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ntndeacon
07-13-2011, 11:39 AM
Duke attacks Thursday
Playing a hunch. Not really based on anything other than his lack of participation (I know that is normal but for some reason it seems like he is being even quieter than normal, if that is possible). With all the characters being role-played in this game it seems that it could be easy for an UTR wolf to hide for a while.
Well the Gorilla babysitter was a little late this week, which made it hard to go out and socialize with all of you folks. Mrs. Bradshaw finally made it. Now my only worry on that end is my boy Friday swinging on the curtains.
OOC/Yea I get that. at least it isn't on day one like I normally get.
PackerFanatic
07-13-2011, 12:47 PM
Alright guys, I was going to hold out a little bit to see what would happen with votes and all that today, but I feel I gotta get this information out before risking anything else. I attacked Mario yesterday and, after defeating him, I received a scan ability. I decided to scan CrimsonFox (as I feel he is a pretty good player who had some discussion the past couple of days) and lo and behold - he turned up as a wolf! I do NOT have another scan left, as that was a one-time deal from defeating Mario.
PackerFanatic
07-13-2011, 12:48 PM
JACK BAUER ATTACKS MAD HATTER
And remember, he has two characters left, so we have to make sure we split our attacks enough to get them both.
The Jackal
07-13-2011, 12:50 PM
Well there's one of those nuggets I was talking about! I tend to believe PF at this point.
KEYSER SOZE ATTACKS MAD HATTER
EagleFan
07-13-2011, 12:50 PM
I see 4 targets right about now...
dubb - he has the potentially strongest mix of characters as a multiple character person; it only makes sense for the wolves to go after a multiple early. Why leave a villager around that could be a bother by the end of the game. With him having the potentially greatest threat to them it would make sense that he is an early target.
BK - Seems to have come out against my reasoning for the day one wolf kill awfully quickly.
Autumn - Not 100% sold yet but something smells a little fishy. Cunning trying to gain trust?
ntn - As I said, much quieter than normal in a game where being quiet the first couple days can help keep the village confused.
As always, just food for thought. The whole character thing may be clouding my judgement though.
Maybe I will try ot put together something that looks like a "voting" grid later this evening. See if that helps with any of the confusion.
EagleFan
07-13-2011, 12:51 PM
Wellk done PF, saw that after my long writeup. :)
EagleFan
07-13-2011, 12:52 PM
unattack Thursday Next
Attack March Hare
Autumn
07-13-2011, 12:57 PM
Does anyone have a current vote count? I don't see any particular reason not to believe PF unless there was a wolf getting a lot of heat at the moment.
CF hasn't been pinging me, but then again when he's a villager he usually attacks me mercilessly, so maybe he should be pinging me. I'll gladly move my votes to CF, I've got four I can spread between his characters.
EagleFan
07-13-2011, 12:58 PM
With this information I would actually replace Autumn with CF in my list. Still not 100% sold on him but I can't get my theory out of my head about the multiple characters. In that theory it points to dubb moreso than Autumn as with Autumn losing 2 characters early he is less of a threat to the wolves so not as high priority of a target early.
Zinto
07-13-2011, 01:01 PM
Does anyone have a current vote count? I don't see any particular reason not to believe PF unless there was a wolf getting a lot of heat at the moment.
CF hasn't been pinging me, but then again when he's a villager he usually attacks me mercilessly, so maybe he should be pinging me. I'll gladly move my votes to CF, I've got four I can spread between his characters.
Only you and Eagle had voted yet so there probably wasn't too much pressure on a wolf unless the wolf is DT.
Autumn
07-13-2011, 01:01 PM
I think that Mad Hatter must be hurt somewhat from Hulk's attack ...
KERMIT UNATTACKS MRS. DOUBTFIRE
PROFESSOR HONEYDEW UNATTACKS MRS. DOUBTFIRE
ANIMAL UNATTACKS ATHENA
SWEDISH CHEF UNATTACKS ATHENA
KERMIT ATTACKS MARCH HARE
PROFESSOR HONEYDEW ATTACKS MARCH HARE
ANIMAL ATTACKS MARCH HARE
SWEDISH CHEF ATTACKS MAD HATTER
Melisandre attacks The March Hare
Well done PF. If you aren't lying. :)
Autumn
07-13-2011, 01:03 PM
I really don't know why yo'ure harping on this multiple character thing, EF. A character like the Hulk is going to be much harder to get out of the game than my Muppets. And the wolves are going to go after the best villagers, like they do in any game. You're pushing yourself up in my ?? list every time you post.
Autumn
07-13-2011, 01:03 PM
Only you and Eagle had voted yet so there probably wasn't too much pressure on a wolf unless the wolf is DT.
Seriously? Two o'clock and we only had two votes? That's crazy.
Zinto
07-13-2011, 01:04 PM
Awesome scan Packer. It would have been hard to get a read on Crimson since he is extremely good at role playing. Also it looks like Chubby did us a favor when Cookie Monster went on the offensive.
Dwight uses a standard attack against the Mad Hatter
Zinto
07-13-2011, 01:06 PM
Seriously? Two o'clock and we only had two votes? That's crazy.
Yep it has been a slow day so far. Not a lot of paper being pushed and I need to be selling paper so I can be the top sales man again.
Autumn
07-13-2011, 01:08 PM
PackerFan's scan could also be a move to gain trust down the line. With CF damaged and voting history hardly useful they might have decided it'd be worth losing a wolf to make PF golden.
The Jackal
07-13-2011, 01:10 PM
PackerFan's scan could also be a move to gain trust down the line. With CF damaged and voting history hardly useful they might have decided it'd be worth losing a wolf to make PF golden.
Yes, we'll have to deal with that at some point, he goes in the "lean towards trust" column with you and Chubby. Chances are a wolf is going to announce a scan on a villager or another wolf at least once, but for the next couple of days there will certainly be better options.
Tyrith
07-13-2011, 01:11 PM
I'm actually open to moving this later, depending on how hard we think CF will be to kill, but given the nature of the game overkill is probably our friend.
STANDARD ATTACK MAD HATTER
Looking back at the D1+D2 voting:
*
Voted by CF:
D1:* MIMITW (1/3 char), Muppets (2/3 chars)
D2: Cookie Monster (1/2 char), Mrs. Doubtfire (1/2 char)
*
Voted for CF:
D1: Super Grover (Chubby)
D2: (none)
Raises up Autumn and Chubby in my view.
ntndeacon
07-13-2011, 01:13 PM
That makes things pretty straight forward today.
Standard Attacks March Hare
Danny
07-13-2011, 01:15 PM
Going to be out until about a half hour before deadline. If someone can keep track of the attacks for me, that would be a big help.
Autumn
07-13-2011, 01:16 PM
Going to be out until about a half hour before deadline. If someone can keep track of the attacks for me, that would be a big help.
Not it!
Danny
07-13-2011, 01:17 PM
Thanks Autumn!
ntndeacon
07-13-2011, 01:18 PM
I think the attacks are....
Mad Hatter---A bunch
March Hare --- A Bunch
ntndeacon
07-13-2011, 01:20 PM
I see 4 targets right about now...
dubb - he has the potentially strongest mix of characters as a multiple character person; it only makes sense for the wolves to go after a multiple early. Why leave a villager around that could be a bother by the end of the game. With him having the potentially greatest threat to them it would make sense that he is an early target.
BK - Seems to have come out against my reasoning for the day one wolf kill awfully quickly.
Autumn - Not 100% sold yet but something smells a little fishy. Cunning trying to gain trust?
ntn - As I said, much quieter than normal in a game where being quiet the first couple days can help keep the village confused.
As always, just food for thought. The whole character thing may be clouding my judgement though.
Maybe I will try ot put together something that looks like a "voting" grid later this evening. See if that helps with any of the confusion.
As much as I hate to cull your list down Eagle since I appear on it. Wouldn't Cunning be only a won thing... I mean most of the villager roles are.
PackerFan's scan could also be a move to gain trust down the line. With CF damaged and voting history hardly useful they might have decided it'd be worth losing a wolf to make PF golden.
Other than the original, and the first three Super Marios, I haven't followed any recent incarnations of Mario. Does it make sense his reward would be a scan? I don't know that reward is tied to the character, but Samwise as BG made perfect sense. For Mario, I would think something like a power-up to att/def or health would make more sense. So while I at first dismissed your thought, I'm now giving it more thought.
Still, there wasn't much pressure on either at this point, so I don't know how much weight to give that.
PackerFanatic
07-13-2011, 01:23 PM
I knew that was going to come up JAG, and I really have no answer for it.
Zinto
07-13-2011, 01:24 PM
I am not really sure why Packer would sacrifice himself just to get rid of Crimson. In my opinion there is no way a wolf makes this move in this situation, where if DT ends up being a villager then they are sitting pretty.
Zinto
07-13-2011, 01:26 PM
Packer could be a wolf looking for trust but why sacrifice Crimson who has no pressure on him yet. The only reason to do so is if the wolves decided that Crimson was going to be one of the main lynch targets today and even then wouldn't make sense to wait for that to develop. While Packer could be a wolf in my opinion he is the most trusted person right now.
dubb93
07-13-2011, 01:34 PM
I think EF is way up the wrong tree as far as multiples go. Without knowing what other people with single characters have I have exactly 11 HP, 2 Attack, and 2 Defense(with the possibility of this actually being 4 depending on circumstances) between ALL THREE of my "super powerful" coalition here. I would MUCH rather have one super powerful character than 3 weaklings in hindsight.
Also Autumn's muppets seem to die by just single attacks.
dubb93
07-13-2011, 01:36 PM
I have exactly 11 HP, 2 Attack, and 2 Defense(with the possibility of this actually being 4 depending on circumstances) between ALL THREE of my "super powerful" coalition here.
Bump to make sure no one misses this. This is not each, this is all three combined.
Schmidty
07-13-2011, 01:37 PM
HULK SMASH!!
Hulk attacks Mad Hatter
Autumn
07-13-2011, 01:41 PM
Also Autumn's muppets seem to die by just single attacks.
Way to rub it in.
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 02:22 PM
Seems like an easy decision today.
Athena attacks March Hare
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 02:22 PM
Also as a service to our GM and others:
Mad Hatter - Jack Bauer, Keyser Soze, Swedish Chef, Dwight, Nelson, Hulk
March Hare - Duke, Kermit, Professor Honeydew, Animal, Melisandre, Thursday, Athena
dubb93
07-13-2011, 02:25 PM
I'm caught between a rock and a hard place today. Either I vote for Hatter/Hare, who by all accounts are wolves and waste my special ability I started yesterday on Tyrith or I continue to go that route and hope we have enough on Hatter/Hare to finish both off.
In the interest of disclosure I'm fairly sure Tyrith is bad. I used my special ability to inflict more damage on his yesterday during my attack. If I don't keep the pressure on him today with more attacks then he will heal the extra damage I did.
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 02:28 PM
I'm caught between a rock and a hard place today. Either I vote for Hatter/Hare, who by all accounts are wolves and waste my special ability I started yesterday on Tyrith or I continue to go that route and hope we have enough on Hatter/Hare to finish both off.
In the interest of disclosure I'm fairly sure Tyrith is bad. I used my special ability to inflict more damage on his yesterday during my attack. If I don't keep the pressure on him today with more attacks then he will heal the extra damage I did.
Because of the ability for multiple people & characters to die this does create an interesting scenario. That said I'm not quite sure I understand your dilemma. Can you try explaining your power again?
dubb93
07-13-2011, 02:31 PM
Because of the ability for multiple people & characters to die this does create an interesting scenario. That said I'm not quite sure I understand your dilemma. Can you try explaining your power again?
I have nothing concrete on Tyrith because of my ability. It is simply a strong feeling I have.
My ability was for each of my characters to use a wrestling move to inflict double damage once in the game. I used them on Tyrith yesterday, so I know he is hurting. Maybe not <20% hurt, but he is hurting. If I stop attacking him again today then he fully recovers then I've wasted my ability for double damage.
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 02:41 PM
Ok that makes sense now dubb. I personally don't have a problem with you voting other than on Mad/March, as we don't need everyone to vote them to still have the effect of removing a wolf from the game. Ideally we want just enough to kill both characters, of course not knowing what that number is, it is difficult to say to how we should spread our votes. But a couple people already think I'm a wolf so I don't know how much my opinion matters.
Lathum
07-13-2011, 02:47 PM
ok, so each night I can use a spell and based on the spell I get a special ability the bext dat. Today my attack is extra strong so I can either use it to pile on CF or ga a different direction. Thoughts?
I agree we probably don't need everyone on CF as we know one of his chars is hurt and together they probably don't combine for more than 8-9 current hps, so I don't have a problem going after other targets as well.
PackerFanatic
07-13-2011, 02:54 PM
I think with the amount of attacks we have right now, we should have no problem taking him down, so if people think they have leads on the other wolves, by all means pursue them.
PackerFanatic
07-13-2011, 02:54 PM
dola - and we especially don't want to be wasting important villager attacks if we can avoid it :)
mckerney
07-13-2011, 02:56 PM
You find tiny wolfman?
http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/15/19318000/ngbbs4a2c4215dcb01.jpg
RUN COWARD!
mckerney
07-13-2011, 02:58 PM
What! I get to tiny wolfman and you're already killing him? Now who do I have to shoot?
http://www.kwanzoo.com/social-trivia/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/picture-194.png
PackerFanatic
07-13-2011, 03:02 PM
I had thought about torturing CrimsonFox. Very slowly, very painfully. But then I figured he didn't deserve my time - so a quick bullet the brain ought to do the trick.
Lathum
07-13-2011, 03:06 PM
standard attack horation nelson
I'm gonna go with Dubbs hunches here, but I admitedly am a little nervous about his coalition of wrestlers. At some point it is going to be hard to split that up.
FYI- this attack will count for extra, I do not know how much.
Chubby
07-13-2011, 03:10 PM
well this makes it easy today, nice find PF!!!
Super Grover 2.0 attacks March Hare
Oscar the Grouch attacks Mad Hatter
Chubby
07-13-2011, 03:11 PM
Super Grover 2.0 attacks March Hare
Oscar the Grouch attacks Mad Hatter
bah forgot to bold
Autumn
07-13-2011, 03:12 PM
I think I could count on zero hands the amount of times I've seen Lathum follow someone else's vote and hunch like that. Following it immediately by some worry cast Dubb's way? That's a classic wolf move.
EagleFan
07-13-2011, 03:17 PM
I think I could count on zero hands the amount of times I've seen Lathum follow someone else's vote and hunch like that. Following it immediately by some worry cast Dubb's way? That's a classic wolf move.
That is bothersome but Lathum is not a classic wolf, when he is a wolf, so usually when he makes a classic wolf move it means he is a villager. :)
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 03:19 PM
standard attack horation nelson
I'm gonna go with Dubbs hunches here, but I admitedly am a little nervous about his coalition of wrestlers. At some point it is going to be hard to split that up.
FYI- this attack will count for extra, I do not know how much.
I've been on the kill off multiple character bandwagon as loudly as anyone but am unsure how much weight that path deserves versus traditional wolf hunting.
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 03:21 PM
I think I could count on zero hands the amount of times I've seen Lathum follow someone else's vote and hunch like that. Following it immediately by some worry cast Dubb's way? That's a classic wolf move.
I actually read Lathum's actions very differently. I agree on the surface it's non-standard Lathum, but I actually think right below the surface it's classic Lathum and given what we know read the situation benignly.
Lathum
07-13-2011, 03:22 PM
shrug
I don't want to pile on the band wagon and am willing to give Dubb a chance. I think Autumn questioning me considering I've been seer scanned is a bit odd.
dubb93
07-13-2011, 03:29 PM
Alright, I'm going to hope we have enough on the wolf and go Tyrith.
Hulk Hogan Standard Attacks Admiral Nelson
Macho Man Standard Attacks Admiral Nelson
Miss Elizabeth Standard Attacks Admiral Nelson
dubb93
07-13-2011, 03:30 PM
but I admitedly am a little nervous about his coalition of wrestlers.
I posted exactly how strong they are. I feel they are actually weak. Are they really that much stronger than what you were given?
Honest question here for people. Is what I posted about my characters that much more powerful than what everyone else is working with?
dubb93
07-13-2011, 03:31 PM
I think I could count on zero hands the amount of times I've seen Lathum follow someone else's vote and hunch like that. Following it immediately by some worry cast Dubb's way? That's a classic wolf move.
I actually feel good that Lathum is going with me. He has been seer scanned and it makes me feel better about my hunch.
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 03:32 PM
I posted exactly how strong they are. I feel they are actually weak. Are they really that much stronger than what you were given?
Honest question here for people. Is what I posted about my characters that much more powerful than what everyone else is working with?
Your wrestlers, combined, are definitely more powerful than me.
The Jackal
07-13-2011, 03:37 PM
Your wrestlers, combined, are definitely more powerful than me.
Easily more powerful than me as well.
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 03:37 PM
Vote Count
Mad Hatter - Jack Bauer, Keyser Soze, Swedish Chef, Dwight, Nelson, Hulk, Oscar the Grouch
March Hare - Duke, Kermit, Professor Honeydew, Animal, Melisandre, Thursday, Athena, Super Grover
Nelson - Harry Potter, Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, Miss Elizabeth
Chubby
07-13-2011, 03:38 PM
Your wrestlers, combined, are definitely more powerful than me.
this
Zinto
07-13-2011, 03:42 PM
I will take the plunge on Tyrith also. I will move my vote back on the Mad Hatter if I think that Crimson might survive.
Dwight unattacks the Mad Hatter
Dwight attacks Admiral Nelson
Zinto
07-13-2011, 03:43 PM
Admiral Nelson while a great run has rubbed me a little oddly not as much as those Wrestlers but he is someone who has peeked my interest.
Autumn
07-13-2011, 03:49 PM
I have exactly 11 HP, 2 Attack, and 2 Defense between ALL THREE of my "super powerful" coalition here.
My guys have a very different proportion, but I would say your guys and mine are balanced.
Autumn
07-13-2011, 03:51 PM
this
You guys are remembering that this is combined totals, not per character, right?
Zinto
07-13-2011, 03:55 PM
I am going to assume my character is decently weak since he is from an office and has no physical ability to be honest and my character is only a little weaker then Dubbs
Chubby
07-13-2011, 03:55 PM
You guys are remembering that this is combined totals, not per character, right?
yes and i'm comparing to my original combined totals
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 04:10 PM
You guys are remembering that this is combined totals, not per character, right?
Indeed. I only control one character and she has 1 attack, period. So you have the ability to do twice as much damage each day as I do.
Tyrith
07-13-2011, 04:16 PM
Frankly, I don't have anything to dissuade you guys from killing me at this point. And I've played enough with dubb and Lathum to know that they're aren't going to change their votes. Nor should they, really, in this situation - unless I have a role, I'd rather the village stick to their guns usually. Just sucks that I'm getting taken down here. That's WW, though.
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 04:59 PM
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The march hare cocks his head and bounces before the proscenium.
If you allow, my good friends, I must impart a tale around the dirty red Italian I did meet.
I know for a fact that the Heavy man is wrong as it was I whom the Mario did greet.
And may if you will indulge, I will play tell you why he chose me when I interacted thus.
(he motions you all forward)
He bounces off his bottom then his ears then his feet.
When I greeted the mustacheod man, I bounced around and to and fro and one last time for good measure, then landed in front of him and shook his hand quite vigorously.
And what I did utter and why he so chose me was the following recitation I’ll impart to you
I said
[I]"Howdy do, good sir plumber
Did you ever think it would be dumber
To eat your mushrooms from the top
My caterpillar friend says you won't stop
Growing if you eat that way
Smaller you'll be on another day
If you eat the other side, you know
And take them with you on the go
My favorite mushroom is the one
With bright red speckles and sits in the sun
A mushroom casserole I do love
It gives me the bounce to rise above
The crowd below and you'll not see
A one that can jump higher than me
*pantpantpant*
Including yourself!”
And with that I wound my foot up so (he demonstrates) and stomped on the ground and hurled myself high into the sky over Mario and back again and back and forth ricocheting off the trees and ground over and over.
"Come on it's fun, “ I said, “Let’s run! Let's bounce the day away and compare trippy shroom stories. My favorite involves a disappearing cat and a dragon that talks backwards."
I landed on Mario's other side and put an arm around him and leaned in close to whisper (like I’m doing to you right now and added slyly… "And I heartell, (don't spread this around), but the blue turtle shell can be used to take out the leading opponent and is UNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN-NLOCKABLE!"
A friend I made of Mario
that likes the shrooms and bouncing so
And so for all my mushroom fun
He tipped his cap and gave me one.
The shroom does nothing like a scan
But saves me from an attacking man
It makes me grow and bumps stats too
To help give me another day with you
That lying filthy Packerderm
Is full of s— well something OTHER than mushrooms!
He’s a ….um…he’s a ….WORM!
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 05:02 PM
mad hatter Attack Jack bauer
march hare attack jack bauer
[Change my poem to antiterrorist man instead of heavy. I thought Packer was heavy. hard telling when no one else RPs]
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 05:09 PM
Vote Count
Mad Hatter - Jack Bauer, Keyser Soze, Swedish Chef, Dwight, Nelson, Hulk, Oscar the Grouch
March Hare - Duke, Kermit, Professor Honeydew, Animal, Melisandre, Thursday, Athena, Super Grover
Nelson - Harry Potter, Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, Miss Elizabeth
"WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!" shouts the hatter, "The Count isn't playing...Ah! Ah! Ah!"
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 05:16 PM
"WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!" shouts the hatter, "The Count isn't playing...Ah! Ah! Ah!"
Took me a few reads to figure this out, but it did make me laugh once I got it.
Lathum
07-13-2011, 05:23 PM
Indeed. I only control one character and she has 1 attack, period. So you have the ability to do twice as much damage each day as I do.
This is an aspect I hadn't thought of. My guy only has 1 attack power as well. It seems safe to assume those with multiple characters have way more combined power than that.
"WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!" shouts the hatter, "The Count isn't playing...Ah! Ah! Ah!"
Good one. Your RP is off the charts good too, perhaps the moderator will save you.
mauchow
07-13-2011, 06:12 PM
ooc: I left my phone at home today so I missed out on all the action today.
http://www.twoevilmonks.org/firefly/ffimages/season1/108/ff108014.jpg
We, too tried interacting with Mario. I had the perfect scheme set up to trap him and we failed. He was just too fast for us to catch. But I'd like to add that all three of us tried interacting with Mario and Hatter and Hare are just two while its Me, Mal and Zoe. I think we had a better shot at interacting than they did..
Some more food for thought if there is anybody wavering on the fence with this decision.
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 06:23 PM
The mad hatter and the march hare stand back to back and bob their knees up and down. They alternate their speech...
"The muppets and the goddess of beauty "
"seem to think that it's harder and/or easier"
"I'm really not sure"
"I've heard it both ways"
"Or maybe four"
"That those multiple characters controlled by one are harder to kill and should be taken out ..."
"Soooooooooooooooon"
"Rubbish and Poppycock!"
"Our friend the mouse died from a simple scratch"
"And funny thing about Gonzo you know"
"Is that the mouse did not hurt him nonono"
"His attack power was a round ZEEEEEEEEEERO"
"Meanwhile you have these ROTTEN STINKING PORKY FATFATFAT men running around with one character who"
"Have so many hit points and defense too!"
"That nobody sees them a threat and while"
"They sit around silently they just compile"
"And are then at max in a couple of days"
"meanwhile the muppets are turned to filets"
"HOGWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH! Us little guys don't even get to use our powers. Boohooohooohoohooo...."
Lathum
07-13-2011, 06:23 PM
do I interact through a PM or in public?
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 06:24 PM
The hare jumps into Athena's arms and gives her a GREAT BIG KISS!
"Hi babe! Will ya marry me? I swear you will win by a hare!"
PackerFanatic
07-13-2011, 06:24 PM
do I interact through a PM or in public?
With the characters that Danny puts out? Through PM
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 06:25 PM
I'm glad Danny clarified about allegiance. I would have been all for Gonzo getting killed if it would show my allegiance, but it wouldn't.
Frankly, based on both my own evidence, and my sense of Danny as a designer, I don't see any reason to think multiple characters will be more powerful than single ones. Each multiple character will be much easier to kill, and if I understand it right we could have multiple deaths each day, not necessarily just one lynch. So, I would think it's more necessary than ever to make sure we consolidate votes by the end of the day and avoid a blood bath.
This is an aspect I hadn't thought of. My guy only has 1 attack power as well. It seems safe to assume those with multiple characters have way more combined power than that.
"And again HOGWASH I say!"
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 06:26 PM
With the characters that Danny puts out? Through PM
"That's what SHE said!" leers the hare.
mckerney
07-13-2011, 06:28 PM
The mad hatter and the march hare stand back to back and bob their knees up and down. They alternate their speech...
"The muppets and the goddess of beauty "
"seem to think that it's harder and/or easier"
"I'm really not sure"
"I've heard it both ways"
"Or maybe four"
"That those multiple characters controlled by one are harder to kill and should be taken out ..."
"Soooooooooooooooon"
"Rubbish and Poppycock!"
"Our friend the mouse died from a simple scratch"
"And funny thing about Gonzo you know"
"Is that the mouse did not hurt him nonono"
"His attack power was a round ZEEEEEEEEEERO"
"Meanwhile you have these ROTTEN STINKING PORKY FATFATFAT men running around with one character who"
"Have so many hit points and defense too!"
"That nobody sees them a threat and while"
"They sit around silently they just compile"
"And are then at max in a couple of days"
"meanwhile the muppets are turned to filets"
"HOGWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH! Us little guys don't even get to use our powers. Boohooohooohoohooo...."
More trying to confuse me like Spy. No worry, I have present for you.
<img src=http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs20/f/2007/231/a/9/Heavy_Weapons_Guy__Bullet_by_rrc589.jpg width=1206 height=754>
Chubby
07-13-2011, 06:33 PM
from the rules:
"Players will likely not have complete information on damage delivered by attacks over the course of the day, but the end of day recap will include the total amount of damage delivered to each character. Note that this amount will often differ from the amount of damage sustained by the players as it does not factor in their defense rating. The recap will also include the player who executed the "kill shot". Character faction will be revealed upon death."
we have not been getting this have we?
mauchow
07-13-2011, 06:38 PM
What is this about lathum and public/PM?
Chubby
07-13-2011, 06:40 PM
What is this about lathum and public/PM?
He was asking how he interacts with the NPCs each day I'm fairly certain
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 06:43 PM
What is this about lathum and public/PM?
The march hare sticks his fingers in his ears and makes a face like he's tasted something gross.
"Do not mention pub lic-ing nor the people who choose to lick them. Silly adolescents."
mauchow
07-13-2011, 06:46 PM
zoe & jayne standard attack on mad hatter
mal standard attack on the hare
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 06:48 PM
More trying to confuse me like Spy. No worry, I have present for you.
The hatter takes out an English to Brut translation book and utters.
"Single....uh....ONE...*he sniffs his underarms* too strong....have defense, hitpoints and ....*gestures the wide open countryside* spaeeeeecial and *jumps into the air like superman...but cannot fly so falls to the ground* powers.
They get uberhit points, defense out the wazoo (which is the very best place to keep it), AND their special powers which are safe because no one will take THEM out in one hit. And here you go and pick on US....spoilsports..."
mauchow
07-13-2011, 06:49 PM
Just in case the two have decent HP if the mouse had 1 HP and 0 Attack.
mckerney
07-13-2011, 07:21 PM
Heavy attack Vice Admiral Horatio Viscount Nelson
Little bunnies look dead, now to make sure we finish off one more.
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 07:48 PM
"Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodoggie!" shouts the March hare getting on all fours and panting repeatedly.
"Golly it's hot today. Sure are a lot of peeple that fall for ye old phoney seer bit."
He picks up a phone and tosses it in a hot pan. It seers nicely.
Autumn
07-13-2011, 07:51 PM
Wolf or not, I'm going to miss ya CF. This was epic roleplaying.
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 07:52 PM
Maybe I'll find a game that o-priest-she-ates it.
DaddyTorgo
07-13-2011, 07:57 PM
Hmmm - busy day for me. catching up.
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 07:57 PM
Fine. No one be-leaves me, so I'll kill muppets.
What Tree-mend-us fun
march hare unattack Jack bauer
Mad hatter unattack jack bauer
then you'll have a boring game of werewolf left.
Mad Hatter attack kermit
march hare attack Professor Honeydew
Autumn
07-13-2011, 07:58 PM
Now that's just mean.
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 07:59 PM
I'M mean?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
(Actually I'm just average.)
Autumn
07-13-2011, 08:00 PM
http://www.reelcollectibles.co.nz/images/muppets/thumbs/chef_th.gif Let's feend a receepe-a fur hare-a suoop.
dubb93
07-13-2011, 08:02 PM
The fact that he would rather butcher muppets than make sure Tyrith dies with his last action makes me feel even better about my vote.
Well, to believe you, we'd have to accept that PF decided to bluff that he won Mario and happened to finger the person who actually won Mario. That's quite a stretch. I like the mean/average line though. :)
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 08:07 PM
"No THIS is a stretch!"
The March hare bounces as high as he can into the air, does a somersault and catches his ears on a tall tree. His body continues to plummet to the ground and elongate until it hits bottom. Now he is a tall and very thin bunny. He finishes off with a tap-dancing routine.
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 08:07 PM
"I hope I STICK the landing!"
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 08:10 PM
He springs up and lands in Melisandre's arms again planting on her a big surprise kiss too!
"Oh ladies, stop yo're embarrassing me. but really...do you litter? Would you like to make one? r-r-r-r-r-r-rr-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r" (he does a Tigger roll of the R's.)
Autumn
07-13-2011, 08:20 PM
I never would have guessed before the game started that the Muppets would be such a popular target. Seems like they're everybody's go to. What do you guys have against muppets?
He springs up and lands in Melisandre's arms again planting on her a big surprise kiss too!
"Oh ladies, stop yo're embarrassing me. but really...do you litter? Would you like to make one? r-r-r-r-r-r-rr-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r" (he does a Tigger roll of the R's.)
How droll. Give my regards to R'hllor when the flames consume you.
Tyrith
07-13-2011, 08:22 PM
Well, this is pretty bad for me. Although, I would note for dubb, that I'm not the only person that's weakened right now - Mrs. Doubtfire is also wounded. But if I was in your spot, dubb, I'd be thinking what you're thinking. Wish I had something in the bag here, but I don't.
I never would have guessed before the game started that the Muppets would be such a popular target. Seems like they're everybody's go to. What do you guys have against muppets?
For what it's worth, you've reintroduced my 4-year old to Animal. We've been cracking up watching YouTube clips.
Shouldn't have been a frowny face on that post.
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 08:27 PM
I never would have guessed before the game started that the Muppets would be such a popular target. Seems like they're everybody's go to. What do you guys have against muppets?
Nothing. I admit to being super excited about the new movie.
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 08:29 PM
March giggles uncontrollably, "Don't worry good miss, I have on my flame retardant underwear!"
he jumps in another vat of tea and the hatter lights it up.
The water boils and bubbles. Then there is a flash. The hare's clothes seem unchanged. He gets an embarrassed look on his face, then looks in his pants and gulps. "I guess that's the only thing that DID catch fire..."
Suddenly something catches his eye.
"I've missed one so sorry!"
He bounces out sopping wet and jumps in Zoe's arms and gives her a big furry smooch and flashes his eyebrows at her.
"Once you go hare,
You never go back.....there!"
dubb93
07-13-2011, 08:32 PM
Vote count?
DaddyTorgo
07-13-2011, 08:34 PM
ATTACK CRIMSON FOX WITH ROLLING PIN!!
dubb93
07-13-2011, 08:37 PM
Sadly I don't think we have enough people on Tyrith to kill him and we probably have so many people on CF that it is overkill, but to be honest I lost count a while ago.
Lathum
07-13-2011, 08:40 PM
Sadly I don't think we have enough people on Tyrith to kill him and we probably have so many people on CF that it is overkill, but to be honest I lost count a while ago.
Remember my attack counts for extra
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 08:42 PM
Vote count?
"I told you he's not playing!" shouts the hatter!
mauchow
07-13-2011, 08:42 PM
Should I take my attacks elsewhere? I obviously want to make sure first and foremost that the guilty party dies.
Barkeep49
07-13-2011, 08:50 PM
Attack Tracker
Mad Hatter - Jack Bauer, Keyser Soze, Swedish Chef, Nelson, Hulk, Oscar the Grouch, Zoe & Jayne
March Hare - Duke, Kermit, Professor Honeydew, Animal, Melisandre, Thursday, Athena, Super Grover, Mal
Nelson - Harry Potter, Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, Miss Elizabeth, Dwight, Heavy
Kermit - Mad Hatter
Honeydew - March Hare
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 08:54 PM
"Where's Janice when you need her? Like, Reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally!"
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 08:55 PM
Attack Tracker
Mad Hatter - Jack Bauer, Keyser Soze, Swedish Chef, Nelson, Hulk, Oscar the Grouch, Zoe & Jayne
March Hare - Duke, Kermit, Professor Honeydew, Animal, Melisandre, Thursday, Athena, Super Grover, Mal
Nelson - Harry Potter, Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, Miss Elizabeth, Dwight, Heavy
Kermit - Mad Hatter
Honeydew - March Hare
"Tracker's not playing--" then the hatter stops and contemplates, "No that's just not as funny. He sits down and eats a donut, dips it twice in his teacup, then eats the cup.
Danny
07-13-2011, 08:59 PM
My internet is being tricky right now and I have to leave in 25 minutes. I'll try and get everything processed before then. Responding to PM's now
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 09:01 PM
The March Hare starts to get a funny look on his face. He looks irritated, then bonks the side of his head several times with his paw. Nothing. He does it again. This time a spurt of red liquid comes out. Finally he does it repeatedly a third time and a gush of clear red liquid comes spills out and he catches it in a pitcher of ice cubes. Very satisfied with himself, he chortles, "Get it here! Come one and all! Get your 'When World's Koolaid!' " he pours a glass for everyone and drinks the rest himself.
Danny
07-13-2011, 09:02 PM
Deadline
CrimsonFox
07-13-2011, 09:06 PM
The hare draws a line on the ground with his ears. The hatter approaches it and smashes it several times with his hammer.
"Now it is!"
EagleFan
07-13-2011, 09:12 PM
More furry freaks. It's *&*%&%* rabbit season *&*%*$#!!!
That rabbit's foot won't be lucky for you tonight.
Danny
07-13-2011, 09:19 PM
I am going with BK,s attack tracker, did anyone miss attacks today?
Danny
07-13-2011, 09:20 PM
Im seeing cthulu and mrs. doubtfire missing
Danny
07-13-2011, 09:23 PM
Cthulu is hungry and swallows Zoe whole. Zoe is dead
dubb93
07-13-2011, 09:24 PM
Cthulu is hungry and swallows Zoe whole. Zoe is dead
that's some bs
Danny
07-13-2011, 09:25 PM
And there are four more deaths today.
Mad Hatter and the March Hare have been killed. Crimsonfox was a wolf!
Additionally, Kermit and professor honeydew have been killed!
Danny
07-13-2011, 09:27 PM
I dont have time to do interactions, but will process them as soon as I get home.
mauchow
07-13-2011, 09:27 PM
Lame on Zoe dying.
Danny
07-13-2011, 09:29 PM
Also, Admiral Nelson has been knocked out, rendering him unable to interact or take any night actions.
Autumn
07-13-2011, 09:34 PM
I'm pretty sure Doubtfire attacked someone, but maybe you found that.
CF, I hate* you for killing my muppets.
*Werewolf game hate, not real hate.
mauchow
07-13-2011, 09:42 PM
Other than the original, and the first three Super Marios, I haven't followed any recent incarnations of Mario. Does it make sense his reward would be a scan? I don't know that reward is tied to the character, but Samwise as BG made perfect sense. For Mario, I would think something like a power-up to att/def or health would make more sense. So while I at first dismissed your thought, I'm now giving it more thought.
Still, there wasn't much pressure on either at this point, so I don't know how much weight to give that.
I'm pretty sure Doubtfire attacked someone, but maybe you found that.
CF, I hate* you for killing my muppets.
*Werewolf game hate, not real hate.
DT attacked Crimson with a rolling pin.. not officially a vote.
Pretty disappointing that I lost Zoe on inactivity.
mauchow
07-13-2011, 09:42 PM
Not sure why JAGs post carried over into my quote, but whatever, ignore that.
Autumn
07-13-2011, 10:21 PM
I hear ya, Mauboy. That's how I lost my poor sweet Beaker. Not to mention losing two Muppets to that nefarious Mad Hatter.
Darth Vilus
07-13-2011, 11:48 PM
i sincerely apologize to everyone for not beig around more often. This is literally the worst week to play WW, the girl who shares the desk with me is on vacation so i'm working all day, every day. i'm very sorry
Danny
07-14-2011, 12:42 AM
I will be processing characters now.
Also, forgot to list it, but Admiral Nelson is wounded.
Danny
07-14-2011, 12:53 AM
Wolverine lashes out and tries to slice Aninal, but it doesn't seem to have done any damage.
Danny
07-14-2011, 01:00 AM
Characters have been processed. Additionally, due to the lateness, I am extending the night deadline until 11am eastern.
CrimsonFox
07-14-2011, 03:39 AM
ATTACK CRIMSON FOX WITH ROLLING PIN!!
*bonk*
Nothing there! It's ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL hollow!
CrimsonFox
07-14-2011, 03:46 AM
The March Hare is pounced upon by various and sundry who disappear in a puff of smoke and fists. When the smoke clears, The March Hare stands there in a dramatic pose and a spotlight shines on him.
"I die...but was it worth it? I die... Twas nobler in the mindto suffer the snakes and arrows of this abadoned hovercraft. " He coughs twice and flounces on the ground. The hatter leans in with a stethoscope that is really two straws and a teacup. The hatter explodes up again and continues to cough and walk around wobbly.
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/11000000/March-Hare-march-hare-11068737-385-385.jpg
"Do you know the muffin man? One two three...and a quarter to five....and a buck and a quarter quarter staff. I wish to say that it is not right that you should go when all you need is right here before you. STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY ooooooooooooh WON't you STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY just a little bit LONGERrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...PLEASE please STAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaay just a little bit long...." He leaps up to the heavens and lands with a big puff of smoke on Professor Honeydew. The Master of Chaos has fallen and rises no more.
"And plase give my regards to--"
Oh SHUT UP I said HAS FALLEN AND RISES NO MORE!
"Oh, sorry! "
He sticks his tongue out the side of his mouth in a goofy "I'm dead" sort of way.
CrimsonFox
07-14-2011, 04:00 AM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUkLU4Tod0kiXbU7-5hGDzxt3empa1Mtl_lFHkb--et6aBnIQR&t=1
The Hatter SOOOOOOO incensed by the Hare's death that he fumes and builds and turns red in the face then purple then polkadots.
He grabs his enlarged hammer and jumps on the table. "No one slaps my bunny around except for ME! You all need to tell me one thing and one thing alone! " he jumps off and spins waving his hammer about...."WHY is a RAVEN LIKE a WRITING DESK?!?!?!?!?"
*SPLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
The hammer connects and the shockwave is felt. The Hatter lies there panting and covered in green goo. His hammer is lifted and there is more green frog goo there. He looks around suddenly frightened to the others, "WELLL?!?!?!?!?!?"
He looks sad...."I don't know either...." and starts to cry. He walks through the group hammer dragging behind him. "I now go off and will be the mad hatter no more. Perhaps if they make a movie of me, they will cast someone that tries too damn hard and uses a stupid accent that no one can understand so that all the essence of my character is completely gone. *SOB* "I must go...it is my time"
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwr8Q_7-i5CQxu9gnY5ZAIevGST51V39p7eRMLaS_krUUGcvBv3g&t=1
Apparently everyone else can't stand the thought of that either and puts him out of his misery. Oh if only someone would have done that to Johnny too...
http://i25.tinypic.com/219romh.jpg
CrimsonFox
07-14-2011, 04:01 AM
I'm pretty sure Doubtfire attacked someone, but maybe you found that.
CF, I hate* you for killing my muppets.
*Werewolf game hate, not real hate.
Pffffff....you haven't even cracked my top 3....
CrimsonFox
07-14-2011, 04:02 AM
that's some bs
I don't know I'm feeling really good about that. :)
And Fullthulhu is too I bet.
Danny
07-14-2011, 10:20 AM
Night 3 Results.
Lathum is night killed. He was a villager
Miss Elizabeth is attacked by Dracula and dies
Cthulu is attacked by dexter, but he takes no damage and simply laughs at the attempt of someone trying to attack him.
Danny
07-14-2011, 10:21 AM
I will now send out health updates.
dubb93
07-14-2011, 10:29 AM
Well if anyone wants to claim defeating Dracula you will shoot to the top of my wolf list right next to Tyrith.
dubb93
07-14-2011, 10:32 AM
I defeated Hamlet last night(probably won't happen again now that Dracula cut my crew's passive ability, if you are a villager and did this congrats you just made it easier for the wolves to get all the powers) but anyway his father allowed me to see what someone has been up to so far. I choose Barkeep. Barkeep has not taken an action at night in the game so far.
Autumn
07-14-2011, 10:36 AM
Interesting, dubb. Sorry to hear about Miss Elizabeth. I half wonder if it was Lathum who won that, he seemed worried about your trio.
Danny
07-14-2011, 10:39 AM
Admiral Nelson is wounded.
Mrs, Doubtfire is no longer wounded
Autumn
07-14-2011, 10:41 AM
Well, I'd still like to see some pressure on DT. And JAG has been quieter than normal. I don't like that.
Bork, Bork, Bork!
Animallllll!
SWEDISH CHEF ATTACKS MELISANDRE
ANIMAL ATTACKS MRS. DOUBTFIRE
Danny
07-14-2011, 10:45 AM
Today's characters.
Mr. Spock
Solid Snake
Robin Hood
Captain Ahab
Indiana Jones
I defeated Hamlet last night(probably won't happen again now that Dracula cut my crew's passive ability, if you are a villager and did this congrats you just made it easier for the wolves to get all the powers) but anyway his father allowed me to see what someone has been up to so far. I choose Barkeep. Barkeep has not taken an action at night in the game so far.
That seems very surprising, unless he has a one-time use ability. He stated earlier he has two powers I believe.
I went after Calvin, thinking he might go for the more spiritually-minded Melisandre, but no deal.
Well, I'd still like to see some pressure on DT. And JAG has been quieter than normal. I don't like that.
Bork, Bork, Bork!
Animallllll!
SWEDISH CHEF ATTACKS MELISANDRE
ANIMAL ATTACKS MRS. DOUBTFIRE
You're JAG-intuition is failing you this time. I agree I have been quieter than usual, in part because I haven't had as much to analyze as when there are the usual voting records. I'm open to suggestions. I feel reasonably good about you and Chubby, less so but still positive about dubb, and more mixed about the rest. Oh, and I feel like Zinto has been normal. I don't think he's ever been a wolf before so normal puts him on the plus side.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 11:01 AM
That seems very surprising, unless he has a one-time use ability. He stated earlier he has two powers I believe.
One of my powers is passive and so I don't think would show up in that scan. The other is a one time use ability, isn't a night action, and is not something I've used up until now.
mauchow
07-14-2011, 11:01 AM
I too tried interacting with Calvin with no such luck. That royally sucks. I lost the one person who could really help me with the missions in Zoe so don't be surprised if I never get anything from these characters.
mckerney
07-14-2011, 11:02 AM
I shoot at the tiny fast one last night but he get away.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 11:03 AM
I actually read Lathum's actions very differently. I agree on the surface it's non-standard Lathum, but I actually think right below the surface it's classic Lathum and given what we know read the situation benignly.
I'm disappointed that Lathum died. Frankly my intuition is that Lathum did indeed have some sort of power which caused him to go along with Tyrith. However, I'm going to suggest that the power wasn't what Lathum said. Lathum is the rare player who will lie as a villager and so while going along with someone else isn't Lathum like I'm suggesting he used that merely as a rationale for another purpose. Obviously we won't know now whether that's true or not.
mauchow
07-14-2011, 11:04 AM
Anybody have a decent idea who the cleared people are? Lathum was 100% cleared IMO and that's why he was killed. The question he asked about how to handle interactions did it for me..not to say he couldn't play that card as a wolf but.. oh well.
Zinto
07-14-2011, 11:08 AM
Anybody have a decent idea who the cleared people are? Lathum was 100% cleared IMO and that's why he was killed. The question he asked about how to handle interactions did it for me..not to say he couldn't play that card as a wolf but.. oh well.
I don't think anyone is as cleared as Lathum was since he was scanned but in terms of how things have gone with night actions and such I would say that Packer is the most cleared followed by Autumn and Chubby.
mauchow
07-14-2011, 11:09 AM
mal and Jayne standard attack athena
Going with my day one gut feeling. I hadn't brought it up yet but here goes.
mauchow
07-14-2011, 11:11 AM
The Dexter attack on cthulu is interesting too. It was a wolf that sent that attack..IMO
dubb93
07-14-2011, 11:15 AM
mal and Jayne standard attack athena
Going with my day one gut feeling. I hadn't brought it up yet but here goes.
It was a feeling of mine too. He hasn't taken a night according to my scan I did last night which IMO makes him=wolf a Low percentage play today IMO.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 11:18 AM
It was a feeling of mine too. He hasn't taken a night according to my scan I did last night which IMO makes him=wolf a Low percentage play today IMO.
QFT
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 11:22 AM
Can I ask what I've done which is so suspicious? I came in playing aggressive last time I played and so I decided to be less aggressive this game but am still setting off people's radar. It can be hard to fight people's gut feelings so I'm curious why I'm seen as suspicious.
Until dubb mentioned it, I thought the Dracula thing was his failed interaction him Drac, same with the other attacks that were listed. Autumn, can you reveal if you went after Wolverine yesterday?
And yeah, I forgot PF. I feel pretty good about him obviously.
Can I ask what I've done which is so suspicious? I came in playing aggressive last time I played and so I decided to be less aggressive this game but am still setting off people's radar. It can be hard to fight people's gut feelings so I'm curious why I'm seen as suspicious.
The only thing for me is you're usually overly open with info and you've been pretty guarded this game. I haven't gone after you much for it because I figured if you were a villager there would be a good reason for it.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 11:32 AM
The only thing for me is you're usually overly open with info and you've been pretty guarded this game. I haven't gone after you much for it because I figured if you were a villager there would be a good reason for it.
What info would you like me to be open with? I've told you how many special powers/abilities I have (2) and have told you that I only have a 1 attack and have less than 11 hit points. I would argue only dubb has given more information about characters than I have. I would HAPPY to be more open with info, but don't believe in unilaterally doing so. So if there's a sense we should share, I'm in by all means.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 11:33 AM
One of my powers is passive and so I don't think would show up in that scan. The other is a one time use ability, isn't a night action, and is not something I've used up until now.
Actually forgot that I gave even more info than just the number of my powers, but also talked about their general qualities. Again I argue I've given the 2nd most complete picture of my character in the game.
Right, but you only just answered that. I'm talking about my thoughts regarding you earlier. But anyway, like I said, I'm pretty sure if you felt it was a good idea to share it you woulvdve already done so. And with dubb's info, I don't think you're a very good voting target.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 11:42 AM
Right, but you only just answered that. I'm talking about my thoughts regarding you earlier. But anyway, like I said, I'm pretty sure if you felt it was a good idea to share it you woulvdve already done so. And with dubb's info, I don't think you're a very good voting target.
Good point.
But since you opened it up, what information do you/others think it make sense to share? The more information that villagers can share credibly the better it generally is. I think sharing the results of character interactions/attacks should be a given. They're one time powers. Saying what you won/how you're using them is something I think makes tons of sense. Are there other areas people think it makes sense to share?
The Jackal
07-14-2011, 12:06 PM
The only problem with revealing character details is that we honestly have no way to know if someone is lying or not. This was all done in Danny's mind, we could each probably make up 3-5 powers for our characters that could be seen as plausible.
If people have powers that can generate information, they should certainly reveal such after they've used them. On the other hand I'm not surprised that a ton hasn't been revealed yet. It's usually not a good thing to play things close to the vest, but in a game like this the more the wolves are left to guess about what we can do, the harder their jobs are.
The Jackal
07-14-2011, 12:15 PM
Has anyone been tracking the interaction reveals? I feel like there's a huge discrepancy between the number of available interactions there have been and the ones that were reported. The wolves can't be winning -that- many of them.
I guess PF revealed his scan interaction midday so there could still be something coming. Slow and steady wins the race, the wolves can't win all the scans/hide from them forever.
dubb93
07-14-2011, 12:19 PM
The wolves can't be winning -that- many of them.
Why not, we seem to have taken the approach of gimping people with multiple characters. Let's assume that most of them are good. That pretty much knocks them out of the running since Danny said each person is looking for something in particular and cutting someone's abilities roughly in half or by 1/3 makes it very unlikely they will be able to win a run off with someone who is still at full power.
Also keep in mind the wolves can spread out and hit every character with just one of them. We haven't coordinated yet which means we could all be shooting for the same 1 or two guys.
I'm fully open to coordinating. Autumn suggested it D1 and I agreed with him then, and even moreso now with the points Jackal and dubb ate bringing forth. We know the wolves are coordinating, we should be doing the same.
The Jackal
07-14-2011, 12:42 PM
I guess that's possible. And from some of the inactivity I bet not everyone has been issuing an interaction, which puts the odds in the wolves favor. I'd urge everyone to make sure they do that.
Has anyone had a negative impact from an interaction? I've only tried to interact with characters, not attack them, but I'm wondering if someone could win the right to interact, but fail to defeat a character, or have the interaction backfire. Seems unlikely but just something I've been thinking about.
Autumn
07-14-2011, 12:46 PM
No, I didn't interact with Wolverine. I tried to ask The Flash for help and got nothing. So somebody was more successful with him.
Zinto
07-14-2011, 12:46 PM
I am not against trying to coordinate and it maybe our best chance at winning some of the interactions.
I have not had any negative interactions but then again I have not won any and I also have not attacked anyone.
The Jackal
07-14-2011, 12:49 PM
I'm fully open to coordinating. Autumn suggested it D1 and I agreed with him then, and even moreso now with the points Jackal and dubb ate bringing forth. We know the wolves are coordinating, we should be doing the same.
I have to think about this to make sure it doesn't benefit the wolves more than the village, but I'm not seeing much to indicate that. At the worst it doesn't give us any information, but lets us make sure we aren't all stacked on 1-2 characters when we honestly don't know what each one will do past speculation.
There's a lot of room for wolf manipulation/lying in this plan if there's no way to confirm what people are saying, though. I don't know if we'll be able to say look at the list of people who say they're going to interact with Spock today and know that not more than one of them is a wolf.
However I've believed since the beginning of this game and I still do that our best chance is winning these interactions and the info that comes from them, and coordinating would at least boost the efforts of that happening.
Autumn
07-14-2011, 12:55 PM
First day I won Samwise with all my Muppets
Second Day I lost homer
Third day I lost Flash
Today I have not sent in an order, I don't think my two guys will have much luck, but who knows.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 01:00 PM
My theory for interaction is that some characters you have to attack to win/lose while others you have to interact. So if everyone were to attack, today for instance, Indiana Jones, but you needed to interact with him instead that nothing would happen. I can say that while I've interacted with someone every day I've had nothing happen to me.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 01:03 PM
As I'm for sharing I've sent in to interact with Spock.
mckerney
07-14-2011, 01:03 PM
Has anyone had a negative impact from an interaction? I've only tried to interact with characters, not attack them, but I'm wondering if someone could win the right to interact, but fail to defeat a character, or have the interaction backfire. Seems unlikely but just something I've been thinking about.
Yes wolves tell us if you lost health from interaction so I can shoot the rest out of you.
dubb93
07-14-2011, 01:05 PM
Everyone I've interacted with I've had nothing. Yesterday I attack Hamlet, boom, I win. From what everyone else has said I think interacting is a failing proposition. I would encourage everyone to attack since it seems no one has won anything interacting.
Zinto
07-14-2011, 01:05 PM
As I'm for sharing I've sent in to interact with Spock.
I also interacted with Spock today.
I interacted with Barney on day one.
I interacted with Marion on day two.
I forgot to send in an interaction yesterday.
dubb93
07-14-2011, 01:05 PM
Macho Man Standard Attack Admiral Nelson
Hulk Hogan Standard Attack Admiral Nelson
Zinto
07-14-2011, 01:08 PM
Alright I have to watch a movie for class so I will be out for two hours or so. In the meantime I am going to throw down an attack on the Hulk since he is such an awesome character but I have not got to hear him talk very much so far.
Dwight attacks the Hulk
As I'm for sharing I've sent in to interact with Spock.
That makes good sense, wisdom and logic. I'm thinking Ahab for me.
First day I won Samwise with all my Muppets
Second Day I lost homer
Third day I lost Flash
Today I have not sent in an order, I don't think my two guys will have much luck, but who knows.
Did you win with an attack or interaction D1?
Autumn
07-14-2011, 01:47 PM
I have interacted every day, and my win with Sam was an interaction, not an attack. I think Danny made clear, some characters will respond to one and some to the other.
EagleFan
07-14-2011, 01:48 PM
Duke attacks Thursday Next
She is still quiet and she's not being quiet for the reasons that I usually like them being...
EagleFan
07-14-2011, 01:50 PM
Interactions...
Day one I earned a one time use power but I don't want to reveal anything about that at this time when I interacted with fellow playa Mr. Stimson.
Day two I earned a slut power from Elizabeth which I used on dubb.
Day three I lost my attempt to interact with Calvin.
EagleFan
07-14-2011, 01:53 PM
I will attempt to get that attack chart put together tonight. Was exhausted yesterday, and extremely pissed after that issue with that kid (see off topic if you want the details).
Tyrith
07-14-2011, 01:56 PM
I won Captain Kirk on day 1, which let me teleport away from the first attack I took after that. It's the only reason I survived yesterday.
I then proceeded to fail at Wolverine and The Flash the next two days.
dubb93
07-14-2011, 02:05 PM
Day 1 I in my interaction with Captain Kirk.
Day 2 I decided not to send anything in.
Day 3 I attacked and defeated Hamlet. He father let me check up and see what any 1 player had been up to. I choose Barkeep. Barkeep has not been up to anything it would seem.
Lathum
07-14-2011, 02:07 PM
crap
The Jackal
07-14-2011, 02:16 PM
As I said before I've been unsuccessful with 3 interactions (no attacks). D1 boba, D2 beowulf, D3 hamlet.
The Jackal
07-14-2011, 02:17 PM
I think today I'll go with Solid Snake.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 02:18 PM
I didn't do D1 because my question wasn't answered and I forgot to submit something
D2 Wolverine
D3 Hamlet
D4 Spock
dubb93
07-14-2011, 03:01 PM
Alright, big boot and legdrop for Robin Rood.
dubb93
07-14-2011, 03:04 PM
I'm more than likely not going to be able to finish Admiral Nelson off on my own.
And I find it quite odd that Barkeep says he thinks Lathum found something out about the bad Admiral and that is why he went along with me yesterday but Barkeep himself has not cast a vote for the Admiral today. If you are confident that Lathum scanned him as bad and that is why he voted him why aren't you voting him?
Or was that by chance something you planted to refer to after the Admiral's death?
Chubby
07-14-2011, 03:08 PM
just got home from work, I haven't gotten shit for interactions so far.
I tried to interact with hamlet last night, tried to buy homer a beer the night before and tried to interact with Samwise Gangee the 1st night.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 03:09 PM
I'm more than likely not going to be able to finish Admiral Nelson off on my own.
And I find it quite odd that Barkeep says he thinks Lathum found something out about the bad Admiral and that is why he went along with me yesterday but Barkeep himself has not cast a vote for the Admiral today. If you are confident that Lathum scanned him as bad and that is why he voted him why aren't you voting him?
Or was that by chance something you planted to refer to after the Admiral's death?
I'm not sure I explained myself well, but first: how could I have planted anything?
Now to try and explain myself better. Lathum going along with your attack on Nelson struck a couple of us as odd. My suggestion is that Lathum lied about his reasoning for doing so, because going along with your attack actually had to do with some ability he had. Might have been a scan of you or a scan of Nelson, I dunno, but something along those lines is what I'm suggesting.
PackerFanatic
07-14-2011, 03:09 PM
JACK BAUER ATTACKS ADMIRAL NELSON
Chubby
07-14-2011, 03:12 PM
there hasn't been a ton of activity today so far and I'm thinking we're going to target multiple wolves today... what are people's thoughts on mau? (i'm guessing tyrith is already the other primary target today)
Zinto
07-14-2011, 03:38 PM
Mau is someone who is kind of tough to get a read on when he is a wolf but I think he is usually more quiet when he is a wolf although like I said he is a pretty good wolf so he is someone to keep an eye on.
Zinto
07-14-2011, 03:43 PM
I am really concerned by the lack of people willing to take charge and try and make cases against people so far in the game. I know it is a bit tougher in this game since the analyzing the vote is tough but we can not sit back and let the wolves pick and choose people for us.
Chubby
07-14-2011, 03:46 PM
super grover 2.0 attacks admiral nelson
oscar the grouch attacks admiral nelson
i'm all for attacking admiral nelson, i guess i'm just hoping for some more insight into another person to target. there's been a couple people who have been quiet and not geenrated much conversation so far...
however, i want to make sure we finish off admiral nelson today as that seems to be the consensus so that will be my vote for now
mauchow
07-14-2011, 03:58 PM
Like eaglefan, I may have also been a target night one. It no longer matters to me to say this as Zoe has died.
EF will know what I'm talking about. I'm sure that I wasn't a night one night kill target so its likely that ef got the n1 block unless there is someone else that also has/had the ability.
I'm not really clearing myself here really but wanted to maybe help a little so we can create cot's at some point.
ntndeacon
07-14-2011, 04:02 PM
Duke attacks Thursday Next
She is still quiet and she's not being quiet for the reasons that I usually like them being...
Would that be because they are ignoring your sexist insinuations. Next thing you will be saying is that Neanderthals should go back to being Extinct! Hogwash!
Whether DT and Tyrith are wolf or villager, I don't understand their lack of participation considering they're clinging to in-game survival tenuously.
ntndeacon
07-14-2011, 04:10 PM
As for interactions
D1 it was Samwise
D2 Elizabeth Bennett
D3 not a one.. was busy making a final and forgot.
Today iam not yet sure, but it will be someone that is a character in at least one book
Like eaglefan, I may have also been a target night one. It no longer matters to me to say this as Zoe has died.
EF will know what I'm talking about. I'm sure that I wasn't a night one night kill target so its likely that ef got the n1 block unless there is someone else that also has/had the ability.
I'm not really clearing myself here really but wanted to maybe help a little so we can create cot's at some point.
I don't understand this. I thought we knew hoops was the likely N1 target when there was no kill and Autumn said he got a block with Samwise.
Zinto
07-14-2011, 04:19 PM
Whether DT and Tyrith are wolf or villager, I don't understand their lack of participation considering they're clinging to in-game survival tenuously.
It would be nice to see at least one or both of them leave us with some people they believe maybe wolves or some kind of alternative target.
EagleFan
07-14-2011, 04:23 PM
I don't understand this. I thought we knew hoops was the likely N1 target when there was no kill and Autumn said he got a block with Samwise.
My assumption was before seeing the Autumn post and assuming that since there was no night one kill it may have been that an attack on me had failed; because of my day one interaction. I wanted to be a little cryptic to the wolves to keep from being an immediate night two attack but I guess it doesn't matter now.
I was given a suit of invincibility by my day one interaction which protected me from any actions against me that night. I had hoped the wolves attacked me and failed but didn't want to show my hand to them right away (wasn't sure what they would find out about why the attack failed, if they had attacked).
mauchow
07-14-2011, 04:23 PM
I don't understand this. I thought we knew hoops was the likely N1 target when there was no kill and Autumn said he got a block with Samwise.
Well then I guess EF may still have his nk block.
mauchow
07-14-2011, 04:25 PM
My assumption was before seeing the Autumn post and assuming that since there was no night one kill it may have been that an attack on me had failed; because of my day one interaction. I wanted to be a little cryptic to the wolves to keep from being an immediate night two attack but I guess it doesn't matter now.
I was given a suit of invincibility by my day one interaction which protected me from any actions against me that night. I had hoped the wolves attacked me and failed but didn't want to show my hand to them right away (wasn't sure what they would find out about why the attack failed, if they had attacked).
Interesting. My block was passive with Zoe. I guess I assumed yours was passive as well.
ntndeacon
07-14-2011, 04:25 PM
Whether DT and Tyrith are wolf or villager, I don't understand their lack of participation considering they're clinging to in-game survival tenuously.
Well we can keep hitting them until they do that...
Attack Admiral Nelson
Autumn
07-14-2011, 04:28 PM
Yeah, I don't understand that either.
My targets include DT, JAG, Tyrith, all basically for not playing how I would expect. It might be that the game's different, but that's usually a good excuse for wolves to hide behind. If not them, I'd look next at quiet, UTR folks.
The Jackal
07-14-2011, 04:41 PM
It looks like we have enough to take out an already wounded Nelson, so I will go back to DT.
SOZE ATTACKS MRS DOUBTFIRE
mauchow
07-14-2011, 04:56 PM
Interesting that there are people saying yeah I agree barkeep seems like a good target yet I'm the only one. My 2 attack points aren't going to do anything so I will move over to Mrs doubtfire most likely. I'll check in when I get home from softball.
Tyrith
07-14-2011, 04:57 PM
NELSON ANGRY.
STAB MUPPETS!!!
STANDARD ATTACK SWEDISH CHEF
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 05:02 PM
I don't get mau's story at all. How does he know what he says he knows?
Also Nelson's attack of Autumn suggests to me that Autumn is good and Nelson is bad.
Autumn
07-14-2011, 05:11 PM
Yeah, that doesn't speak well of Tyrith. We already saw CF kill half of my guys on his way out. I assume Tyrith doesn't want to give anything away by targeting anyone else on his way out.
dubb93
07-14-2011, 05:14 PM
Yeah, that doesn't speak well of Tyrith. We already saw CF kill half of my guys on his way out. I assume Tyrith doesn't want to give anything away by targeting anyone else on his way out.
Atleast he is finally admitting he is a wolf. I have had him dead to rights for days now.
dubb93
07-14-2011, 05:16 PM
I don't get mau's story at all. How does he know what he says he knows?
Also Nelson's attack of Autumn suggests to me that Autumn is good and Nelson is bad.
+1 on both counts.
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 05:18 PM
mau's story today doesn't add up and he keeps trying to throw suspicion onto me without engaging me.
Attack Malcolm
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 05:19 PM
I'm not voting Tyrith since I have to believe we've got enough there to kill him. If people disagree I'll gladly vote that way.
mckerney
07-14-2011, 05:20 PM
I no like it when they survive.
Heavy attacks Vice Admiral Horatio Viscount Nelson
mauchow
07-14-2011, 05:45 PM
I don't get mau's story at all. How does he know what he says he knows?
Also Nelson's attack of Autumn suggests to me that Autumn is good and Nelson is bad.
What am I admitting to knowing? Eaglefan said that he may have been the night kill on night one. Today I am saying that I could have also been the night kill choice on night one because I had a passive block skill that Zoe.
I haven't said anything else beyond that so I'm not sure why I'm getting your vote. Which will likely kill me because all three of my players were little pussies.
mauchow
07-14-2011, 05:47 PM
And me not engaging you? I'm going off a gut feeling from day one. I was the first to attack today. It's not like I'm using a shit ton of evidence. I've also already stated that my attack is meaningless on you today and would be changing it most likely.
If you'd like to kill another third of my characters, go right ahead.
mauchow
07-14-2011, 05:48 PM
I still don't know what kind of vibe I am getting from Barkeep, fwiw. The day one gut feeling was just that and I haven't had him ding any bells since then, so perhaps he's not a wolf. I don't know.
mauchow
07-14-2011, 05:49 PM
What am I admitting to knowing? Eaglefan said that he may have been the night kill on night one. Today I am saying that I could have also been the night kill choice on night one because I had a passive block skill that Zoe.
I haven't said anything else beyond that so I'm not sure why I'm getting your vote. Which will likely kill me because all three of my players were little pussies.
Half my first paragraph disappeared.
I had a passive block skill that Zoe had, which now of course is gone because she's dead.
The Jackal
07-14-2011, 05:51 PM
Still nothing from Cthulu today? We've got some people flying waaaay UTR.
The Jackal
07-14-2011, 05:54 PM
I may be out past the deadline, but seems pretty straightforward. Hopefully we'll nab two in a row here.
mauchow
07-14-2011, 06:01 PM
mal and jayne unattack athena
dubb93
07-14-2011, 06:05 PM
Without telling people what to do I think the Tyrith overflow votes should hit someone UTR today. We need to force those guys to talk or kill them. Either works. I don't think we can afford to let anyone fly UTR in this game and the mechanic of weakening people in this game is a great way to get people to talk. They don't talk when they are weakened then we finish them off.
dubb93
07-14-2011, 06:05 PM
Still nothing from Cthulu today? We've got some people flying waaaay UTR.
See my last post.
Zinto
07-14-2011, 06:22 PM
Without telling people what to do I think the Tyrith overflow votes should hit someone UTR today. We need to force those guys to talk or kill them. Either works. I don't think we can afford to let anyone fly UTR in this game and the mechanic of weakening people in this game is a great way to get people to talk. They don't talk when they are weakened then we finish them off.
We definitely need to go after some of the more quiet people. They are not helping out if they are villagers and it will just add clutter and confusion down the line if someone who hasn't talked much or voted everyday is still around towards the end.
Schmidty
07-14-2011, 06:39 PM
Still nothing from Cthulu today? We've got some people flying waaaay UTR.
HULK AGREE!!!
NELSON DIE!! SMASH OCTOPUS TOO!!!!
Attack Cthulu
mauchow
07-14-2011, 06:47 PM
UTR attacking UTR? :)
mauchow
07-14-2011, 06:57 PM
Barkeep, what can I do to persuade you to change your attack? I'm afraid, as a villager, that I might be attacked at random again which would mean my death, of course after you kill Mal. I'd like the opportunity to live another day rather than possibly die at random.
Autumn, would it be proof of R'hllor's power and goodness to know that I have gazed into the flames and know that no harm will come to your muppet?
Melisandre attacks Mrs Doubtfire
I'm less certain about this since CF voted him, but I won't change this unless he gives me something reasonable to work with.
mauchow
07-14-2011, 06:59 PM
I'm off to softball shortly. It should be over in time for me to check in one more time around 8:50 or so.
mal and jayne standard attack Mrs Doubtfire
Barkeep49
07-14-2011, 07:06 PM
Like eaglefan, I may have also been a target night one. It no longer matters to me to say this as Zoe has died.
EF will know what I'm talking about. I'm sure that I wasn't a night one night kill target so its likely that ef got the n1 block unless there is someone else that also has/had the ability.
I'm not really clearing myself here really but wanted to maybe help a little so we can create cot's at some point.
mau this is a post which concerns me. I don't get how you knew what EF could or couldn't confirm.
mckerney was voted by Tyrith and CF D1, both wolves (presumably), and no one else. That was the only real takeaway I had from his vote.
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