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04-20-2014, 04:55 PM | #1 |
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King of the Hill (Kentucky HS basketball dynasty) (FBCB)
I adapted my NJSIAA (NJ) high school league to Kentucky. Being new to the state, I wanted to get a better sense of where cities are and a better handle on the demographics and so forth. So what better way than a dynasty?
Since FBCB doesn't allow for a 16-team NCAA tournament, I couldn't mimic the state's single-class Sweet 16 tournament. Instead, I used the KHSAA 16 regions and split them into 32 based on district setups. So basically each region got split in half (Region 1 & 2 = District 1) and so forth through Region 32. The regional tournaments include everyone at least initially, but I might change that to be the top 4 teams from each region (from 1951 when I started through 1959 it's everyone though) and then the winners of each region advance to the Round of 32 tournament to crown a single class state champion. I'm simming ahead to get a bit of history out of it. There's no way to directly import the classes out of the game and into FBCB, but what I'll do is take the best recruits out of the HS simulation and bring them into FBCB as real college recruits. It's probably the only way to make it a bit like a traditional recruiting situation, and we get to watch these guys actually get recruited as seniors which will be fun too and we'll have them at real life high schools except for the one extra high school I created which will serve as my "home" high school. We'll see if I can keep this up. But...I think if I'm doing it right, Kentucky A&T my created team in a separate dynasty will try to recruit some of these athletes on their way to becoming the state's newest basketball power. But right now, we're focused on seeing what schools are dominant players in HS basketball and to recruit these kids to our programs. It'll be as close as I've ever gotten FBCB to true high school recruiting and being able to watch guys play for four years. Plus it'll make importing recruits in FBCB only slightly less tedious since FBCB will have generated all of their stats and stuff, so I get to just throw them in and not having to make stuff up. We'll see. I'm playing using Fast Break College Basketball 2, a text-sim. |
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04-20-2014, 04:56 PM | #2 |
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Here are the best 39 programs in history since I started simming:
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Stats Leaders # Team Wins Losses Pct Conference Champs Conference Tourney Champs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Ludlow 1423 189 .883 42 39 2 Ballard Memorial 1376 196 .875 43 33 3 Pikeville 1353 217 .862 46 35 4 Boyd County 1347 223 .858 42 35 5 Southern 1336 237 .849 39 35 6 Carlisle County 1323 248 .842 37 33 7 Muhlenberg County 1304 245 .842 43 34 8 Magoffin County 1302 264 .831 35 35 9 Estill County 1283 273 .825 37 32 10 Mason Headley 1238 285 .813 34 25 11 Louisville Christian Academy 1215 305 .799 33 21 12 Dayton 1213 323 .790 33 27 13 Bryan Station 1217 325 .789 34 27 14 George Rogers Clark 1208 330 .785 35 30 15 Red Bird 1174 323 .784 25 15 16 Knott County Central 1176 335 .778 30 26 17 University Heights 1164 350 .769 34 30 18 Glasgow 1131 369 .754 32 22 19 Jackson County 1145 396 .743 17 28 20 Washington County 1114 402 .735 20 25 21 Henderson County 1111 409 .731 33 26 22 Oldham County 1097 404 .731 24 18 23 Shelby County 1079 411 .724 18 20 24 Central Hardin 1076 415 .722 17 19 25 East Jessamine 1060 414 .719 26 16 26 Bell County 1053 428 .711 21 17 27 Russellville 1061 437 .708 23 20 28 Franklin-Simpson 1050 442 .704 16 17 29 Elliott County 1042 440 .703 26 20 30 Campbell County 1055 448 .702 17 16 31 Knox Central 1035 445 .699 21 17 32 Henry Clay 1027 442 .699 9 14 33 Louisville Holy Cross 1024 463 .689 22 16 34 Silver Grove 1015 471 .683 17 17 35 Cordia 1002 480 .676 14 14 36 Elizabethtown 986 498 .664 15 14 37 Green County 977 496 .663 12 13 38 Nelson County 957 507 .654 17 11 39 DuPont Manual 943 534 .638 15 17 Code:
Stats Leaders # Team Apps W L Pct Sweet 16 Elite 8 F4 Champs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Ludlow 39 94 30 .758 31 26 18 9 2 Pikeville 35 66 33 .667 29 16 12 2 3 Southern 35 55 33 .625 28 16 6 2 4 Carlisle County 33 63 30 .677 27 16 11 3 5 George Rogers Clark 30 42 30 .583 25 13 3 0 6 Ballard Memorial 33 73 25 .745 25 16 14 8 7 Magoffin County 35 51 34 .600 25 15 6 1 8 Estill County 32 56 28 .667 24 13 9 4 9 Muhlenberg County 34 51 32 .614 24 12 8 2 10 Boyd County 35 50 33 .602 24 14 6 2 11 Dayton 27 33 27 .550 21 8 2 0 12 Mason Headley 25 30 25 .545 19 5 4 0 13 Henderson County 26 37 26 .587 19 11 5 0 14 Jackson County 28 41 27 .603 17 12 7 1 15 Louisville Christian Academy 21 48 17 .738 16 14 9 4 16 Washington County 25 27 24 .529 16 7 2 1 17 Bryan Station 27 38 24 .613 16 10 6 3 18 Knott County Central 26 24 26 .480 15 6 2 0 19 University Heights 30 25 30 .455 13 8 3 0 20 Elizabethtown 14 19 14 .576 12 5 2 0 21 Glasgow 22 22 22 .500 12 5 4 0 22 Louisville Holy Cross 16 14 16 .467 11 3 0 0 23 Oldham County 18 25 18 .581 11 7 4 0 24 Elliott County 20 15 20 .429 11 4 0 0 25 Central Hardin 19 19 19 .500 10 6 2 0 26 Grayson County 16 15 16 .484 9 5 1 0 27 Campbell County 16 18 16 .529 9 5 3 0 28 Franklin-Simpson 17 18 17 .514 9 5 3 0 29 Silver Grove 17 15 17 .469 9 5 1 0 30 Bell County 17 16 17 .485 9 3 3 0 31 Russellville 20 17 20 .459 9 5 3 0 |
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Kentucky has 120 counties and here's the genesis of why, thanks to Wiki.
No easy feat. But I'd like to try to create one somehow, to further the immersion plus the rules they created against county creation were meant to essentially prevent it from happening again without some serious coordination, akin to create "a county house rule" which just makes me want to attempt it. So let's see if we can do it? Ultimately, this is an exercise in geography and learning the state and what better way than to carve out a piece of familiarity within it? ------------ It appears the northwestern-ish county area of Breckingridge, Hardin, Meade Ohio & Grayson counties are going to be the best bet for building my new county by carving out a territory from each to make it happen. So here are the boundaries of county 121: Now obviously if I really wanted to be painstaking, I'd have created even more of zig-zag county to make sure that I got the population right. But no one cares, I'm just messing around and at least knowing that it was in theory possible to do it within the boundaries of these counties was enough for me. Based on my regions, the new high school representing our Northwest Kentucky adjacent county would fall into either Region 6 (which currently has 8 teams) or Region 9 (which has 9 teams). We'll need to figure out what the name of our new county will be -- obviously we're creating a new town -- and then decide which region to put them in. In the end, we took parts of Hardin, Meade & Grayson counties to make this work. |
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04-20-2014, 04:59 PM | #4 | ||||||||||||||||||||
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I almost just spared you the gory details of my drawing the county lines of County 121, because I didn't think it mattered for basketball. But at its core, this is just a Kentucky geography dynasty covered in basketball drapes, so this stuff actually matters as it helps me understand the state better.
To that end, I needed a better map that helped me see where the counties were relative to their cities:
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This helped me draw the lines of our county. I moved it further south, so we excluded Meade county, which is under 400 square miles and would ruin what I was doing if I'm following the rules of making new counties. So if we were mapping this, we basically are creating our county out of the parts of Western Hardin County up not including Radcliff, Fort Knox or Elizabethtown. A good part of Southern Breckinridge County extending to the northern part of Ohio County within about 11 miles of Hartford, parts of Eastern Grayson County but at least 11 miles from Leitchfield.
Existing cities we took include: Vine Grove, KY Irvington, KY Cromwell, KY Fordsville, KY Vine Grove is the largest city short of me making one up somewhere as a master planned community for one reason or another (not ruling that out, but not doing it now..) Irvington will become the new county seat. All of Kentucky's counties are named after famous people at the time, with a few named after geography and Union county because it was formed by a union of towns coming together to form one. So I could sit around and try to name this forever, but since it's a new county it'd be good to find a way to make the name unique. I wanted to choose a woman since no Kentucky county is named after one. The first woman governor has a highway named after her, so I didn't want to choose her. Plus she's not dead. The first woman Lt. Governor was elected before the first woman Governor, she's dead and she was born and raised in Munfordville until the age of 8, which isn't in our county now but it's less than an hour away. So we'll call our new county Stovall County in honor of Thelma Stovall. |
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04-20-2014, 05:00 PM | #5 |
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Used Google Maps to come up with a better view of Stovall County, KY.
Vine Grove is 49 minutes from Louisville, so in the upper parts of Stovall County it's well within the "we wanted our own exurb/suburb bedroom community that lets us work in the city, but live in the country and now will explode a lot between now and the next census so the population is low, but is a lot larger in 10 years" area that you see a lot out west in Colorado and Utah. |
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04-20-2014, 05:01 PM | #6 |
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We're going to do two new public high schools for Stovall County. One for the city limits of Vine Grove, which used to have its own high school anyway called Vine Grove consolidated in 1962 and they'll readopt the old mascot of the Blue Devils. They'll join Region 9 where they'll have rivals from the start with most of the Hardin County schools will still be lingering with hate at Vine Grove rejoining the mix.
Like any good high school, we'll be stealing our logos from colleges. The other two high schools for Stovall County will be in Irvington (Stovall North) who will go to Region 6 and the other school will be in Fordsville (Stovall South) and will be in Region 5. Starting in 1980, Stovall North and South play a home & home rivalry series against each other on alternating nights on New Year's Day. Seems like the best way to kick off a rivalry between the two schools. Vine Grove also plays them both once during the year.
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04-20-2014, 06:36 PM | #7 |
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Every year we'll just do an all-state team that I curate myself from around the state. These players will be the ones I create and put in-game for recruiting by the four-year schools. You have to make all-state your senior year in order to be created, though. The idea of course, is to focus on underclassmen because then we have guys we can follow throughout their careers.
They won't all be the absolute best players based on ratings, we'll use stats to determine the all-state team, as well as results from around the state, because for instance the best player for the state champions only had one offer before they won the state title. UL offered him a preferred walkon spot after the tournament win and he picked up two other offers after. So...I think inserting guys in-game based on team success could be good. |
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Here's this year's pre-season High School All-State team. We'll delve more into the all-county team for my new county in a future post and players to watch out for. After all, what good is a new county if there's no talent in it?
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