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Old 05-25-2011, 02:00 PM   #49
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I guess it all depends on how we or the game defines prestige. To me if you have won multiple conference championships and at least one national championship you should be in the A's. If you have never won a NC should not. Joe Pa, Spurrier, Saban, Stoops, Mack, Tressel, Les Miles should be A's. You can assign A-, A, A+ however but can't think of too many others deserving of an A. Once you reach a certain prestige you would have to totally fail to lose it or drastically go lower. I never get the Joe Pa doesn't belong cuz he hasn't won. He is still revered as one if not the greatest coach ever. Same with programs. I hate Notre Dame, they haven't been NC contender really since I was in kindergarten, but they are prestigious. Prestige is defined as a level of respect one has achieved. Joe Pa, Spurrier, Notre Dame achieved that level many years ago, probably before most of the readers and posters were born, but nevertheless they achieved it.

I think B's and B+ should have a lot of coaches. B+ should be the ones who have won a NC or are on the verge of being great but not proven it over enough time(Chizik, Kelly, etc) or coaches who have had winning programs over at least a decade (Mark Richt, Chris Peterson, Gary Patterson).

I think if you have never won a conference championship you should be no higher than a B. I love Bo Pelini think he is the greatest defensive mind in the game but he has not proven he is any higher than a B coach in my mind.

That also goes back to the fact of coordinators keeping their grades. It depends on what it means in the game. Pelini one of top DC before getting HC job, Weis is one of the greatest offensive minds, but obviously not a great HC. Same can be said for Al Groh in regards to DC, or Chuck Long, DeWayne Walker, Kevin Steele all great as coordinators not great as HC'S. There are exceptions as all HC started somewhere, but I can not believe that Gus Malzahn who is one of the best OC in the nation would automatically be one of the best HC's.
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Old 05-25-2011, 02:01 PM   #50
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Canes, It's not that you don't like it. The problem is you've brought it up at every single avenue you could. You've made your stance pretty clear, at this point it's just becoming unnecessary.
Canes only brought it up once. HIs other post was a response to another persons post to him. I don't get Why people can't explain their opinions in a mature manner on this forum. ISnt that what its for? what's the difference between him stating he doesn't like it a few times and another saying they love it ten times? Both are opinions. Seems the "positive" towards EA opinions get slack on here for doing the same as negative do.
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You guys are ridiculous, please go back and read every post he has had. 1st he'll state his one opinion and then someone will bash him for it, so he will defend himself. The person you should be targeting are those who bash others opinions, not those who try to develop a coversation about how to improve the game.
Exactly! Just because he doesn't agree with the "sunshine and lollipops" view of everyone else, he should be banned? What? HE is mature promotion good convo. The guy that cashed him and told him to stop posting should be banned. HE attacked another member just for his differing opinion.
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Exactly! Just because he doesn't agree with the "sunshine and lollipops" view of everyone else, he should be banned? What? HE is mature promotion good convo. The guy that cashed him and told him to stop posting should be banned. HE attacked another member just for his differing opinion.

Yeh the priorities around here are backwards. People settle too much, if you want improvements to a game you have to ask for it. Thankfully NCAA has great devs who listen to their community. We are not at all bashing them, they have taken a HUGE step in the right direction with everything from presentation to gameplay and to now CC, oh and RTG! However there is always room for improvement in every feature.

I have created a thread dedicated for those who want to see improvements and can discuss how to improve the CC for NCAA 13.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-carousel.html
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Old 05-25-2011, 02:15 PM   #53
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His only agenda is to see a better game in the future. All for that, pretty sure most people here also share that same agenda.

Some people just take "negative" opinions the wrong way, like it's a personal attack on them.
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Canes only brought it up once. HIs other post was a response to another persons post to him. I don't get Why people can't explain their opinions in a mature manner on this forum. ISnt that what its for? what's the difference between him stating he doesn't like it a few times and another saying they love it ten times? Both are opinions. Seems the "positive" towards EA opinions get slack on here for doing the same as negative do.
I'm not going to bash anyone for disagreeing. I completely understand canes on this matter, as I'd love for Coaches to have ratings as well. But he hasn't brought this up once. He's had about 20+ post's and a couple of threads on the matter. I just feel like what's needed to be said has already been said.
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Move on from discussing Canes. Now. Back on topic.
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I'm not going to bash anyone for disagreeing. I completely understand canes on this matter, as I'd love for Coaches to have ratings as well. But he hasn't brought this up once. He's had about 20+ post's and a couple of threads on the matter. I just feel like what's needed to be said has already been said.
I see your point but, Why do you think there are giant wish lists all over this forum? because we asked for something once and said eff it? No, its cause we pounded the point home until we got it.
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