Official USC - Michigan "Rose Bowl Discussion thread"

[PdiddyPop]

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ATrillionaire said:
Michigan 24
USC 10

USC beat only one team this year with fewer than 5 losses..and even Washington State loss 3 times.

book it!!

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*looks out for the Pac-10 vultures circling around the area*

[ochoco]

In my opinion there is no way in hell that Carrol doesn't have his team ready for this game. He is one helluva coach and he knows that Michigan is gonna be a head to head beat down. I hope both teams show up and knock the [censored you naughty boy] outa each other. (without any injuries of course) I still think USC will pull this one out but I agree that it will prolly be close.

If there was ever a game I would want tickets for, this is it. It is still unbelievable to me that most of USC's stars are Sophomores and Freshman....UNBELIEVABLE!!! I know OU is returnning alot of stars next year too. Just unbelievable how good some of these guys are one and two years outa High School...

[bkrich83]

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Bill_Abner said:

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JoeBudden said:
I am no way underestamating USC i think there a great team but i have a problem with people saying that its gonnna be a 17 or more point diffrence between Michigan and USC i will really be suprised if either of them go over 30 because both teams have solid d's but if they do have a shootout it would be really fun to watch. Remember if i am not mistaken Michigan the least they put up against a team was 27 i dont know the least USC has put up.

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Because it's a typical viewpoint that the Big10 is simply full of slow, farm fed country boys that cannot keep up with the elite players in Florida or California. Ohio State fans heard this exact same thing before last year's Fiesta Bowl and how Miami's "Florida Speed" would run them off the field. An ESPN "anaylst" even said McGahee would get 200 yards and 3 TDs on the OSU defense. Nothing ever changes. Michigan is playing as well as any team in the nation right now and has as much talent as any team in the country. Why people think this will be a USC blowout makes no sense.

Michigan will be, without question, the best and most complete team USC has faced all year and if the Trojans think they are just going to show up and claim 1/2 of the NC then they'll get their butts kicked. They better come to play because Michigan sure will. USC is loaded. No doubt. But I think a 31-27 game is much more likely than a 45-20 USC romp.

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It's sort of like the Big 10 fan's perception that the Pac 10 teams are soft and play no defense.

USC is more physical and more ahtletic than any team Michigan played this year. If Michigan shows up like they did against Oregon thinking they will just physically dominate, they are in for a shocker.

And if you saw the Oregon vs. Michigan game, the difference in speed was very apparent. To say it's not a factor is a joke, that would be like saying it wasn't a factor in USC blowing out Big 10 co-champ Iowa last year.

It cuts both ways, and I have a feeling that the Big 10 fans think USC is just a speed based soft team that plays no defense.

[ATrillionaire]

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PdiddyPop said:

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ATrillionaire said:
Michigan 24
USC 10

USC beat only one team this year with fewer than 5 losses..and even Washington State loss 3 times.

book it!!

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*looks out for the Pac-10 vultures circling around the area*

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*sighs*

[JoeBudden]

I will say it again the only reason they lost is because of [censored you naughty boy] special teams and a bad game plan.
They lost by a touchdown and almost can back. The reason the lost the two games is because of [censored you naughty boy] special teams basically all UM fans know that is the reason go on the message boards ask the fans the most likely will say special teams.
They had 360 yards passing that is a hell of a lot of short passes to get that much so they had to go vertical atleast a few times and u have to have speed to go vertical.
If i am not mistaken Michigan's defense was basically out the whole first quarter so that is antoher reason y and basically to achieve that u have to rush.
The Big 10 is not a slow confernce Anthony Davis is fricken fast as hell. Steve Breaston fast as hell.
Yes speed was a minor factor in that game but the whole fact was SPECIAL TEAMS AND DEFENSE ON THE FIELD TO LONG IN THE FIRST QUARTER

[Bill_Abner]

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bkrich83 said:
It cuts both ways, and I have a feeling that the Big 10 fans think USC is just a speed based soft team that plays no defense.

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Oh, absolutely. No debate there. But the stereotypes don't fit for either team. Conferences aren't molded by a certain philosophy anymore. This isn't 1970. I do think that the Pac10 was a weaker conference as a whole this year, but saying that the Pac10 is all offense and the Big10 is 3 yards and a cloud of dust is just ignorance talking, regardless of whose side you're on.

[bkrich83]

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JoeBudden said:
I will say it again the only reason they lost is because of [censored you naughty boy] special teams and a bad game plan.
They lost by a touchdown and almost can back. The reason the lost the two games is because of [censored you naughty boy] special teams basically all UM fans know that is the reason go on the message boards ask the fans the most likely will say special teams.
They had 360 yards passing that is a hell of a lot of short passes to get that much so they had to go vertical atleast a few times and u have to have speed to go vertical.
If i am not mistaken Michigan's defense was basically out the whole first quarter so that is antoher reason y and basically to achieve that u have to rush.
The Big 10 is not a slow confernce Anthony Davis is fricken fast as hell. Steve Breaston fast as hell.
Yes speed was a minor factor in that game but the whole fact was SPECIAL TEAMS AND DEFENSE ON THE FIELD TO LONG IN THE FIRST QUARTER

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I don't think you get the concept of team speed. I saw the game. And the difference in speed was very apparent.

[bkrich83]

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Bill_Abner said:

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bkrich83 said:
It cuts both ways, and I have a feeling that the Big 10 fans think USC is just a speed based soft team that plays no defense.

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Oh, absolutely. No debate there. But the stereotypes don't fit for either team. Conferences aren't molded by a certain philosophy anymore. This isn't 1970. I do think that the Pac10 was a weaker conference as a whole this year, but saying that the Pac10 is all offense and the Big10 is 3 yards and a cloud of dust is just ignorance talking, regardless of whose side you're on.

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I completely agree. And the Pac 10 was definitely down this year. But USC would have competed for a Conference Title in any conference in the country.