2K Betrayed the PS3 version, Not 60FPS!!!!

[scamden311]

Quote: Originally Posted by STLRams

Yeah I heard, if you read my,..never mind, anyway the hardware can handle 60FPS, end of story.

Apparently not in a football game.

[kneebon5]

It could also be that the games were ported from the 360 versions to PS3.

I dont know anything about game dev. but i know that if i were in charge of EA or 2k, i would not make two teams to develope the same game for two different consoles. There would be little gain in that.

[BenR]

I guess you have to play Madden on PS3 then. Oh wait... Its 30FPS too.

Get an Xbox!

[Shamrock]

Quote: Originally Posted by STLRams

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160709 I would expect this from EA sports but not from you 2K. This to me is not all Sony's fault, this is developers being lazy and not putting time and effort trying to figure out new technology. So other game developers can make they games how they should be for the PS3 but not the football developers?? I'm sorry this is just lazy to me and 2K did drop the ball on this because they are only making this game on 2K consoles, and on one of them there having problems on before the release. 2K get this together before the game is released, this isn't about console wars, this is about creating a quality product for every system that should be up to standards. Then atleast EA tried to make an excuss, 2K just decline to answer why there having problems on the PS3?? Sad, don't turn this into a console debate, this is about 2K stepping back into the football market and they don't have there s**t together, and they want this game to make good sales with it being on only 2 systems and they have a chance to show that there developers are better than EA's buyt making there PS3 version of a football game at 60FPS, something that EA can't do.

I'm going to go ahead and tell you a little secret. Don't blame developers and call them lazy. The problem is not that they are lazy. The problem is the PS3 uses a weak Grapics Card that is basically almost Identical to the Nividia 7600 GT. The other problem is that card only has 256 MB of dedicated Video Ram. So developers make the 360 version first which has a much much better GPU that can use up to 512MB of Dedicated Ram.

So either game developers need to go to the PS3 version and lower textures, change the shading, etc to match frame-rate or they have to lower the FPS. It's not that they are lazy it really is the fact that the GPU/Ram can't do the same things the 360 does.

The Cell is a powerful CPU, but the CPU is not something that can make video graphics look much better. Think of PC's for a moment. You can have a Quad Core Processor CPU, but thats not going to make a game look good if you have a 128mb Graphics card from 2001.

[Rodskin744]

Quote: Originally Posted by kneebon5

It could also be that the games were ported from the 360 versions to PS3. I dont know anything about game dev. but i know that if i were in charge of EA or 2k, i would not make two teams to develope the same game for two different consoles. There would be little gain in that.

But that would make no sense.... since Sony says the PS3 is much stronger than the 360... why would a port from a weaker system result in worse results on the better system? PS2 ports to the original xbox resulted in graphical upgrades ALL THE TIME.. never a decline!

[rockchisler]

Theres not to much being gained from this thread, Can we lock it????????

[Altimus]

Quote: Originally Posted by rockchisler

Theres not to much being gained from this thread, Can we lock it????????

2K, EA, MS, and Sony involved in one discussion... who knew it would make it this far.

But honestly, from a hardware stand point I am not suprised. Will take another year to get the PS3 running at 60fps.

[Champ24]

2K didn't betray anyone. It's so easy to ride a developers back and say they are lazy but most have absolutely no clue what it takes to put a game like this together. I was a programmer for 7 years until I had enough of it, but I can't even imagine the headache these guys went through trying to get this thing to run at 60 FPS until they gave up. It's about trade off and they made their choice. I'm sure each 2K developer put in 60-80 hours per week to make this happen. Maybe you should go to Sony's forum and request they beef up their developer tools to help out a little. Microsoft obviously had it covered.