WW CLVI - Clue: Master Detective - GAME OVER! MURDERERS WIN! (Post 1817)

[Chubby]

i love the blind faith in font and that instead of trying to ensure you stay alive by voting her you come after me again. lol

[britrock88]

also, why not scan me? i've been on the block every day. i'm glad to see my streak is unbroken

Because you're so obdurate, I THOUGHT the village would figure out you're trolling their seer and take care of you more quickly.

[fontisian]

Vote Chubby
Now this, I can go with. Vote Chubby

[Chubby]

Now this, I can go with. Vote Chubby

you guys must realllllllly not want to vote for each other huh?

[Coffee Warlord]

6 - Font (Chubby 1042, PackerFanatic 1049, JAG 1053, mauchow 1113, Zinto 1173, path12 1228)
4 - Britrock (DQ 1082, Saldana 1106, Lathum 1128, bhlloy 1133)
2 - Chubby (Brit 1246, Font 1253)

[britrock88]

Realize, folks, that the community's belief in my reveal lasted for about 15 minutes. Convenient in that it allowed me to avoid a lynch on D1, yes. But you're getting scans!

And consider that this is my first game on this forum with a night-action villager role. It's hard to form opinions about my comparative behavior because there's no basis for comparison. And I'm defensive, I freely admit. But I've had my back to the wall since N1.

Maybe this is productive in the sense that the wolves are keeping me alive to allow you all to bark up the wrong tree, and that I get extra scans as a result. But come on. Let's move on, already.

[Danny]

Definitely a little strange

[Chubby]

Realize, folks, that the community's belief in my reveal lasted for about 15 minutes. Convenient in that it allowed me to avoid a lynch on D1, yes. But you're getting scans!

And consider that this is my first game on this forum with a night-action villager role. It's hard to form opinions about my comparative behavior because there's no basis for comparison. And I'm defensive, I freely admit. But I've had my back to the wall since N1.

Maybe this is productive in the sense that the wolves are keeping me alive to allow you all to bark up the wrong tree, and that I get extra scans as a result. But come on. Let's move on, already.

so vote font, ya know, the Big 6er whose informant was murdered last night

[fontisian]

you guys must realllllllly not want to vote for each other huh?
He's the seer. Of course I don't want him dead. If I have to switch for self preservation, then I will.

[Autumn]

Hvaen't had a chance to catch up, but here's my thinking, formulated over dinner. Other than lynch, we have no way to determine if Fontisian is in fact a Murderer. Her informer is dead and the only seer we have that we know of is Brit--and I wouldn't believe him if he scanned Font bad tomorrow.

However, Brit might be proven bad if his informer dies in the next few nights, or if he continues to scan/act in a suspect manner. So I think it makes more sense to lynch Font tonight, particularly since it forces Brit to make a bolder scan choice tomorrow.

<b>VOTE FONTISIAN</B>

[Chubby]

brit - why scan zinto?

[britrock88]

brit - why scan zinto?

Here's his vote history:

D1 -- stuck vote on murray at 5:12pm to tie murray/brit at 5 with Chubby at 4
D2 -- voted Autumn at 7:23pm to create 4-way tie with Chubby, font, and bullet; moved bullet ahead of Chubby (7-6) at deadline

For reference, here's ntndeacon's:

D1 -- first to vote murray, 6:24pm Sunday; moved to brit at 4:55pm to make it brit-5/Chubby-4/murray-3 (broke 3-way tie)

I've spent two scans on people who 1) voted murrayyyyy after his (strange) reveal as the game started and 2) protected you with fairly late vote switches. They've both come back clean. At this point, I'm fairly sure you're no more than a tenacious villager who is suspicious of my behavior since my reveal. But you're sowing distrust of me among the rest of the village, which is really counterproductive.

[britrock88]

Going to get back to work for a bit.

[Chubby]

Here's his vote history:

D1 -- stuck vote on murray at 5:12pm to tie murray/brit at 5 with Chubby at 4
D2 -- voted Autumn at 7:23pm to create 4-way tie with Chubby, font, and bullet; moved bullet ahead of Chubby (7-6) at deadline

For reference, here's ntndeacon's:

D1 -- first to vote murray, 6:24pm Sunday; moved to brit at 4:55pm to make it brit-5/Chubby-4/murray-3 (broke 3-way tie)

I've spent two scans on people who 1) voted murrayyyyy after his (strange) reveal as the game started and 2) protected you with fairly late vote switches. They've both come back clean. At this point, I'm fairly sure you're no more than a tenacious villager who is suspicious of my behavior since my reveal. But you're sowing distrust of me among the rest of the village, which is really counterproductive.

He "protected" me by switching onto a murderer...

[mauchow]

He's the seer. Of course I don't want him dead. If I have to switch for self preservation, then I will.

Your role seems unhelpful to the village but you'd kill our seer to save your hide?

My vote is good where its at.

[DQ_BOY1000]

Heck, now I am really confused...

Brit, are you staying late today?

[Coffee Warlord]

7 - Font (Chubby 1042, PackerFanatic 1049, JAG 1053, mauchow 1113, Zinto 1173, path12 1228, Autumn 1260)
4 - Britrock (DQ 1082, Saldana 1106, Lathum 1128, bhlloy 1133)
2 - Chubby (Brit 1246, Font 1253)

[fontisian]

Your role seems unhelpful to the village but you'd kill our seer to save your hide?

My vote is good where its at.
Have you noticed that my vote isn't on Brit right now? I'm selfish ok. I want to live.

[DQ_BOY1000]

UNVOTE Britrock88
VOTE fontisian

Brit makes some good points. He could be of use while font might be a murder.

[Lathum]

I'm really torn on Brit. On one hand I don't think his scan targets are making much sense and the fact he wasn't killed last night makes me nervous.

On the other hand no one has countered his reveal.

Unvote Brit
Vote Font

[DQ_BOY1000]

I forgot to bold it, don't know if that matters:

UNVOTE Britrock88
VOTE fontisian

[KatyLied]

VOTE CHUBBY

[Lathum]

FWIW DQBoy ispinging me hard. He has been going pretty hard core at Brit all day, something I can see a new player doing as a wolf to kill a seer. Then when it looks close to Font being lynched make s a late switch that is an attempt to make his vote look better.

I think Font and DQ could both be wolves.

Doubt this get traction but lets try

Unvote Font
Vote DQ Boy

[mauchow]

Have you noticed that my vote isn't on Brit right now? I'm selfish ok. I want to live.

I understand but if you firmly believe brit's the seer and would be valuable to the villagers you would sacrifice your short-lived life. :)

That's my opinion.. I would sacrifice myself with the role I've got.

[DQ_BOY1000]

FWIW DQBoy ispinging me hard. He has been going pretty hard core at Brit all day, something I can see a new player doing as a wolf to kill a seer. Then when it looks close to Font being lynched make s a late switch that is an attempt to make his vote look better.

I think Font and DQ could both be wolves.

Doubt this get traction but lets try

Unvote Font
Vote DQ Boy


Let me put it this way... I am probably on of the only ones that CAN'T be a wolf.

I am just mostly confused Brit made some good points and the conversation all day has been about Font.

Her informant is dead which I didn't fully understand (and still don't) if she could have been converted from that. I still don't trust Brit for reason said before... he is smart and as cunning as a wolf.

[Coffee Warlord]

8 - Font (Chubby 1042, PackerFanatic 1049, JAG 1053, mauchow 1113, Zinto 1173, path12 1228, Autumn 1260, DQ 1271)
2 - Britrock (Saldana 1106, bhlloy 1133)
3 - Chubby (Brit 1246, Font 1253, Katy 1272)
1 - DQ (Lathum 1273)

[Chubby]

VOTE CHUBBY

quoted for tomorrow. more to remind myself

[fontisian]

I understand but if you firmly believe brit's the seer and would be valuable to the villagers you would sacrifice your short-lived life. :)

That's my opinion.. I would sacrifice myself with the role I've got.
The trouble is that I don't firmly believe he is the seer. He could have started off as a murderer. So, I would rather go after a possible scum player (brit) than someone I know is town (myself). Doesn't look like it will matter though.

[saldana]

i am leaving my vote exactly where it is...we have had 2 people (lathum and font) come out and explain how their "scan"mechanic works, and one person (brit) that claims to also be a Big 6 guy, but with a completely different mechanic all together...i have a very hard time believing that CW would setup a villager role such as a true "seer" in a manner that he could be converted to a wolf!!

if that were to happen, how would the village catch any murderers?!

bottom line, i dont believe brit at all.

[saldana]

dola, and lathum has nothing to lose by telling us exactly how the Big 6 roles work, since he cant become a murderer, so can someone that is NOT voting brit please explain to me how brit's story isnt a load of chilled monkey brains?

[Chubby]

dola, and lathum has nothing to lose by telling us exactly how the Big 6 roles work, since he cant become a murderer, so can someone that is NOT voting brit please explain to me how brit's story isnt a load of chilled monkey brains?

I don't disagree with you. I personally think both are wolves.

[Chubby]

Let me put it this way... I am probably on of the only ones that CAN'T be a wolf.

I am just mostly confused Brit made some good points and the conversation all day has been about Font.

Her informant is dead which I didn't fully understand (and still don't) if she could have been converted from that. I still don't trust Brit for reason said before... he is smart and as cunning as a wolf.

I can't let this slide, how so given the rules?

[saldana]

i think it is much more likely that there is no traditional seer, and that the goal of the characters like the singing telegram, or the cop was to try to find their Big 6 person and expose them before they got found themselves.

[mauchow]

I can't let this slide, how so given the rules?

Informant?

[DQ_BOY1000]

I can't let this slide, how so given the rules?

If there is anything I don't do it is lie, my momma taught me well. And whenever I try I get screwed. Ask Brit and Katy... I am an honest man. When you can't say anything true, don't say anything at all.

Further, I would have to reveal to explain why, and I am not ready to do that yet.

[Chubby]

Informant?

i read it as they couldn't be converted but said nothing about not being one to start.

i guess it's open to interpretation?

[fontisian]

If there is anything I don't do it is lie, my momma taught me well. And whenever I try I get screwed. Ask Brit and Katy... I am an honest man. When you can't say anything true, don't say anything at all.

Further, I would have to reveal to explain why, and I am not ready to do that yet.
Then why even bring it up?

[DQ_BOY1000]

i read it as they couldn't be converted but said nothing about not being one to start.

i guess it's open to interpretation?

I did not start as one, and I can not become one. I am a villager.

[DQ_BOY1000]

Unvote Font
Vote DQ Boy


That is what I brought it up

[DQ_BOY1000]

My momma also said, don't play games with weird people online... let me check how that is going.

[Chubby]

font is merely reaching for any glimmer of hope at this point

[fontisian]

font is merely reaching for any glimmer of hope at this point
Screw you. It's a legitimate question. Who partially role-claims because of the pressure of one vote?

[DQ_BOY1000]

Screw you. It's a legitimate question. Who partially role-claims because of the pressure of one vote?

I am a noob...

[DQ_BOY1000]

Screw you. It's a legitimate question. Who partially role-claims because of the pressure of one vote?

And because I have such a meaningless role that I need to spark my own excitement somehow.

[Chubby]

Screw you. It's a legitimate question. Who partially role-claims because of the pressure of one vote?

bullet does


HI BULLET!

[bulletsponge]

kick his ass Fontisian, chubbys needs a good bitch-slappin!

[bulletsponge]

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fighting/bitchslap.gif (http://www.sherv.net/bitchslap-emoticon-638.html)

[Coffee Warlord]

8 - Font (Chubby 1042, PackerFanatic 1049, JAG 1053, mauchow 1113, Zinto 1173, path12 1228, Autumn 1260, DQ 1271)
2 - Britrock (Saldana 1106, bhlloy 1133)
3 - Chubby (Brit 1246, Font 1253, Katy 1272)
1 - DQ (Lathum 1273)

[britrock88]

14/16 voted, with Danny DQ'ed (ha!) for the day. Who's our other abstainer?

[path12]

UNVOTE FONTISIAN
VOTE DQ_BOY1000

Lathum, I'm willing to see if this goes anywhere.

[DQ_BOY1000]

14/16 voted, with Danny DQ'ed (ha!) for the day. Who's our other abstainer?

If you bring me a blizzard... I have rice, a vegetable and some chicken here for you... I am almost done with the wine though.

[path12]

14/16 voted, with Danny DQ'ed (ha!) for the day. Who's our other abstainer?

Danny, can you even put a vote down? If so you should. It would verify your story.

[DQ_BOY1000]

UNVOTE FONTISIAN
VOTE DQ_BOY1000

Lathum, I'm willing to see if this goes anywhere.

HAHAHA!

[Coffee Warlord]

DT not voted.

[fontisian]

I'm in.
Unvote Chubby
Vote DQ_BOY1000

[DaddyTorgo]

The run on font isn't encouraging...we ran onto murrayyy yesterday...I don't think we'll have gotten lucky 2 days in a row like that...

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm willing to see where it goes

VOTE DQ_BOY1000

[Coffee Warlord]

7 - Font (Chubby 1042, PackerFanatic 1049, JAG 1053, mauchow 1113, Zinto 1173, Autumn 1260, DQ 1271)
4 - DQ (Lathum 1273, path 1300, font 1305, DT 1306)
2 - Chubby (Brit 1246, Katy 1272)
2 - Britrock (Saldana 1106, bhlloy 1133)

[Chubby]

The run on font isn't encouraging...we ran onto murrayyy yesterday...I don't think we'll have gotten lucky 2 days in a row like that...

I get where Lathum is coming from, but font is the clear choice tonight

[DQ_BOY1000]

Don't kill me please... I am a noob :)

[DQ_BOY1000]

*Shamelessly begs on knees*

[bhlloy]

Did DQ just reveal as an informant based off one vote? That doesn't help - at all

[Coffee Warlord]

This is the FBI! Stop where you are!

[Coffee Warlord]

All Voting Has Ended As Of Right Now - Please Stand By

[bhlloy]

unvote britrock
vote DQ

If he just revealed as an informant we should lynch him before his big 6 can find him and turn into a wolf. Does that make sense?

[DaddyTorgo]

Huh? Is that like a vote-freezing event?

[bhlloy]

lol, thanks CW

[Chubby]

lol

Federal Booty Inspectors?

[DQ_BOY1000]

I feel no shame or personal guilt.

[PackerFanatic]

What the heck? Just caught up and thought I had plenty of time...this is interesting...

[Chubby]

unvote britrock
vote DQ

If he just revealed as an informant we should lynch him before his big 6 can find him and turn into a wolf. Does that make sense?

It makes sense, I thought he was hinting elsewhere...

[PackerFanatic]

DQ has definitely been pinging me...but I think we learn more from font.

[path12]

Why stop the voting? Worried about a run?

So anyone want to speculate on who would have a power like that? Chief or corrupt cop?

[bhlloy]

It makes sense, I thought he was hinting elsewhere...

That's a possibility too. Regardless it's very unhelpful

[path12]

Col Mustard maybe?

[PackerFanatic]

DQ stopping it himself maybe? Hmm...

[Coffee Warlord]

As you struggle to find the murderers, the arguing continues into the night. As the fights continue, the doorbell rings! DQ, aka Mr Green, saunters to the door, smiling, "I told you I didn't do it!"

J Edgar Hoover himself walks in, with a horde of agents! They haul fontisian away in handcuffs, who has been unmasked as none other than Mrs White! Mr Green flashes his badge with a smile, "FBI. We've been undercover here for months. My real name is DQ."

fontisian was Mrs White...she hated you all SO MUCH....FLAMES! HEAVING BREATHS! Yes...she killed him! She admits it! FLAMES!

Oh yeah. Mrs White had a 1 time night kill on any male character.


Night 3 has begun. ALL PLAYERS ARE NOW IN THE HOUSE.

[Chubby]

Why stop the voting? Worried about a run?

So anyone want to speculate on who would have a power like that? Chief or corrupt cop?

The Chief if I had to guess.

[DQ_BOY1000]

I HAD TO STOP HER FROM SCREAMING!

[Lathum]

someone used their one time power. Either DQ sensed a run or someone trying to set him up

[bhlloy]

Why stop the voting? Worried about a run?

So anyone want to speculate on who would have a power like that? Chief or corrupt cop?

My first instinct was that DQ was the informant cop, which would make perfect sense and he stopped the run on himself. But that was CR. It would certainly seem from the writeup it was a police action, right?

[PackerFanatic]

So font was a murderer? Or no?

[Chubby]

font = listed in red

BOOYAH

[path12]

So is she a murderer or what? I get she hates us.

[DQ_BOY1000]

You jerks almost killed me... the ONLY one of the big six that can not become a murderer. I am a good guy and have been working undercover for months... so I am told.

[Coffee Warlord]

Edited to make it more clear. Yes, she was a cold blooded killer.

[PackerFanatic]

So is she a murderer or what? I get she hates us.

Looks like she was - marked as red on the first page leads me to believe that.

[Autumn]

So we were write about, font, that's good. I figured Mr. Green had something going on that was different, but this is unexpected!

[PackerFanatic]

Well fan-freakin-tastic then!

[bhlloy]

Hah, very nicely done DQ. Did anyone ever pick up on the fact there are only 5 informants for the big 6? I wonder what DQ's condition for becoming a murderer is.

[path12]

Nice!

[Autumn]

You jerks almost killed me... the ONLY one of the big six that can not become a murderer. I am a good guy and have been working undercover for months... so I am told.

Great move, DQ. Kill a Murderer and through a solid villager reveal. Pretty darn solid at least, lol.

[bhlloy]

Ah, I guess you answered that. If I believe you :)

[Autumn]

Hah, very nicely done DQ. Did anyone ever pick up on the fact there are only 5 informants for the big 6? I wonder what DQ's condition for becoming a murderer is.

Yeah, it's been pointed out a few times. I couldn't make a good guess at what his win conditions would be.

[path12]

You jerks almost killed me... the ONLY one of the big six that can not become a murderer. I am a good guy and have been working undercover for months... so I am told.

I don't think you were going down. It was still 7-4 or something like that and there were some firm votes on fontesian.

[Chubby]

You jerks almost killed me... the ONLY one of the big six that can not become a murderer. I am a good guy and have been working undercover for months... so I am told.

You do realize that there's no way we could have known you were immune to being a murderer given the rules stated tho right? I think thats what threw us all for a loop (at least me)

[Autumn]

Hah, very nicely done DQ. Did anyone ever pick up on the fact there are only 5 informants for the big 6? I wonder what DQ's condition for becoming a murderer is.

Hopefully this wasn't his condition :-O

[DQ_BOY1000]

Hah, very nicely done DQ. Did anyone ever pick up on the fact there are only 5 informants for the big 6? I wonder what DQ's condition for becoming a murderer is.

I don't have one. So I fully expect to be night killed unless someone can save me. I am for sure a good guy. i can post CW's PM to me when I got my position role, if you want more proof.

[bulletsponge]

As you struggle to find the murderers, the arguing continues into the night. As the fights continue, the doorbell rings! DQ, aka Mr Green, saunters to the door, smiling, "I told you I didn't do it!"

J Edgar Hoover himself walks in, with a horde of agents! They haul fontisian away in handcuffs, who has been unmasked as none other than Mrs White! Mr Green flashes his badge with a smile, "FBI. We've been undercover here for months. My real name is DQ."

fontisian was Mrs White...she hated you all SO MUCH....FLAMES! HEAVING BREATHS! Yes...she killed him! She admits it! FLAMES!

Oh yeah. Mrs White had a 1 time night kill on any male character.


Night 3 has begun. ALL PLAYERS ARE NOW IN THE HOUSE.




um was Fontisian a wolf or villager?

[Chubby]

I don't think you were going down. It was still 7-4 or something like that and there were some firm votes on fontesian.

DT was making it 6-5 just as DQ stopped it

[Autumn]

I don't think you were going down. It was still 7-4 or something like that and there were some firm votes on fontesian.

But this is better than a lynch because we catch people mid-voting, and get a reveal from DQ that we can believe.

[bhlloy]

You do realize that there's no way we could have known you were immune to being a murderer given the rules stated tho right? I think thats what threw us all for a loop (at least me)

I think with a bit of intelligence we might have guessed. I haven't seen anyone mention that Mr Green didn't have an informant (apologies if someone did)

[Chubby]

I don't have one. So I fully expect to be night killed unless someone can save me. I am for sure a good guy. i can post CW's PM to me when I got my position role, if you want more proof.

you can't post PMs

[bhlloy]

But this is better than a lynch because we catch people mid-voting, and get a reveal from DQ that we can believe.

Yes, and I was switching to make it 7-5, and people believed that DQ might be an informant. It was a great call.

[DQ_BOY1000]

you can't post PMs

Well then, NVM!

[path12]

I don't have one. So I fully expect to be night killed unless someone can save me. I am for sure a good guy. i can post CW's PM to me when I got my position role, if you want more proof.

No you can't. That's a no-no.

[Chubby]

I think with a bit of intelligence we might have guessed. I haven't seen anyone mention that Mr Green didn't have an informant (apologies if someone did)

it had been brought up that Green didn't have an informant but honestly, i still thought he had a chance to be converted

[PackerFanatic]

It's been mentioned about Mr. Green, but it wasn't stated he couldn't convert.

[path12]

But this is better than a lynch because we catch people mid-voting, and get a reveal from DQ that we can believe.

Absolutely. I think it's great it worked out. Especially since I didn't feel good about the fontesian vote and switched to him! :)

It was a good move DQ.

[fontisian]

Ah well. It was a good run.

[DQ_BOY1000]

Also, it might be time to start asking a little more of our newer players - DQ + Katy. Not a lot of posts to work with in terms of fitting these folks so far. And DQ had a vote today on Chubby that tied it up 6-6 with bullet fairly late in the day.

Was this enough?

[bulletsponge]

um was Fontisian a wolf or villager?

oh i see you edited your original post

[hoopsguy]

I don't have one. So I fully expect to be night killed unless someone can save me. I am for sure a good guy. i can post CW's PM to me when I got my position role, if you want more proof.

Sorry to chime in as a dead guy here, but unless the rules explicitly allow the posting of PMs this is normally discouraged in FOFC WW games.

Figured this was something worth mentioning since this is your first one here.

[DaddyTorgo]

Holy crap. Nice call DQ...whoa.

FWIW I don't think I would have left my vote on DQ

[Chubby]

can somebody post an update including when people got to the house? some interesting votes tonight

[mauchow]

Ah well. It was a good run.
Was it?

[DQ_BOY1000]

I have been trying to drop the hint of confusion which is one of Mr. Greens key parts in the whole movie. He acts confused 90% of the time until when him and Wadsworth start being on the same page.

[Coffee Warlord]

To re-iterate. All players have now arrived at the mansion, and are eligible to take night actions tonight.

[Lathum]

It would be a pretty sick move for a wolf DQ tomake that move against another wolf. For now I trust him.

Brit,can you scan yourself please and let us know the results.

[path12]

Holy crap. Nice call DQ...whoa.

FWIW I don't think I would have left my vote on DQ

I would have. :(

[mauchow]

Nice move DQ. Interested to see how DT fits into tomorrow's equation with that vote to make things closer :)

I also wonder if I finally make my entrance into the house.

[DQ_BOY1000]

Now the key is... Who jumped on me. That in very indicative of who is a wolf.

Anyone that "last houred" me is a wolf... if I had to guess.

[Chubby]

all I remember about Clue the movie was that we had it on video at my work when i worked in the video department and nobody ever rented it :D

[PackerFanatic]

Lathum was the first to jump, then path12 did as well.

[mauchow]

Nice move DQ. Interested to see how DT fits into tomorrow's equation with that vote to make things closer :)

I also wonder if I finally make my entrance into the house.

I am officially here! Grab me a beer, Lathum!

Woot woot!

[Lathum]

It will be interesting to take a closer look at those who moved onto DQ late.

[path12]

can somebody post an update including when people got to the house? some interesting votes tonight

Night 1 was hoops, Autumn & Darth Vilius
Night 2 was bhlloy, Danny & saldana
Just now is DaddyTorgo, KatyLied & mauchow.

[PackerFanatic]

It went pretty quickly from there.

[britrock88]

But this is better than a lynch because we catch people mid-voting, and get a reveal from DQ that we can believe.

And we can chase after the people trying to put the run on DQ!

Nice work, DQ_BOY! You've really earned that Blizzard now.

[britrock88]

Would the real Miss Peacock please stand up?

[bhlloy]

Holy crap. Nice call DQ...whoa.

FWIW I don't think I would have left my vote on DQ

Then why vote him with 30 mins left?

I absolutely would have left my vote on him as well. There's no shame in that, I thought he was revealing as an informant.

[PackerFanatic]

Mmm...I have a blizzard waiting for me in the freezer...exciting :)

[DQ_BOY1000]

It will be interesting to take a closer look at those who moved onto DQ late.

:) That was my goal... I couldn't have expected it to work so well.

[PackerFanatic]

Lathum, path, font, and DT were the ones to vote for DQ. bhlloy attempted to after voting was stopped.

[mauchow]

I still think I had called font out on the an obvious slip how she'd rather kill our revealed seer than sacrifice herself. THat's not villager talk..

[mauchow]

I still think I had called font out on an obvious slip how she'd rather kill our revealed seer than sacrifice herself. THat's not villager talk..

Kill/lynch

[Chubby]

Signup sheet. I cannot run this with any less than 13. More is better.

1) Autumn (entered night 1)
2) bulletsponge - Miss Scarlet - Convicted of murder and sentenced to death by bacon, Day 2
3) mauchow (entered night 3)
4) Zinto
5) JAG
6) Chief Rum - The Cop - Shot in the face by Buford Tannen, over a matter of 80 dollars, Night 1
7) PackerFanatic
8) saldana (entered night 2)
9) Lathum
10) DaddyTorgo (entered night 3)
11) britrock88
12) Danny (entered night 2)
13) murrayyyyy - The Cook - Falsely accused and fled for Hong Kong, Day 1
14) KatyLied (entered night 3)
15) path12
16) hoopsguy - Madame Rose - Choked on the goldfish, Night 2
17) ntndeacon - Yvette - Brought her boobs to a lead pipe fight and died, Night 2
18) DQ_BOY1000
19) fontisian - Mrs White - Discovered that the FBI doesn't care about heaving breaths, Day 3
20) Chubby
21) bhlloy (entered night 2)
22) Darth Vilus - Monsiuer Brunette - Wore makeup and died for it, Night 1
23) hoopsguy's evil twin - incinerated by combustable yak piss, day 0

I have to assume one of the late arrivals (could be any night) was a starting murderer

[PackerFanatic]

So that is two of the Big6 that were murderers - both likely converts (not confirmed, but they did both die as murderers after their informants died). Lathum has revealed as Peacock while britrock has revealed as Plum (and we know DQ is Green). Which leaves just Col. Mustard. We have been guessing that at least (probably at most) one of the Big6 started as murderer, so unless font or bullet started that way - either Mustard is one or Lathum or brit are lying.

[PackerFanatic]

Agreed Chubby. Gotta be at least one in that group just based on odds you'd think.

[DQ_BOY1000]

So to be clear here is a rundown of who I am and what my abilities are...

- I was Mr. Green
- I could stop a vote at anytime after noon (Hoover sleeps in late)
- I am the ONLY one of the Big 6 that can not become a murderer
- I can only stop a vote once

My position is very similar to the movie.

[mauchow]

I have to assume one of the late arrivals (could be any night) was a starting murderer

Gut feeling for me would be between saldana and DT at this point.

[Lathum]

I am officially here! Grab me a beer, Lathum!

Woot woot!

4595

[PackerFanatic]

That leaves this group for Col. Mustard:

Zinto
JAG
path12
Chubby
PackerFanatic (I am not Col. Mustard)

[mauchow]

4595

Thanks for the JUGS!

[Chubby]

Gut feeling for me would be between saldana and DT at this point.

well DTs vote tonight doesn't help his case

[Lathum]

Would the real Miss Peacock please stand up?

What are you implying?

[mauchow]

That leaves this group for Col. Mustard:

Zinto
JAG
path12
Chubby
PackerFanatic (I am not Col. Mustard)

Chubby/Zinto is my gut feeling..

[DQ_BOY1000]

So that is two of the Big6 that were murderers - both likely converts (not confirmed, but they did both die as murderers after their informants died). Lathum has revealed as Peacock while britrock has revealed as Plum (and we know DQ is Green). Which leaves just Col. Mustard. We have been guessing that at least (probably at most) one of the Big6 started as murderer, so unless font or bullet started that way - either Mustard is one or Lathum or brit are lying.

Lathum was the first to jump on me...

[DQ_BOY1000]

Gut feeling for me would be between saldana and DT at this point.

DT jumped on me...

[DaddyTorgo]

Then why vote him with 30 mins left?

I absolutely would have left my vote on him as well. There's no shame in that, I thought he was revealing as an informant.

Because I'm not in the house yet - I was going to vote for myself again :D.

[DQ_BOY1000]

That being said, Brit still scares me.

[Lathum]

Lathum was the first to jump, then path12 did as well.

lets be clear, and I believe this is now the second time you misrepresented me today.

I didn't jump on him, I cast the first vote.

[PackerFanatic]

I was just using DQ's word. I am not sure what to think on it yet. You started the run, basically.

[DaddyTorgo]

Now the key is... Who jumped on me. That in very indicative of who is a wolf.

Anyone that "last houred" me is a wolf... if I had to guess.

Disagree. Classic case of overestimating how much others know or have figured out.

[JAG]

Craziness guys. But good result, nice work DQ, good use of your ability there.

[DQ_BOY1000]

lets be clear, and I believe this is now the second time you misrepresented me today.

I didn't jump on him, I cast the first vote.

Because of a coordinated effort of the murderers to shift the vote?

[DQ_BOY1000]

Okay, I should settle down and look at this in the morning.

[Chubby]

off to bed, 2:50am comes quick :(

[DQ_BOY1000]

Craziness guys. But good result, nice work DQ, good use of your ability there.

I am from the Gov't and I am here to help!

[Lathum]

Because of a coordinated effort of the murderers to shift the vote?

You have never played before, but anyone who knows me is aware I would cut a fellow wolfs throat if it keeps me alive.No way I attempt to start a run like that.

[Lathum]

Brit, when you get a chance I would like to know exactly what you comment about the real Miss Peacock ( Its Mrs BTW) please standing up.

[path12]

Because of a coordinated effort of the murderers to shift the vote?

Dude, don't flatter yourself. You were a possible alternative choice for a two person vote that many were skeptical about for various reasons. Don't make it more than it was.

[Danny]

Latham is the player I think is least likely to be a wolf. The others after him are worth looking at

[DaddyTorgo]

You have never played before, but anyone who knows me is aware I would cut a fellow wolfs throat if it keeps me alive.No way I attempt to start a run like that.

This

[Autumn]

Dude, don't flatter yourself. You were a possible alternative choice for a two person vote that many were skeptical about for various reasons. Don't make it more than it was.

DQ's overestimating the chances of wolves being in on the run, but it's clear we're going to look carefully on everyone that helped shift the vote towards DQ and away from Font. not knowing how it would turn out, it is very likely a wolf at least lent support to that effort.

And then we look at the opposite, for the wolf trying to paint themselves as good just in case.

[path12]

DQ's overestimating the chances of wolves being in on the run, but it's clear we're going to look carefully on everyone that helped shift the vote towards DQ and away from Font. not knowing how it would turn out, it is very likely a wolf at least lent support to that effort.

And then we look at the opposite, for the wolf trying to paint themselves as good just in case.

I agree with this entirely.

[bulletsponge]

all I remember about Clue the movie was that we had it on video at my work when i worked in the video department and nobody ever rented it :D

its a good fun movie, now i have another reason to hate you :p

[mauchow]

its a good fun movie, now i have another reason to hate you :p

Gonna start watching it on NetFlix.. I have only seen it once when I was younger.

[Autumn]

The run on font isn't encouraging...we ran onto murrayyy yesterday...I don't think we'll have gotten lucky 2 days in a row like that...

To me DT looks the worst out of the DQ voters (not that any of them look great). To ignore the two elephants in the room (Font and Brit) and just jump onto the DQ pile makes little sense for a villager DT, and his reasoning above is lame, yet the sort of talk ("oh no, a run!") which he would knows gets villagers scurrying.

[Autumn]

That said, Font's unwillingness to move to Britrock paints Brit very poorly.

[bhlloy]

That said, Font's unwillingness to move to Britrock paints Brit very poorly.

I'd pretty strongly agree with this. A wolf who won't vote for the only other person in a two horse race with themselves? I still think there's a decent chance we were wolf-wolf, in which case the first few votes on someone other than those two look horrible.

[bhlloy]

To me DT looks the worst out of the DQ voters (not that any of them look great). To ignore the two elephants in the room (Font and Brit) and just jump onto the DQ pile makes little sense for a villager DT, and his reasoning above is lame, yet the sort of talk ("oh no, a run!") which he would knows gets villagers scurrying.

Plus the lame "oh, I would have switched voted for myself, honest" once DQ shows up as good. Add that to the reveal thing that pinged me on day 1. I'm not very high on DT right now.

[britrock88]

Brit, when you get a chance I would like to know exactly what you comment about the real Miss Peacock ( Its Mrs BTW) please standing up.

Your reveal just struck me a little funny. It seems a tad opportunistic after the death of your informant the day before. Then again, no one has countered your reveal. Just felt like stirring the pot again a little bit after you began the shift to DQ.

[britrock88]

That said, Font's unwillingness to move to Britrock paints Brit very poorly.

Wolves are coordinating mistrust of me! I shouldn't be alive!

[DQ_BOY1000]

I will admit, to watch everyone's reaction got me a little excited and I wanted carry that emotion. At this point I expect to be night killed since I probably just helped out a few wolves.

In the end, if the village wins I win, so it was totally worth it.

[Lathum]

Your reveal just struck me a little funny. It seems a tad opportunistic after the death of your informant the day before. Then again, no one has countered your reveal. Just felt like stirring the pot again a little bit after you began the shift to DQ.

You mean looking for someone to try and deflect attention towards?

If you are so uncertain scan me tonight. If the wolves take me out because I may be scanned fine with me, I have nothing to contribute in the way of abilities.

[Autumn]

I feel confident at least that Britrock is still looking for his Informer, even if he is a starting Murderer. At least if he finds them, this debate will be settled.

[britrock88]

You mean looking for someone to try and deflect attention towards?

If you are so uncertain scan me tonight. If the wolves take me out because I may be scanned fine with me, I have nothing to contribute in the way of abilities.

Well, I'm inclined to believe you, on the whole. I suppose I'm displacing the tension of being on the defensive for days.

[britrock88]

I feel confident at least that Britrock is still looking for his Informer, even if he is a starting Murderer. At least if he finds them, this debate will be settled.

I'm not. How could I glean who that is? Unless I get unlucky and strike the informant, I'm looking for wolves. Just not in what I believe to be the most obvious places.

[britrock88]

If you'd like me to scan (and clear, natch) Chubby tonight, fine by me.

[DQ_BOY1000]

I'm not. How could I glean who that is? Unless I get unlucky and strike the informant, I'm looking for wolves. Just not in what I believe to be the most obvious places.

What to you are the most obvious places?

[DQ_BOY1000]

That said, Font's unwillingness to move to Britrock paints Brit very poorly.

I'd pretty strongly agree with this. A wolf who won't vote for the only other person in a two horse race with themselves? I still think there's a decent chance we were wolf-wolf, in which case the first few votes on someone other than those two look horrible.

I agree. Brit should be a person of interest. I want to do a more detailed analysis of who he has voted for, when and how.

Can anyone vouch for Lathum? Like he said I have not played with ya'll before I don't know your styles.

[Lathum]

I really want to stay up and see how DQs question about me is answered but I need to go to bed.

[KatyLied]

Well done DQ! (Assisted by perfect casting, of course.)

[britrock88]

I agree. Brit should be a person of interest. I want to do a more detailed analysis of who he has voted for, when and how.

Day 1 -- voted JAG 6:52pm Sunday (4th single votee); moved to murray at deadline

Day 2 -- voted Chubby @ 12:20pm to make it 1-2-1-1-1

Day 3 -- voted Chubby at 6:something

So... self-defense, Chubby, and Chubby.

[DQ_BOY1000]

You do realize that there's no way we could have known you were immune to being a murderer given the rules stated tho right? I think thats what threw us all for a loop (at least me)

Of course... I was just pulling your leg. :p

[bhlloy]

Why Chubby with unconfirmed role and not font who was confirmed big six? It was very close between you at one point. Seems like a no brainer to have a vote there unless you had a reason not to

[britrock88]

As a Big Six, I was never too fond of the "kill off the Big Six" theory.

[britrock88]

And no time for tables tonight, sadly.

[Chubby]

If you'd like me to scan (and clear, natch) Chubby tonight, fine by me.

How do you know I'm not your informer, you kill me, then they lynch you day 4?

[saldana]

Can anyone vouch for Lathum? Like he said I have not played with ya'll before I don't know your styles.

Let's put it this way...you see over there on the right where your screen name is...yours says nOOb...Lathum's used to say "World's Greatest Wolf"...answer your question?

[saldana]

I really want to stay up and see how DQs question about me is answered but I need to go to bed.

Does that work for ya?

[Lathum]

I would have been up very late

[Danny]

Lathum is this thing we call a sociopath which gives him inhuman abilities in the area of deception ;)

[Lathum]

haha!

[Coffee Warlord]

Processing!

[Autumn]

I'm not. How could I glean who that is? Unless I get unlucky and strike the informant, I'm looking for wolves. Just not in what I believe to be the most obvious places.

You glean who that is by scanning everybody who could still be an informer. It's narrowed down every day, and so far you have been scanning possible informers, rather than, for example, Lathum or Font.

[Autumn]

So either you're not a Murderer but still looking for your Informer (which is understandable, and what I would do in your case too). Or you're a Wolf but can still get that extra kill if you find your Informer.

[DQ_BOY1000]

Let's put it this way...you see over there on the right where your screen name is...yours says nOOb...Lathum's used to say "World's Greatest Wolf"...answer your question?

Lathum is this thing we call a sociopath which gives him inhuman abilities in the area of deception ;)

Ohhh I see.

[Coffee Warlord]

Day breaks, and you brace yourselves for the inevitable. While you've had two people confess to murder, you can't help but believe there are more killers out there.

And the answer comes in the form of a corpse. A fine piece of German engineered corpse at that. Autumn is found in the kitchens, beaten to death with a hefty wrench. You quickly discover that Autumn was in fact Prince Azure!

Autumn was Prince Azure! He had a 1 time day kill on anyone who had three or more votes, and was not a murderer. (I mean he's not a murderer. I didn't mean he could only kill non murderers!)

Also, it seems the police have been given a great deal of damning evidence on one of you. It seems a laundry list of falsified records and fake testimony has led the police to issue a new warrant, for the arrest of John Doe.

Day 4 has begun.

[Autumn]

Alas, I must say goodbye. Good luck, village!

[Lathum]

well at least only one murder.

In other news whoever has been hitting Danny now got me, I can't vote today

[Chubby]

Booo for autumn dying.

Yay for no death for me last night.

Reveal coming. 50/50 shot at last wolf for lynch today

[Lathum]

FWIW I would be voting Brit today

[Chubby]

I am Wadsworth. I have the nightly ability to follow someone each night (since I know the house so well) and see if some performed a night action and where they went. I can NOT find out if they are a murerder (boooooooo)

N1 - followed brit. Or tried to, Mustard was guarding him so I backed off. This is why I trusted Mustard as long as his informant was alive.

N2 - followed DQ. Nothing happened, I think we know why :)

N3 - followed path. He went to PF's room.


I was contacted by the telegram girl by telegram saying she wasn't a murderer and to keep her safe. I see no need to reveal the informants identity.

I'm confident path is Mustard and was searching for his driver last night (and N1). My guess is Mustard protects his scan if they aren't his driver.

That leaves 2 unaccounted for zinto and jag. 1 is an informant and 1 is Mr Boddy who I'm quite confident is committing the murders like last night with the weapons.

vote jag

For now... but I will not be voting for anyone besides zinto or jag

[Chubby]

At the bank then errands for work so get your ?s in soon for me

[Lathum]

I was contacted by the telegram girl by telegram saying she wasn't a murderer and to keep her safe. I see no need to reveal the informants identity.



Are you saying you know who the telegram girl is and are guarding that info?

[Chubby]

FWIW I would be voting Brit today

Brit is an annoying villager (for now at least with his informant still alive)

[Chubby]

Are you saying you know who the telegram girl is and are guarding that info?

Yes.

[Chubby]

Both brit and path may have narrowed it down to who their informant is at this point (its highly likely, that's why I was planning on revealing today) but would prefer not to name them off for them

[Chubby]

I was surprised there wasn't 2 kills but it appears that none of the late arrivals were murderers imo

[Lathum]

Are you saying you know who the telegram girl is and are guarding that info?

Yes.

Gonna have to call BS on you.

I got a message night 2 from the telegraph girl saying she wasn't a murderer and she wants me to help keep her safe.

There was nothing in that message indicating WHO was the telegraph girl.

The two don't add up.

[Chubby]

Gonna have to call BS on you.

I got a message night 2 from the telegraph girl saying she wasn't a murderer and she wants me to help keep her safe.

There was nothing in that message indicating WHO was the telegraph girl.

The two don't add up.

then much like the saeance, I believe telegram girl could type her message and chose to reveal to me. I was told in the quoted message who she was (not by cw)

[Lathum]

then much like the saeance, I believe telegram girl could type her message and chose to reveal to me. I was told in the quoted message who she was (not by cw)

So you are saying she was able to send you a PM? It didn't go through CW?

[Chubby]

So you are saying she was able to send you a PM? It didn't go through CW?

Nonono. She sent me a telegram. I did not get a PM directly from telegram girl. I was tol d my night results and the body of telegram. In the telegram itself she revealed her identity.

[Chubby]

Unfortunately with so few of us left that started in the house, I think I've indirectly said who telegram girl is but ill let her reveal

[Lathum]

Nonono. She sent me a telegram. I did not get a PM directly from telegram girl. I was tol d my night results and the body of telegram. In the telegram itself she revealed her identity.

That completely doesn't add up with the message I got.

Assuming she had a one time shot at telling someone in a telegram who she was, why do you think she selected you?

[PackerFanatic]

No worries, Chubby. It ended up working out well because it helped narrow down your info.

I am the telegram girl. I sent Lathum a message on N2, fully expecting him to know it came from me. Of course, he didn't - so I confirmed that I could actually say my name in other messages (I have 3 in the game). After yesterdays activities, I was going to send another message to Lathum, but I thought I would try and grow my own trust to others a little more and message another that I felt was safe.

I think the info that Chubby has put forth is pretty solid. There isn't much other reason for Path to be checking me out, and if he were Plum, I would be dead. I don't have much of a feel for Zinto vs. JAG, but I think a vote between the two of them is our best bet today.

[PackerFanatic]

Having a revealed Plum makes my death worth something should I die tonight as well, so that is helpful...

[Chubby]

That completely doesn't add up with the message I got.

Assuming she had a one time shot at telling someone in a telegram who she was, why do you think she selected you?

I don't know that she didn't tell someone else a different night too. Were u n1 or n2? She may not have trusted you as much being big 6 as me. I think it was pretty obvious I wasn't big 6

[PackerFanatic]

The only reason I didn't say exactly who I was N2 (I did not send a message N1) was because I didn't think I had to. I had expected that the recipient would know it came from me, but I should have known better. After Lathum's note about getting my message, I assumed he didn't know - so I confirmed with CW and then asked if I could actually could use my name.

[path12]

Chubby is correct, I am Mustard. There is one thing that puzzles me though.

PF wasn't my guard last night.

[Chubby]

Having a revealed Plum makes my death worth something should I die tonight as well, so that is helpful...

Agreed. I just wasn't going to out you if you didn't want it. There was still a glimmer of doubt.

[path12]

Night 1 was brit and I did see Wadsworth hanging around.

Night 2 was me.

I won't say who last night was except that it was not PF.

[Chubby]

Chubby is correct, I am Mustard. There is one thing that puzzles me though.

PF wasn't my guard last night.

You guarded brit n1 correct?

I didn't see u guard pf, you went to his room tho

[Chubby]

My guess is you scanned pf last night? (Could be scanning requires u to visit them)

[PackerFanatic]

Agreed. I just wasn't going to out you if you didn't want it. There was still a glimmer of doubt.

No problem, and I appreciate that.

[path12]

You guarded brit n1 correct?

I didn't see u guard pf, you went to his room tho

Yes, I guarded brit N1. No, I did not go to PF's room last night, I was elsewhere.

[Lathum]

OK, that clears that up

[Chubby]

Well I followed path and not "mustard", I def was told u went to pf's room last night tho.

[Chubby]

Path - I had u pegged as mustard yesterday anyways as my comment eluded to :)

[path12]

Well I followed path and not "mustard", I def was told u went to pf's room last night tho.

Yeah, it's weird. I've been staying away from the possible informers. Your N1 info is totally correct and like I said I did see Wadsworth that night as well.

[mauchow]

Anyone care to put together a compiled list of who has revealed as what and details of who is connected where?

[Chubby]

Anyone care to put together a compiled list of who has revealed as what and details of who is connected where?

Only 2 unrevealed of originals in house are zinto and jag.

I was hoping somebody else would have some info on them.

Do others agree mr boddy is last murderer at the moment?

[PackerFanatic]

I would have to think at least one of the non-housers is one as well. The two we have gotten so far are both likely converts, which would then leave one 1 starting wolf.

[PackerFanatic]

In a game this size, even with converts, I would think we had at least 2 to start.

[Chubby]

Path - I'm guessing you scan and if not informer u protect them, if the driver you kill them?

[Chubby]

In a game this size, even with converts, I would think we had at least 2 to start.

I agree but then we should have had a 2nd kill last night. I'm very confident last nights kill was mr boddy again

[PackerFanatic]

I agree but then we should have had a 2nd kill last night. I'm very confident last nights kill was mr boddy again

Agreed - but I think most of us agree that the second kills on both nights 1 and 2 were informant kills, not wolf kills.

[Chubby]

Agreed - but I think most of us agree that the second kills on both nights 1 and 2 were informant kills, not wolf kills.

Yes. Hasn't there been a kill each night with a classic clue weapon? I think those are boddy since I think rules state he had them

[mauchow]

vote zinto
I'll go with my gut if its going to between these two. Both are playing a quieter than normal game.

[PackerFanatic]

Yes. Hasn't there been a kill each night with a classic clue weapon? I think those are boddy since I think rules state he had them

Yes.

[Coffee Warlord]

1 - JAG (Chubby 1455)
1 - Zinto (Mau 1491)

[Lathum]

HAs Saldana revealed anything?

[PackerFanatic]

HAs Saldana revealed anything?

Not that I can recall.

[bhlloy]

Looks like there's been some really good progress made since last night. I need to catch up on all of this, not familiar with either of those two

[Chubby]

Back to work (and read only)

[bhlloy]

I'm not going to reveal anything pertinent but the role/power I have as a latecomer is seemingly pretty minor to the roles the big 6 seem to have. So I wouldn't be surprised to find that none of the latecomers started as murderers.

I also think that there were at least two murderers in the house in day 1. Otherwise it could have been game over with a correct lynch right away and I don't think any GM takes that risk

[PackerFanatic]

So you think there wasn't even one murderer in the entire latecomer group? I would think we are more likely to have one there, since 5 of the votes in the house could be converted.

[Lathum]

yeah, I think there has to be at least one murderer in the late comers. If for no other reason than to prevent us as a group from just lyncing all the original members