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Zinto
07-20-2011, 06:30 PM
I still disagree with the premise that Jag not voting NTN was wolfish. More then likely a wolf would go the easy way and vote for NTN it makes no sense not to. Why make a vote that would look kind of bad after NTN's allegiance was discovered? Also Eagle told us how much health NTN had so diverging from him was not as bad of a play as you are making it sound.
Chubby
07-20-2011, 06:34 PM
Then why use bauer's bomb on ntn the night before with no intention of killing him and then refuse to vote for him? I juat don't buy his excuse of a brutal wolf which we see he read wrong
Zinto
07-20-2011, 06:48 PM
Using Bauer's bomb on NTN I will admit was a bit odd since he was so set on Jackal. That being said a combination of everything else that I have said makes me trust Jag more then Jackal. I just do not see a wolf not taking the easy way out in any voting situation. I don't see a wolf getting rid of himself just to get rid of a villager.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 06:48 PM
DV do you count as a villager in an end game scenario?
Danny
07-20-2011, 06:58 PM
As of 1754
Keyser: Melisandre, Dwight, Mal, Jayne
Melisandre: Keyser, Super Grover, Oscar
Oscar: Athena
Chubby
07-20-2011, 06:59 PM
Using Bauer's bomb on NTN I will admit was a bit odd since he was so set on Jackal. That being said a combination of everything else that I have said makes me trust Jag more then Jackal. I just do not see a wolf not taking the easy way out in any voting situation. I don't see a wolf getting rid of himself just to get rid of a villager.
I understand that, I really do. I'm not trying to dissuade suspicion of Jackal but more stating my case for why I feel the way I do on JAG.
re: voting situation - i agree in general, however, we've already seen random (to us) decisions by the wolves as far as NKs go so I don't think it's impossible for a wolf to take the easy way out because you'd never expect them to.
ok now my head hurts, this is why I"m glad I don't have (or have won) a BG ability... I always overthink it "i'll outsmart them because they'll think they outsmarted me when I really see that coming because they don't think I'll think that" etc...
I don't agree with your conclusion but I understand your reasoning, the only part I didn't understand was "getting rid of himself just to get rid of a villager" part
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:00 PM
So you think because he -didnt- vote for a wolf that makes him more trusted? Dizzying logic. We've seen several times wolves being saved from lynches with powers. Leaving outlying votes just seems to be very anti-village at this stage.
Stupid NTN voting for me. At the time he was doing it because I was the other target, but you think because he left his vote there instead of moving it to someone like Autumn it was to buy me trust? I don't really know how to refute that.
Chubby
07-20-2011, 07:00 PM
DV do you count as a villager in an end game scenario?
I got a chuckle out of this. Not making fun but what do you expect him or anyone to answer? :p
Zinto
07-20-2011, 07:05 PM
I got a chuckle out of this. Not making fun but what do you expect him or anyone to answer? :p
I can hope can't I :)
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:05 PM
All I ask of the people voting for me (well, aside from JAG) is that you make your own decision/opinion instead of voting for me because you want to trust his gut. If you think the information we have combined with the way we've played makes me the better candidate, there's not much I can do with that. But I don't like seeing posts like "well JAG is a good villager so I'm willing to go with him" when no one knows he's actually a villager. Would be a completely different story if he had been scanned or some such, but he hasn't been.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 07:06 PM
I don't agree with your conclusion but I understand your reasoning, the only part I didn't understand was "getting rid of himself just to get rid of a villager" part
If like I laid out that if Jackal turns up a villager then Jag is next on my chopping block. Why would he risk that just to get rid of Jackal.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 07:08 PM
So you think because he -didnt- vote for a wolf that makes him more trusted? Dizzying logic. We've seen several times wolves being saved from lynches with powers. Leaving outlying votes just seems to be very anti-village at this stage.
Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for an easy wolf then throw out a vote that would look bad?
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:09 PM
Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for an easy wolf then throw out a vote that would look bad?
So villagers should make bad votes because that makes them look less like wolves?
Zinto
07-20-2011, 07:09 PM
All I ask of the people voting for me (well, aside from JAG) is that you make your own decision/opinion instead of voting for me because you want to trust his gut. If you think the information we have combined with the way we've played makes me the better candidate, there's not much I can do with that. But I don't like seeing posts like "well JAG is a good villager so I'm willing to go with him" when no one knows he's actually a villager. Would be a completely different story if he had been scanned or some such, but he hasn't been.
I know this is somewhat directed at me and I definitely voted for you yesterday because of it. Today I have listed the reasons why I am voting for you.
Chubby, we've been over this, but I originally sent in my use of the bomb on Jackal, but I was worried he'd use his night power to send it against someone randomly, so I took the safer (to the village) route of using it on ntn.
I think where I really don't get where you're coming from on me is that you're making it out as if the conversation yesterday was all about me. Yesterday the talk was about me, Jackal, and Schmidty. Today the talk has been the same except subbing you in for Jackal. I have talked about you today because a lot of the more cleared players were discussing you, but most of my chatter has been trying to drum up support for a Jackal lynch.
I also think the idea that I would be more trustworthy if I attacked someone else the past few days instead of continuing on Jackal is weird. I'm trying to bring down the person I think is most wolf-like. This isn't like a regular game where the votes would otherwise be considered throwaway votes. I'm going after him continually because no one has made a convincing case for an alternative and by continuing to attack him, I'm keeping the pressure up instead of letting him heal up so I can attack someone I think is less likely to be a wolf.
Re the ntn vote, I was basically proven right in not attacking him as it would have been useless overkill. If he hadn't died, I would accept you'd have a leg to stand on with that argument.
Chubby
07-20-2011, 07:11 PM
If like I laid out that if Jackal turns up a villager then Jag is next on my chopping block. Why would he risk that just to get rid of Jackal.
I don't disagree with this at all as well as the inverse, as I've said, they are both in my last tier of being trusted as neither has done anything concrete to prove themselves.
JAG - "why I've done all these seemingly one-man
attacks on Jackal (they've all been aided by an additional person), and why I
didn't get as hurt as you might've expected after the attacks on me yesterday
(one of the people who attacked me actually attacked Jackal)" (post #1622)
how is another person aiding him without knowledge being given to the rest of us??? Since this was posted while I was at work I missed it in my trying to catch up mode when I got home but have been going thru today rereading...
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:12 PM
Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for an easy wolf then throw out a vote that would look bad?
Always vote a wolf when you have one in your grasp. I realize this game is different in that leading a vote doesn't necessarily kill a person, but I still like to play with fundamental werewolf theories. I could have voted for JAG because he'd been zoomed in on me but I voted for the person I thought most likely to be a wolf.
I know I didn't do that earlier when Tyrith was on the block, but he was wounded, and was NTN wounded? I feel like when he disappeared he didn't take damage, though I could be wrong.
All I know is JAG is using DT and Schmidty's allegiance against me because they were villagers, and yet he took down TMIMITW and DT who were both villagers, and is now taking another down, though of course I can't prove that because no one was nice enough to scan me. Grr.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 07:12 PM
So villagers should make bad votes because that makes them look less like wolves?
It is not necessarily a bad vote. If you end up being a wolf then it is not a bad vote. We can't keep dwelling on either Jag or you we have to make a decision(I wish we would have done so yesterday instead of today) because we have not had a case presented for any of the others in too many days.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:13 PM
JAG - "why I've done all these seemingly one-man
attacks on Jackal (they've all been aided by an additional person), and why I
didn't get as hurt as you might've expected after the attacks on me yesterday
(one of the people who attacked me actually attacked Jackal)" (post #1622)
how is another person aiding him without knowledge being given to the rest of us??? Since this was posted while I was at work I missed it in my trying to catch up mode when I got home but have been going thru today rereading...
That's a good point, I forgot about this. That's another piece of info that JAG kept to himself. He's done that several times and is taking 0 flack for it.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:15 PM
It is not necessarily a bad vote. If you end up being a wolf then it is not a bad vote. We can't keep dwelling on either Jag or you we have to make a decision(I wish we would have done so yesterday instead of today) because we have not had a case presented for any of the others in too many days.
Almost entirely because the only case floating around has been his on me. I was trying to avoid it because I felt he was a villager. He's been the one keeping the village involved in this, not me. When I turn up villager, he'll use everything you guys have been talking about in terms of him making moves that seem like maybe something a wolf wouldn't do because only dumb wolves would do it? to convince you not to take him down next.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 07:15 PM
Always vote a wolf when you have one in your grasp. I realize this game is different in that leading a vote doesn't necessarily kill a person, but I still like to play with fundamental werewolf theories. I could have voted for JAG because he'd been zoomed in on me but I voted for the person I thought most likely to be a wolf.
I know I didn't do that earlier when Tyrith was on the block, but he was wounded, and was NTN wounded? I feel like when he disappeared he didn't take damage, though I could be wrong.
All I know is JAG is using DT and Schmidty's allegiance against me because they were villagers, and yet he took down TMIMITW and DT who were both villagers, and is now taking another down, though of course I can't prove that because no one was nice enough to scan me. Grr.
We knew how much defense and health NTN had, thus Jag's vote was not a waste. Eagle only had 7 HP and he had 0 defense. Still I think 9 characters attacked him.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:16 PM
And that's if he's even a wolf. He's still not at the top of my list, but I don't have a choice at this point. Theres been no better case presented because the wolves have taken opportunities to plant seeds of trust for themselves. If I was a wolf I would have done the same thing.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:16 PM
We knew how much defense and health NTN had, thus Jag's vote was not a waste. Eagle only had 7 HP and he had 0 defense. Still I think 9 characters attacked him.
I keep forgetting about the reveal of NTN's HP. I guess this is one of those situations were the outlying vote isn't as suspicious.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:17 PM
I keep forgetting about the reveal of NTN's HP. I guess this is one of those situations were the outlying vote isn't as suspicious.
But there's so many hidden abilities. Who's to say a wolf couldn't have cancelled out some attacks on NTN, or switched someone's attack like JAG did? Leaving things to chance isn't a great idea usually.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 07:18 PM
That's a good point, I forgot about this. That's another piece of info that JAG kept to himself. He's done that several times and is taking 0 flack for it.
I am not upset about Jag not telling us about one of his powers, I have not told you mine, and I do not think Barkeep or Mau has either. He said he could move someone's attack and he said he has done so. It is something we can neither confirm nor deny.
Chubby
07-20-2011, 07:19 PM
We knew how much defense and health NTN had, thus Jag's vote was not a waste. Eagle only had 7 HP and he had 0 defense. Still I think 9 characters attacked him.
JAG voted 1st thing after Danny processed the day, it's not like he switched late when we knew there was enough on ntn. He was the 1st to vote overall (i was 2nd, voting ntn) and never moved.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:19 PM
I am not upset about Jag not telling us about one of his powers, I have not told you mine, and I do not think Barkeep or Mau has either. He said he could move someone's attack and he said he has done so. It is something we can neither confirm nor deny.
Well, he revealed because BK analyzed him or whatever. And I guess I understand keeping this "unidentified person helping me" secret. Probably R'hllor or something. But it's still just info that he's not letting out, and it bugs me. I've told everything about me in the interest of full disclosure, and he never did.
In fact, I wasn't even asked to reveal, and if I hadn't he would have used that bomb ability on me.
Chubby
07-20-2011, 07:20 PM
I am not upset about Jag not telling us about one of his powers, I have not told you mine, and I do not think Barkeep or Mau has either. He said he could move someone's attack and he said he has done so. It is something we can neither confirm nor deny.
He also said he has had help from another character, how is that possible without us knowing and him not being a wolf and who is it?
Zinto
07-20-2011, 07:20 PM
If you aren't a wolf Jackal make the case why the remaining players are wolves.
I am not upset about Jag not telling us about one of his powers, I have not told you mine, and I do not think Barkeep or Mau has either. He said he could move someone's attack and he said he has done so. It is something we can neither confirm nor deny.
Well, you can reasonably determine that something saved Autumn's muppet from Tyrith and I was the only one to take credit for that. There's a reasonably straightforward way to prove I can still do it, but I don't want to be accused of stalling for time unless multiple people insist.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 07:24 PM
He also said he has had help from another character, how is that possible without us knowing and him not being a wolf and who is it?
I am pretty sure he is talking about he has moved other characters attacks thus he had help from other characters.
He also said he has had help from another character, how is that possible without us knowing and him not being a wolf and who is it?
You missed where we discussed that I can 'predict' (aka make) a players attack for the following day each night.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 07:30 PM
I am hoping that Barkeep will decide on Jackal or Jag and who ever needs to switch will do so since we need all the villagers to attack one person.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 07:31 PM
If you aren't a wolf Jackal make the case why the remaining players are wolves.
DV - Most likely neutral. Could have an ability where he resists up to a certain # of attacks .. how many did he get on him, 5 or so? If he is a wolf it was a hell of a play, but probably not a good place to go. However if he continues to stay alive his story about only being able to last so long starts to look more and more suspect, because games don't often last much longer than this.
Zinto/Mau/Chubby - Pretty much all in the same group. I think there's a wolf amongst you. I really don't know who I think the wolf is. From everything I've seen I'd probably vote for mau out of the three of you.
BK - Doubtful. Like we've been saying if he's a wolf we'd go after Zinto first, and if you guys are both wolves you've pretty much won, and I'd tip my cap to you for a successful strategy.
JAG - I really don't have any solid info on him other than his voting record doesn't do him any favors (that changes if you think I'm a wolf, but you asked me to write this so..), he's usually more analytical and rarely tunnel visioned like he is, and has been reluctant to reveal info about himself. As I've been saying I've just had to come to terms with the idea that he must be a wolf instead of a misguided villager, but thinking like that might end up costing us.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:41 PM
Wussup guys
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:41 PM
How's the weather?
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:41 PM
Hot as hell over here
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:42 PM
I do count as a villager for winning purposes and I'm not really feeling Killing Zinto
Danny
07-20-2011, 07:42 PM
Well that is one way to up my game's post count!
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:42 PM
Seems like a wasted day and a free nightkill for the wolves
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:43 PM
My AP is random, it ranges from 1 to 5
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:43 PM
I'm good with either JAG or jackal being the kill choices
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:44 PM
I'm 50/50 on both really
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:44 PM
Did I mention the weather?
Danny
07-20-2011, 07:44 PM
I bet it's as hot here as it is over there!
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:45 PM
Danny's Birthday is tomorrow by the way
Danny
07-20-2011, 07:45 PM
On a side note, sort of related as Dick is a character for today, but I have 10 episodes left out of 139 in watching the complete 3rd rock from the sun on netflix.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:45 PM
You think he would be better off with a pack of depends or a box of those little blue pills? he's gettig on in years you know
Danny
07-20-2011, 07:46 PM
If you get me the blue pills, I think I will definitely need the depends
Chubby
07-20-2011, 07:51 PM
The wife is watching Teen Mom or something and I just can't take it, I much prefer WW to that!
Danny
07-20-2011, 07:52 PM
Never heard of it, but I can tell from the title that it is bad!
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:52 PM
Chubby, you have my deepest sympathies
Danny
07-20-2011, 07:52 PM
As of 1801
Keyser: Melisandre, Dwight, Mal, Jayne
Melisandre: Keyser, Super Grover, Oscar
Oscar: Athena
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 07:53 PM
If you get me the blue pills, I think I will definitely need the depends
How?
Chubby
07-20-2011, 07:53 PM
Chubby, you have my deepest sympathies
Something something american teenager is much MUCH worse so I guess the silver lining is she isn't watching that tonight!
Danny
07-20-2011, 07:54 PM
I think we were referring to two different kinds of blue bills
Danny
07-20-2011, 07:54 PM
Do all of her shows include some form of the word teen in the title?
Chubby
07-20-2011, 07:56 PM
Do all of her shows include some form of the word teen in the title?
no, unless private practice and grey's add teen into their title. I at least had Lost before to counteract them but alas Lost is fini :cry:
Danny
07-20-2011, 07:57 PM
Ok, so it's got to either have teens or hot doctors :)
Barkeep49
07-20-2011, 07:59 PM
I'm not sure the wisdom of these choices, but I am sure doing damage which can then be healed easily doesn't do any good.
Athean unattacks Oscar
Athena attacks Keyser
Chubby
07-20-2011, 08:00 PM
Ok, so it's got to either have teens or hot doctors :)
pretty much
Chubby
07-20-2011, 08:01 PM
Well, you can reasonably determine that something saved Autumn's muppet from Tyrith and I was the only one to take credit for that. There's a reasonably straightforward way to prove I can still do it, but I don't want to be accused of stalling for time unless multiple people insist.
huh? i missed this before. wouldn't stalling be the worst move evar for the village right now?
And that's if he's even a wolf. He's still not at the top of my list, but I don't have a choice at this point. Theres been no better case presented because the wolves have taken opportunities to plant seeds of trust for themselves. If I was a wolf I would have done the same thing.
I think statements like the one Ive quoted make Jackal look like he's playing more for tomorrow than me. If Jackal cones back villager, I really have no out for myself (though Ill try anyway) as I've repeatedly said I have a hard time seeing a remaining player as a wolf other than him. When I cone back villager, I expect Jackal to pull out something like the above, "I didn't want to attack him but I had no choice.". Who is at the top of your list Jackal and why aren't you making a case for them? That makes no sense.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:09 PM
I think statements like the one Ive quoted make Jackal look like he's playing more for tomorrow than me. If Jackal cones back villager, I really have no out for myself (though Ill try anyway) as I've repeatedly said I have a hard time seeing a remaining player as a wolf other than him. When I cone back villager, I expect Jackal to pull out something like the above, "I didn't want to attack him but I had no choice.". Who is at the top of your list Jackal and why aren't you making a case for them? That makes no sense.
The trio of mau/zinto/chubby is at the top of my list, probably mau on top. But there's no point leaving my vote anywhere else at this point, that'd be going against my own logic of no outliers.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:10 PM
You know, thinking more about what happened last night, and your "mystery help", it seems most likely that DV was switched on to me based on the damage that was dealt. Whoever was "assisting" you had to have 3 AP to bring my HP to where it is, and I don't think anyone else remaining has 3 AP to be honest.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:12 PM
And I'm not trying to "play for tomorrow". If either of us is lynched and the other isn't the other one is going to be the main target, unless you're a wolf, and then perhaps I'll be vindicated. But I can still see people framing this as a brilliant wolf v wolf scheme that we've hatched for days at the expense of everyone else.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:12 PM
I'm likely not to be around much more before the deadline, if I do end up going down, all your work will not be for naught. But you'll be kicking yourself for leading the village on a wild goose chase.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:14 PM
I do find it interesting that a lot of the people who were leaning towards voting for JAG switched to me today. Is it because the hulk came up good? I have no idea. All of his talking has finally gotten to you. I guess I could have played better, but I honestly don't have any info to share, else I would have long ago.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:15 PM
Danny, you really should have given me some sort of Kobayashi ability. :(
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:19 PM
There's a reasonably straightforward way to prove I can still do it, but I don't want to be accused of stalling for time unless multiple people insist.
Also, what the heck is this? There's a way to prove you can do something but you don't want to discuss what it is but we should take your word for it? More wolfish sounding things.
Danny
07-20-2011, 08:21 PM
As of 1820
Keyser: Melisandre, Dwight, Mal, Jayne, Athena
Melisandre: Keyser, Super Grover, Oscar
Chubby
07-20-2011, 08:23 PM
who are we missing votes for, DV?
Danny
07-20-2011, 08:23 PM
yes
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 08:27 PM
Attack Keyser
Sorry, my pc sucks
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 08:28 PM
i dont know what blue pill you were talking about old man
Chubby
07-20-2011, 08:31 PM
Attack Keyser
Sorry, my pc sucks
Why jackal today when u went jag yesterday? Especially when jag seems to want to stall and jackal is saying jag moved ur vote onto him yesterday?
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 08:36 PM
More people are voting jackal today, arent we supposed to stack attacks? And melisandre didnt take any damage yesterday from everyone who was on him
The trio of mau/zinto/chubby is at the top of my list, probably mau on top. But there's no point leaving my vote anywhere else at this point, that'd be going against my own logic of no outliers.
Chubby is no more an outlier than I am currently. Mostly though, it makes no sense you havent tried to make a case for your top suspects at some point yesterday or today, or even mention they were your top suspects until the past 1-2 hrs.
Chubby
07-20-2011, 08:41 PM
More people are voting jackal today, arent we supposed to stack attacks? And melisandre didnt take any damage yesterday from everyone who was on him
Jag had to have taken damage, he didn't get "injured" because he moved ur attack on him onto jackal
Why jackal today when u went jag yesterday? Especially when jag seems to want to stall and jackal is saying jag moved ur vote onto him yesterday?
1. Jackal might be saying that, but he's not correct.
2. You saying that I want to stall is ridiculous. I specifically said I did not want to. I fought the idea to attack Zinto because I felt it was equivalent to stalling.
The stuff you've said against me this evening has pretty firmly moved you to my next most likely to be a wolf, that and Mau moving more firmly into villager territory for me.
Chubby
07-20-2011, 08:44 PM
Chubby is no more an outlier than I am currently. Mostly though, it makes no sense you havent tried to make a case for your top suspects at some point yesterday or today, or even mention they were your top suspects until the past 1-2 hrs.
Who r ur top suspects? You've done nothing but sit on jackal for 4 days!
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 08:45 PM
Jag had to have taken damage, he didn't get "injured" because he moved ur attack on him onto jackal
But that's just one attack, what about all the rest?
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:45 PM
More people are voting jackal today, arent we supposed to stack attacks? And melisandre didnt take any damage yesterday from everyone who was on him
You should be attacking who you think is the wolf, if you thought it was JAG there's no point switching to me. I know you said you were 50/50, but your attack is pretty much going to decide this thing.
You know, thinking more about what happened last night, and your "mystery help", it seems most likely that DV was switched on to me based on the damage that was dealt. Whoever was "assisting" you had to have 3 AP to bring my HP to where it is, and I don't think anyone else remaining has 3 AP to be honest.
I've never revealed my AP total, so how would you know what it is to use as a baseline?
Chubby
07-20-2011, 08:47 PM
1. Jackal might be saying that, but he's not correct.
2. You saying that I want to stall is ridiculous. I specifically said I did not want to. I fought the idea to attack Zinto because I felt it was equivalent to stalling.
The stuff you've said against me this evening has pretty firmly moved you to my next most likely to be a wolf, that and Mau moving more firmly into villager territory for me.
You offered to prove your innocece but didn't want to get accused of stalling. "I can prove my innocence but you have to wait", we can't stall at this point in the game and u were advocating it to save yourself!
Danny
07-20-2011, 08:48 PM
As of 1834
Keyser: Melisandre, Dwight, Mal, Jayne, Athena, Cthulu
Melisandre: Keyser, Super Grover, Oscar
Who r ur top suspects? You've done nothing but sit on jackal for 4 days!
That doesn't mean I haven't given opinions about others. To start the day, I posted that I had Jackal on top obviously, considerably lower were you and Mau about equal, and then Zinto / BK as most trusted.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 08:50 PM
You offered to prove your innocece but didn't want to get accused of stalling. "I can prove my innocence but you have to wait", we can't stall at this point in the game and u were advocating it to save yourself!
I have no clue where you got this idea. Jag said he could prove his attack moving power if we wanted to stall not his innocence. And it was in response to something I posted about his abilities.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:51 PM
That doesn't mean I haven't given opinions about others. To start the day, I posted that I had Jackal on top obviously, considerably lower were you and Mau about equal, and then Zinto / BK as most trusted.
I did the exact same thing today, with mau/chubby/zinto and having zinto slightly higher. But I'm tired of this at this point. If that's the way people are deciding, that's the way people are deciding! I don't think I'm going to be able to convince anyone else that you're playing them.
Chubby
07-20-2011, 08:51 PM
But that's just one attack, what about all the rest?
If my character has 10 hp and takes 4 damage, I won't be ibjured (below 25 per cent hp) and iyou won't see I'm at 6 health but I still would be
Zinto
07-20-2011, 08:52 PM
If you are not a wolf Jackal sorry that we put you through probably an extremely frustrating day.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:53 PM
If you are not a wolf Jackal sorry that we put you through probably an extremely frustrating day.
It's been an extremely frustrating three or so days, but thank you. :)
You offered to prove your innocece but didn't want to get accused of stalling. "I can prove my innocence but you have to wait", we can't stall at this point in the game and u were advocating it to save yourself!
I offered to show I could still use my ability, it only clears me if you reasonably expect I would use that ability as you would expect a wolf would (kill off weak villager characters for example).
Chubby
07-20-2011, 08:54 PM
Besides, I think if dv moves onto jag we can take them both out and hopefully end the game
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:56 PM
Besides, I think if dv moves onto jag we can take them both out and hopefully end the game
This is true, I'm probably dead whether or not DV votes for me. So if you want to settle this truly you can vote for JAG and we'll likely both die. Though that's probably not the best course of action, you should probably choose one or the other of us.
I did the exact same thing today, with mau/chubby/zinto and having zinto slightly higher. But I'm tired of this at this point. If that's the way people are deciding, that's the way people are deciding! I don't think I'm going to be able to convince anyone else that you're playing them.
The difference is you never even seriously tried to make that case to start the day or even reveal that was your thinking. You just attacked me, who would be fourth on your list.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 08:58 PM
you really think that would work? why?
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 08:58 PM
The difference is you never even seriously tried to make that case to start the day or even reveal that was your thinking. You just attacked me, who would be fourth on your list.
What do you expect? You've been hot after me for four days. You are my default #1, even if I didn't think you were the likeliest wolf. There's nothing saying you aren't a wolf.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 08:58 PM
what's the advantage?
Zinto
07-20-2011, 08:59 PM
Don't do it if you do and there are two wolves they win.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 08:59 PM
unattack keyser
attack melisandre
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 09:00 PM
what's the advantage?
of attempting to kill both of us? you don't have to go through and figure out if one or the other was pulling the wool over your head. the game might be over if jag is the last wolf. those are the advantages. otherwise if he's still around you're gonna be voting for him tomorrow and giving the wolves another night to kill people instead of deciding who's the last target
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:00 PM
unattack melisandre
attack keyser
Zinto
07-20-2011, 09:00 PM
Er maybe they don't but still don't do it.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:00 PM
jag can die tomorrow if jackal is legit
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 09:01 PM
unattack melisandre
attack keyser
:confused:
Danny
07-20-2011, 09:01 PM
Deadline
Danny
07-20-2011, 09:01 PM
Final
Keyser: Melisandre, Dwight, Mal, Jayne, Athena, Cthulu
Melisandre: Keyser, Super Grover, Oscar
It's a guarantee I will be at least Wounded tonight.
Danny
07-20-2011, 09:02 PM
Melisandre is killed. JAG was a villager.
Keyser Soze is killed. Jackal was a wolf.
Danny
07-20-2011, 09:03 PM
I will now process character interactions.
Vindication...and death. Good luck village.
The Jackal
07-20-2011, 09:04 PM
I tip my cap to you, JAG.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 09:04 PM
I think for now on I am going to go with Jackal is always a wolf so we should vote for him on day one. :)
Chubby
07-20-2011, 09:06 PM
Sucks to lose a villager but I knew there had to be a wolf between them
Danny
07-20-2011, 09:07 PM
Character actions sent out. Night deadline is tomorrow at 9am eastern.
hoopsguy
07-20-2011, 09:07 PM
I think for now on I am going to go with Jackal is always a wolf so we should vote for him on day one. :)
It is surprising to me how rarely people don't hold to these kind of declared strategies over a series of games :)
CrimsonFox
07-20-2011, 09:11 PM
I still think hoops is a wolf. Kill him again. Kill him again. HARDER! HARDER!
It's past day 2!
mauchow
07-20-2011, 09:12 PM
I was awaiting a hopeful PM from Danny and then I realized for all the time I was online today I never submitted a fuckin' interaction to Danny.
At least the villagers will get one interaction as long as there was at least one villager on each potential interaction.
I'm so ticked at myself right now. Ah, well.
Chubby
07-20-2011, 09:12 PM
I tip my hat to whoever the last wolf is. I guessed wrong and they will win by my math. 4-1 has to be right now, nk makes it 3-1, my lynch makes it 2-1 and another nk wins it for the wolves. Hopefully somebody has a kickass ability they've been saving. I saved oscars and I have to use it tonight. Not scared at all of a nk because I'm the key to victory
Chubby
07-20-2011, 09:14 PM
I was awaiting a hopeful PM from Danny and then I realized for all the time I was online today I never submitted a fuckin' interaction to Danny.
At least the villagers will get one interaction as long as there was at least one villager on each potential interaction.
I'm so ticked at myself right now. Ah, well.
Convienient. Quoted to remind myself tomorrow.
mauchow
07-20-2011, 09:19 PM
Says the one who voted the freakin' villager.
mauchow
07-20-2011, 09:20 PM
Jackal threw my name out there so many times tonight that it'd be hilarious for anyone to think at this point that I'm the final wolf.
mauchow
07-20-2011, 09:20 PM
I was caring for me little ailing son for the past few hours and didn't think to check back in thinking the night was over.. I probably would have remember to submit my interaction had the little man not been down with a mini fever. Like I said, ah, well.
Autumn
07-20-2011, 09:21 PM
:popcorn:
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:24 PM
sweet, good deal. 1 more mongrel to go!
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:26 PM
this game is coming down to the wire
Chubby
07-20-2011, 09:26 PM
Jackal threw my name out there so many times tonight that it'd be hilarious for anyone to think at this point that I'm the final wolf.
I don't think it's you FWIW.
I was caring for me little ailing son for the past few hours and didn't think to check back in thinking the night was over.. I probably would have remember to submit my interaction had the little man not been down with a mini fever. Like I said, ah, well.
don't sweat it, with a 2 year old I more than know how that goes.
Because I'm most likely f'd for guessing wrong anyways, I won Dick Solomon. YAY I finally win an interaction when I'm screwed lol
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:28 PM
I don't think it's you FWIW.
Why is that? Wasnt everyone saying that Zinto and brakeep were either both good or both wolves? Explain your reasoning
Chubby
07-20-2011, 09:31 PM
Why is that? Wasnt everyone saying that Zinto and brakeep were either both good or both wolves? Explain your reasoning
In games I've played where mau is a wolf (or one's I've read, been trying to read other games lately where the remaining people in this game were wolves to get a feel) he has played much different than this game. I hope I will find out more with Oscar's ability but it's not a guaranteed success and I might not even find out anything useful.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:35 PM
then how do you explain the barkeep zinto situation?
mauchow
07-20-2011, 09:36 PM
then how do you explain the barkeep zinto situation?
that leaves you dv
Zinto
07-20-2011, 09:37 PM
Barkeep and I both do not need to be wolves for me to be a wolf.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 09:37 PM
And voting for DV tomorrow is such a terrible play I hope no one does it.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:40 PM
im not saying you both have to be wolves but people kept saying that if i wanted to attack barkeep i might as well attack you too because of the interaction between you two
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:41 PM
who would you pick?
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:41 PM
all 3 of you, who would you pick?
mauchow
07-20-2011, 09:41 PM
And voting for DV tomorrow is such a terrible play I hope no one does it.
my guess his defense is just high, not impenetrable. how many attacks did he have the few times we tried? i'm gonna go look.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 09:42 PM
I cleared Barkeep so the only way he would be a wolf is if I was a wolf that was lying, that way if you attacked me first and found out I was a villager then he would have to be a villager. If you attacked and killed Barkeep first then I could still be a wolf or villager so it would not make sense to kill him first.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 09:44 PM
I do not know who I am going to pick tomorrow and I am not going to make a decision tonight. All three of us will be alive tomorrow it makes literally no sense for the wolves to keep Barkeep alive at this point. I want to sleep on it and then look over everything before tomorrow.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:44 PM
so you say it's eiher me or chubby then correct?
Zinto
07-20-2011, 09:45 PM
No it is either Mau or Chubby.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:46 PM
oh yeah, i said that wrong
mauchow
07-20-2011, 09:46 PM
Cthulu: Hulk, Athena, Dwight
Zinto
07-20-2011, 09:46 PM
You are not a wolf DV you can't be killed by us and I am not wasting my vote on you tomorrow. Barkeep is not a wolf I am 100% sure on that. The only other two places are Mau and Chubby.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:47 PM
what say you mau and chubby?
Chubby
07-20-2011, 09:47 PM
No it is either Mau or Chubby.
I don't think this is entirely accurate. It would be a horrible play to NK me tonight so I fully expect to be around in the AM. I, however, do not want to influence the NK decision by tipping my belief of why things are the way they are.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:47 PM
i just made a posting error is all. voting me would be ridiculous
mauchow
07-20-2011, 09:47 PM
No it is either Mau or Chubby.
you or chubby or dv
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:49 PM
zinto didnt say you would be nightkilled
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:51 PM
Five left yes? barkeep is out and Im not a wolf (couldnt lynch me anyways) so that leaves mau, chubby, and zinto.
Just thinking out loud
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:51 PM
You know what I mean
Chubby
07-20-2011, 09:52 PM
zinto didnt say you would be nightkilled
me? i fully expect to be alive in the morning due to guessing wrong today, i really thought we could win it for the village by taking out the last wolf. not only did i guess wrong on who the wolf was in my final tier, but i guessed wrong at the number of wolves in the game.
Chubby
07-20-2011, 09:53 PM
i'm off to bed, will cross my fingers on Oscar's ability (I'll need it)
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:54 PM
I don't think this is entirely accurate. It would be a horrible play to NK me tonight so I fully expect to be around in the AM. I, however, do not want to influence the NK decision by tipping my belief of why things are the way they are.
What do you mean by this quote then?
mauchow
07-20-2011, 09:58 PM
I actually think it's funny that Chubby is planting all of these things that are possibly going to happen overnight so then when he isn't night killed he can say, YES IT WORKED!1 I'M ALIVE!
Chubby's got to be a higher percentage to be a wolf than anybody right now.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 09:58 PM
that's the way it looks
Barkeep49
07-20-2011, 10:05 PM
I admit to being amazed that this game isn't over.
mauchow
07-20-2011, 10:11 PM
that's the way it looks
Then I'll laugh at myself when he is a villager.
But as a wolf, if he doesn't put an attack on JAG last night he's gotta believe JAG is cleared and then all it would take is JAG and CO to kill me and Chubby for the win. Not sure the wolves had much of a chance here in the end.
mauchow
07-20-2011, 10:12 PM
Then I'll laugh at myself when he is a villager.
But as a wolf, if he doesn't put an attack on JAG last night he's gotta believe JAG is cleared and then all it would take is JAG and CO to kill me and Chubby for the win. Not sure the wolves had much of a chance here in the end.
I say me and Chubby because it seems we've been the next on everyone's list. I think it's between Zinto and Chubby with DV to a lesser degree.
Zinto
07-20-2011, 10:13 PM
Barkeep any nuggets of wisdom you want to give us since more then likely you are going to be night killed.
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 10:14 PM
such pressure
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 10:15 PM
yeah Bk. what say you?
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 10:26 PM
You suck BK lol
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 10:46 PM
chubby's behavior today makes himlook like the last wolf but when i think about it wouldnt the last wolf remain as low as possible?
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 10:46 PM
Thinking out loud again. And padding the post count :-)
Darth Vilus
07-20-2011, 11:50 PM
Dwight: TMIMITW
Harry Potter: Goo (296)
Gonzo: Duke Nuke 'Em (286), Jack Bauer (290) zoe(391) Jayne(391) Malcolm (391), doormouse
Beaker: Athena (294), Harry Potter (345), Hulk
Heavy: VAHVN (315), Mad Hatter
Mrs. Doubtfire: Keyser Soze (319) gonzo (385)
MIMITW: Thursday Next (321) macho man (358) hulk hogan (358) miss elizabeth (358) melisandre (370) dwight, piggy, kermit, animal, swedish chef, marchhare
zoe: Cookie monster (343)
Mad Hatter: Super grover (343)
Miss Piggy: oscar the grouch (343)
Keyser Soze: heavy (361)
The Hulk: cthulhu (?) mrs doubtfire (412), Sauron (419)
Goo: Honeydew (375), Beaker (375)
Darth Vilus
07-21-2011, 12:44 AM
One way or another, tomorrow is gonna be epic
Chubby
07-21-2011, 04:19 AM
I actually think it's funny that Chubby is planting all of these things that are possibly going to happen overnight so then when he isn't night killed he can say, YES IT WORKED!1 I'M ALIVE!
Chubby's got to be a higher percentage to be a wolf than anybody right now.
Not trying to plant anything, I think the village has a better shot at still pulling out a win if I get NKd. And trust me, I know I will be painted as the last wolf and deservedly so due to my epic F up yesterday. I gambled and lost on both who the wolf was between JAG/Jackal and how many wolves there were left.
I'm off to work, won't be home til 3:30-4pm EST as usual. I fully expect to not only be alive but to have most if not all the votes on me by that time. I'm the easy lynch tomorrow, why would the last wolf NK me tonight? He wouldn't :banghead:
I'm not confidant in getting any good info from Oscar's ability but it isn't that great
mauchow
07-21-2011, 08:58 AM
The suspense!
The Jackal
07-21-2011, 09:14 AM
http://www.endlessinnovationblog.com/.a/6a00d83451c07669e2014e88855f9a970d-800wi
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Results are now being posted
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Athena has been killed. Barkeep was a villager
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:17 AM
But wait, what is that in the distance?
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:18 AM
It looks like a hungry Cthulu
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:18 AM
BRRRRRRRGWJRRRRHHHHHHHHH
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:19 AM
Suddenly Cthulu comes into view and looks hungry
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:19 AM
He picks up Super Grover, Oscar, Dwight, Mal and Jayne
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:20 AM
And lets out another big BRRRRRRRRRRRRRBFBBBBBBBB
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:21 AM
He then sprinkles some salt and pepper on all of the characters, getting ready
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:23 AM
He then looks at all of them again and throws away Dwight, Mal and Jayne because they look too plain, but Oscar and Super Grover look just right
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:23 AM
He then engulfs them whole!
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:23 AM
Super Grover and Oscar are dead. Chubby was the last wolf.
The villagers win! Cthulu wins!
The Jackal
07-21-2011, 10:24 AM
Boo! Cheating! Recount!
Zinto
07-21-2011, 10:24 AM
Hooray for Cthulu!
The Jackal
07-21-2011, 10:24 AM
Good game village
Autumn
07-21-2011, 10:25 AM
Wow, wth
The Jackal
07-21-2011, 10:26 AM
Chubby is gonna be pissed
Zinto
07-21-2011, 10:26 AM
Thanks for running the game Danny and Happy Birthday!
The Jackal
07-21-2011, 10:27 AM
Oh yeah, happy birthday!
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:28 AM
This game easily could have gone either way at the end. If only Jag gets lynched yesterday, the wolves almost certainly win. If DV picks someone else, wolves probably win. If DV chooses not to kill anyone, wolves have a decent shot as the village just may not have enough attack to take out Chubby
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:29 AM
Thanks guys!
And thanks to everyone for playing. I had fun running the game and am happy with how it turned out.
Autumn
07-21-2011, 10:31 AM
So DV had a special night attack ability he could use once, is that the deal?
Autumn
07-21-2011, 10:31 AM
Definitely would like to see everybody's characters.
Sorry village for being no help really after day one (though I take credit for a block ... I did get a block, right?)
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:33 AM
Yes, it sacrificed 24 hours of his life though. If he missed, he was out of the game. I'll post the characters now
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:34 AM
Let's meet our characters now!
mauchow
07-21-2011, 10:34 AM
Well I couldn't be night killed right? So even if cthulu tried he would have failed and we'd be voting today right?
Good game guys!
Thanks Danny.
The Jackal
07-21-2011, 10:34 AM
Definitely would like to see everybody's characters.
Sorry village for being no help really after day one (though I take credit for a block ... I did get a block, right?)
Yeah, we went after hoops N1.
Fun fact, I killed everyone except for BK. Felt like a good purpose for Keyser. ;)
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:34 AM
First up is a hot tottie who bleeds Crimson, say hello to CrimsonFox!
Dormouse 1 hp, 0 defense, 0 attack, during then night phase can prevent a specific player from taking their night action. \
Mad Hatter, 5 HP, 1 defense, 1 attack, has a daily special ability to attempt to hammer crush on an opponent. This adds 2 attack value to his total, but has a chance of failing.
March Hare 3HP, 2 defense, 1 attack, can target one player during the day phase to have their actions targeted to a different (random) player.
mauchow
07-21-2011, 10:35 AM
Jayne for me was still holding onto a night kill block for me..
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:35 AM
Well I couldn't be night killed right? So even if cthulu tried he would have failed and we'd be voting today right?
Good game guys!
Thanks Danny.
Yes, but he would have been out of the game and I don't think you guys would have had the attack power left to take out Chubby with Cthulu gone.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:36 AM
Tyrith – Vice Admiral Horatio Viscount Nelson
10 HP, 1 Attack, 2 Defense, Due to his excellent leadership, you have a passive ability that guarentees you succeed at whichever daily adventure you choose (additional abilities can be granted through these adventures, so this is actually a pretty powerful ability)
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:37 AM
Autumn - Animal, Miss Piggy, Swedish Chef, Beaker, Professor Honeydew, Kermit & Gonzo
Each Muppet has 1 HP, 0 defense and 1 attack value. This means overall your muppets will die easily, but you have a lot of attack power, especially early in the game. Additionally, you will be able to go on different adventures that may give you bonuses as the game goes on.
Because of your ability to go on different adventures and pick up bonus abilities, you only have one starting special ability. During the night phase, you may choose one Muppet to power up for the following day. That muppet receives a random defense value of 1-5 for that day.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:38 AM
NTN- Thursday Next
7 HP, 1 Attack, 0 Defense
She has the ability for one day and one night phase (can be separate days) to hide out in a book. If she does so during the night phase, she takes you along with her and you will be protected from targeted night abilities. When done during the lynch phase, she will be immune to regular attack damage (may still be targeted from certain special abilities
Additionally, you have a once per game ability to banish a character from play for 24 hours. During this time, their owner can still post in thread, but that character can not take actions or use special abilities.
mauchow
07-21-2011, 10:38 AM
Had he used it yet? If not glad I put him down with Indy Jones.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:39 AM
Cthulu- You have 1-5 attack value, 0 defense or hp; however you simply can’t be killed; however, you need your eternal slumber, so you are only in the game for 5 days. However each wolf that is found, adds 1 day to your life cycle. Using abilities tires you out and shortens your game length by 1 cycle per ability used.
You have one time use to instantly kill a player during the night phase(may be stopped by special abilities) Shortens your life span by one day
The Jackal
07-21-2011, 10:39 AM
Had he used it yet? If not glad I put him down with Indy Jones.
It was passive, so he won an interaction each night before you killed him.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:39 AM
NTN used all his abilities.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:40 AM
Jag - Melisandre of Asshai 12 HP, 1 Attack, 0 Defense
You have the ability see future events. During each night phase, you can predict a player’s following day actions (this includes who they attack and whether or not they use a special action). Because you are alright correct, that player will be forced to take your actions. Can’t be used on the same player more than once per game.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:40 AM
Mauboy - Malcolm Reynolds, Chloe and Jayne
Malcolm 3 hp, 1defense, 1 attack, You are the captain of this crew, as such, when both of your crewmates vote with you, you gain an extra attack point and defense.
Chloe, 3 HP, 0 defense, 1 attack, she gains a slight bonus for going on missions.
Jayne 3HP, 1 defense, 1 attack, during the night you can absorb any night kill attempt made on Mauboy as a one time ability. You will not know if this succeeded or not.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:41 AM
The Jackal - Keyser Soze 9 HP, 1 Attack, 0 Defense
As you are hard to find you will automatically ignore the first attack on you each day.
You have a one time passive ability during the night to switch yourself with another player. If you do, all night abilities targeting you will target them instead.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:41 AM
Mckerney – Heavy
10 HP, 1 Defense, 1 Attack, each day you will pm a special weapon you wish to use for the day. Each day it must be a different weapon each day and your bonus will depend on the weapon you choose.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:41 AM
Eaglefan – Duke Nukem
12 HP, 1 Defense, 1 Attack, at any time during the game you can sacrifice life points to add to your attack for the day, up to your health. This could kill you if you choose to sacrifice all of your health.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:41 AM
Barkeep – Athena
9 HP, 1 Defense, 1 Attack , you recharge 2 Hp per night as opposed to the standard one. Additionally, once per game you may call on the power of the other gods to aid you, and you will be protected from death that entire 24 hour cycle. You can use this ability any time and it is good for 24 game hours.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:42 AM
Schmidty – Bruce Banner / The Hulk
13 HP, 0 Defense, 1 attack
Every time someone chooses to attack you, gain an attack point for the day, additionally, you recharge 2 hp per night as opposed to 1.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:42 AM
Zinto - Dwight Schrute
10 HP, 0 Defense, 1 Attack
Every night you may choose one fellow office character to assist you for that night / day. Depending on who you choose is what bonus they will grant you.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:42 AM
J23- The Most Interesting Man in the World 10 HP, 1 Defense, 1 Attack, Each night you must come up with a different saying for your character. Your bonus will depend on the saying you use.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:42 AM
PackerFanatic- Jack Bauer
11 HP, 1 Defense, 1 Attack
Each night you may interrogate a player. What type of info you find out will depend on the player.
Additionally, once in the game you can order the use of a bomb. When used, it will have a 75% chance of hitting your target and dealing 5 damage, and a 25% chance of hitting yourself for 5 damage.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:43 AM
Chubby - Super Grover 2.0, Cookie Monster, Oscar the Grouch
Each muppet has 3 hp, 0 defense and 1 attack
Additionally, Super Grover may as a one time ability fly to save another character from death during the day cycle (can you be yours or someone elses). Cookie Monster is crazy for cookies, each day 1-3 characters will have eaten cookies, cookie monster will then gain a bonus attack vs them. Oscar the grouch can once per game hide in a trash can to block 2 total damage.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:43 AM
Dubb- "Macho Man" Randy Savage (5 HP, 1 Defense, 1 attack), Hulk Hogan (5 HP, 1 defense, 1 attack) and Miss Elizabeth (1 HP, 0 defense, 0 attack.
Savage has the ability to protect Elizabeth by taking damage instead of her. Miss Elizabeth while alive grants a defense points to both savage and Hogan. Addtionally, each character has a once per game body slam ability which allows them to deal an extra point of damage.
The Jackal
07-21-2011, 10:43 AM
BK, did you use that 24 hour ability when you said you did? We figured it was a bluff and that you'd use it the next night.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:43 AM
Daddytorgo, Mrs. Doubtfire. 10 HP, 0 defense, 1 Attack.
You are a master of disguise. Once per game (due at the night phase), you may disguise yourself as another character. You take damage if that character does, but not if you do. Additionally, every day you babysit another character, reducing the damage they take by 1.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:44 AM
Cougarfreak- Goo, 1 Hp. 0 defense, 1 attack. Each night you replicate, gaining an additional goo which has 1 hp and 1 attack. This counts as a separate character that must be killed on its own. In addition, since you are so easy to kill day 1, you are immune from all day 1 damage.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:44 AM
Hoopsguy- Sauron
14 HP, 1 Defense, 1 Attack. You have the watching ability. Each night, you can scan another player to gain into about their stats and abilities.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:44 AM
Lathum- Harry Potter 9 HP, 1 Defense, 1 Attack, each night choose to cast a spell (try to make a real one from the books / movies. Each spell will have a different affect depending on what you cast.
The Jackal
07-21-2011, 10:45 AM
Those sound like fun abilities for Zinto and J. I'd like to know what happened with your picks, Z!
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:49 AM
BK, did you use that 24 hour ability when you said you did? We figured it was a bluff and that you'd use it the next night.
He used it day before last, but he had an order in the day he said he was going to use it. He took the order back last minute, so he wasn't bluffing, but did change his mind.
Autumn
07-21-2011, 10:50 AM
That's awesome for TMIMITW, Danny, totally awesome.
Danny
07-21-2011, 10:51 AM
I think the game balance turned out very well, but do people feel there was too much hidden information?
Zinto
07-21-2011, 10:56 AM
Those sound like fun abilities for Zinto and J. I'd like to know what happened with your picks, Z!
I forgot to send in my order on night one which was lame. Night two I picked Jim and he gave me the ability to lower two characters defenses to zero and I chose Crimson. Night three I picked Michael and I had the ability to quote three people's posts and say "that's what she said" to do one damage to them. Night four I picked Andy and he would attack any of the characters who attacked me. Night five I picked Pam and she could copy anyone's attack. Night six I picked Ryan and he gave me the additional attack power if I was the last attack. Night Seven I picked Creed and he did one damage to everyone in the game.
Danny did Creed cause Jag to die?
mauchow
07-21-2011, 10:56 AM
I guess my guys were pretty powerful when looking at AP and defnse altogether. I figured people had higher APs. Fun game Danny. I was hoping I'd have been nkd tonight but this result works too. Good job cthulu on the right move!
Zinto
07-21-2011, 10:57 AM
I feel like the game was balanced fine. Everyone had a chance to win in the end and I did not feel like there was a lack of information.
Zinto
07-21-2011, 10:58 AM
Also Danny did you have the rest of the Office's powers thought up? If you did will you post them? Getting different powers each day was my favorite thing about the game.
The Jackal
07-21-2011, 10:59 AM
Night three I picked Michael and I had the ability to quote three people's posts and say "that's what she said" to do one damage to them.
:D
Danny did Creed cause Jag to die?
I won Conan the night before and he attacked with me, so that was probably the main reason.
Autumn
07-21-2011, 10:59 AM
I didn't have any problems with balance that were noticeable. I think the information was hidden the right amount. As a village we probably should have pressed for more reveals there, to root people out. But it's the kind of game a wolf can reveal their powers and not necessarily get caught, which I always like as a wolf.
Zinto
07-21-2011, 11:01 AM
I know. The that's what she said quote was my favorite. Too bad I chickened out and did not use it once. Even though I was going to use it on Autumn since I seriously thought he was a wolf.
Danny
07-21-2011, 11:01 AM
Also Danny did you have the rest of the Office's powers thought up? If you did will you post them? Getting different powers each day was my favorite thing about the game.
I'd like to say I did, but no. While I had things in mind for them, I created them each time you made a request.
Autumn
07-21-2011, 11:03 AM
I liked the idea that with the hitpoints and attacks, we could end up in a spot where we knew the last wolves but couldn't kill them. That lent a new layer of strategy ... but then I felt we didn't really know enough to actually strategize about it. So I kind of felt there was something additional we could have done there, or that could have been added to the game, but I haven't quite figured out how that would work. Having transparent hit points but keep everything else hidden? I don't know. I think I liked the fact that we had to say things like "Hulk isn't our biggest suspect, but if we don't kill him now we might never be able to."
Danny
07-21-2011, 11:03 AM
I didn't have any problems with balance that were noticeable. I think the information was hidden the right amount. As a village we probably should have pressed for more reveals there, to root people out. But it's the kind of game a wolf can reveal their powers and not necessarily get caught, which I always like as a wolf.
Yeah and I really did create all the powers first and then picked the wolves last minute to try and avoid that.
I was actually surprised that CHubby did not take more heat for claiming Super Grover to have a completely pro village power (scan for a wolf) when I wouldn't have given an ability like that
The Jackal - Keyser Soze 9 HP, 1 Attack, 0 Defense
As you are hard to find you will automatically ignore the first attack on you each day.
Son of a...
Cthulu, way to go! Nice work.
Nelson's power was pretty strong in my opinion, we were lucky to get rid of him relatively early. Lots of cool powers.
Pretty good job by wolves and villagers both this game in my opinion.
Thanks Danny, this was a great idea for a game and great execution of it.
Autumn
07-21-2011, 11:04 AM
Too bad I chickened out and did not use it
That's what she said.
Danny
07-21-2011, 11:06 AM
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Danny did Creed cause Jag to die?
No, Chubby had won Conan who gave him additional damage, so he would have died anyway.
Do you have a list of what powers the special characters did? (aka, can you pad the post count a bit more?)
Yeah, we went after hoops N1.
Fun fact, I killed everyone except for BK. Felt like a good purpose for Keyser. ;)
Did you also kill their families?
Jackal, one other thing, not sure if you were making up the 3 AP thing you were talking about with Cthulu, but it was actually Chubby's characters helping me that day. That actually made me wonder if Chubby was lying about his AP.
Danny
07-21-2011, 11:23 AM
I didn't save each character, but I remember them I am sure. I'll go back through each day and post them. In general I tried to make their given ability fit with who they were. The exception was the seer, especially with having an auto win character out there, the seer power was picked randomly.
Danny
07-21-2011, 11:25 AM
Jag, actually they miscalculated. Chubby did only two damage. Keyser ignored your attack, so he took two damage and healed one bringing him down from 6 to 5 health.
Barkeep49
07-21-2011, 11:25 AM
He used it day before last, but he had an order in the day he said he was going to use it. He took the order back last minute, so he wasn't bluffing, but did change his mind.
I had thought I was originally at risk of getting both NK and of being lynched the next day so I used it. When it was clear that dubb had bought me some time I decided to bluff. Since my potential to bluff was obvious I decided not to use it the next night figuring you all might figure I was bluffing. Thought for sure you'd go after me the following night. I was off by 1 night. Shucks.
Danny
07-21-2011, 11:27 AM
Day 1 Characters:
1. Barney Stinson (protective suit blocking targeted night abilities)
2. Boba Fett (I think he would attack a player, but I can't remember exactly)
3. Samwise Gangee (bodyguard)
4. Holden Caufield (decoy, did nothing)
5. Captain Kirk (seer)
CrimsonFox
07-21-2011, 11:27 AM
Here was my character submission. Enjoy! (obviously most of it didn't enter this game which I figured it wouldn't, but it was fun writing)
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[/FONT][FONT=Comic Sans MS][B]The March Hare - The Master of Chaos and the Perpetrator of Puns. [/B]
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][IMG]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdeu6ms1EXIrDHgsied84wJ1RfGnSpAD_NRJzx22A4Ft9d3t0S&t=1[/IMG]
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]This Rascally Rabbit
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]Has a very bad habit
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]As he likes to bounce here and bounce there
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]He will welcome you in
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]With a devillish grin
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]Garbed in coat and tie quite debonair!
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]
Then he swears and he shouts
And he tumbles about
Yelling "CHANGE SEATS!" with maddening stare
When he hollers "MOVE DOWN!"
He will cause you to frown
As you find yourself Out on your R'ar.
You'll be bounced to and fro
Twixt his ears you will go
As he batters you blue through the air
If you target this bunny
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]He'll find it quite funny
You'll end up in his place, so beware!
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]"Clean cup Clean cup!"
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]Will even erupt
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]With a chaos and magical flair
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]As everyone changes
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]With move rearranges
[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]A dangerous one, The March Hare[/FONT]
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