were cleared. I doubt it but hell, I got nothing else.

[jeheinz72]

Heinz, I appreciate it. I've got to be honest, I don't have a great read on anybody. I feel like there are several guys that are playing very, very low key but at the same time it isn't necessarily out of character for them. I'm on dubb right now just because he seems very different than last game in the sense that he's not trying to run the show or be as involved.

I'm basically in the same boat. Granted, I'm in no place to be casting many aspersions as I'm as uncleared as they come but I don't know, this game just gives me the heebie-jeebies. I get the feeling we're being completely snowed by someone.

Dubb just seems almost TOO obvious to me. Basically we as a village have stunk this game, at least the vanilla villagers have. To hit again just seems so darn unlikely.

[PurdueBrad]

I guess what surprises me most for us is the inability to win camps recently. I really thought that we would likely win the game by winning the camps as opposed to smoking out wolves, but we're getting drilled left and right on camps and, with no nightkills, I wonder if people are being bought off slowly or the wolves just can't do two actions.

[PurdueBrad]

I'm out to teach for a while but should be back after school at some point.

[jeheinz72]

I guess what surprises me most for us is the inability to win camps recently. I really thought that we would likely win the game by winning the camps as opposed to smoking out wolves, but we're getting drilled left and right on camps and, with no nightkills, I wonder if people are being bought off slowly or the wolves just can't do two actions.

That's my primary concern.

[Abe Sargent]

The mines tried to fight with propaganda. They release statements in papers with claims of severe laziness by miners, and that they had been provided:

”[P]rovided for his men a swimming pool, a library, a reading room, a bowling alley and even a miniature theatre.”

No coal camp in WV meets this description, and it was used about a coal town in Cabin Creek.

[EagleFan]

CoT:
Poli
Barkeep
TheNorm
EagleFan

Outer Ring (a possible cunning is all the keeps him from a lock at the moment):
Lathum
Chief Rum

Good feel about:
Glengoyne/Schmidty
Danny
RendeR

Sympathiser
???

4. dubb - a lot of suspicion around him at the moment
5. claphamsa - no good read at the moment
6. ntndeacon - is he playing? ;)
7. USFLTecmo - wolf plan to arrest their own?
12. DaddyTorgo - seems to be doing a lot of following, have seen that as a wolf
14. PurdueBrad - still suspicious of the switch from the mission day 2, especially now with TheNorm being good and Jackal being bad (didn't Jackal go on the mission that day? It would make sense that they did not want multiple wolves on the mission when they decided to arrest me)
20. jeheinz - I always think he is a wolf, need to look at a little more as I have no read at the moment.



An update from an earlier list.

[PurdueBrad]

didn't Jackal go on the mission that day? It would make sense that they did not want multiple wolves on the mission when they decided to arrest me

EF, can you do me a favor and clarify a point here. Why wouldn't they want multiple wolves there if they were going to arrest you and make the camp fail anyway? Wouldn't they want to plead ignorance and say, "it looked like you had it covered" and then the arrest would look like a surprise to them as well. Or am I missing something?

[DaddyTorgo]

DT has been unusally quiet this game. Though given how DT typically plays, I'm not sure that's an indictment

I mentioned on Monday morning that I'd be quiet this game. Busy busy week at work meant I couldn't check the thread a ton, and I've tried to keep up while at home, but haven't had much in the way of thrilling insight. Was also just pretty tired.

Spent Saturday helping with some yardwork (repotting a TREE), and then yesterday I walked 20 miles and got home and collapsed.

Games like this with so many moving parts it's always harder for me to get a read on things too.

[EagleFan]

EF, can you do me a favor and clarify a point here. Why wouldn't they want multiple wolves there if they were going to arrest you and make the camp fail anyway? Wouldn't they want to plead ignorance and say, "it looked like you had it covered" and then the arrest would look like a surprise to them as well. Or am I missing something?

They would assume that we are going to go after the people that went on the mission. There would be 4 people on the mission if you had gone and 2 would be wolves (assuming you are a wolf in this scenario). That gives us a great chance of finding a wolf with a lynch or with a scan. The seer already said he began scanning those who went on the mission just because of that which is what netted us Jackal. It would not be a wise move to leave multiple wolves exposed.

[EagleFan]

Anyone else find it odd that now after Jackal is gone PB's posts have increased dramatically?

[Poli]

Ironicaly, I had the same thought about DT this morning.

[Poli]

Vote PurdueBrad

I became a little worried of his 'sympathetic' ear while Pass was badgering me. I wouldn't put it past the two of them to play good cop/bad cop on me.

No offense, PB. You're still my boy and my tag team partner in the next dungeon.

[Poli]

Poli's list, blantantly stolen from Eaglefan.

CoT:
Poli
Barkeep
TheNorm
EagleFan

Outer Ring (a possible cunning is all the keeps him from a lock at the moment):
Lathum
Chief Rum

Good feel about:

RendeR
Ntndeacon
usfltecmo

Sympathiser
???
PurdueBrad
dubb
claphamsa
DaddyTorgo
jeheinz
danny

If I had to put the ones listed in black in an order of most concerned to least, I'd say it's in this order.

[claphamsa]

I mentioned on Monday morning that I'd be quiet this game. Busy busy week at work meant I couldn't check the thread a ton, and I've tried to keep up while at home, but haven't had much in the way of thrilling insight. Was also just pretty tired.

Spent Saturday helping with some yardwork (repotting a TREE), and then yesterday I walked 20 miles and got home and collapsed.

Games like this with so many moving parts it's always harder for me to get a read on things too.

what in the world would posses you to walk 20 miles?

[claphamsa]

Poli's list, blantantly stolen from Eaglefan.

CoT:
Poli
Barkeep
TheNorm
EagleFan

Outer Ring (a possible cunning is all the keeps him from a lock at the moment):
Lathum
Chief Rum

Good feel about:

RendeR
Ntndeacon
usfltecmo

Sympathiser
???
PurdueBrad
dubb
claphamsa
DaddyTorgo
jeheinz
danny

If I had to put the ones listed in black in an order of most concerned to least, I'd say it's in this order.


why do you not trsut me?

[Poli]

Why should I trust you?

[Lathum]

work on food distribution

[claphamsa]

Why should I trust you?
just asking :)

[PurdueBrad]

Anyone else find it odd that now after Jackal is gone PB's posts have increased dramatically?

Are you serious? Do you look back before you say something or do you just post based on your perception? I've posted six times after Jackal's death (two were to put in vote or work orders, one was a correction and three were theories).

THEN every other post I put up is in regards to your vote for me, your suspicion of what you call my "flop" or to put forth why I made the choices I made. Come on. I've posted over 100 times, didn't post much on Friday-Sunday because, frankly, I thought taking my kid to the zoo was worth doing, same with trying to spend time outside with my family on the weekend. But fine, if you think I've posted more because I tried to answer concerns and questions, fine. Jesus. We're in day 5 or 6 and 18% of my posts came after Jackal's death, what does that tell you about the other 82%?

[claphamsa]

Are you serious? Do you look back before you say something or do you just post based on your perception? I've posted six times after Jackal's death (two were to put in vote or work orders, one was a correction and three were theories).

THEN every other post I put up is in regards to your vote for me, your suspicion of what you call my "flop" or to put forth why I made the choices I made. Come on. I've posted over 100 times, didn't post much on Friday-Sunday because, frankly, I thought taking my kid to the zoo was worth doing, same with trying to spend time outside with my family on the weekend. But fine, if you think I've posted more because I tried to answer concerns and questions, fine. Jesus. We're in day 5 or 6 and 18% of my posts came after Jackal's death, what does that tell you about the other 82%?

that you actually counted your posts :P

[Poli]

just asking :)
As am I. Why shoud I trust you?

[claphamsa]

As am I. Why shoud I trust you?

cuz ive been so busy last week, that i have no idea what is going on :)

if I was a wolf, someone would have explained it to me :)

[PurdueBrad]

that you actually counted your posts :P

Yeah, didn't take too long actually. But I love that I do stay around, answer questions, and put forth ideas, and people drop off the face of the earth and get nothing. I should look back to see what day I posted the most, maybe it was 9/12 and I am the missing hijacker.

Tantrum over.


...no, wait :rant: now tantrum over.

[jeheinz72]

ROFL

[jeheinz72]

I see USFL and Glengoyne in the thread, would love to get their read on our current situation.

[jeheinz72]

And Lathum too

[Lathum]

Pass-1- Clap (1116)
Render-4- Lathum (1134), Autumn (1190), Pass (1331),The Jackal (1377)
Jackal-6-Danny (1166), Poli (1202), Heinze (1216), BK (1312), PB (1334), Render (1354)
Autumn-1- CR (1255)
Schmidty-2-USFL (1358), Dubb (1361),
No Lynch-1-TheNorm (1370)
PB- 1- Ef (1373)

So looking back through this we see that PB cast a pretty late vote on Jackal, that opens up 2 possibilites.

1. PB is a villager and was casting a late vote on a suspected wolf.

2. PB is a wolf and they had given up on Jackal. I can actually see this as a possibility. Pass and Jackal had already voted on Render, for a 3rd wolf to vote Render would be pretty ballsy, especially once it came out Jackal was a wolf it would look like PB was trying to save him.

I also don't like Clap's vote on Pass, looks like a possible wolf voting for another wolf so later in the game he can try and use that as a defense.

[Poli]

Yeah, think I'll switch my vote over at this point.

UNVOTE PB

VOTE CLAP

[jeheinz72]

So looking back through this we see that PB cast a pretty late vote on Jackal, that opens up 2 possibilites.

1. PB is a villager and was casting a late vote on a suspected wolf.

2. PB is a wolf and they had given up on Jackal. I can actually see this as a possibility. Pass and Jackal had already voted on Render, for a 3rd wolf to vote Render would be pretty ballsy, especially once it came out Jackal was a wolf it would look like PB was trying to save him.

I also don't like Clap's vote on Pass, looks like a possible wolf voting for another wolf so later in the game he can try and use that as a defense.

Haha, clap planning ahead. That's a good one Lathum. You're a hoot.

[EagleFan]

Yeah, didn't take too long actually. But I love that I do stay around, answer questions, and put forth ideas, and people drop off the face of the earth and get nothing. I should look back to see what day I posted the most, maybe it was 9/12 and I am the missing hijacker.

Tantrum over.


...no, wait :rant: now tantrum over.

At least we found the missing hijacker...

You seem WAY too defensive at this point. You were defending yourself against one vote. That same vote was on you earlier in the game and got no major response. The only difference between now and then is that Pass and Jackal are gone.

Just sayin'..... :)

[jeheinz72]

In PB's defense, I've been kickin' the tires.

[PurdueBrad]

At least we found the missing hijacker...

You seem WAY too defensive at this point. You were defending yourself against one vote. That same vote was on you earlier in the game and got no major response. The only difference between now and then is that Pass and Jackal are gone.

Just sayin'..... :)

You're way more accusatory now, only difference is that Pass, the Jackal, and the Flyers are gone.

Just saying.

[PurdueBrad]

I thought about arguing for the benefit of a scan but there are only one of two possible outcomes. First, Norm gets nightkilled which them makes me look guilty as hell. Or, and this is my favorite, I come back good/clean at which point you'll revert to calling me the cunning. So it really feels no win at this point.

[USFLTecmo]

I see USFL and Glengoyne in the thread, would love to get their read on our current situation.

I'm just glad that Norm nailed us a sympathizer. I have no idea where to go with the vote, and it doesn't seem like there's any real trend here either. I'm a little shocked the wolves picked me rather than CR to be jailed the other day, because we're both x3 patrol, and I don't hold a candle to CR yet in terms of analysis and overall helpfulness. Maybe a ploy to frame CR? I'm glad Norm scanned him too, because CR was my initial suspicion when I was jailed.

My best interpretation is that this is the last stage of the conflict, the endgame. I wish there was confirmation on that, but I don't see any at first glance.

[Poli]

I see no situation whatsoever in which Norm gets nightkilled this evening.

Thus sayeth the bodyguard.

[claphamsa]

So looking back through this we see that PB cast a pretty late vote on Jackal, that opens up 2 possibilites.

1. PB is a villager and was casting a late vote on a suspected wolf.

2. PB is a wolf and they had given up on Jackal. I can actually see this as a possibility. Pass and Jackal had already voted on Render, for a 3rd wolf to vote Render would be pretty ballsy, especially once it came out Jackal was a wolf it would look like PB was trying to save him.

I also don't like Clap's vote on Pass, looks like a possible wolf voting for another wolf so later in the game he can try and use that as a defense.
was random, never said otherwise

[claphamsa]

Yeah, think I'll switch my vote over at this point.

UNVOTE PB

VOTE CLAP
even with no reason?

[claphamsa]

Haha, clap planning ahead. That's a good one Lathum. You're a hoot.
jerk

[Lathum]

was random, never said otherwise

how does that do anything to make it less suspicous?

[Poli]

I've asked you to give me a reason to trust you and all I get are smiley faces. I'm just repaying the favor. :)

[claphamsa]

how does that do anything to make it less suspicous?


why would it be suspicious at all? I could see your argument if i was trumpeting that I had voted for pass, but I haven't mentioned it (other than in an offhanded manner once) so....

[claphamsa]

I've asked you to give me a reason to trust you and all I get are smiley faces. I'm just repaying the favor. :)
fair enouhg :P

Im no loss for the village, stupid flu has taken too much of my time, and im clueless at this point :(

[claphamsa]

I have over 100 fewer posts, than 2 dead guys :(

[claphamsa]

ok, gym then home, another shitty day, at least I can leave ontime :)

[EagleFan]

Work Breakdown

Day One
Gladhandling: jeheinz72, claphamsa, dubb93, Lathum, Schmidty
Oratory: Passacaglia, PurdueBrad, Autumn, DaddyTorgo, Chief Rum, USFLTecmo, path12

Mission: Poli, Jackal, RendeR, ntndeacon, Danny, EagleFan, Barkeep49, TheNorm


Day Two
Patrol: Chief Rum, USFLTecmo
Food Distirbution: Lathum, Barkeep49, PurdueBrad, jeheinz72, dubb93, Autumn, TheNorm, Danny, Passacaglia
Organizing: claphamsa, Schmidty, ntndeacon, DaddyTorgo

Mission: Poli, Jackal, RendeR

Arrested: EagleFan


Day Three
Gladhandling: dubb93, claphamsa, jeheinz72
Oratory: DaddyTorgo, Autumn, RendeR
Treasury: Barkeep49, EagleFan, USFLTecmo, Lathum, TheNorm, Chief Rum
Organization: PurdueBrad, ntndeacon, Poli, Jackal, Passacaglia


Day Four
Hunting: Danny, Barkeep49, jeheinz72, ntndeacon, The Jackal, TheNorm, EagleFan, dubb93, PurdueBrad, RendeR
Patrol: Chief Rum, Lathum, Glengoyne

Mission: claphamsa, DaddyTorgo, Poli

Arrested: USFLTecmo



Updated with day 4 and CR's scan.

[Lathum]

why would it be suspicious at all? I could see your argument if i was trumpeting that I had voted for pass, but I haven't mentioned it (other than in an offhanded manner once) so....

you wouldn't have needed to mention it until you came under some heat.

[EagleFan]

Work Breakdown

Day One
Gladhandling: jeheinz72, claphamsa, dubb93, Lathum, Schmidty
Oratory: Passacaglia, PurdueBrad, Autumn, DaddyTorgo, Chief Rum, USFLTecmo, path12

Mission: Poli, Jackal, RendeR, ntndeacon, Danny, EagleFan, Barkeep49, TheNorm


Day Two
Patrol: Chief Rum, USFLTecmo
Food Distirbution: Lathum, Barkeep49, PurdueBrad, jeheinz72, dubb93, Autumn, TheNorm, Danny, Passacaglia
Organizing: claphamsa, Schmidty, ntndeacon, DaddyTorgo

Mission: Poli, Jackal, RendeR

Arrested: EagleFan


Day Three
Gladhandling: dubb93, claphamsa, jeheinz72
Oratory: DaddyTorgo, Autumn, RendeR
Treasury: Barkeep49, EagleFan, USFLTecmo, Lathum, TheNorm, Chief Rum
Organization: PurdueBrad, ntndeacon, Poli, Jackal, Passacaglia


Day Four
Hunting: Danny, Barkeep49, jeheinz72, ntndeacon, The Jackal, TheNorm, EagleFan, dubb93, PurdueBrad, RendeR
Patrol: Chief Rum, Lathum, Glengoyne

Mission: claphamsa, DaddyTorgo, Poli

Arrested: USFLTecmo



Updated with day 4 and CR's scan. Sorry, had missed one of Poli's actions.

[EagleFan]

Work Breakdown

Day One
Gladhandling: jeheinz72, claphamsa, dubb93, Lathum, Schmidty
Oratory: Passacaglia, PurdueBrad, Autumn, DaddyTorgo, Chief Rum, USFLTecmo, path12

Mission: Poli, Jackal, RendeR, ntndeacon, Danny, EagleFan, Barkeep49, TheNorm


Day Two
Patrol: Chief Rum, USFLTecmo
Food Distirbution: Lathum, Barkeep49, PurdueBrad, jeheinz72, dubb93, Autumn, TheNorm, Danny, Passacaglia
Organizing: claphamsa, Schmidty, ntndeacon, DaddyTorgo

Mission: Poli, Jackal, RendeR

Arrested: EagleFan


Day Three
Gladhandling: dubb93, claphamsa, jeheinz72
Oratory: DaddyTorgo, Autumn, RendeR
Treasury: Barkeep49, EagleFan, USFLTecmo, Lathum, TheNorm, Chief Rum
Organization: PurdueBrad, ntndeacon, Poli, Jackal, Passacaglia


Day Four
Hunting: Danny, Barkeep49, jeheinz72, ntndeacon, The Jackal, TheNorm, EagleFan, dubb93, PurdueBrad, RendeR
Patrol: Chief Rum, Lathum, Glengoyne

Mission: claphamsa, DaddyTorgo, Poli

Arrested: USFLTecmo



Updated with day 4 and CR's scan. Sorry, had missed another one of Poli's actions. His name is too small, my eyes keep missing it. :)

[PurdueBrad]

Gladhanding: dubbx3, clapx3, jeheinzx3 9/8
Oratory: Purduex3, Daddyx3, Autumn, Render 8/8
Treasury: Barkeepx3, EagleFan, USFL, Lathum, TheNorm, Chief Rum 8/8
Organization: ntndeaconx3, Poli, Jackal 5/8

Correction EF, I worked my specialty on the day that you made it look like I didn't (Day 3).

[PurdueBrad]

So I worked my specialty every time I could, did food distribution when Autumn told me to, and hunted to make sure we reached at least the ten there on the weekend.

[Poli]

I guess you could say I'm on a mission.

[Poli]

I'd have to say that helps my view of PB and ntn. I seriously doubt three sympathizers would all attempt to do the same 'work'.

[Lathum]

Vote PB

I think the voting record is what clinches it for me. Day 2 he had no where to go, a vote on Render looks bad as does a throw away. I think they hedged their bets hoping to gain trust by voting Jackal.

[Abe Sargent]

In Senate testimony, representatives of the mines are forced to admit that the Baldwin-Felts detectives “They were not the grade of men who should be representing the rights of property and justice.” Later, one accidentally and off-handedly admits that industrious men would still end each month $25 in debt instead of having made money.

[EagleFan]

Disregard that work list. I switched PB with someone on day 3, have to find out who. PB actually worked Oratory on day three. I thought for certain that we had him when I saw that he was in the organization column but I just double checked and he worked Oratory.

[EagleFan]

I'd have to say that helps my view of PB and ntn. I seriously doubt three sympathizers would all attempt to do the same 'work'.

Oddly that was initially another nail I had in his coffin since hie skill is oratory. I double checked and I had him in the wrong column, he worked oratory that day.

[EagleFan]

Work Breakdown

Day One
Gladhandling: jeheinz72, claphamsa, dubb93, Lathum, Schmidty
Oratory: Passacaglia, PurdueBrad, Autumn, DaddyTorgo, Chief Rum, USFLTecmo, path12

Mission: Poli, Jackal, RendeR, ntndeacon, Danny, EagleFan, Barkeep49, TheNorm


Day Two
Patrol: Chief Rum, USFLTecmo
Food Distirbution: Lathum, Barkeep49, PurdueBrad, jeheinz72, dubb93, Autumn, TheNorm, Danny, Passacaglia
Organizing: claphamsa, Schmidty, ntndeacon, DaddyTorgo

Mission: Poli, Jackal, RendeR

Arrested: EagleFan


Day Three
Gladhandling: dubb93, claphamsa, jeheinz72
Oratory: PurdueBrad, DaddyTorgo, Autumn, RendeR
Treasury: Barkeep49, EagleFan, USFLTecmo, Lathum, TheNorm, Chief Rum
Organization: ntndeacon, Poli, Jackal, Passacaglia


Day Four
Hunting: Danny, Barkeep49, jeheinz72, ntndeacon, The Jackal, TheNorm, EagleFan, dubb93, PurdueBrad, RendeR
Patrol: Chief Rum, Lathum, Glengoyne

Mission: claphamsa, DaddyTorgo, Poli

Arrested: USFLTecmo



Updated with PB in the correct column for day three. My spreadsheet skills are lacking.

[EagleFan]

I should probably add a no work category for day three for Danny and Schmigoyne.

[EagleFan]

Correction EF, I worked my specialty on the day that you made it look like I didn't (Day 3).

Corrected. I thought that was odd (and the final nail in your coffin to be honest) so I double checked. Had you in the wrong column that day. I need to go to excel 101. :)

[jeheinz72]

Anyone got a vote count handy?

Is it like 2-1-1? 1-1-1?

[RendeR]

o/~ Saint Peter don'tcha call cause I can't goooooo, I OWE my soul ......to the company store.....o/~

[dubb93]

Those of you voting for me I'm not sure what else I can do to clear myself. I asked to be scanned and cleared, the seer decided to clear someone who people weren't saying the were going to vote for today. I guess if you want to vote for me vote for me, my one shot was the seer clearing me and he decided not to.

A vote for me today removes a x3 on the good side from play and also wastes the days vote on a good guy.

[dubb93]

My specialty isn't up for today, organization. So I'm one point of labor.

It looks too early to determine where that will get placed.


This should be pretty much a slam dunk...unless our losses have eaten up too many of our x3 players in a given area. My thoughts....We figure out our maximum output, identify our weak points(where we've taken losses), and shore up those weaknesses. We can be counting on any x3 folks to be around tomorrow.

With 3 x3 folks in gladhanding, we'll get nine today. I think anyone else's one point in labor would be better spent elsewhere. Because there is no way that all three of them will be gone tomorrow.

So in short we shore up the weaknesses, and spread the rest evenly.

for now, although I'll be in later.

work PATROL
vote Dubb




You are voting me yet counting on my x3 in gladhandling? That doesn't make sense. If you think I'm a wolf enough to vote me you shouldn't be counting on my x3. You should either re-do your numbers or unvote me.

[jeheinz72]

Do we know who is a x3 in something that can't help us today/tomorrow?

[EagleFan]

As of 2068:

Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), Glengoyne (1996) (9/10)
Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum (2023) (7/10)
Gladhandling: dubb93 x3 (1898), claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952) (9/10)
Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo (1946) (4/10)


PurdueBrad 2 - EagleFan (1915), Lathum (2059)
dubb93 3 - Barkeep (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1996)
claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034)

no work order: ntndeacon, TheNorm, Barkeep49

no vote: dubb93, claphamsa, ntndeacon, USFLTecmo, TheNorm, Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo, RendeR, jeheinz72, Danny

[Glengoyne]

I see USFL and Glengoyne in the thread, would love to get their read on our current situation.

I've got a few things up in the up in the air here, but to sum things up. I think the union is in trouble here. Just continually failing to convert camps, has really put us behind. I don't have a lot of experience tracking votes, but I've learned(in my one game as a wolf) that if you vote like a wolf it really is obvious. So I know that vote tracking produces results, and since we may be close to a tipping point in the sympathizers favor we need to get a wolf tonight.

That said;

Yesterday we had a fair case assembled against Dubb. Well some of you folks did actually. It was laid out, and looked reasonably solid. Well as solid as anything I had seen to that point. I expected two things for today...Dubb to be the leading candidate for lynch, and for Dubb to be pulling out all of the stops to stay in game.

That hasn't happened.
Why? --That's not the least bit rhetorical. Can someone answer that?


In the interest of just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. IIRC, this hasn't exactly worked for me in previous WW games, but I'm just not going to let that stop me.

I'm interested in the move on PB. I don't think the voting case against him is as strong as the one I saw against Dubb yesterday. Yet there has been a run on him. I went to see who started the run on him. I found Eaglefan. Now...If the wolves were going to convert someone...who better than a cleared individual? Same goes with a diversionary effort to spare a wolf, who better to cast the first stone than a cleared individual?

So I'm wanting an opinion from some of you experienced folks. Is the case against PB as good as the case against Dubb?

[EagleFan]

Please let me know if I missed any specialties. I think DT and Lathum are x3's. That makes it look even that much better if that is the case.

[dubb93]

While I was initally skeptical, I think the vote analysis against dubb looks solid.

Vote dubb

I'm not sure how to refute this Barkeep other than you have been playing in games with me since 2004 or 2005 and you know what I'm like in game either good or bad, I move my vote around. That doesn't clear me, but I think damning me based on me moving my vote around is silly. I have always moved my vote around alot.

[Glengoyne]

Of course this all goes out the window if Dubb isn't a wolf.

If Dubb is a wolf, then what I've laid out is at least plausible.

If Dubb is a villager, then I'm exposed as not knowing a whole helluva lot about this game.

[dubb93]

Know that CR is good, I'll

vote dubb

So both CR and I could not have possibly been good? Am I missing something here?

[Lathum]

You are voting me yet counting on my x3 in gladhandling? That doesn't make sense. If you think I'm a wolf enough to vote me you shouldn't be counting on my x3. You should either re-do your numbers or unvote me.

do you mean he shouldn't be counting because you may fake your work?

[dubb93]

do you mean he shouldn't be counting because you may fake your work?

?

[dubb93]

I believe it goes without saying that a dead wolf would fake his work.

[EagleFan]

One question. There has been mention of the number of people the sympathisers would put in one area of camp work in a given night. If they are not planning on faking work does it really matter where they put their work? I would think that it would only matter if that was going to be something that we investigated (like the mission group from day two).

[Lathum]

Please let me know if I missed any specialties. I think DT and Lathum are x3's. That makes it look even that much better if that is the case.

I am a x3 in food if thats what you are asking

[Lathum]

You are voting me yet counting on my x3 in gladhandling? That doesn't make sense. If you think I'm a wolf enough to vote me you shouldn't be counting on my x3. You should either re-do your numbers or unvote me.

?

I just don't understand this statement.

Abe did say earlier that the person who is lynched work still counts for that day

[dubb93]

I just don't understand this statement.

Abe did say earlier that the person who is lynched work still counts for that day

It isn't a hard concept.

[jeheinz72]

I just can't see enough of the case on PB and I'm not throwing away my vote (I don't think a clappy vote deserved and I don't think it'll get traction).

I'm not really sold on this vote, but it seems the most prudent course of action. Sorry holmes if you're a villager.

Vote Dubb

[Lathum]

It isn't a hard concept.

no need to be a dick

[dubb93]

no need to be a dick

The same could of been said in reverse on page 37.

I don't advise scanning Dubb......Thanks for scanning me Norm!

[dubb93]

Anyway to get to the point Glen is assuming I am a wolf yet he is counting on my work. That just doesn't make sense. Lathum, if you were a wolf and were voted out that day would you actually do that work? Or do you think you would fake it?

That said I am not a wolf.

[Lathum]

The same could of been said in reverse on page 37.

are you insane?

my comment was solely based on gameplay and strategy, how is that being a dick?

On the other hand I asked you to explain something you posted and your response was "It isn't that hard"

get some perspective.

[Lathum]

Anyway to get to the point Glen is assuming I am a wolf yet he is counting on my work. That just doesn't make sense. Lathum, if you were a wolf and were voted out that day would you actually do that work? Or do you think you would fake it?

That said I am not a wolf.

I get it, was that so hard?

[dubb93]

I get it, was that so hard?

Seems so.

[TheNorm]

I'm interested in the move on PB. I don't think the voting case against him is as strong as the one I saw against Dubb yesterday. Yet there has been a run on him. I went to see who started the run on him. I found Eaglefan. Now...If the wolves were going to convert someone...who better than a cleared individual? Same goes with a diversionary effort to spare a wolf, who better to cast the first stone than a cleared individual?

So I'm wanting an opinion from some of you experienced folks. Is the case against PB as good as the case against Dubb?

I'll clear EF--while him handing me a shotgun (this past evening) may not totally clear him for some, I highly doubt a sympathizer would hand a known labor worker a gun.

Since I can't guarantee I'll be back before the work deadline tonight, I'll put one here now...

Work Patrolling

...and thanks Tecmo for the apt. hunting wishes. :)

[Danny]

Catching up, but PB and Dubb are good choices that developed today.

[Danny]

I don't have the same suspicion on Clap, I actually feel the opposite way about his Pass vote as it was the second vote on him and could easily have lead to more votes and Pass being lynched. I feel comfortable with our choices of PB and Dubb, not sure where I'm headed yet.

[Danny]

Do we have a vote count?

[jeheinz72]

I believe it is Dubb (4), PB (2), Clappalappadingdong (1)

[Glengoyne]

As of 2068:

Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), Glengoyne (1996) (9/10)
Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum (2023) (7/10)
Gladhandling: dubb93 x3 (1898), claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952) (9/10)
Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo (1946) (4/10)


PurdueBrad 2 - EagleFan (1915), Lathum (2059)
dubb93 3 - Barkeep (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1996)
claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034)

no work order: ntndeacon, TheNorm, Barkeep49

no vote: dubb93, claphamsa, ntndeacon, USFLTecmo, TheNorm, Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo, RendeR, jeheinz72, Danny

EF I rethought my going on Patrol, and went oratory instead.

[USFLTecmo]

Hopping on the dubb bandwagon, call it a vibe thing, but he's striking me as desperate to stay in this game. If he's a villager, he knows it'll hurt the town if he goes, but not as much as it'd hurt the wolves if he's one. I see the latter feeling of desperation in his posts, rather than just "oh no, the town will be down another villager and miss a wolf" vibe.

Vote Dubb

[Glengoyne]

Anyway to get to the point Glen is assuming I am a wolf yet he is counting on my work. That just doesn't make sense. Lathum, if you were a wolf and were voted out that day would you actually do that work? Or do you think you would fake it?

That said I am not a wolf.

You speak as if you know there is a mechanic where a sympathizer, I want to type wolf, can fake their work. As far as I've seen that hasn't happened. So you're telling us that you know that for a fact?

Perhaps in a PM you've received?

[jeheinz72]

Would it be smart if one of the people who is just a x1 to finish off gladhanding today?

As it stands, we'd be 9/10 heading into tomorrow. If the wolves do somehow know this is endgame, it's completely possible that faking that one point would be worth outing a wolf.

Just brainstorming.

[Danny]

Glen, I'm pretty sure Abe said the wolves could fake their work and if not we all have been working off that assumption all game long, so I don't think saying that means anything.

[Lathum]

You speak as if you know there is a mechanic where a sympathizer, I want to type wolf, can fake their work. As far as I've seen that hasn't happened. So you're telling us that you know that for a fact?

Perhaps in a PM you've received?

Sympathizers can fake their work. You probably glossed over that when catching up, certainly can't blame you for missing a few things

[Glengoyne]

Glen, I'm pretty sure Abe said the wolves could fake their work and if not we all have been working off that assumption all game long, so I don't think saying that means anything.

Well if that is the case, I'll stop patting myself on the back, and retract my snide comment to Dubb.

I thought there was some conjecture on that point, but didn't think that Abe had stated it.

[dubb93]

fuck this, two people on me know I'm not a wolf. They have both counted on my work going through. You guys are either potential wolfs or villagers knowing you aren't helping.

Unwork Gladhandling

If you think I'm a wolf quit counting on my work. It's like saying "I want rid of Dubb even though I know he's a villager so I'll count on his work getting done."

Vote Jeheinz

[Barkeep49]

I need to know where to work. I should have had oodles of free time today, but instead have not had three seconds to myself since 7 AM. Please tell me where to work.

[Poli]

BK, do oratory. Knock yourself out.

*this is not an official proclamation for you to do said work.

[Barkeep49]

work oratory

[Danny]

I'm still holding my vote for the moment, but there still is the best case against Dubb, so my vote will likely be headed there too.

[Barkeep49]

Pretty sure I posted this a lot lot earlier, but

Vote dubb

[Danny]

Vote Dubb

[Danny]

I think that makes it 5-2-1-1 since I'm pretty sure Barkeep voted earlier.

[claphamsa]

wow, thats a lot of votes on dubb..... he seems the same as last game... he was good then right? certainly is entertaining :P

[Danny]

wow, thats a lot of votes on dubb..... he seems the same as last game... he was good then right? certainly is entertaining :P

I think almost all the votes are from people who have been cleared or scanned as good (other than me)

[dubb93]

I think almost all the votes are from people who have been cleared or scanned as good (other than me)

I actually think you have ass backwards. The correct way of saying it would have been the only cleared person to vote me is Barkeep. Every that is clear except Barkeep is voting elsewhere.

[dubb93]

Dubb - Barkeep, PB, Glen, Heinz, USFL, Danny (6)
PB - EF, Lathum (2)
Clap - Poli (1)
Jeheinz - Dubb (1)

[dubb93]

Vote Danny for Mr. Misinformation

[Chief Rum]

I am of half of a mind to vote for dubb out of spite, because he's being a complete tool right now.

That said, his play reminds me of when I am annoyed at not being a wolf and yet targeted for uncertain reasons.

So I am going to throw my vote on PB and see what develops from a closer vote.

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

Oh, and if, dubb, you keep your work off through the deadline and you're a villager, I will make it my goal to see you voted out first in every game we play together.

[Danny]

Vote Danny for Mr. Misinformation

Thank you for the current vote list. Obviously I was not correct.

[Danny]

So we're at 6-3 now with Dubb able to switch off and make it 6-4.

Yet to vote looks to be NTN, The Norm, DaddyTorgo, Lathum and Render

[dubb93]

So we're at 6-3 now with Dubb able to switch off and make it 6-4.

Yet to vote looks to be NTN, The Norm, DaddyTorgo, Lathum and Render

Lathum already voted and I believe Norm said he most likely will not be back by deadline.

[EagleFan]

As of 2116:

Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), TheNorm (2091) (9/10)
Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum x3 (2023) (9/10)
Gladhandling: claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952) (6/10)
Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo (1946), Glengoyne (1996), Barkeep49 (2106) (6/10)


PurdueBrad 3 - EagleFan (1915). Lathum (2059), Chief Rum (2116)
dubb93 6 - Barkeep49 (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1988), jeheinz72 (2084), USFLTecmo (2097), Danny (2109)
claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034)
jeheinz72 1 - dubb93 (2103)

no work order: ntndeacon, dubb93

no vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, TheNorm, DaddyTorgo, RendeR

[EagleFan]

Crazy theory... dubb and PB are wolves and PB is the cunning. dubb trying to draw the heat hoping PB gets scanned and cleared?

dubb certainly isn't helping his arguement with his "if I can't play I'm taking my stuff and going home" attitude.

What is the deal with people and these tantrums lately? It's a freaking game. If it's just a ploy as a wolf that's one thing but if it's a serious tantrum by a villager being voted against that is pretty sad. You do realize that you still win with the village if you are voted out? In fact the village could learn somthing by you getting voted out as a villager but not i you brin on the heat yourself by acting like that.

[Danny]

Regardless of the lynch, I think we are looking strong on the work we are doing. Just keep in mind an arrest is likely to come tomorrow, so we'll have to factor that in. Assuming Dubb and NTN do work on Oratory and glad handling split we have

Patrolling 9
Food Distribution 9
Gladhandling 7
Oratory 7

I don't see anyone faking today.

Then tomorrow assuming they arrest let's say Claphamsa and they night kill EagleFan. That means we could have CR and Torgo on Patrolling, will surely finish it off. Then we can have Lathum and myself on Food dist which will finish that off.

Then we will have Jeheinz, Glen, BK, NTN on Gladhandling which unless there are two wolves will finish if off.

Then on oratory we can have PB, Render, Poli and USFL which gives likely enough to finish there even if someone fakes.

This is meant to lay it out, who exactly goes where can be changed.

The biggest risk to our work is if PB is bad. And that's one reason why I don't mind lynching Dubb over him. If he is bad, it will at least keep him from faking work today or outing himself for sure.

[Danny]

I don't see anyone faking today.


Except if he is the wolf

[Danny]

Dubb that is

[EagleFan]

Regardless of the lynch, I think we are looking strong on the work we are doing. Just keep in mind an arrest is likely to come tomorrow, so we'll have to factor that in. Assuming Dubb and NTN do work on Oratory and glad handling split we have

Patrolling 9
Food Distribution 9
Gladhandling 7
Oratory 7

I don't see anyone faking today.

Then tomorrow assuming they arrest let's say Claphamsa and they night kill EagleFan. That means we could have CR and Torgo on Patrolling, will surely finish it off. Then we can have Lathum and myself on Food dist which will finish that off.

Then we will have Jeheinz, Glen, BK, NTN on Gladhandling which unless there are two wolves will finish if off.

Then on oratory we can have PB, Render, Poli and USFL which gives likely enough to finish there even if someone fakes.

This is meant to lay it out, who exactly goes where can be changed.

The biggest risk to our work is if PB is bad. And that's one reason why I don't mind lynching Dubb over him. If he is bad, it will at least keep him from faking work today or outing himself for sure.

Don't go giving them ideas... :)

Actually, they can bring it. I'm prepared byaches!!!!!! :D

[RendeR]

I'm torn.

I know exactly how frustrating it is when someone gets a run going on me when I'm a villager and I can't offer anything substantial to slow it down, so on that count I understand precisely why Dubb would act this way.

On the other hand, this is PRECISELY how I would act if I were a wolf caught in the noose.

Whats the issue on PB? I mean other than his name is PB and he's always a good vote?

[Lathum]

Why isn't Dubb voting PB?

[Glengoyne]

I think almost all the votes are from people who have been cleared or scanned as good (other than me)

I'm sure Dubb has pointed this out, but I'm certainly not cleared. I was looking for a place to put my vote, and I don't see any candidate as good as Dubb. The case wasn't iron clad, but I've not seen anything better.

I earlier asked if the case against PB could be laid out to be as strong as Dubb's, but I haven't seen that. So I'm stuck with my vote where it is.

[dubb93]

Why isn't Dubb voting PB?

PB isn't my top choice. Still time before deadline, I will switch if I must.

[dubb93]

Crazy theory... dubb and PB are wolves and PB is the cunning. dubb trying to draw the heat hoping PB gets scanned and cleared?


No, I want scanned. I'm not a wolf.

[dubb93]

Work Gladhandling

[dubb93]

Would it be smart if one of the people who is just a x1 to finish off gladhanding today?

As it stands, we'd be 9/10 heading into tomorrow. If the wolves do somehow know this is endgame, it's completely possible that faking that one point would be worth outing a wolf.

Just brainstorming.

This is after he voted me.

[Danny]

Unvote Dubb
Vote PurdueBrad

Lets see what happens

[ntndeacon]

Work Oratory

[Lathum]

PB isn't my top choice. Still time before deadline, I will switch if I must.

can you lay out your case for Heinze?

[Danny]

PurdueBrad 4 - EagleFan (1915). Lathum (2059), Chief Rum (2116), Danny
dubb93 5 - Barkeep49 (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1988), jeheinz72 (2084), USFLTecmo (2097),
claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034)
jeheinz72 1 - dubb93 (2103)

no vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, TheNorm, DaddyTorgo, RendeR

As of 2116:

Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), TheNorm (2091) (9/10)
Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum x3 (2023) (9/10)
Gladhandling: claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952), Dubb (7/10)
Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo (1946), Glengoyne (1996), Barkeep49 (2106), NTN (7/10)

[dubb93]

can you lay out your case for Heinze?

He came in after our spat and voted me. Then he made the post about 9/10 gladhandling today, which is the post that pissed me off and made me unwork gladhandling. Was almost like he knows I'm good.

[Danny]

Dubb, you're a x3 gladhandler?

[dubb93]

Someone lay out the case against PB or link me to it. Coming into today b/f all the blow ups I was thinking DT, but re-reading his posts today I think he reads more good than bad.

[dubb93]

Dubb, you're a x3 gladhandler?

Yes.

[Danny]

I'm almost tempted to say we let both PB and Dubb live because of the importance of completing this mission and they are both x3. This puts them in a position of outing themselves or putting in some work.

[Danny]

In fact, I think that's a good strategy

Unvote PurdueBrad


I saw we lynch someone today who is not x3 on a job we need.

[ntndeacon]

I can't really tell between the leading two candidates to be voted off who is more likely to be a sympathizer. So this is a little off of gut and reactions.
Vote Purdue Brad

[RendeR]

I'm almost tempted to say we let both PB and Dubb live because of the importance of completing this mission and they are both x3. This puts them in a position of outing themselves or putting in some work.


This thought crossed my mind, but that nagging "get the wolf NOW" thing keeps yelling at me.

[Danny]

I think with our recent failings, we really need to complete this mission.

[dubb93]

I will agree, if PB is a villager losing him hurts more than losing me. Gladhandling should be pretty well done and PB could finish up Oratory tomarrow. Is he our only orator left?

[DaddyTorgo]

Crazy theory... dubb and PB are wolves and PB is the cunning. dubb trying to draw the heat hoping PB gets scanned and cleared?

dubb certainly isn't helping his arguement with his "if I can't play I'm taking my stuff and going home" attitude.

What is the deal with people and these tantrums lately? It's a freaking game. If it's just a ploy as a wolf that's one thing but if it's a serious tantrum by a villager being voted against that is pretty sad. You do realize that you still win with the village if you are voted out? In fact the village could learn somthing by you getting voted out as a villager but not i you brin on the heat yourself by acting like that.

+1

It's one thing to be frustrated and campaign against getting lynched if you have another candidate. It's another to take your ball and go home IMHO.

I'm catching up, but leaning towards making it closer and voting PB at least for now

[dubb93]

In fact, I think that's a good strategy

Unvote PurdueBrad


I saw we lynch someone today who is not x3 on a job we need.

Villagers that are x3 will still complete their work for today.

[dubb93]

+1

It's one thing to be frustrated and campaign against getting lynched if you have another candidate. It's another to take your ball and go home IMHO.

I'm catching up, but leaning towards making it closer and voting PB at least for now

I never took my ball and went home.

[Danny]

Yes, but this is a two day mission

[Danny]

DT, keep in mind that if you vote PB that puts him tied with Dubb still to vote.

[dubb93]

Yes, but this is a two day mission

True enough. And Abe said for a fact that there will a day mission tomarrow.

[DaddyTorgo]

i think maybe danny's right - i don't want to lynch a X3 person on work that we need done if there are any better options

[EagleFan]

I'm almost tempted to say we let both PB and Dubb live because of the importance of completing this mission and they are both x3. This puts them in a position of outing themselves or putting in some work.

We're in a good enough position with the camps right about now, I would guess (there have been enough surprises in thi game so who knows).

If we seriously think they are wolves we need to go after them. The only legit reason to not vote them is if you don't think they are a wolf.

[PurdueBrad]

Crazy theory... dubb and PB are wolves and PB is the cunning. dubb trying to draw the heat hoping PB gets scanned and cleared?


Minus all the dubb crap, does anybody remember like five hours ago when I said that even if I come up good that EF was going to say I was a cunning wolf? Seriously, come on.

[Danny]

We're in a good enough position with the camps right about now, I would guess (there have been enough surprises in thi game so who knows).

If we seriously think they are wolves we need to go after them. The only legit reason to not vote them is if you don't think they are a wolf.

I'm not sure really.

[EagleFan]

i think maybe danny's right - i don't want to lynch a X3 person on work that we need done if there are any better options

Bad idea!!! Bad idea!!! The x3 shouldn't nmatter as much as going after a wolf. If he's a wolf and we get him now we have a chance to get the work done tomorrow with one less wolf to worry about.

If he's a villager we still get his x3 today and are still in great shape for tomorrow and we get some kind of vote hisotry to disect.

[EagleFan]

DT, are you a x3?

[EagleFan]

dola: at what you are on today that is.

[dubb93]

Minus all the dubb crap, does anybody remember like five hours ago when I said that even if I come up good that EF was going to say I was a cunning wolf? Seriously, come on.

Seeing as how EF is cleared I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

[PurdueBrad]

Seeing as how EF is cleared I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

It has to do with having tunnel vision.

[Glengoyne]

With two jobs almost done today. I think having a couple of x1 folks finish them off would be a good thing. Because tomorrow we don't want to have to have a whole bunch of padded votes to back up a faking wolf.

I'll move to finish of patrol.

Changing my work vote again.
work PATROL

[PurdueBrad]

And to answer somebody's question, yes, DT is a 3 at oratory. He and I are the two threes.

[claphamsa]

vote dubb

he seems eht most likely, but i dont really know :(

[Danny]

Then we do look good for work tomorrow and I feel more comfortable lynching a x3 person now.

[claphamsa]

I wish I had voted heize at 9 am, and then forgotten to log back on :P

[dubb93]

Yet another uncleared comes in and votes me.

[Glengoyne]

Allright,

I'm out until just before deadline(at least I hope I'm back before).

Just to justify changing work above. If we can polish off a category today, then we don't have to worry about doubling up a bunch of x1s tomorrow. I'd also go on record as saying that we may find ourselves in a position tomorrow where we consider abandoning the mission altogether. Although I guess Abe will have made it Juicy enough to lure us in.

[dubb93]

Dubb - Barkeep, Glen, Heinz, USFL, Danny, Clap (6)
PB - EF, Lathum, CR, NtN (4)
Clap - Poli (1)
Jeheinz - Dubb (1)

[EagleFan]

As of 2167:

Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), TheNorm (2091) (9/10)
Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum x3 (2023) (9/10)
Gladhandling: claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952), dubb93 (2131) (9/10)
Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo (1946), Glengoyne (1996), Barkeep49 (2106). ntndeacon (2134) (7/10)


PurdueBrad 4 - EagleFan (1915). Lathum (2059), Chief Rum (2116), ntndeacon (2143)
dubb93 6 - Barkeep49 (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1988), jeheinz72 (2084), USFLTecmo (2097), claphamsa (2164)
claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034)
jeheinz72 1 - dubb93 (2103)


no vote: TheNorm, DaddyTorgo, RendeR, Danny

[EagleFan]

I didn't change Glengoynes work order on my post as I didn't see an "unvote" on his other. Not sure how that is going to be handled.

[dubb93]

Unvote Heinz
Vote PB

Gotta do what I have to do to stay alive. My death today hurts the village.

[Danny]

Dubb - Barkeep, Glen, Heinz, USFL, Danny, Clap (6)
PB - EF, Lathum, CR, NtN (4)
Clap - Poli (1)
Jeheinz - Dubb (1)

My vote is not on you at the moment.

[dubb93]

I didn't change Glengoynes work order on my post as I didn't see an "unvote" on his other. Not sure how that is going to be handled.

I think getting them all to 9 today is the best play rather than getting a couple done and leaving bigger holes to fill tomarrow. BTW DT is x3 according to PB.

[dubb93]

My vote is not on you at the moment.

I erased you instead of PB. Mistake.

[dubb93]

Dubb - Barkeep, Glen, Heinz, USFL, PB, Clap (6)
PB - EF, Lathum, CR, NtN (4)
Clap - Poli (1)
Jeheinz - Dubb (1)

[DaddyTorgo]

hmmm - not sure what to do with my vote. i don't get a huge wolfy vibe from dubb or PB...hmm

[dubb93]

Poli, your chief suspect came in and voted me. Think about it.

[Lathum]

ypu missed your own unvote and vote

Dubb - Barkeep, Glen, Heinz, USFL, PB, Clap (6)
PB - EF, Lathum, CR, NtN, Dubb (5)
Clap - Poli (1)

[PurdueBrad]

hmmm - not sure what to do with my vote. i don't get a huge wolfy vibe from dubb or PB...hmm

Well then I'll ask, do you have a vibe from anybody?

[claphamsa]

Well then I'll ask, do you have a vibe from anybody?
I dont :)

[DaddyTorgo]

Well then I'll ask, do you have a vibe from anybody?

not really.

been pretty disconnected from the game TBH I guess. :(

[Danny]

I really don't either actually. I used up my vibe power already.

[Danny]

Vote PurdueBrad

[Poli]

Danny that sounds just like that game when we were wolves together.

[Danny]

Danny that sounds just like that game when we were wolves together.

What does?

[Poli]

I really don't either actually. I used up my vibe power already.
This

[Danny]

This

Hopefully a lot of what I am posting sounds like it did when we were wolves.

[Danny]

But in fairness, the two players I had vibes about were Jackal and CR. One was right, one likely wrong.

[Lathum]

not really.

been pretty disconnected from the game TBH I guess. :(

Part of it is the game set up. Not to sound overly critical but the wolves to my knowledge haven't had to fake and work, seems to kind of defeat the purpose.

[Lathum]

Part of it is the game set up. Not to sound overly critical but the wolves to my knowledge haven't had to fake any work, seems to kind of defeat the purpose.

fixed

[EagleFan]

It has to do with having tunnel vision.

Fill my eyes, with that tunnel vision,
no disguise, from that tunnel vision
Ohh, we're talking bout PB, he's always so furry
My tunnel vision always sees it's PB

[Danny]

As of 2190:

PurdueBrad 6 - EagleFan (1915). Lathum (2059), Chief Rum (2116), ntndeacon (2143), Dubb (2172), Danny (2184)
dubb93 6 - Barkeep49 (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1988), jeheinz72 (2084), USFLTecmo (2097), claphamsa (2164)
claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034)

no vote: TheNorm, DaddyTorgo, RendeR

[DaddyTorgo]

that and the fact i've been real busy at work and this weekend. i've been staying caught up, but haven't had a ton of time to like...think, ya know?

[Poli]

Wow, this is going to be one fun night.

[Danny]

Definitely, did Abe say what the result of a tie is?

[PurdueBrad]

Wow, this is going to be one fun night.

-1

[EagleFan]

As of 2167:

Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), TheNorm (2091) (9/10)
Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum x3 (2023) (9/10)
Gladhandling: claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952), dubb93 (2131) (9/10)
Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo (1946), Glengoyne (1996), Barkeep49 (2106). ntndeacon (2134) (7/10)


PurdueBrad 6 - EagleFan (1915). Lathum (2059), Chief Rum (2116), ntndeacon (2143), dubb93 (2172), Danny (2184)
dubb93 6 - Barkeep49 (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1988), jeheinz72 (2084), USFLTecmo (2097), claphamsa (2164)
claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034)


no vote: TheNorm, DaddyTorgo, RendeR

[Danny]

Going to put in another load of laundry, I'll be back for the deadline action

[EagleFan]

As of 2198:

Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), TheNorm (2091) (9/10)
Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum x3 (2023) (9/10)
Gladhandling: claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952), dubb93 (2131) (9/10)
Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo x3 (1946), Glengoyne (1996), Barkeep49 (2106). ntndeacon (2134) (9/10)


PurdueBrad 6 - EagleFan (1915). Lathum (2059), Chief Rum (2116), ntndeacon (2143), dubb93 (2172), Danny (2184)
dubb93 6 - Barkeep49 (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1988), jeheinz72 (2084), USFLTecmo (2097), claphamsa (2164)
claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034)


no vote: TheNorm, DaddyTorgo, RendeR

[Lathum]

Poli- I see you lurking, are you considering changing your vote?

[EagleFan]

Sorry, forgot to add DT's multipler that first one.

[Lathum]

Going to put in another load of laundry, I'll be back for the deadline action

aren't you married?

[Poli]

I might, depends on the circumstance. I still don't believe clap is providing us anything.

[claphamsa]

not really.

been pretty disconnected from the game TBH I guess. :(


tbh?

[claphamsa]

Hopefully a lot of what I am posting sounds like it did when we were wolves.
are you saying you are a wolf?

[claphamsa]

Definitely, did Abe say what the result of a tie is?
that would be good to know...

[Abe Sargent]

Definitely, did Abe say what the result of a tie is?

No, I did not

[EagleFan]

I do have to say, this has been a much different Lathum than I remember. Usually you have caused some sort of stir by the time we are a week into a game. ;)

Of course wth over 2200 posts in this game already it's possible that I missed it.

[claphamsa]

aren't you married?


says the homemaker :D

[claphamsa]

I might, depends on the circumstance. I still don't believe clap is providing us anything.


never claimed to be.....

[Abe Sargent]

The Catholic Bishop (Bishop Frank) in charge of much of WV begins to find the strikers and unionists. “It is the function of the Church to get some of these horrible ideas worked out of them (the miners) like whiskey or beer are worked out of a man at Carlsbad. “ “I would make them all go to Church twice on Sunday.” Later he says that he would force the miners to hang the Beatitudes and memorize them. He refers to the coal operators as good people - “Our Lord does not say Blessed are the poor, but Blessed are the poor in spirit.”

[claphamsa]

I do have to say, this has been a much different Lathum than I remember. Usually you have caused some sort of stir by the time we are a week into a game. ;)

Of course wth over 2200 posts in this game already it's possible that I missed it.
i think hes been cleared as well.....

OMG HES THE DUNNING!!!!!

[dubb93]

I might, depends on the circumstance. I still don't believe clap is providing us anything.

Except a lynch vote on me.

[claphamsa]

No, I did not
lame, thats the kind of thin I would do!

[Lathum]

says the homemaker :D

I am far from a homemaker

[EagleFan]

i think hes been cleared as well.....

OMG HES THE DUNNING!!!!!

He's Debbie Dunning?

[Lathum]

I do have to say, this has been a much different Lathum than I remember. Usually you have caused some sort of stir by the time we are a week into a game. ;)

Of course wth over 2200 posts in this game already it's possible that I missed it.

there really hasn't been a chance to, it's just been a weird game. Plus I has 2 mid terms last week so I wasn't as active as usual.

[claphamsa]

He's Debbie Dunning?
who?

[dubb93]

who?

Lathum, so says you.

[EagleFan]

there really hasn't been a chance to, it's just been a weird game. Plus I has 2 mid terms last week so I wasn't as active as usual.

mid terms? I guess you are younger than I thought. How did you do?

[Danny]

are you saying you are a wolf?

I meant I think I did a pretty good job playing like I normally do when I was a wolf.

[Abe Sargent]

who?

Brunette, tool time chick in show with Al and tim.

[dubb93]

Mid terms in may? Colleges around here are having finals this week.

[claphamsa]

Lathum, so says you.
actually I mean debbie dunning.... I dont know who that is, and I dont feel like googling it :)

[Lathum]

mid terms? I guess you are younger than I thought. How did you do?

not really, I'm 34 and making a career change, so I am the creepy old guy at school.

I think I did well, should find out both grades tomorrow.

[Danny]

aren't you married?

lol, yes I am married. My wife is hard at work while I am home to do laundry! I am also at home to do school work and play werewolf, so it all works out :)

[EagleFan]

Brunette, tool time chick in show with Al and tim.

You forgot to add... VERY HOT!!!!

Of course now that Lathum may be her that may change my opinion.... :devil:

[claphamsa]

not really, I'm 34 and making a career change, so I am the creepy old guy at school.

I think I did well, should find out both grades tomorrow.
I got called a creepy old man for the first time when I was an 18 year old.....

[Lathum]

Mid terms in may? Colleges around here are having finals this week.

University of Washington has quarters instead of semesters so the academic calender is a little different.

[claphamsa]

You forgot to add... VERY HOT!!!!

Of course now that Lathum may be her that may change my opinion.... :devil:
ok, time to google

[DaddyTorgo]

hmmm - well everyone's here - let's see if there's any action

[EagleFan]

not really, I'm 34 and making a career change, so I am the creepy old guy at school.

I think I did well, should find out both grades tomorrow.

Good luck. Thinking about doing that thing too, but probably online so I can stay in current job until then (hopefully).

What are you studying?

[dubb93]

University of Washington has quarters instead of semesters so the academic calender is a little different.

Ah. So no summer break I take it? That's a bummer.

[Lathum]

We all learned last week tool time means something totally different for me.

[Glengoyne]

I didn't change Glengoynes work order on my post as I didn't see an "unvote" on his other. Not sure how that is going to be handled.

Rookie Move. I'll address that.

unwork oratory
work patrol

This is just to make sure.

[EagleFan]

ok, time to google

Actually I haven't seen anything of her for a while so I hope she's still hot. It's been a few years since the show was on.

[Danny]

Ah. So no summer break I take it? That's a bummer.

I don't get a summer break in my program either. Our semester ends May 12th (technically later, but our professors give us our finals early, so we at least get a couple weeks break), then we start back up May 26th, then we go all the way intil August 18th and then fall semester starts a few days later.

[Barkeep49]

Do I need to do anything? I'm going to catch up on today's events now but want to make sure there's no deadline business I should know about.

[Lathum]

Good luck. Thinking about doing that thing too, but probably online so I can stay in current job until then (hopefully).

What are you studying?

thanks, history. Going to be a teacher

Ah. So no summer break I take it? That's a bummer.

yeah there is, quarters are from Jan-March, March-June, June-August, Oct-Dec.

[Danny]

thanks, history. Going to be a teacher


We have a lot of people in or going into education here in WW.

[Lathum]

so are we still tied, if so I think that needs to be rectified.

[dubb93]

Do I need to do anything? I'm going to catch up on today's events now but want to make sure there's no deadline business I should know about.

Me and PB are tied in the vote.

[Danny]

so are we still tied, if so I think that needs to be rectified.

Render and DT still have not voted.

[Abe Sargent]

You forgot to add... VERY HOT!!!!

Of course now that Lathum may be her that may change my opinion.... :devil:

Your opinion of Lathum?

[Barkeep49]

Me and PB are tied in the vote.
Well then I'll announce. I'm the tie breaker too.

[dubb93]

I'm disappointed Poli thinks Clap is a wolf and yet is willing to let him come in late and influence the vote. Very disappointing Poli.

[Barkeep49]

What's the case against PB?

[Glengoyne]

Come on folks. No ties. Let's do this one way or the other.

That said, I'm out till after the break. I've got dinner and a family waiting at the table.

[dubb93]

What's the case against PB?

The fact that everyone who isn't cleared voted for me? And that you are the only cleared villager to vote for me?