WW Dukes Versus Hunters (GAME OVER!!--See Post #1387)

[Narcizo]

Shoveler seems very anxious for us not to lynch Eagle.

[Narcizo]

Terrible idea..

Every duke dies in that situation.. and what if the duke wolf is stuttering sam?

Read the description.

[Shoveler]

Shoveler seems very anxious for us not to lynch Eagle.

No I want to lynch him, but I'm worried about the duke wolf messing with us.

[Autumn]

I got your back autumn. Don't worry :)

Tell me how.

[Shoveler]

Right now there are 5 villagers, 2 wolves

If we go for EF and the duke wolf uses his ability, we end the day at 4/2. Now we know both wolves, but they get a NK. They kill the BG, so we are 3/2.

We lynch the brutal wolf 2/1, nk 1/1.. wolves hit parity.

We cannot afford to mislynch today.

[cheekimonk]

My mistake...I thought the Camo Outfit prevented a lynching when it just prevents duking to the person.

unvote Grover
vote EagleFan

[Autumn]

Right now there are 5 villagers, 2 wolves

If we go for EF and the duke wolf uses his ability, we end the day at 4/2. Now we know both wolves, but they get a NK. They kill the BG, so we are 3/2.

We lynch the brutal wolf 2/1, nk 1/1.. wolves hit parity.

We cannot afford to mislynch today.

If a villager has the ammo clip and makes a kill tomorrow, that could save the day. So we have to hope a villager has that, survives until tomorrow and makes the right call. If a wolf has the ammo clip they can make an extra kill tomorrow and win before lynch.

Which makes me question, where is the bulletproof vest right now? And where is the camo outfit. If both of those are in evil hands, we may be done for. If one is in villager hands and we get lucky ...

[EagleFan]

Paging Autumn...

You'll NEVER find the last one.

[EagleFan]

What to do with all these items...

[Autumn]

lol

[Shoveler]

Read the description.

Ok, I'm starting to see this plan. I was thinking you were suggesting this on the potential wolf duke.

Yeah all village dukes would have to duke to EF.

If one of them is stuttering sam, the duke is nullified. If stuttering sam doesn't pop up, we know the wolf duke can't duke tomorrow.

[Shoveler]

Vote EF

[Autumn]

Paging Autumn...

You'll NEVER find the last one.

To think, we used to go hunting together every year.

[Chief Rum]

If we all duke then Stuttering Sam will nullify all dukings causing the original one to get got.

Chief - can we all duke to the actual lynch candidate?

There are no limitations to whom a Duke chooses to Duke to, even to himself.

[britrock88]

At that close range, there is no possibility of missing. Autumn's bullet slams into the side of britrock's head and blasts out the other side, spraying blood and brains for several feet. britrock falls away from Autumn, dead instantly.

You had to make it that gory, huh? :p

[Chief Rum]

You had to make it that gory, huh? :p

Lol... I don't do small. :D

[Narcizo]

Tell me how.

And while you're at it explain the business about Shoveler lying about the camo suit before the killing.

[Narcizo]

God I feel empowered. After all the weekend worrying about people believing me.

[Grover]

vote EagleFan

[Chief Rum]

FYI... it looks like my lunch will be coming closer to 12, which puts me coming back at close to 1 (my time).

So results may be delayed. I would recommend someone keep an eye on the vote count in my absence, in case late voters need the help.

[EagleFan]

I have a perfect plan. We lynch Autumn just to make sure he isn't a wolf with an elaborate plan. Or to try out the duke abilities we vote Autumn and duke to someone else.

I think Autumn is really the cultist. He used his cult powers to make Brit look bad.

[Narcizo]

Grover nows the time to confirm if you're what I think you are.

Autumn if we're going to have to do the multi-duking thing you will need to say soon.

[EagleFan]

Wait... Brit is a cultist... That can only mean Narc is one of the wolves... It makes perfect sense.... I bet they sit down and laugh at us over fish and chips....

[Narcizo]

Cheeki did you get your item before or after the daykill?

[Narcizo]

Wait... Brit is a cultist... That can only mean Narc is one of the wolves... It makes perfect sense.... I bet they sit down and laugh at us over fish and chips....

Eat my vote-analysis! :p

[Chief Rum]

Day Five Vote Tally (as of Post #1272)


EagleFan (5)-- Autumn (1127), Narcizo (1239), ccheekimonk (1256), Shoveler (1262), Grover (1269)
MrBug708 (1)-- EagleFan (1134)


Yet To Vote: MrBug708

[Shoveler]

If we are voting EF you have to do the duking dealy.

[Autumn]

I have not received any items, so at this point it seems a duking is a real possibility. I assume EF kept the camo (obviously Brit didn't have it, which i was worried about). No word on the bullhorn, so I guess that's out of play for today.

[EagleFan]

Can I pick the duke target?

[EagleFan]

Eat my vote-analysis! :p

:D

[EagleFan]

Sorry, phone posting so trying to keep it short. Honestly. Odd look from the boss so I will check back later.

[Chief Rum]

I am heading to lunch. Which means I will be back right about deadline. :devil:

[Autumn]

Sorry, phone posting so trying to keep it short. Honestly. Odd look from the boss so I will check back later.

Even he knows you're a wolf.

[Narcizo]

Ok Let wolf duke duke = 4:2. Night kill 3:2. They've got the ammo. 2:2. Can't be doing that.

Do the duking do = 4:1. Brutal? 3:1. Night kill 2:1. Day Kill 1:1. No brutal? Flip a coin on bodyguard - lose 3:1. Day kill 2:1.

If they've got the bullhorn, ammo and camo suit then we've lost.

[EagleFan]

Ooohh, better idea. How about you all duke to Autumn. That way we know for certain.

Or... Everyone dukes to a duke!!!! Better yet!!!!

[EagleFan]

unvote bug

vote Autumn


The only real action I can get behind right about now. I want to be the only one that didn't get fooled by that wolf.

[EagleFan]

Okay, I seriously have to log out for a bit. Hopefully everyone comes to their senses soon.

[Narcizo]

If anyone has the mirror they should use it on Bug immediately after Daybreak.

[Narcizo]

Chief, does the brutal fire if a wolf is duked?

[Narcizo]

Nobody duke.

[Narcizo]

Or do.

[Narcizo]

Flip a coin.

[Narcizo]

Need a little help here.

[Shoveler]

I think the brutal is going to happen as long as tge brutal wolf is lynched.. Not sure you should switch up the plan at this stage

[Grover]

I think we've got EF dead to rights as a wolf. I wouldn't Duke anything.

[EagleFan]

Who are you guarding tonight? Please guard me. The village can't see that they can only win if I survive. I think that you are all wolves except me.

[Narcizo]

Wait a minute. Are my numbers right? No they're not. Fuck!

[Shoveler]

So you are the other wolf grover

[MrBug708]

vote EF

[Autumn]

I think we've got EF dead to rights as a wolf. I wouldn't Duke anything.

Well, the concern is that the wolf will duke. Are you the wolf, Grover?

[Narcizo]

If we don't get the items we need to lynch and duke to Bug. All dukes.

5-1. Brutal 4-1. Night kill 3-1. Day kill 2-1. We lynch Eagle.

Do it.

[Narcizo]

If we don't get the items we need to lynch and duke to Bug. All dukes.

5-1. Brutal 4-1. Night kill 3-1. Day kill 2-1. We lynch Eagle.

Do it.

[Narcizo]

Unless Grover isn't the bodyguard.

[Autumn]

How do you know Bug is bad, Narc? Lynch the known wolf now and see if we can't flush out the last wolf.

[Narcizo]

OK. Do we do the duke thing? Random it?

[Shoveler]

DO NOT DUKE TO BUG.. OMG

[Shoveler]

If a duke uses their ability on another duke, and that duke dies.. they original duke dies.. Everyone dies if they duke to bug.

[Autumn]

Doing the duke thing makes sense, hoping Stuttering Sam helps us out. If the wolves duke, then we don't have to guess who the last one is. If they don't, we get our man.

[Autumn]

Everyone has to duke to EF if they want to duke.

[MrBug708]

If we don't get the items we need to lynch and duke to Bug. All dukes.

5-1. Brutal 4-1. Night kill 3-1. Day kill 2-1. We lynch Eagle.

Do it.

I'm thinking this is a terrible idea

[cheekimonk]

If a duke uses their ability on another duke, and that duke dies.. they original duke dies.. Everyone dies if they duke to bug.

Thank you! I couldn't type that fast enough.

[Shoveler]

Everyone should be duking to EF

[MrBug708]

I'm a Duke so that wouldn't work

[Narcizo]

That's not what happens with Stuttering Sam but yeah. Grover isn't claiming so I have cold feet anyway.

[Narcizo]

Ok. Sorry about that. I suck.

[Shoveler]

That's not what happens with Stuttering Sam but yeah. Grover isn't claiming so I have cold feet anyway.

If the last wolf duke ends up at stuttering sam and doesn't use the ability, the whole plan goes up in smoke and everyone dies.

[Shoveler]

So.. Everyone duke to EF.. If you dont duke, you are the wolf.. if everyone dukes, the wolf can't duke tomorrow.

[Autumn]

I don't think everyone dies, ti says we don't know how the duke tiebreaker works, right?

[cheekimonk]

Boy, deadline is going to be FUN!! for Chief today...

[Autumn]

Well, the wolf is either going ot not duke, or duke to me. If they duke to me, a villager with the ammo clip can kill them tomorrow. If they don't duke, then presumably EF dies, if everyone is putting in the same duke order.

[Shoveler]

I got a clarification on the rules about this.. If you duke to another duke and that duke dies, you die.. otherwise you live..

So everyone that dukes to another duke, if that duke dies they would all die as well.

[Shoveler]

I don't think everyone dies, ti says we don't know how the duke tiebreaker works, right?

If everyone dukes, stuttering sam nullifies everything.

[Autumn]

Nobody should duke to a duke. Don't do it!

[Shoveler]

EVERYONE IS DUKING TO EF...

At least I hope so.

[Narcizo]

BG on Autumn - conditional to, oh, someone you think the wolf will kill. Or somethin.

[MrBug708]

No idea what's going on now

[Autumn]

Yes, if the BG is around, make sure you put in some conditional orders. Getting a block tonight would be huge.

[Narcizo]

No idea what's going on now

Duke Eagle.

[Shoveler]

Conditional BG should be on narc, cheeki, or myself

[Narcizo]

Mirror guy might need to rethink what to do. I'm swinging between Bug and Grover right now.

[Raven]

:popcorn:

[Grover]

Why are we attempting to Duke this? Is this assuming that the other Wolf is a duke and will try and get this onto someone else?

Will they let themselves be seen so easily?

[Shoveler]

You are stalling

[Grover]

You are stalling

?

I'm legitimately confused here.

[Shoveler]

?

I'm legitimately confused here.

Just do it, if you dont you will probably find yourself lynched tomorrow.

[Narcizo]

Grover - Autumn is absolute cleared- He's telling you to duke to Eagle.

[Autumn]

Yes, the guess is that it is close enough that if they duke to me, even though they're outed, they may have the numbers to win.

[Shoveler]

I'm really hoping everyone has their orders in.. or we are hosed.

[Autumn]

i have to say this has been one of the more entertaining games I can remember.

[cheekimonk]

i have to say this has been one of the more entertaining games I can remember.

Ditto. WoT was deeper, but this had so much gamesmanship.

[Narcizo]

Bullhorn wins the duke for them.

[Narcizo]

Sorry if I gave stuff away.

[Shoveler]

If they have all the items we are hosed anyhow..

[Chief Rum]

I'm back. Catching up.

[Chief Rum]

Chief, does the brutal fire if a wolf is duked?

If the lynch settles on the brutal wolf, the brutal condition will trigger.

[Narcizo]

If they have all the items we are hosed anyhow..

Aye.

[Narcizo]

I wanted this to be over today. I can't take another day.

[Narcizo]

Hope they kill me.

For what it's worth I'm oscillating between Grover and Bug. Tough call.

[Chief Rum]

DEADLINE (Duh)

[Chief Rum]

FINAL Day Five Vote Tally


EagleFan (6)-- Autumn (1127), Narcizo (1239), ccheekimonk (1256), Shoveler (1262), Grover (1269), MrBug708 (1299)
Autumn (1)-- EagleFan (1286)

[Narcizo]

Five

[Narcizo]

More

[Narcizo]

Posts

[Narcizo]

To

[Narcizo]

Overtake Autumn

[Autumn]

Damn.

[Narcizo]

:mad: ;) Chief I have to go to bed soon.

[Chief Rum]

The time for lynching has come, and for once, you all seem certain of what you must do. Autumn's shocking murder of britrock the Cultist have given you confidence that he has the right of it. And he says to kill EagleFan.

As the lightning bugs begin to pop up in the surrounding bog, you all reach for EagleFan, who seems resigned to his fate.

You start to pull him toward the gator pool when a shout rises from the edge crowd.

"Wait!" MrBug708 strides forward. "You are killing the wrong man! Do not do this!"

You all feel swayed by MrBug708's persuasive argument.

One villager asks, "Who do you believe we should lynch then?"

MrBug708 looks around at the gathered villagers, looking carefully and directly at all. EagleFan, held between two villagers, looks on with a glimmer of hope.

"I believe you should lynch..." MrBug708 started, with a dramatic pause...

"...Eagle Fan!!"

The village is quiet. You can hear a pin drop.

One of the villagers stepped forward.

"Umm, well, we were already gonna do that," he said.

"Oh!" MrBug708 said. "Oh, very good then. Carry on."

The mob started up again, marching to gator pool.

The villagers on each of EagleFan's arms tensed at the edge, preparing to throw him in, as the well fed gators waited with hungry looks.

All of a sudden, EagleFan drops to the ground, suing his full body weight to break their hold on his arms. He sweeps the leg of one of his captors, and the villager falls into the gator pit with a cry. It was Narcizo!!

Narcizo's cries of pain echo throughout the swamp (was that a thank you??), as EagleFan leaps to his feet to make a run for the wilderness. But the village is ready for him. Autumn steps in his way and before EagleFan can react, Autumn's knife is hilt deep in his chest.

EagleFan stumbles to his knees, blood gurgling from his mouth. He has a quizzicle smile on his face.

"I failed," he coughed out. "My partner won't."

He keels over on his side, shudders and dies.

EAGLEFAN was the Brutal Wolf!! He was a Hunter with no Role!

NARCIZO was a Duke and Villager with no roles.

MRBUG708 is a Duke, and his Duke Lynching has been used up.

[Chief Rum]

:mad: ;) Chief I have to go to bed soon.

Heh heh sorry, Narc! Hope you're still up!

[Chief Rum]

Processing night actions.

[EagleFan]

:popcorn:

[Raven]

if you need something to do while waiting on this...my city is going CRAZY right now! http://www.wbaltv.com/news/demonstrators-converge-in-baltimore/32595700

[EagleFan]

if you need something to do while waiting on this...my city is going CRAZY right now! http://www.wbaltv.com/news/demonstrators-converge-in-baltimore/32595700

Holy crap.

[EagleFan]

Stay safe!

[Chief Rum]

Although you are all disturbed at the loss of Narcizo, you can't help but feel that the end is not only near, but that this will all end for the benefit of the whole village.

You are content to go to bed tonight knowing that you can root out the last of the evil tomorrow. The nightmare will finally end.

You all wake up sleepily to the sounds of shouting. What is that?

You stumble out into the village square and see shadows and forms running off to the edge of town. A blast of light and heat emanates from there and you smell smoke.

You run with the others, and prepare for the worst.

You reach the shack and see that it is completely engulfed in a blaze of fire! Villagers are quickly grabbing buckets of water and trying to get it under control.

Soon, the fire is down to a manageable level. But the shack is gone. And so is whomever was inside it.

"My God," croaked one villager. "This was Autumn's home."

AUTUMN has been Night Killed by the Wolves. He was a Hunter with no role, and he was the Village's Seer!

The DUKES have won the minor win condition, as only Dukes remain alive.

DAY SIX has begun, and the deadline is 4 p.m. EST/1 p.m. PDT Tuesday.

[Shoveler]

seriously?

[Shoveler]

So we dodge a bullet that they dont brutal autumn, but then the BG isn't there for the NK..

[EagleFan]

:popcorn:

[Shoveler]

Vote Grover

[MrBug708]

Conditional BG should be on narc, cheeki, or myself

I read this wrong, totally missed conditional.

Since it doesn't matter, I was also the buddy role. And I have the vest

[Chief Rum]

Aww, bloody hell!!" yells cheekimonk. "This has got to stop!"

He looks wildly around at the gathered village.

"One of you is the oil profiteer, and damnit, I am going to kill you right now! he screams.

He pulls out a gun he had taken from a Hunter and he locked in the Ammo Clip he had.

He aims at the villagers, as they all back away in fear. He points in turn at everyone.

Finally, he settles on MrBug708.

"It's you," he growls. "It has to be you!"

"No!" MrBug708 says panicky. "It's not! You're wrong!"

He sees the crazy look in cheekimonk's eyes and he takes off running.

But he can't escape. cheekimonk is too close. He fires and MrBug708 collapses to the ground.

The village runs yp to MrBug's prone body, as cheekimonk smiles with grimn satisfaction at a job well done.

As the villagers reach MrBug, the shot man groans and turns over, shocking everyone. He rises to a sitting position and tears open his shirt, revealing the Bullet Proof Vest underneath.

MrBug was saved by the Bullet Proof Vest!!

The Bullet Proof Vest and the Ammo Clip have both been used and are no longer in the game.

[Shoveler]

Well if cheeki gets on I am willing to nightfall and get this finished..

who has the extra clip? Cheeki or grover?

[cheekimonk]

vote Grover

[cheekimonk]

vote nightfall

[Grover]

vote mrbug

He's the only option now.

[Grover]

vote nightfall

[Shoveler]

Vote Nightfall

[Shoveler]

mrbug, vote and nightfall.. grover is getting lynched, you can't vote for yourself. This game needs to end one way or another.

[Grover]

And what a finish it promises to be...

[Chief Rum]

Day Six Vote Tally (as of Post #1379)


Grover (2)-- Shoveler (1369), cheekimonk (1373)
MrBug (1)-- Grover (1375)


Nightfall (3)-- cheekimonk (1374), Grover (1376), Shoveler (1377)

[Shoveler]

if you are good grover, duke to mrbug.

[Chief Rum]

While the lynch vote is a fait accompli, I have game condition reasons to not process results at this time. If Bug returns and votes Nightfall, I will run at that time.

[MrBug708]

vote grover

Vote nightfall

[Chief Rum]

NIGHTFALL!

[Chief Rum]

FINAL Day Six Vote Tally


Grover (3)-- Shoveler (1369), cheekimonk (1373), Grover (1383)
MrBug (1)-- Grover (1375)


Nightfall (3)-- cheekimonk (1374), Grover (1376), Shoveler (1377), MrBug708 (1383)

[EagleFan]

:popcorn:

[Chief Rum]

The village is tired of waiting. They have their man and they're looking to lynch him.

MrBug708, Shoveler and cheekimonk gather around Grover and prepare to throw him to the gators.

Just before they reach him, he reaches from behind him and brings out a Bullhorn!

He starts screaming into it, the sound of his voice overriding all other sound and thought.

The three lynchers-to-be stop, confused.

Grover says, "No, I will be the one to name the lynch today!"

The villagers pause uncertain what to do.

"The l-l-lynch-nch-nch... w-w-will-l b-b-b-be... umm... M-m-m-m-m ist-st-st...", Grover stammers. He swallows and tries again. He is again unintelligible.

The malaise on the other three has faded away and they look at each other. With a nod as one, they turn back to Grover.

They grab Grover and drag him to the gator pool. The three of them hold him down at the edge of the pool, ignoring his pleas for mercy and proclaimed innocence.

A great big reptile rises from the water, his maw open wide!

SNAP! The gator's jaws slam down around Grover's head. There is a sickening crunch and a rip and tear as the gator swallows Grover's head. The villagers roll Grover's headless corpse, spurting blood, into the swamp water.

GROVER was a Duke and Stuttering Sam! He was the FINAL Oil Profiteer!

THE VILLAGE WINS!!!

[Chief Rum]

Thanks for playing, guys!

This ended up being one of the craziest games I have ever run!!

[Grover]

Oh man. I mentioned several times during the game I was afraid of this.

You got lucky, village!


Awesome game Chief!

[MrBug708]

I was probably a bad fit for the roles I got but saving martin was quite the lucky strike

[EagleFan]

Thought you had it Grover; you were worried that you would end up being Stuttering Sam.

[Shoveler]

He was dead even if he duked

[Chief Rum]

Yeah, the Stuttering Sam thing was awful luck there.

[Chief Rum]

He was dead even if he duked

No, if he was not Stuttering Sam, MrBug would have been lynched, and then he would have killed you with his nightkill. That would have dropped it to 1-1 with him and cheeki and the wolves would have won.

[Shoveler]

Wasnt mr bug a duke?

[Chief Rum]

Grover actually did duke (or attempted to).

[Chief Rum]

Wasnt mr bug a duke?

Heh heh, what do you know, you're right.

Well, glad that didn't happen then.

[Shoveler]

Thought duke on duke action resulted in death

[EagleFan]

For the longest time we thought font was the cultist. Almost right after the game starts she lists 2 of the three of us in a post, figured that was a signal to us.

Then the MartinD save of her had us looking at MartinD as the seer. Go figure, it was just bad luck for us that it was random chance.

Did you also think he was the seer bug? Was that the reason for your protect order?

Thought Autumn was the cultist after font didn't end up as the cultist.

Autumn was my brutal order the first couple days then it switched to Narc. Today I thought for certain Narc was the BG and was just trying to lure Grover into revealing. Thought of trying to go for a big reward taking Narc out with the brutal and Autumn with NK late today. That way there wouldn't be a game of chicken with the bodyguard that could drag things out.

I had backed myself into a position where I couldn't fake reveal anything. Couldn't say seer or BG because of my attack on MartinD.

Was nice that Shoveler gave me the camo. :) We had 4 items by the end, camo, bullhorn, mirror and site. Wish I had the clip. :)

Shoveler, what made you go after timmae? We were hoping that he would get scanned and cleared (almost was) and then you dropped a bomb on us.


Had major trouble trying to post because of the deadline. Was afraid that was going to out me; with little activity in the evening it was hard to get myself to post at night.


Overall it was a really fun game. Thanks for the game Chief!!!

[EagleFan]

Thought duke on duke action resulted in death

I thought that resulted in a sex tape revealed online.

[JAG]

I forgot that too Shoveler, nice point. I am relieved the bullhorn didn't end up hurting the village when The wolves got it upon my death, though I heard it changed hands again.

Wild game, lots of surprises. If font hadn't been the blank, that would've been ugly.

[EagleFan]

If MartinD doesn't protect font that day is HUGE for us. Would have been two dead villagers with us not having to lift a finger.

[Chief Rum]

Thanks guys!

I am not sure there is too much that happened that wasn't explainable by the results, but if you have any questions, please let me know.

[Chief Rum]

Yeah, it was weird all of the different ways this could have turned.

If MartinD hadn't protected font (I still don't really know why he did).

If font wasn't the Blank.

If Bug didn't have the vest when cheeki decided to shoot him with the Ammo Clip (although I have to play out that scenario, may not have mattered).

Lots of other twists and turns.

[JAG]

Autumn's reaction to nearly being shot is hilarious knowing he was the seer.

[Shoveler]

Was nice that Shoveler gave me the camo. :) We had 4 items by the end, camo, bullhorn, mirror and site. Wish I had the clip. :)

Shoveler, what made you go after timmae? We were hoping that he would get scanned and cleared (almost was) and then you dropped a bomb on us.

Yeah I had to think long and hard about whether or not to pass that item to you as I thought you might be bad. Ultimately I figured if you were it shouldn't make a difference, but the risk that you were good and could be duked to was to great.

I'll have to go back through the thread, Timmae had a couple of posts that just screamed wolf to me. After playing a couple games with him I felt that I had a good read on him. I wasn't so certain about font, so it felt like a good swap at the time.

[Autumn]

What a crazy ass game.

[Autumn]

Autumn's reaction to nearly being shot is hilarious knowing he was the seer.

That was quite a moment. I still cannot believe Font was a villager, I have never been more sure of anything else in my life.

[MartinD]

Thanks for running the game, Chief - a really interesting ruleset, which made it a fun game to be part of :)

Definitely an eventful game for me - targeted by the Bully on night 1, choosing to protect fontisian for Day 2 (the thinking was that it would be a waste to not pick someone - all else being equal (and at the point in the game where we know very little about who the wolves are), the small chance of keeping someone alive is good for the village - and I may as well pick a strong/active player...) and all the fun and games that resulted from that, the bodyguard block (yes, I did get a PM saying that this had happened) and the almost inevitable getting shot down in broad daylight...

[MrBug708]

I was throwing Hail marys up most of the game. Martin caught my eye but I had no idea if he was anyone of note.

I was fb messaging chief my picks last minute

[MrBug708]

Did font shoot me to verify I had what I had?

[JAG]

So the optimal play for the wolves the day before last would've been brutaling Bug, NK anyone but Autumn, duke the lynch to Autumn, and then NK anyone for the win if they didn't have the Stuttering Sam role left.

[Raven]

Great job guys.

Awesome game, CR!

[The Jackal]

Great game idea and execution

[Autumn]

Super close. If I hadn't struck out on seer scans so often, might have closed it out earlier. But we really lucked out with that hit on Timmae. I had him set for a scan that night, but he was cunning and would have been worse than a waste. Was so complex towards the end trying to figure out when to reveal, who to shoot. I had the ammo clip so was kind of hoping to skate by without revealing seer and get two kills, but passed the clip to Cheeki instead, figuring they'd kill Narc first. A lot of fun, Chief.

[timmae]

Just an awesome game chief. I had a ton of fun! Very cool roleset and rules. I'd play again in a second. Hope we didn't give narc insomnia for too long!!

[Raven]

Btw, I had the mirror but never had a good opportunity to use it. I considered using it on font's shot, but her shot was processed before I had time to give it enough thought.

[cheekimonk]

Super fun, Chief!! I had a 50/50 shot between Bug and Grover...glad it worked out in the end! First time I've been on a winning side. Woot!!

[Narcizo]

Sorry about flaking out at the end. Well, pretty much throughout. I calculated that the wolves would probably win if they left Autumn alone but I couldn't say that as they might not have worked it out.

The fact that I figured out Eagle after I'd basically quit goes to show that I'm astute when I'm not obsessing. But once I was back in I started obsessing again and was certain that Bug was the other wold. So, basically, I obsess way too easily. In general I'm better at reading games when I'm not in them.

I flip-flopped on Autumn being the seer or being bad ever since day two. When Brit revealed I literally has an "obvious cultist is obvious" post ready to send but I felt better of it. When Autumn didn't counter I was so confused. I thought the seer was going to be someone else who didn't reveal immediately and that no-one would believe them when they eventually did reveal.

The whole Vaimes/Font/Martin thing should have and would have cost us the game were it not for Shoveler.

Unfortunately I'm going to have to take a long break. I just don't want to expose myself to that kind of thing again, it doesn't work for me in the long run.

[Narcizo]

Very interesing and well thought-out game Chief. Thank you for running it. And thanks for your kind words. You're a gentleman.

[Narcizo]

Remember, this is a group game. We can't all be Batman.


Irony. :p

[fontisian]

I don't understand why anyone this game wanted Martin or Vaimes lynched. Like. I just can't understand it.

Also can't understand when I Autumn didn't anything about the entire day's worth of warning before I finally took a shot.

And Cheeki's shot on Bug after Bug's was proven to have Duked EF. The hell was that?

[fontisian]

Oh, and EF deciding to scumfirm himself by shooting the confirmed town to protect a townie? What?

[cheekimonk]

And Cheeki's shot on Bug after Bug's was proven to have Duked EF. The hell was that?

I thought, from Chief's description, Bug was Stuttering Sam and had attempted to duke away from EF but ended up canceling everything out so EF got lynched anyway (the whole "I say we lynch EagleFan!" "Well, we're already doing that." "Oh, well carry on."). Turns out Stuttering Sam actually stuttered. Anyway, that was my logic. Then it turned out he had the vest which reinforced to me that he was wolf (why did he have that instead of passing to Autumn?), but I just went with Shoveler's experience at that point and voted Grover.

I agree the game turned on Shoveler's shot on timmae. We were so deep in the Vaimes/font/Martin rabbit hole that we never would have recovered.

[Autumn]

So, Font, my thinking on your shot was that A) I had tried not to give any hint on whether I was Duke or Hunter, and so I was hoping that you were bluffing trying to get me to make some claims. B) I knew you and I were the last Hunters left, and you had a chance to either be the Cultist or The Blank, so I figured there were good odds your shot wouldn't work. If it didn't, the wolves would never think I was the seer and I would survive some night kills. And C) I didn't have any information to give other than that Narc was good, and I knew people would figure that out if they went back and looked.

I honestly was sure you were either the Cultist or Wolf and figured you were pushing me so hard to try to push a claim. I still don't understand why you thought it was a good idea to force a seer claim out of me at that point in the game. Yes, you gave me plenty of warning, but if each Hunter forced someone to make a claim completely on their own, where would that get us? I would have been killed pretty darn quickly one way or the other.

[Autumn]

Did font shoot me to verify I had what I had?

Cheeki you mean? I think he was just taking a "shot" that you were the last wolf. I passed him the clip figuring it would give us a last minute chance to win. I had a scan in on Grover, so we could have just ended the game at that point and avoid a lynch (which I was hoping might still be the brutal. damn you eF)

[Narcizo]

Oh Eagle said he thought I was the bodyguard fishing for a fake reveal (or I guess protecting myself). If only I was that cunning. I truly believed Grover was the bodygaurd. There was a post where he asked something about the bodyguard and he said he was convinced that Martin was good so it seemed to make sense.

Still don't understand why Bug protected Martin. Or why the wolves tried to kill him either.

[Narcizo]

I don't understand why anyone this game wanted Martin or Vaimes lynched. Like. I just can't understand it.

Also can't understand when I Autumn didn't anything about the entire day's worth of warning before I finally took a shot.

And Cheeki's shot on Bug after Bug's was proven to have Duked EF. The hell was that?

a) I don't think anyone really wanted Vaimes lynched apart from because of the misunderstanding about why he wasn't killed when he tried to daykill you. I wanted Martin lynched because protecting an unknown was not a village move as it had the potential to cause confusion. As was demonstrated.

b) Autumn explained.

c) Wolf-Bug might have felt compelled to duke the lynch - he had no way of knowing how the events would be written up. If all the attempted dukings were written up he would be revealed. (I didn't lynch either - thought it might be useful later, thought the wolves had the bullhorn and would use it or that they wouldn't bother duking this time round, so they could duke Autumn next go round).

God love you Font but you really can't question anyone else's play in this one. You can be a wolf-hunting machine but you still have to be able to express yourself to get people to listen to and accept your theories. If you appear to speak down to everyone a lot of people aren't going to listen to you or are going to allow emotions to effect their rational thinking.

[cheekimonk]

Did font shoot me to verify I had what I had?

You mean me? I honestly couldn't decide between you and Grover. I wanted to go back and re-read that day's post and maybe the previous one to help decide, but I also wanted to PM the shot order to Chief ASAP after NK. As I said above, the way Chief wrote up you duking back to EF made me think you were Stuttering Sam and, as a wolf, had just gotten screwed.

[cheekimonk]

So the optimal play for the wolves the day before last would've been brutaling Bug, NK anyone but Autumn, duke the lynch to Autumn, and then NK anyone for the win if they didn't have the Stuttering Sam role left.

I would have duked a lynch of Autumn to EF assuming I was still around (and I think the wolves would have NK'd Shoveler over me given the chance). With Grover being Stuttering Sam, though, he probably dukes EF which cancels my duke and Autumn goes down. So, yeah, wolves still win.

[cheekimonk]

Still don't understand why Bug protected Martin. Or why the wolves tried to kill him either.

That was boggling on both counts.

[Grover]

Or why the wolves tried to kill him either.

We wanted to cause mass confusion.

If it weren't for that meddling Shoveler, we would have won!

[cheekimonk]

Funny that everyone, especially the vets, were convinced this game would be over in 2-3 days with half the village dead on D1, and then it goes all the way down to a 3-0 win. But Chief's tweaks to the mechanics were perfect.

[cheekimonk]

We wanted to cause mass confusion.

If it weren't for that meddling Shoveler, we would have won!

It worked better than that...I was absolutely convinced at that point that the wolves had a very green noob and maybe 2. So it completely directed my attention away from you, EF, and probably timmae (he's new, but he's proven to be pretty adept at this).

[Grover]

It worked better than that...I was absolutely convinced at that point that the wolves had a very green noob and maybe 2. So it completely directed my attention away from you, EF, and probably timmae (he's new, but he's proven to be pretty adept at this).

Heh, I'm as noob as timmae ;)

He's just better at this than I am.

[timmae]

It worked better than that...I was absolutely convinced at that point that the wolves had a very green noob and maybe 2. So it completely directed my attention away from you, EF, and probably timmae (he's new, but he's proven to be pretty adept at this).

Hey now! I take exception to that!! Errr... I'm so clueless to this game. Narc had my head spinning. I'm more of a, "eh... let's try this" type. EF's shot was more of a "let's have fun with this" moment for me. Sure Ilike to win but if people end the game pissed off, burnt out, in a corner crying, then what's the point? At one point we were considering firing at a few other people just for shits and giggles. Well, I was anyways. :)

[timmae]

Heh, I'm as noob as timmae ;)

He's just better at this than I am.

lol, fellow noob! You've had a shit bag of roles so far in this WW thing. I can't wait to see sorc grover or heck even just vanilla villager grover!

[Shoveler]

I went back to see what it was that put me on timmae, and to be honest I cant find it now. Not sure if it's because of already knowing he was evil, or I just cant get into that confused mindset again. So.... yeah maybe we got really lucky there.

[timmae]

It worked better than that...I was absolutely convinced at that point that the wolves had a very green noob and maybe 2. So it completely directed my attention away from you, EF, and probably timmae (he's new, but he's proven to be pretty adept at this).

Your hunting is getting better... once you dial in your reads you'll be more than a little difficult to deal with. You had some very good theories that just happened to be towards the wrong people at points but you are asking the right questions. I see improvement.

And we did have 2 green noobs. And EF to deal with. I am just sad we couldn't lynch seer!EF D1 this game. Doh! Just ribbing ya big guy!

[timmae]

I went back to see what it was that put me on timmae, and to be honest I cant find it now. Not sure if it's because of already knowing he was evil, or I just cant get into that confused mindset again. So.... yeah maybe we got really lucky there.

You will never know in a million years how stunned I was by that. Luck, skill, reads... whatever. Just an awesome hit. That should earn you some points there my friend.

I was thinking (and still kinda think) you have some tells on me from the WoT game. I hate it when people get inside my mind. I'll just need to play a little crazy next game... watch out world!

[Grover]

lol, fellow noob! You've had a shit bag of roles so far in this WW thing. I can't wait to see sorc grover or heck even just vanilla villager grover!

I am fully prepared for the day one lynchings, because I have been a villager once ;)

[britrock88]

When Brit revealed I literally has an "obvious cultist is obvious" post ready to send but I felt better of it.

Sigh. You're totally right, though.

I realized that I had never played cultist before--kind of wild given the dozens of games I've played in 3 years. As availability dictated, I spent the first several game days sounding as good as I could and waiting for the opportunity to make a great distracting move. The village was doing a good enough job of that for a while. :)

In the meantime, I was just tracking the wolves to see how they were doing. EF played out front early, which I get to draw attention away from the newer players timmae and Grover as wolves. Timmae got that unlucky brutal, but Grover, you had a much better game as a wolf, even though you were cornered at the end.

Finally, after Font pleaded for the seer to reveal, and with no claim coming, I decided that dawn of D5 was the perfect time to false reveal. Unfortunately, I had to backfill my scans and try to be able to justify them based on the way the game had played out. That's hard to do when you're pressed for time. I mean, I didn't even get in a false clear of a surviving wolf in order to signal myself to the wolves.

But then... no counter-reveal came. I was hoping for a claim war, to eventually be outed, and hopefully for that to allow for NK shenanigans involving the BG and seer. But Autumn took advantage of this role set, lay in wait, and offed me in the best way possible.

GG to everybody--interesting to see a set with this many moving parts. Thanks for the game, Chief!

[Grover]

We really thought font was the cultist. When she named EF, timmae and I as possible wolves we thought that was it.

[Autumn]

You did a great job, Brit, I was pretty convinced you were good up until you revealed.

[Chief Rum]

There was a ton to take from this game, watching it develop behind the scenes.

Look, I was confused as some of you guys were at some moves. I had no concept why MartinD chose to watch over fontisian that day (he didn't even put in a protect order on Day One), and I was laughing when I shortly after got the shoot order from Vaimes.

Nor did I have much understanding for Bug protecting Martin or the wolves going after him. But I guess Bug's move was well thought out, because it worked.

I thought the wolves played an excellent game. Really, it came down to the shocking Shoveler duking to timmae and the unfortunate fact that Grover was Stuttering Sam.

cheeki, on the Bug duke, I probably took too much artistic license in describing that. Because Bug ended up being the only one to follow the public thread instructions to duke TO EF, it was a funny result where he was "duking" to the guy who was already getting lynched. That's not something you see a lot, so I had some fun with it in my writeup. So I'll mea culpa on that one.

Autumn had me on edge all weekend, wondering when he was going to shoot brit for the fake reveal. I am impressed he held out as long as he did. He played a very strong game.

I think the wolves were at a slight disadvantage in that Bug was not super available in the day (so he was kinda a BG UTR that was hard to pick out) and in brit being new to being a Cultist (we all have a first time) who played it a little too straight up.

I found it incredibly ironic when my random draws set up Font as the Blank. I knew that if anyone in the game was going to end up taking a shot at someone, it would be her.

Shocking revelation that still surprises me: not a single one of you used the once per game PM function. I would have thought the wolves at least would have done it to sow confusion or Autumn would have sent out a PM with his scans just before reveal or something like that. I think y'all even forgot that option was in the game lol.

Overall, it was a very impressive round of plays by everyone in a complicated ruleset. Although I felt like the beauty of this particular set is that it wasn't really that complicated by the rules. It was that their application created a complicated game, with the different factors involved. And it was great fun watching you all try to figure out how to navigate it.

Thanks for the kind words, everyone. It was a blast to run!

[britrock88]

Shocking revelation that still surprises me: not a single one of you used the once per game PM function. I would have thought the wolves at least would have done it to sow confusion or Autumn would have sent out a PM with his scans just before reveal or something like that. I think y'all even forgot that option was in the game lol.

Had I been good, I was pretty sure that I would have used my PM to instruct my fellow dukes/hunters to send it along to identify each other for the minor VC and to avoid the double-kills.

[Chief Rum]

Had I been good, I was pretty sure that I would have used my PM to instruct my fellow dukes/hunters to send it along to identify each other for the minor VC and to avoid the double-kills.

Yeah, you were the only one who didn't have this ability, which I couldn't allow because you might tell the wolves who you are.

[Autumn]

I had the PM in my back pocket, but by the time I would have used it there weren't many Hunters left, and I suspected most of them. Could have been big in the right circumstance though.

Early in the game I considered using the PMs to try to out the cultist but decided against pushing that for some reason.

[JAG]

I would have duked a lynch of Autumn to EF assuming I was still around (and I think the wolves would have NK'd Shoveler over me given the chance). With Grover being Stuttering Sam, though, he probably dukes EF which cancels my duke and Autumn goes down. So, yeah, wolves still win.

They had the bullhorn though, so they could've had a clear duking as Grover did at the end.

As for PMs, I couldn't think about how to use it for an advantage. I almost sent a fake one pretending to be a wolf and asking for the cultist to make a specific signal in their post, but that seemed lame and unbelievable due to the odds of the message reaching the cultist.

[EagleFan]

The Martin thing was me getting tunnel vision. Thought he HAD to be the seer. Must say that after my shot at him I was surprised that I wasn't lynched. The funny part is that I was also convinced that font was the cultist so I almost didn't want her lynched.

I was already planning end game when Shoveler took our knees out. Thinking that timmae could duke to Grover, sorry Grover, and been scanned he would be trusted number one. Thought of having him duke to me but duking to the brutal may still leave some doubt.

[cheekimonk]

If there's anything the WoT game and this one taught me it's that improbable coincidences absolutely happen in WW games. And rather often.