WW CXXIV: When Worlds Collide - Game Over!

[Barkeep49]

mckerney was voted by Tyrith and CF D1, both wolves (presumably), and no one else. That was the only real takeaway I had from his vote.
Huh.

[Zinto]

Well I am not going to leave my vote on the Hulk since I don't want to waste it.

Dwight unattacks the Hulk.

[Barkeep49]

Seeing this dead discussion does make me more inclined to targeting an UTR radar player if no one is wanting to join me on mau (who I still like as a target).

[Zinto]

I am not sold on Mau currently and I would much rather target an UTR player. I don't want to waste my vote on Admiral Nelson and I am not sure how many votes Mrs. Doubtfire has but I feel like an attack on "her" maybe a waste also.

[Zinto]

And more so then that I am not completely sold on DT being a wolf

[Zinto]

If you are willing to move onto an UTR player Barkeep then I think we should go with Cthulu over the Hulk just because the Hulk's vote is on Cthulu so we are bound to do more damage.

[Autumn]

I'm divided on Mauboy. I can definitely see what people are picking up on, but I'm half of the mind that it fits his villager play.

I really need some time, as what would be good would be a vote history laid out by player, not character. I'm not going to be able to do that though, so I'm just trying to go off posts. Which might be helping out the UTR players since they don't have a chance to ping me.

[Barkeep49]

Zinto: What about joining Hulk (certainly an UTR guy) on Cthulu?

[Barkeep49]

Ok based on our near simultainous posts I think I will join some others in targeting an UTR player as I think Nelson is done for today.

Athena unattack on Malcolm
Athena attack Cthulu

[Zinto]

Zinto: What about joining Hulk (certainly an UTR guy) on Cthulu?


You read my mind.

Dwight attacks Cthulu.

[EagleFan]

If you want to go UTR, go Thursday Next. Can't get much more UTR than that.

[EagleFan]

dola: instead of joining one UTR voting anothe UTR?

[ntndeacon]

If you want to go UTR, go Thursday Next. Can't get much more UTR than that.

actually you can

[Zinto]

I forgot Thursday next was playing so it is not a terrible idea. Hulk and Cthulu both have been more quiet but if Barkeep gets back then I will make the move since 3 people on one UTR is better then 2 on both.

[mauchow]

mau this is a post which concerns me. I don't get how you knew what EF could or couldn't confirm.
EF said it himself. He said "I may have been the one that got attacked tonight because of my ability to do so.."

I don't have time to find the post as I'm trying to catch up.. so I'm sure this has already been cleared up.

[mauchow]

I'd be fine with going with Thursday Next if anybody else wants to join..

[mauchow]

Despite cthulu killing off one of my characters, I'm not going to put an attack on him.. I feel more of a villager vibe than wolf..

[Zinto]

I think Cthulu has a better chance of being neutral then being a villager especially after his odd move to attack Sauron.

[Barkeep49]

I forgot Thursday next was playing so it is not a terrible idea. Hulk and Cthulu both have been more quiet but if Barkeep gets back then I will make the move since 3 people on one UTR is better then 2 on both.
Siince we have Hulk's vote on cthulu I would prefer to stay there. If we decided to switch to Thursday Next I could live with that (see ntn in the thread at the moment though).

[Zinto]

I guess I will make my move to Thursday Next if you do Malcolm and Jayne. Even though I fear that Cthulu's lack of presence is going to hurt us worst down the line.

[JAG]

So we have what, four people who declared their interact / attack intentions for today? Hopefully it was of more use to the villagers holding out than the wolves.

[Barkeep49]

I guess I will make my move to Thursday Next if you do Malcolm and Jayne. Even though I fear that Cthulu's lack of presence is going to hurt us worst down the line.
Why not just stay on Cthulu then?

[Zinto]

Well if Athena does not want to move more then likely I am going to stay. The sooner we remove an inactive Cthulu the better.

[Barkeep49]

So we have what, four people who declared their interact / attack intentions for today? Hopefully it was of more use to the villagers holding out than the wolves.
Of course we don't know, even among those of who declared, who will win or why.

[mauchow]

mal, jayne unattack doubtfire
mal jayne attack thursday next

[mauchow]

Go 1 Attack Power!

[JAG]

Of course we don't know, even among those of who declared, who will win or why.

No, but the point was for the village to try and coordinate so we didn't step on each other's toes. I'm guessing DT and DV at least have missed their chance to do so, so hopefully they aren't villagers.

[mauchow]

mal, jayne unattack thursday next
mal jayne attack mrs doubtfire
too late

[mauchow]

DIdn't realize it was already 9:00.

[Danny]

Deadline

The last attack counts.

[ntndeacon]

I figure with 7 on Tyrith that we had probably 1 morethan we need if we use the 11 hit points 2 attack and 2 defense that the the wrestlers had. I am willing to go after Cthulu tomorrow. (I am assuming that though he will get hit some but not completely out)

[Barkeep49]

No, but the point was for the village to try and coordinate so we didn't step on each other's toes. I'm guessing DT and DV at least have missed their chance to do so, so hopefully they aren't villagers.
Don't get me wrong I like attempt to coordinate and hopefully we pick some steam up with it tomorrow.

[Danny]

Going through PM's. If anyone could work on an attack list that would be helpful, but if not I will do it after going through PMs, it will just take a little longer.

[Danny]

Ok I have

Mellisandra: Swedish Chef
Admiral Nelson: Macho Man, Hulk Hogan, Jack, Super Grover, Oscar the Grouch, Thursday
Thursday Next: Duke
Swedish Chef: Admiral Nelson
Mrs. Doubtfire: Animal, Keyser Soze, Melisandra, Mal, Jayne
Cthulu: Hulk, Athena, Dwight

[Danny]

Missing attacks from mrs. doubtfire and cthulu it seems.

[dubb93]

<~~~~~~Thinks it is time to replace Cthulu

[Danny]

Cthulu attacks Duke Nuken and Mrs. Doubtfire attacks Thursday Next

[Danny]

Is there an attack from heavy?

[Danny]

Ah, he's on Admiral Nelson

[Danny]

Mrs. Doubtfire has been killed. Daddytorgo was a villager.

Mostly everyone else decides to barrage Admiral Nelson and while he normally would have been killed, another character seems to have just saved him from death. However, Nelson was knocked out again, rendering him unable to take any night actions.

There are also a few attacks on cthulu, but like before, he laughs at any attempt to damage him and takes no damage.

[mauchow]

Nelson has to be a wolf... unless he's got some help from the interaction characters..

[dubb93]

Nelson has to be a wolf... unless he's got some help from the interaction characters..

He's clearly a wolf since he attacked a muppet today for no reason and left. The real question is how do we kill him? Not sure how we eliminate him, but all accounts he has now been "lynched" twice and yet still survives.

[mauchow]

Well, obviously we need to consolidate EVERYONE on him tomorrow and not risk losing multiple villagers.

[EagleFan]

Day One<o:p></o<img>>

(257) – Hulk Hogan (dubb93) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(279) – Animal (Autumn) attacks dubb (invalid)
(279) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks BK (invalid)
(281) – Tyrith attacks mckerney (invalid)
(282) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks Lathum(invalid)
(282) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks Lathum(invalid)
(285) – Animal (Autumn) attacks Hulk Hogan (dubb93)
(285) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks Athena (BK)
(285) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(285) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(286) – Duke (EF) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(287) – Hulk Hogan (dubb) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(289) – Macho Man (dubb) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(290) – Jack Bauer (PF) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(294) – Athena (BK) attacks Beaker (Autumn)
(296) – Goo (cougar) attacksHarry Potter (Lathum)
(307) – Macho Man (dubb) unattacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(315) – Tyrith attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(319) – The Jackal attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(321) – ntn attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(342) – Dwight (Zinto) attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(343) – Cookie Monster (Chubby) attacks Chloe (who the f***is Chloe?)
(343) – Super Grover (Chubby) attacks Had Hatter (Crimson)
(343) – Oscar the Grouch (Chubby) attacks Miss Piggy(Autumn)
(345) – Lathum attacksBeaker (Autumn)
(357) – Zoe (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(357) – Jayne (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(357) – Malcolm (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(358) – Macho Man (dubb) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(358) – Hulk Hogan (dubb) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(358) – Miss Elizabeth (dubb) attacks TMIMITW (J23)
(361) – Heavy (mckerney) attacks Keyser (Jackal)
(370) – Mel (JAG) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(373) – Miss Piggy (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(373) – Kermit (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(373) – Chef (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(375) – Honeydew (Autumn) unattacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(375) – Beaker (Autumn) unattacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(375) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks Goo(cougar)
(375) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks Goo(cougar)
(385) – Gonzo (Autumn) unattacks Athena (BK)
(385) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(386) – Keyser (Jackal) unattacks Doubtfire(DT)
(386) – Keyser (Jackal) attacks Goo(cougar)
(389) – Keyser (Jackal) unattacks Goo(cougar)
(389) – Keyser (Jackal) attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(391) – Zoe (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Jayne (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Malcolm (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Jayne (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(391) – Zoe (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(391) – Malcolm (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(399) – Cthulu (DV) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty) – via messagefrom Danny
(409) – Animal (Autumn) unattacks Hulk Hogan (dubb)
(409) – Animal (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(411) – Zinto unattacks Heavy (mckerney)
(411) – Zinto attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(412) – DT attacks TheHulk (Schmidty)
(419) – hoops votes TheHulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Piggy (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Kermit (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Animal (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Chef (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Piggy (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Kermit (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Animal (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Chef (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(432) – Mad Hatter (Crimson)attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(435) – March Hare (Crimson)attacks TMIMITW (J23)
(437) – Dormouse (Crimson)attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(442) – Deadline

No submitted attacks: The Hulk (Schmidty) and TMIMITW (J23)

[mauchow]

A wolf isn't going to put a vote elsewhere if we all say we have to vote him. Make a runaway this time.

[dubb93]

I'm at a loss, Cthulu isn't around to explain why he can't take damage and the Admiral can't die it seems and certainly wouldn't tell us the truth about it even if we asked. Not sure where we go from here.

[EagleFan]

Head is pounding now so I am stopping there for the night. Have a good night all.

[Autumn]

Unless someone can vouch for why they helped Nelson, I agree with this thinking.

The abilities of Cthulhu worry me also though. How exactly are we supposed to deal with that beast? If we can't "attack" him out, we need to get some sort of scan or something on him.

[mauchow]

Cthulu's defense is higher than what the attack powers have been. So if we attack him it will have to be a mass attack as well.

[dubb93]

Alright Admiral Wolf. I see you around. Would you care to explain why you didn't die this time?

[Barkeep49]

At a certain point I would have to think Nelson's ability to be protected would have to run out? Do we have to kill a different player first before we can kill nelson? Same with Cthulu? All very puzzling.

[Tyrith]

No, I'm pretty clearly evil. I ain't telling you anything.

[mauchow]

I wouldn't be surprised if cthulu is something like 10 defense and 2 HP.

[dubb93]

No, I'm pretty clearly evil. I ain't telling you anything.

:D

[Barkeep49]

Cthulu's defense is higher than what the attack powers have been. So if we attack him it will have to be a mass attack as well.
If Cthulu has a high defense it might not matter how many of us attack him, it would only matter if people with a higher attack than his defense attack him.

[mauchow]

I figured defense would be cumulative against all our attacks. But I guess it could be individual. So if that is the case I have no idea what the defense might be because one of my characters had Zero defense.

[mauchow]

If Cthulu is a villager he should have no problem telling us what his defense is... right?

[dubb93]

If Cthulu is a villager he should have no problem telling us what his defense is... right?

Of course that is assuming he is around to tell us. I'm not sure he has been around in days.

[mauchow]

He didn't say sorry last night?

[JAG]

For Tyrith, the write-up said he would've died if another character didn't intervene. Seems pretty obvious to me he was saved by a one-time wolf power (possibly of a teammate?) and won't be able to survive another attack, though I don't understand the knocked out thing.

[Autumn]

I assume defense is against the cumulative attack. Which could be a problem if he makes it closer to end game and is a bad guy, we may not have enough firepower to face him.

[Zinto]

DV was here yesterday he apologized for missing the deadline and said he was busy with work. I am going to say it again I really think Cthulu is a neutral character and an extremely strong one at that.

[Danny]

I will talk to DV tonight and try and make sure he is more active. I'm pretty sure tomorrow is his day off from work.

[JAG]

For Cthulu, I'm with Zinto in thinking he's neutral and possibly unkillable like The Minotaur in the Labyrinth games.

[Danny]

Character actions have been processed

[JAG]

For Tyrith, the write-up said he would've died if another character didn't intervene. Seems pretty obvious to me he was saved by a one-time wolf power (possibly of a teammate?) and won't be able to survive another attack, though I don't understand the knocked out thing.

The one-time power might've been from an attack / interaction win too.

[Danny]

Night actions due at 9am eastern

[Darth Vilus]

yeah i have a day off tomorrow so i can be inifitely more active. i'm not a wolf, and i win with the village so my main goal, like evryone else, is to kill all the wolves. You guys can trust me on that. killing villagers doesnt help me in the slightest

[Darth Vilus]

And i can't be killed just because i'm ridiculously awesome :-) I can be beaten though, my strength does come at a price. i'll do my best to be a valuable player tomorrow

[Darth Vilus]

Once again, my apologies

[Darth Vilus]

what does evryone think about hulk and Athena?

[Chubby]

uugggh those weren't the results we were looking for. i, of course, did not get anywhere with my interaction yesterday either grrrrrrrrr

[mauchow]

Just a heads up. I was able to put an additional 4 damage on the Admiral with my night action last night after winning Indiana Jones. Hopefully that kills him for good.

[mauchow]

Just explaining this just in case I die.

[Danny]

Night actions are being processed.

[JAG]

Nice work Mau.

[The Jackal]

I failed to win Solid Snake, just an fyi in case I bite it here.

[Autumn]

Not once, I dont think, has anyone theorized how many wolves there are in the game. I guess that's Danny's job normally. Danny and Tyirith probably. Whoever else usually does that must be our other wolf.

[Autumn]

I failed to interact with Robin Hood.

[Danny]

Packerfanatic has been killed. He was a villager.

Additinally, Admiral Nelson has died, removing Tyrith from the game. He was a wolf.

Additionally, due to certain conditions being met, no more seer powers will be available from the daily characters.

[Barkeep49]

Ok so no player death? Hmm interesting. I failed in my interaction.

[Barkeep49]

Spoke too soon.

[Danny]

Health Updates going out now

[Danny]

Oh and I bet there is somewhere between 1 and 21 wolves in this game

[JAG]

I failed to win Ahab.

In case I die, I actually have a conviction for the first time this game. I feel pretty good about Jackal being a wolf (this is just analysis and feeling, not from scan-type info). His voting record is poor, including that he was the first to go after DT yesterday. As far as feeling, he's been very hands-off in trying to sort people out, guarded with his opinions, pretty much just going along with the group when it would help damage a villager, except yesterday when instead of the futile piling on on Tyrith, he helped to take out a wounded villager. After giving it some thought, I feel the same vibe I did last game when he was a wolf, the difference being it took me a lot longer this game than last. Unless someone reasonably trusted has some actionable info, I don't think I'll back off this one.

Melisandre attacks Keyser Soze

[The Jackal]

Well, that raises Mau a little in my book, at least for today. Though Tyrith was going down anyways so it can't be assumed that wasn't a trust buying move. Still, saved us some time today no doubt.

I would have thought PF would be the #1 BG target, so I guess either the wolves won that again or someone self-protected.

[JAG]

Obviously the in case I die part isn't relevant, I refreshed and saw night actions happened, so I added my bit about Ahab and my attack.

[The Jackal]

JAG I've been going after DT since day one, it's not like that was something new. It's not terribly surprising you're zoning in on me since DT and you have been tossed around as candidates for a couple of days now.

At the time when I voted DT there were a ton of votes on Tyrith. Even if I had voted for him he presumably would have survived thanks to whatever ability was used.

[Danny]

Health updates sent, if you did not get one, you are at full health

[The Jackal]

Now, I don't have any solid information to give you, nor does my ability relate to information gathering, so I'm not crucial to anything here. It's unfortunate we don't get anymore seer scans, but maybe one was used last night?

[Barkeep49]

My guess is that we get no more seer scans since we're below a certain number of wolves.

[mauchow]

Woot ! Glad to finally help the village. Now we don't have to waste a day in focusing on admiral as he admitted to being a wolf.

Today will most certainly be interesting to see how it all pans out.

[Tyrith]

I want to be Lord Nelson in post #2 now, fair is fair ;)

Sorry I wasn't more active the first couple of days. Enjoy the chaos.

[Danny]

Today's characters.

Sauron
Harry Potter
Jack Bauer

[Danny]

Those three had their controllers killed, but are still alive and looking for some action!

[JAG]

JAG I've been going after DT since day one, it's not like that was something new. It's not terribly surprising you're zoning in on me since DT and you have been tossed around as candidates for a couple of days now.

At the time when I voted DT there were a ton of votes on Tyrith. Even if I had voted for him he presumably would have survived thanks to whatever ability was used.

Only Autumn mentioned me as a candidate?

Why is it not surprising I'd zone in on you in particular? As far as I can recall, no one has of yet mentioned you as a candidate. If I were a wolf, I would rather zone in on someone people have already mentioned as being suspicious.

[The Jackal]

Only Autumn mentioned me as a candidate?

Why is it not surprising I'd zone in on you in particular? As far as I can recall, no one has of yet mentioned you as a candidate. If I were a wolf, I would rather zone in on someone people have already mentioned as being suspicious.

I thought others had discussed you're play as being slightly off, though I could be wrong.

I meant it wasn't surprising because of DT being good, I should have elaborated instead of assuming you'd get what was in my head. I knew if he turned up good I'd get looked at since I've voted for him three times.

[JAG]

Here's something to think about guys. We don't want to get to a situation where we have say two villagers and one wolf left, or maybe not even 3 on 2, because we may not have enough firepower to take out the remaining wolves before they NK us. Unless people have some super cool abilities that would help in such a situation, because I don't see it happening just with standard attacks.

[EagleFan]

attack Thursday Next

I won an interaction with Robin Hood last night which gave me the power to "borrow" someone's power for the night. I borrowed Jack Bauer's and received an interogation ability.

I found out some information about ntn. It doesn't say that he is, or isn't a wolf, but I would be interested to hear what he has to say about his character today.

[mckerney]

Additinally, Admiral Nelson has died, removing Tyrith from the game. He was a wolf.

Ha! You are dead. Now I come for the rest of you.

[EagleFan]

Updating with the new information.

Day One<O:p></O<IMG>>

(257) – Hulk Hogan (dubb93) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(279) – Animal (Autumn) attacks dubb (invalid)
(279) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks BK (invalid)
(281) – Tyrith attacks mckerney (invalid)
(282) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks Lathum(invalid)
(282) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks Lathum(invalid)
(285) – Animal (Autumn) attacks Hulk Hogan (dubb93)
(285) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks Athena (BK)
(285) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(285) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(286) – Duke (EF) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(287) – Hulk Hogan (dubb) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(289) – Macho Man (dubb) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(290) – Jack Bauer (PF) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(294) – Athena (BK) attacks Beaker (Autumn)
(296) – Goo (cougar) attacksHarry Potter (Lathum)
(307) – Macho Man (dubb) unattacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(315) – Tyrith attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(319) – The Jackal attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(321) – ntn attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(342) – Dwight (Zinto) attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(343) – Cookie Monster (Chubby) attacks Chloe (who the f***is Chloe?)
(343) – Super Grover (Chubby) attacks Had Hatter (Crimson)
(343) – Oscar the Grouch (Chubby) attacks Miss Piggy(Autumn)
(345) – Lathum attacksBeaker (Autumn)
(357) – Zoe (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(357) – Jayne (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(357) – Malcolm (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(358) – Macho Man (dubb) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(358) – Hulk Hogan (dubb) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(358) – Miss Elizabeth (dubb) attacks TMIMITW (J23)
(361) – Heavy (mckerney) attacks Keyser (Jackal)
(370) – Mel (JAG) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(373) – Miss Piggy (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(373) – Kermit (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(373) – Chef (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(375) – Honeydew (Autumn) unattacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(375) – Beaker (Autumn) unattacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(375) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks Goo(cougar)
(375) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks Goo(cougar)
(385) – Gonzo (Autumn) unattacks Athena (BK)
(385) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(386) – Keyser (Jackal) unattacks Doubtfire(DT)
(386) – Keyser (Jackal) attacks Goo(cougar)
(389) – Keyser (Jackal) unattacks Goo(cougar)
(389) – Keyser (Jackal) attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(391) – Zoe (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Jayne (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Malcolm (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Jayne (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(391) – Zoe (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(391) – Malcolm (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(399) – Cthulu (DV) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty) – via message from Danny
(409) – Animal (Autumn) unattacks Hulk Hogan (dubb)
(409) – Animal (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(411) – Zinto unattacks Heavy (mckerney)
(411) – Zinto attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(412) – DT attacks TheHulk (Schmidty)
(419) – hoops votes TheHulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Piggy (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Kermit (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Animal (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Chef (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Piggy (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Kermit (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Animal (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Chef (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(432) – Mad Hatter (Crimson)attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(435) – March Hare (Crimson)attacks TMIMITW (J23)
(437) – Dormouse (Crimson)attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(442) – Deadline

No submitted attacks: The Hulk (Schmidty) and TMIMITW (J23)

[Barkeep49]

attack Thursday Next

I won an interaction with Robin Hood last night which gave me the power to "borrow" someone's power for the night. I borrowed Jack Bauer's and received an interogation ability.

I found out some information about ntn. It doesn't say that he is, or isn't a wolf, but I would be interested to hear what he has to say about his character today.
Is there a reason you're not sharing the info?

[Zinto]

I won Spock last night and I gained the ability to analyze any statement. I am a bit disappointed at the lack of "villager checking in" statements at the beginning of the game and it was tough to find any other ones statements to find out if they where true or not then those. The main point of this rant is I looked at this quote:

I feel like I've been a wolf a very high percentage of games I've played recently and so it's nice to just be a villager.

And I found Barkeep to be telling the truth.

[Barkeep49]

Today's characters.

Sauron
Harry Potter
Jack Bauer
I will be interacting with my buddy Harry.

With only 3 people I think we should try to ensure that we have someone both attacking and interacting with each character.

[Zinto]

The reason I am disappointed in my inability to find any good statements on other people and I spent a good chunk of time after the deadline looking is that I generally felt pretty good about Barkeep and the other two who said they where villagers where Chubby and Autumn.

[The Jackal]

Nice info Zinto. That pushes BK right to the top of the trusted list.

[Barkeep49]

I won Spock last night and I gained the ability to analyze any statement. I am a bit disappointed at the lack of "villager checking in" statements at the beginning of the game and it was tough to find any other ones statements to find out if they where true or not then those. The main point of this rant is I looked at this quote:



And I found Barkeep to be telling the truth.
Sweet. I had a feeling that there'd be a soothsayer in this game and purposefully laid out a statement which could be checked. Glad to see that plan worked.

[Autumn]

That sounds like a very believable power for Spock, so I'll go with that.

I've got to head out for a bit, I'll post my thoughts when I get back.

[EagleFan]

Is there a reason you're not sharing the info?

I would share if it said he was or wasn't a wolf. No need to share anything other than that. I want to see how honest he is about it and it kind of ruins that approach if I lay my cards on the table now.

Odd that you would ask though.

If he is honest, I move my attack. If he is not honest I keep the attack there and see if anyone wants to follow me.

I don't have anything solid enough to elicit a run on him until I hear back from him.

[Barkeep49]

Given that the wolves have been intent on knocking out people who've been cleared, I am willing to reveal one of my powers.

I have the ability to escape death, both by lynching and wolves, for 24 hours. I plan on using this power tonight.

[EagleFan]

That sounds like a very believable power for Spock, so I'll go with that.

I've got to head out for a bit, I'll post my thoughts when I get back.


A word of caution though. If Z is a wolf that won that power he could have just cleared two wolves with that statement (he and BK). Just my paranoia speaking though, but it is a legitimate concern.

[EagleFan]

Need to look at this more tonight. Have to get back to work. Actually, Z's statement really would only clear BK and not himself after thinking about it. I need to stop posting thoughts as soon as they pop into my head.

[The Jackal]

A word of caution though. If Z is a wolf that won that power he could have just cleared two wolves with that statement (he and BK). Just my paranoia speaking though, but it is a legitimate concern.

And we've lost Jack Bauer for purposes of interrogation. It doesn't seem close enough to endgame for them to take a gamble like that, but on the other hand a couple bad days and I bet we have plenty of people who look more suspicious than Zinto/BK.

[mauchow]

Are we thinking two wolves left?

[The Jackal]

Are we thinking two wolves left?

Four wolves with 21 players, all of whom have abilities, seems tough. I'd probably guess there were three left, but who knows.

[mckerney]

The spy only try to kill teammates or hide on dead little bunny.

Heavy attacks Keyser Soze

[Zinto]

I understand the doubt on what I am saying and I have no doubt that I wouldn't completely trust what I was saying either if I was anyone else but like everything else it will come out eventually that I am telling the truth.

[JAG]

So BK and Autumn are looking rather cleared, dubb maybe only a notch below, Zinto and Chubby also are looking decent to me. That's a fairly solid block to work with. Glad to see we had villagers winning 3/5 characters yesterday to good effect.

[JAG]

I would guess two wolves left, possibly three, and 1-2 neutral characters.

[Zinto]

I am not against going after Keyser today since he is someone I tried to find a post to analyze but I couldn't find a really good one. I just do not have a read on him either way.

Really though I would much rather go for someone who has not been too active either Thursday Next if Eagle gets what he is looking for or Schmidty if Eagle does not find out what he is looking for.

[dubb93]

Well I attacked Robin Hood yesterday and definitely lost. I will leave it at that.

[dubb93]

A word of caution though. If Z is a wolf that won that power he could have just cleared two wolves with that statement (he and BK). Just my paranoia speaking though, but it is a legitimate concern.

To be fair that is now two separate powers used on Barkeep and both are pointing toward the same thing.

We know he has been up to nothing at night(my ability I won).

And now it appears he has been soothsayer-ed.

[The Jackal]

The spy only try to kill teammates or hide on dead little bunny.

Heavy attacks Keyser Soze

Not sure what you're trying to say there, but between you and JAG I feel much less confident about you. And not just because you attacked me on day one! I have a feeling CF put one of his attacks at the end of D1 on a fellow wolf, and without much else to go on, that's what I'll have to look to.

KEYSER ATTACKS HEAVY

[dubb93]

Assuming no one cares I would like to see the following done today:

Sauron -- Attack=McKerney // Interact=Barkeep
Harry Potter -- Attack=Dubb // Interact=Autumn
Jack Bauer -- Attack=EF // Interact=Chubby

The rest of you, if you have a better idea tell me. If you are a villager and you suspect one of the above is a wolf then by all means submit the same action as that person has been asked to submit.

[JAG]

Not sure what you're trying to say there, but between you and JAG I feel much less confident about you. And not just because you attacked me on day one! I have a feeling CF put one of his attacks at the end of D1 on a fellow wolf, and without much else to go on, that's what I'll have to look to.

KEYSER ATTACKS HEAVY

Well, I know you're half-wrong already. As far as mckerney, even if what you said about CF is true, you would also have to assume Tyrith put an early attack on a wolf also and didn't change it. I could only go for that if we somehow knew Heavy had some ability that could only be activated by being attacked (which isn't impossible mind you).

[dubb93]

Well, I know you're half-wrong already. As far as mckerney, even if what you said about CF is true, you would also have to assume Tyrith put an early attack on a wolf also and didn't change it. I could only go for that if we somehow knew Heavy had some ability that could only be activated by being attacked (which isn't impossible mind you).

I actually moved Heavy up my COT with that vote. Even I would be hard pressed to vote a wolf early on day 1 and leave it there all day. Completely different situation than a late vote on day 1.

[dubb93]

I will also go with EF on this one. If he says there is something that NTN needs to tell us then when NTN gets here he needs to have the motivation to tell us.

Macho Man attacks Thursday Next

Hulk Hogan attacks Thursday Next

[JAG]

Assuming no one cares I would like to see the following done today:

Sauron -- Attack=McKerney // Interact=Barkeep
Harry Potter -- Attack=Dubb // Interact=Autumn
Jack Bauer -- Attack=EF // Interact=Chubby

The rest of you, if you have a better idea tell me. If you are a villager and you suspect one of the above is a wolf then by all means submit the same action as that person has been asked to submit.

I like it, nicely done dubb.

[The Jackal]

I actually moved Heavy up my COT with that vote. Even I would be hard pressed to vote a wolf early on day 1 and leave it there all day. Completely different situation than a late vote on day 1.

Thing is, even with a ton of attacks on MIMITW on day 1, he didn't die. So this wasn't a normal WW situation - one attack can easily not amount to much. Not like a sudden swing at the deadline of 1-2 votes would suddenly thrust a person into danger like normal.

I get what you're saying, but I have to look somewhere for a wolf, and I have a fair amount of trust for most of you. I'd like to hear from NTN to see if EF is on to anything. He fits in the whole UTR category that I was harping on with DT.

[JAG]

I'm going after Bauer as I feel less comfortable with EF than the others listed and I think he might be more important, assuming these guys will offer the same abilities they had when they lived. Not that it matters much since I haven't won anything to this point.

[JAG]

Thing is, even with a ton of attacks on MIMITW on day 1, he didn't die. So this wasn't a normal WW situation - one attack can easily not amount to much. Not like a sudden swing at the deadline of 1-2 votes would suddenly thrust a person into danger like normal.

I get what you're saying, but I have to look somewhere for a wolf, and I have a fair amount of trust for most of you. I'd like to hear from NTN to see if EF is on to anything. He fits in the whole UTR category that I was harping on with DT.

That's true to some degree and I agree with the basic premise. But where I disagree is that one attack on a person can lead to attacks from others piling on in typical D1 fashion and that's where the danger would come in. It's possible, but it seems a rather risky attack when there were safer ones available. I will say I thought it curious he jumped along with me, who isn't nearly as well cleared as others, without much commentary. I would be likely to entertain that if your corpse cones up villager.

[mckerney]

That's true to some degree and I agree with the basic premise. But where I disagree is that one attack on a person can lead to attacks from others piling on in typical D1 fashion and that's where the danger would come in. It's possible, but it seems a rather risky attack when there were safer ones available. I will say I thought it curious he jumped along with me, who isn't nearly as well cleared as others, without much commentary. I would be likely to entertain that if your corpse cones up villager.

I attack this man before and since then he been killing teammate. Now I want to finish job.

[Barkeep49]

Assuming no one cares I would like to see the following done today:

Sauron -- Attack=McKerney // Interact=Barkeep
Harry Potter -- Attack=Dubb // Interact=Autumn
Jack Bauer -- Attack=EF // Interact=Chubby

The rest of you, if you have a better idea tell me. If you are a villager and you suspect one of the above is a wolf then by all means submit the same action as that person has been asked to submit.
I like this plan as well and will gladly do it. I hope to hear my fellow 5 sign-on as well.

[ntndeacon]

I am more than willing to talk about my character. Well everything but my hit points. I think what EF is referring to is that the Save of Tyrith. I do have an ability that could have saved him too. I have an ability that can banish someone for 24 hours. where they can not use their abilities , or be attacked. However if this was used Tyrith would still be alive.

[ntndeacon]

Also I won Ahab last night. I was hoping he would be a tracking type power, however, it is a killing power with conditions...which as of yet haven't been met.

[Barkeep49]

Also I won Ahab last night. I was hoping he would be a tracking type power, however, it is a killing power with conditions...which as of yet haven't been met.
You clearly don't want to talk about the conditions that would have to be met for you to use the power. Can you explain why?

[mauchow]

Where am I on the list jag? I feel I deserve to be on it somewhere.

I called out the kill prior to it happening. I don't think the wolves would kill one of their own off when a 5 damage attack could have taken out someone else most likely. I also had to sacrifice something to be able to put this attack in place. The wolves IMO would rather create an extra day of voting on admiral and maybe save him.

[mckerney]

Assuming no one cares I would like to see the following done today:

Sauron -- Attack=McKerney // Interact=Barkeep
Harry Potter -- Attack=Dubb // Interact=Autumn
Jack Bauer -- Attack=EF // Interact=Chubby

The rest of you, if you have a better idea tell me. If you are a villager and you suspect one of the above is a wolf then by all means submit the same action as that person has been asked to submit.

I will shoot this man.

[dubb93]

Where am I on the list jag? I feel I deserve to be on it somewhere.

I called out the kill prior to it happening. I don't think the wolves would kill one of their own off when a 5 damage attack could have taken out someone else most likely. I also had to sacrifice something to be able to put this attack in place. The wolves IMO would rather create an extra day of voting on admiral and maybe save him.

I'm not calling you bad, but killing off a wolf who IS going to be killed within the next day or so, to gain trust for another wolf is exactly what a good wolf would do. As a wolf not using that kill to gain trust would have a been a bad play.

[ntndeacon]

Well, Barkeep, I had small hopes of using it against one of the wolves, when I died...if I died today. The power comes from Ahabs famous quote:


"to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."

If I die I may chose someone to go with me.
That is wherre the power comes from. His last crazed rampage against the white whale

[EagleFan]

Keeping my attack where it is at, not sold on his explanation but will look at it more this evening.

[EagleFan]

What is the weekend like? I am guessing that after tonight the next deadline will be Monday morning for tonight's night deadline.

[Barkeep49]

Well, Barkeep, I had small hopes of using it against one of the wolves, when I died...if I died today. The power comes from Ahabs famous quote:


"to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."

If I die I may chose someone to go with me.
That is wherre the power comes from. His last crazed rampage against the white whale
I see. So you're the brutal wolf.

Athena attacks Thursday Next

[Barkeep49]

I see. So you're the brutal wolf.

Athena attacks Thursday Next
Note that I'm not saying he didn't win Ahab. Just pointing out that he's claiming a fairly typical wolf power.

[Autumn]

I will interact with Harry Potter, that seems a very good plan.

[JAG]

Note that I'm not saying he didn't win Ahab. Just pointing out that he's claiming a fairly typical wolf power.

That makes no sense. Why would a brutal wolf claim his own ability to no benefit? I think his claim is believable, regarding Ahab's power. I doubt he just conjured that up and / or happens to be a brutal wolf when more than likely there are no traditional roles out there (no cunning / brutal wolf, no seer / BG, just a bunch of characters with powers).

If you are a villager and die ntn, I recommend taking Jackal with you.

[Barkeep49]

That makes no sense. Why would a brutal wolf claim his own ability to no benefit? I think his claim is believable, regarding Ahab's power. I doubt he just conjured that up and / or happens to be a brutal wolf when more than likely there are no traditional roles out there (no cunning / brutal wolf, no seer / BG, just a bunch of characters with powers).

If you are a villager and die ntn, I recommend taking Jackal with you.
Because if he claims to be a brutal villager it makes us much less likely to attack him, no?

[ntndeacon]

yes it is usually a standard wolf power, but no one met Ahabs requirements it goes to a random person.

[ntndeacon]

That makes no sense. Why would a brutal wolf claim his own ability to no benefit? I think his claim is believable, regarding Ahab's power. I doubt he just conjured that up and / or happens to be a brutal wolf when more than likely there are no traditional roles out there (no cunning / brutal wolf, no seer / BG, just a bunch of characters with powers).

If you are a villager and die ntn, I recommend taking Jackal with you.

I don't plan to die, but if I do I certainly don't mind putting the one to take with me to those that think they have a wolf, including Jackal.

[Barkeep49]

yes it is usually a standard wolf power, but no one met Ahabs requirements it goes to a random person.
But we only have you to say that really is his power. There could just as easily be a different Ahab power you won and are using this as a mask.

[Zinto]

Well I buy NTN's story about Ahab regardless if he is a wolf or not. I think I am going to place my vote onJackal and see where it goes from here.

Dwight attacks Keyser

[JAG]

Because if he claims to be a brutal villager it makes us much less likely to attack him, no?

I'm not understanding you. I'm not trying to be dense but I'm feeling that way. Are you saying he's claiming this ability so we won't want to attack him? Or saying you think he's really the brutal wolf and trying to spin his real ability as something he just acquired?

[PackerFanatic]

Nuts! Good luck village!

[Zinto]

I doubt there was a brutal wolf. I think if NTN has the power he claims he won it. The only question I have is did he protect Tyrith or did he not?

[Barkeep49]

I'm not understanding you. I'm not trying to be dense but I'm feeling that way. Are you saying he's claiming this ability so we won't want to attack him? Or saying you think he's really the brutal wolf and trying to spin his real ability as something he just acquired?
Option B.

I think he's always been brutal wolf and is using Ahab to gain protection. he gains protection because killing him is higher risk and he gains protection because he's shared information.

[Barkeep49]

I doubt there was a brutal wolf. I think if NTN has the power he claims he won it. The only question I have is did he protect Tyrith or did he not?
I'm open to be convinced otherwise. Presumably the wolves got some sort of powers. We know they got a power which protected Tyrith. What else do we think they got besides ability to communicate?

[JAG]

But we only have you to say that really is his power. There could just as easily be a different Ahab power you won and are using this as a mask.

Why would he refuse to reveal the real power in that case? Or make up a lie that wouldn't make him sound as if he didn't have a traditional wolf power? I also think the power of Ahab matches up with his explaination of it pretty well and that he's unlikely to have made that up. Anyway m, don't want to harp on this to the point of silliness, just my two cents.

[ntndeacon]

But we only have you to say that really is his power. There could just as easily be a different Ahab power you won and are using this as a mask.

That is sort of specious Barkeep. You could say the same thing about any of the admitted powers. Tyrith might not have been killed by Robin Hood's intervention, but by some other method to cover. Heck we only have your own word that you can cheat death for a day.

We have been told that the standard abilities are in the interactions, we have seen theif bg , now Brutal, and clearly seer has been in there up to this point.

[ntndeacon]

I'm open to be convinced otherwise. Presumably the wolves got some sort of powers. We know they got a power which protected Tyrith. What else do we think they got besides ability to communicate?

Presumably they each got powers, that commincation would certainly make more useful to the group of them.

[ntndeacon]

Hey do we know the plan for the weekend?

[Chubby]

I'm down with dubbs plan. At work til 6pm so won't be able to fully catch up and vote til then. Trying to do this on my phone while on home depot run for work, hopefully third time is a charm and this posts

[Barkeep49]

That is sort of specious Barkeep. You could say the same thing about any of the admitted powers. Tyrith might not have been killed by Robin Hood's intervention, but by some other method to cover. Heck we only have your own word that you can cheat death for a day.

We have been told that the standard abilities are in the interactions, we have seen theif bg , now Brutal, and clearly seer has been in there up to this point.
You do indeed only have my word that I can cheat death for a day. True. Of course you have two separate players saying I'm clean. Just because I'm suspicious of you doesn't mean I'm a wolf.

[Barkeep49]

Presumably they each got powers, that commincation would certainly make more useful to the group of them.
I agree each of them presumably got powers. Why is it unreasonable to assume one, or more, of them are traditional wolf powers? Avoiding seer scan, brutal wolf, etc?

[Barkeep49]

Assume is the wrong word. Speculate is a better word.

[ntndeacon]

Assume is the wrong word. Speculate is a better word.

I see your point. I went back through the rules to see if actually said traditional roles could not be a part of one's powers , but failed to find it.

[JAG]

I agree each of them presumably got powers. Why is it unreasonable to assume one, or more, of them are traditional wolf powers? Avoiding seer scan, brutal wolf, etc?

I would only suggest it's unlikely because the powers we've seen to this point have been different than traditional powers. Immunity for 24 hrs, banishment for 24 hrs, extra attack power, passive abilities, etc... I think ntn's post a few back was right on the money, not calling you out but correctly pointing out that we only have each other's word about most things at this point.

[CrimsonFox]

Today's characters.

Sauron
Harry Potter
Jack Bauer

I can only hope "Crimson Fox" becomes a character then :)

[dubb93]

True. Of course you have two separate players saying I'm clean. Just because I'm suspicious of you doesn't mean I'm a wolf.

There is a fine line here.

I never said you were clean. I said you had not taken a night action as of night 3. Someone else said you were clean. I said it was unlikely you were a wolf based on my scan(I assume the wolves were busy the first couple of days).

All I can do is take the 2nd scan at face value right now and go a different direction today.

[EagleFan]

A question was asked about why ntn would announce a power that sounds a lot like being the brutal wolf. He has to, I got information about him last night which I was waiting to have verified. He triede to not divulge that information at first by being vague about having a kill under a condition and then came out with the Ahab story.

I'll answer BK's question now. That last bit that he gave us (about the kill ability) is not something that I learned about him; it was his other ability as well as some other vitals. Hopefully we just caught ourselves a wolf.

I am going to use my power today and this will be ntn's last day in the game (barring any other powers that I don't know about, or that there isn't some revelation that makes me reconsider).

There is a good chance that I won't make it through the day/night though. I will try to get to further attack analysis posted if I can.

[EagleFan]

dola: if this is a huge mistake and ntn is somehow clean, I apologize for my poor play now. :)

[Barkeep49]

EF: Just to make clear I should change my attack because your going to kill him without help, is that correct?

[Barkeep49]

EF: Just to make clear I should change my attack because your going to kill him without help, is that correct?
I need to start reading my posts before posting them. The lack of the correct you're bothers me.

[dubb93]

EF: Just to make clear I should change my attack because your going to kill him without help, is that correct?

This is where I'm at. If EF is going to flat out kill him then that means I need to change my vote as well.

[dubb93]

This also means if you are a villager and not on my list that you need to attack Jack Bauer just incase EF bites the bullet today/tonight.

[JAG]

A question was asked about why ntn would announce a power that sounds a lot like being the brutal wolf. He has to, I got information about him last night which I was waiting to have verified. He triede to not divulge that information at first by being vague about having a kill under a condition and then came out with the Ahab story.

I'll answer BK's question now. That last bit that he gave us (about the kill ability) is not something that I learned about him; it was his other ability as well as some other vitals. Hopefully we just caught ourselves a wolf.

I am going to use my power today and this will be ntn's last day in the game (barring any other powers that I don't know about, or that there isn't some revelation that makes me reconsider).

There is a good chance that I won't make it through the day/night though. I will try to get to further attack analysis posted if I can.

Are you saying he lied about what powers he has? I feel like I'm missing what he did or didn't say that make you sure he's a wolf.

[Autumn]

Wait, EF, can you explain that again. What makes you sure NTN is a wolf?

[ntndeacon]

A question was asked about why ntn would announce a power that sounds a lot like being the brutal wolf. He has to, I got information about him last night which I was waiting to have verified. He triede to not divulge that information at first by being vague about having a kill under a condition and then came out with the Ahab story.

I'll answer BK's question now. That last bit that he gave us (about the kill ability) is not something that I learned about him; it was his other ability as well as some other vitals. Hopefully we just caught ourselves a wolf.

I am going to use my power today and this will be ntn's last day in the game (barring any other powers that I don't know about, or that there isn't some revelation that makes me reconsider).

There is a good chance that I won't make it through the day/night though. I will try to get to further attack analysis posted if I can.

I assumed that was the power you meant EF ... the banishment. I ma surprised by the vitals as I am still unwilling to let those be out there. I will say that I did not have to announce the power I got from Ahab. I only did that as a service to the village and let them know that that was one power that isn't going to be used

[dubb93]

Another day, nothing from DV, if he is a wolf a fear he slips through the crack. And again very little from Schmidty. Not sure about him. With NtN likely out today how long can we let these two continue to slide by?

[dubb93]

I just went back to try and get a read on Schmidty, I got nothing. Most of his posts are votes and most of those offer no explanation for the vote. Here are his posts so far this game. I am skipping his post joining the game and a post asking if he should add Banner to his team.

I work from 9 am PST until 6 pm PST, so I won't be around at all guys. DAMN

HULK GET HOME FROM WORK LATE!!!!

SMASH MUPPETS IF ALIVE!!!!

HULK HOME TO SMASH BEFORE WORK AGAIN!!

ATTACK MUPPETS!!!!

HULK CONFUSED........

Banner?

*OOC*

I am so sorry guys. I was very busy today, came home to eat, posted and meant to make it official, but obviously didn't before I left. I know I've let you guys down, and would totally understand attacks made on me.

I'll be on for an unknown amount of time after I wake up tomorrow (10 a.m. PST), and before work. I'll try to make up for for screwing up twice now.

*OOC*

HULK SMASH!!

Hulk attacks Mad Hatter

HULK AGREE!!!

NELSON DIE!! SMASH OCTOPUS TOO!!!!

Attack Cthulu

Again I'm not trying to rip Schmidty here. I'm just saying that there are two people who are completely UTR, one atleast here in Schmidty who has been voting without rhyme or giving a reason and we are giving these guys passes. Is it the great RP that he has going here that is drawing him the pass?

[dubb93]

If we are looking at DV he finally shows up today and all he seems to be is cryptic. He adds...

i'm not a wolf, and i win with the village so my main goal, like evryone else, is to kill all the wolves. You guys can trust me on that. killing villagers doesnt help me in the slightest

And i can't be killed just because i'm ridiculously awesome :-) I can be beaten though, my strength does come at a price.

I can't believe everyone let this slip by. He admits that he clearly is NOT on our team and that he is impossible to kill but can be "defeated." My question is how do we defeat him and where does the line start?

[dubb93]

If we are looking at DV he finally shows up today and all he seems to be is cryptic. He adds...





I can't believe everyone let this slip by. He admits that he clearly is NOT on our team and that he is impossible to kill but can be "beaten." My question is how do we defeat him and where does the line start?

Fixed.

[The Jackal]

Very questionable responses from DV. Suggests the only way he can be killed is by wolves (if he isnt one that just can't be damaged in small bits)? I'm not convinced we can't take him out with everyone focusing on him, but perhaps there's another "neutral" type role that is a counter to Cthulu. I'd imagine that person might have stepped forward by now though, so I don't know.

[The Jackal]

Schmidty, I don't know. It's dangerous having such a damage doer around, especially when he's had some random attacks, and I believe it's been discussed having an assault on him but we've been focused the past couple days (and rightly so) on a couple of wolves. So, if we can coordinate we could probably take him out.

Both him and DV have been so UTR it's hard to get a read on them. If either of them is a wolf I'd lean more towards it being Schmidty.

[JAG]

It didn't slip by me. He said his main goal was the same as villagers, I wondered if he had another goal. But it didn't seem that relevant if we don't know how to hurt him, unless EF is able to use his power on him, but I don't know that that would be the best use of it.

If I didn't feel pretty strongly Jackal was a wolf, I would definitely want more from the UTR though I really don't think we're going to get much.

[The Jackal]

I'm going to be doing some grilling soon, will probably have time to check in before the deadline. I'm perfectly willing to discuss my ability:

Once per game during the night phase I can choose to have a different player be the target of any actions taken towards me. I haven't used it yet because.. I haven't had any need to as a villager, especially since I haven't had a strong read on a wolf I'd like to deflect it to, and because I haven't thought I'd be a NK attempt with cleared players around.

[The Jackal]

Doesn't seem like there's anything I can do to dispel JAG of his notions. Like I said before I've got nothing to do with gathering information so if it's general consensus that I'm likelier to be a wolf than others so be it. Still seems like we're in a strong position.

[The Jackal]

I'd think particularly after I should have lost the last game because of it, you'd know that if I was a wolf I'd put an early vote on another wolf. :)

[Zinto]

I would be fine with moving on Schmidty. He has not given us anything. I don't thinking voting DV at this point is in out interest since we have done nothing to him in damage before.

[The Jackal]

I see there's no interest in exploring mckerney at this point, not that I blame anyone.

As far as NTN goes it seems there are enough people that want him out, even though his Ahab story sounds legit. I kind of doubt that there are any normal bad roles in this game like brutal wolf since the only good roles (that i know of) are available to the wolves through interaction just as everyone else.

KEYSER UNATTACKS HEAVY
KEYSER ATTACKS THE HULK

[ntndeacon]

Well I am about to skedaddle for the weekend, So I just put in my order of how to use Ahab.. Unless someone has a better idea I used it as suggested on Jackal.

[Chubby]

Another day, nothing from DV, if he is a wolf a fear he slips through the crack. And again very little from Schmidty. Not sure about him. With NtN likely out today how long can we let these two continue to slide by?

This was my thoughts exactly. I was planning on voting ntn when I got home but now with EF using his ability I'm guessing we don't need to. DV can't be killed which leaves the Hulk. I'm all for that but I wouldn't consider my characters as "offensive" so I don't want to waste votes when I won't do any damage to certain people.

With Schmidty being MIA most of the game and NTN getting an ability used against him, is this the play we want to make?

[The Jackal]

Hmm, so I die whether either of us get voted off? Sweet. I can't complain too much, I've been a wolf too much lately and all the arguing really puts a toll on you. It'll be nice to go back to saying I told you so.

[Zinto]

I am fine with the Hulk. I would rather vote for him then Jackal at this point since I have no feelings either way on him.

Dwight unattacks Keyser
Dwight attacks the Hulk

[Zinto]

Also I hope Eagle gets back to explain what is going on a little better because sufice to say I am a little confused.

[Chubby]

alright, I think we're going to need all the attack on him that we can muster and it is actually a good day to do it with our main suspect getting a special attack directed at him.

Super Grover 2.0 attacks the Hulk
Oscar the Grouch attacks the Hulk

[ntndeacon]

I guess I need to attack something so it isn't randomized. I will follow the crowd
Thursday Attacks the Hulk

[mauchow]

mal and Jayne standard attack hulk

I'm getting this is now until hopefully I can look more closely to what's going on. Just doing a quick phone check then getting food.

[Darth Vilus]

i was getting caught up, didnt realize i wasn't signed in. i asked about The hulk and athena yetserday but i feel ok about barkeep right now. I don't think Hulk is a bad choice but i was thinking about NTN as well. I would rather go NTN personally.

EF, you sure you can take out NTN?

[Darth Vilus]

although would a wolf really be that UTR? personally when i'm a wold i make it a point to play more since it's not only me I'm playing for, i have a team. I know the village is technically a team too but you all know what I mean

[Darth Vilus]

I'll be around for another 2hrs about so if anyone has any questions or concerns that i can answer feel free

[The Jackal]

Schmidty is pretty much always UTR, I've seen it from him both as a wolf and a villager. He gets genuinely busy, but it's just how it goes.

[The Jackal]

but i feel ok about barkeep right now.

i'd hope so.. unless zinto/dubb/bk are all wolves it's pretty much guaranteed that BK is good.

[The Jackal]

DV do you have a win condition (on top of winning with the village) that relates to another player, such as outliving them or something? Trying to get a grasp of your role/allegiance without forcing you to reveal too much, since you clearly want to keep some things secret.

[Darth Vilus]

i have to find wolves quick because my lifetime is limited. if the game drags on too long then I'll die. that's one of the ways i can be beaten

[dubb93]

Macho Man unattack Thursday Next

Hulk Hogan unattack Thursday Next

Macho Man Standard Attack The Hulk

Hulk Hogan Standard Attack The Hulk

[dubb93]

i'd hope so.. unless zinto/dubb/bk are all wolves it's pretty much guaranteed that BK is good.

I never cleared BK. I simply said that BK had not taken an action N1 or N2. It is entirely possible, albeit unlikely, that Zinto and BK used my action and ping ponged it with a "soothsayer" scan to make BK look completely clear.

I just want it to be clear I did not clear BK.

[The Jackal]

I never cleared BK. I simply said that BK had not taken an action N1 or N2. It is entirely possible, albeit unlikely, that Zinto and BK used my action and ping ponged it with a "soothsayer" scan to make BK look completely clear.

I just want it to be clear I did not clear BK.

That's right, my fault. I misremembered what you'd said - that just indicates that he didn't make a kill on either of those nights.

Still BK is looking good for the moment.

[EagleFan]

i was getting caught up, didnt realize i wasn't signed in. i asked about The hulk and athena yetserday but i feel ok about barkeep right now. I don't think Hulk is a bad choice but i was thinking about NTN as well. I would rather go NTN personally.

EF, you sure you can take out NTN?

I guess not 100% certain since I don't know how Danny's attack/defend numbers count but based on HP and the amount I can generate with this attack I feel confident (now knowing what his stats are).

Still looking things over just in case something or someone can convince me of a different direction to use that power.

[Barkeep49]

EF: So should I move my attack or not?

[Chubby]

I can move back to ntn if need be. Home for the rest of the night

[EagleFan]

To answer the question about ntn and my assumption.

I didn't know anything about his brutal ability.

I find it suspicious that he first refers to that ability but leaves it open ended. Then a little later he comes back with the Ahab explanation.

I find it suspicious for multiple reasons.

1st, I see no reason that a brutal would not be in this game. The village has a chance to gain a lot of good powers so the wolves need a way to even that out.

2nd, I have won a few encounters and also seeing what some of the other encounter winners have gained I have noticed that it seems that villagers are gaining villager type powers from these encounters. I don't see it that big of a stretch that Danny would have the wolves gain wolf type powers if they win an encounter.

3rd, ntn has been playing like an UTR wolf. He was quite silent all game until I called him out. Yet he has been here to post but has made hit and run posts. Even when he is his normal quiet self he usually makes multiple posts when he is on.

4th, but I need to go back to get the specifics, there was an attack that stood out to me as wolfish the other day. Sadly I don't remember the specifics at the moment, just remember having that "remember that post" feeling.... sadly I obviously didn't remember it.

[EagleFan]

EF: So should I move my attack or not?

Go for it. I am attacking with 2 more than what his HP is. I would think that is enough to do the trick.

[mauchow]

But if the other wolves can protect him a little much like the Admiral was, then we'd be short. Maybe we'll have the little people like me add onto the attack to make sure? My AP is not very high but it might be high enough to help in the event of a partial block.

[EagleFan]

But if the other wolves can protect him a little much like the Admiral was, then we'd be short. Maybe we'll have the little people like me add onto the attack to make sure? My AP is not very high but it might be high enough to help in the event of a partial block.

Good point, I wasn't thinking about the blocking actions.

[Autumn]

Hmm, I thought you had learned something with an ability that made you think NTN was lying, EagleFan. I can see why you'd have a hunch about NTN, but not sure I agree with your suspicions.

I hate to waste a day taking out the Hulk, but if he's going to be making more random attacks, I guess we have to. I'll look back for a couple more minutes and see if I have a better idea.

[Autumn]

There's a lot of people I don't have much of a read on. The closest I come to a theory reading back through today's posts is that BK and Zinto are a wolf pair. Zinto covers BK with a power, BK reveals a power which can explain him not dying tonight. BK's posts continue to ping me and so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if this is the case.

That said we should still be in pretty decent position as a village, so I'm willing to take today and get rid of Schmidty. If he's a wolf we need to do it while ther'es firepower. If he's a villager we need to do it before he gets in more random kills. If he shows up I'll consider moving it, but for now:

ANIMAL ATTACKS THE HULK
SWEDISH CHEF ATTACKS THE HULK

[dubb93]

I firmly believe you are right Autumn. Barkeeps game has done a 180 since I came out an said he had takenno action. He has also been quick to point out that I cleared him. If today passes and NtN and Jackal both die an are both good then I think Barkeep and Zinto are absolutely our last two wolves.

[Darth Vilus]

Attack NTN

Just to be safe

[Autumn]

If anyone has voting histories, or at least hte vote totals, I'd love to see them. I haven't had time to keep track this game. But now is when we could use them.

[Darth Vilus]

$100 says danny is asleep

[Chubby]

EF says he has got this so I see no reason for me to move my votes, I really don't have anything to add other than can i PLEASE win an interaction for once SHEESH (fully expects to not win, i think all of the NPCs dislike sesame street)

[Darth Vilus]

heading out now guys, I'll check in when I get home. A few hours after deadline

[Zinto]

I am not sure why I would try to perform suh a strong move. I had no pressure on me what so ever and Barkeep looked fine with what Dubb said. If you guys honestly believe that we did so to take over the game then tomorrow lynch me and it will at least prove that Barkeep is a villager.

[Danny]

I have bowling, so I won't be able to process the results until I get home around 1:30am eastern

[EagleFan]

I have bowling, so I won't be able to process the results until I get home around 1:30am eastern

I'll process the results for you. Send me a list of the wolves so I know who to write up as a wolf if they die...

[Zinto]

I know that Barkep rubbed me the wrong way with what he said about NTN being the brutal I even said so but since I know he is a villager there was no point in pressing him further on it.

[JAG]

I am not sure why I would try to perform suh a strong move. I had no pressure on me what so ever and Barkeep looked fine with what Dubb said. If you guys honestly believe that we did so to take over the game then tomorrow lynch me and it will at least prove that Barkeep is a villager.

Good point Zinto. Even though I don't think either of you are wolves.

[DaddyTorgo]

To be safe...

ATTACK NTN

[Zinto]

You may or may not be dead DT hahah

[Barkeep49]

BK reveals a power which can explain him not dying tonight.

I revealed my power so if someone wins a BG they don't protect me unnecessarily.

[dubb93]

Sweet, someone is going to be smashed by The Hulk again at random.

[Autumn]

Yeah, that sucks. I guess if we had this kind of mechanic in every game we'd vote out no-shows right away.

[CrimsonFox]

You may or may not be dead DT hahah

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[EagleFan]

Here are the first two days. Need to get up early so I will continue tomorrow if I am still alive.



Day One<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
(257) – Hulk Hogan (dubb93) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(279) – Animal (Autumn) attacks dubb (invalid)
(279) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks BK (invalid)
(281) – Tyrith attacks mckerney (invalid)
(282) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks Lathum(invalid)
(282) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks Lathum(invalid)
(285) – Animal (Autumn) attacks Hulk Hogan (dubb93)
(285) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks Athena (BK)
(285) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(285) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(286) – Duke (EF) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(287) – Hulk Hogan (dubb) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(289) – Macho Man (dubb) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(290) – Jack Bauer (PF) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(294) – Athena (BK) attacks Beaker (Autumn)
(296) – Goo (cougar) attacksHarry Potter (Lathum)
(307) – Macho Man (dubb) unattacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(315) – Tyrith attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(319) – The Jackal attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(321) – ntn attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(342) – Dwight (Zinto) attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(343) – Cookie Monster (Chubby) attacks Chloe (who the f***is Chloe?)
(343) – Super Grover (Chubby) attacks Had Hatter (Crimson)
(343) – Oscar the Grouch (Chubby) attacks Miss Piggy(Autumn)
(345) – Lathum attacksBeaker (Autumn)
(357) – Zoe (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(357) – Jayne (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(357) – Malcolm (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(358) – Macho Man (dubb) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(358) – Hulk Hogan (dubb) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(358) – Miss Elizabeth (dubb) attacks TMIMITW (J23)
(361) – Heavy (mckerney) attacks Keyser (Jackal)
(370) – Mel (JAG) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(373) – Miss Piggy (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(373) – Kermit (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(373) – Chef (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(375) – Honeydew (Autumn) unattacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(375) – Beaker (Autumn) unattacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(375) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks Goo(cougar)
(375) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks Goo(cougar)
(385) – Gonzo (Autumn) unattacks Athena (BK)
(385) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(386) – Keyser (Jackal) unattacks Doubtfire(DT)
(386) – Keyser (Jackal) attacks Goo(cougar)
(389) – Keyser (Jackal) unattacks Goo(cougar)
(389) – Keyser (Jackal) attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(391) – Zoe (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Jayne (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Malcolm (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Jayne (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(391) – Zoe (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(391) – Malcolm (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(399) – Cthulu (DV) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty) – viamessage from Danny
(409) – Animal (Autumn) unattacks Hulk Hogan (dubb)
(409) – Animal (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(411) – Zinto unattacks Heavy (mckerney)
(411) – Zinto attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(412) – DT attacks TheHulk (Schmidty)
(419) – hoops votes TheHulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Piggy (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Kermit (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Animal (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Chef (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Piggy (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Kermit (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Animal (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Chef (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(432) – Mad Hatter (Crimson)attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(435) – March Hare (Crimson)attacks TMIMITW (J23)
(437) – Dormouse (Crimson)attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(442) – Deadline
No submitted attacks: The Hulk (Schmidty) and TMIMITW (J23)<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Day Two<o:p></o:p>
(503) Duke (EF) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(518) Jayne, Zoe and Mal (mau) attacks cookie monster(Chubby)
(528) Hulk Hogan, Miss Elizabeth and Macho Man (dubb)attacks Nelson (Tyrith)<o:p></o:p>
(530) Jack Bauer (PF) attacksTMIMITW (J23)<o:p></o:p>
(542) Dwight (Zinto) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(558) BK attacks Cookie Monster (Chubby)
(559) Dwight (Zinto) unattacks TMIMITW(J23)
(561) March Hare (Crimson)attacks Cookie Monster (Chubby)
(572) Mal, Jayne and Zoe (mau) unattacks Cookie Monster(Chubby)
(578) Dwight (Zinto) attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(585) Darth attacks Sauron (hoops)
(586) ntn attacks TMIMITW (J23)
(587) Super Grover and Cookie Monster (Chubby) attacks Goo 1 (cougar)
(587) Oscar (Chubby) attacks Goo2 (cougar)
(591) Heavy (mckerney) attacks Cookie Monster (Chubby)
(609) Kermit and Animal (Autumn) attacks Doubtfire (DT)<o:p></o:p>
(609) Chef (Autumn) attacks Goo1 (cougar)
(609) Honeydew (Autumn) attacks Goo2 (cougar)
(623) Goo 1 and Goo 2 (cougar) attacksTMIMITW (J23)
(629) Tyrith attacks Goo 2 (cougar)
(636) hoops attacks Doubtfire (DT)
(638) Duke (EF) unattacks TMIMITW(J23)
(643) The Jackal attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(644) Lathum attacks Goo 1 (cougar)
(645) Mal, Zoe, Jayne (mau) attacks Melisandra (JAG)
(646) Zoe (mau) unattacks Melisandra (JAG)
(646) Zoe (mau) attacks Goo 2(cougar)
(648) Mal (mau) unattacks Mellisandra (JAG)
(648) Mal (mau) attacks Goo 2(cougar)
(651) TMIMITW (J23)attacks Macho Man (dubb)
(652) EF attacks Cookie Monster (Chubby)
(659) Chef (Autumn) unattacks Goo1 (cougar)
(659) Honeydew (Autumn) unattacks Goo2 (cougar)
(659) Chef (Autumn) attacks Doubtfire(DT)<o:p></o:p>
(659) Honeydew (Autumn) attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(665) Zinto unattacks Heavy (mckerney)
(665) Zinto attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(670) Mad Hatter (Crimson)attacks Doubtfire (DT)
(674) Melisandra (JAG) attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(683) Deadline
No Submitted Attacks – Hulk (Schmidty)

[EagleFan]

Now I see what I was talking about. t was day two. ntn's 3 posts of the day...

I don't know who to attack.
A joke about mispelling.
Attack TMIMITW.

All within a couple minutes of each other and nothing that helps us at all. Not even an explanation for his vote.

[EagleFan]

One more thing that I take away from day two. Autumn's declaration of feeling better about cougar a few minutes before the deadline. Yet when I asked he really had nothing to add for why he felt better about him.

That could mean nothing but the paranoia in me says that it seems to be a convenient way for a wolf to attempt to look better, and hoping that he doesn't have to provide an immediate reason for it.

[EagleFan]

Hope everything is okay with Danny.

[Danny]

Sorry guys, I fell asleep when I got home. As soon as I wake up here in a few minutes, I will work on results.

[Danny]

To be safe...

ATTACK NTN

DT, you are dead

[Danny]

Attack NTN

Just to be safe

Unfortunately I can't count this as the vote needs to be for a character; however I won't issue a random attack since you got a vote in (albeit an illegal one)

[mauchow]

Was going to say something but it was already past the deadline.

[Chubby]

Unfortunately I can't count this as the vote needs to be for a character; however I won't issue a random attack since you got a vote in (albeit an illegal one)

ugggghhh, seriously?

danny - no problems with falling asleep, can you post the weekend schedule after you get results done please and thank you! :)

[Danny]

Finished going through PM's. Will now look at attacks

[Danny]

I have

Thursday Next: Eaglefan, Athena
Hulk: Keyser, Dwight, Thursday, Mal, Jayne, Macho Man, Hulk Hogan, Animal, Swedish Chef, Super Grover, Oscar the Grouch
Keyser: Heavy

With an attack missing from the Hulk

[Danny]

Hulk lashes out at Heavy

[Danny]

Thursday Next hides out in a book today, negating all of her attacks.

Hulk is wounded.

Heavy is killed. Mckerney was a villager.

[Danny]

Character actions are being processed now

[Danny]

Characters sent out. Night actions are due by Sunday 9am eastern (to hopefully allow some more discussion over weekend). Then day 6 will continue Monday.

[mauchow]

ok thursday's gotta be a wolf

[mauchow]

and hulk is pissin me off