Strikes from the Single Collar Clinch are Underpowered

[iceberg3445]

Strikes need to be more powerful from the single collar clinch, especially uppercuts and elbows. Knockouts/rocks should be almost as common from this position as they are from the Muay Thai clinch.

Currently playing UFC 2 and had my opponent in single collar against the fence for at least a minute (very rare to hold this position so long in the game despite it being very common in real life). Despite throwing repeated uppercuts, elbows, and strikes to the face, my opponent was never even rocked.

I understand there were some changes to strike power in the clinch in UFC 3, but I still felt strikes were underpowered in the single collar position.

Game devs, please make strikes (especially head strikes) from this position more powerful to make the clinch a more beneficial component of the grappling game and also to make the game more realistic in general.


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[johnmangala]

Yes please clinch punch health events.

[iHazCode]

Agree with OP. Strikes from every position should be dangerous.

[TheGentlemanGhost]

The clinch striking is completely unbalanced, the only strikes that matter are the MT clinch strikes. So if you're not clinching to take an opponent down, it's a race to MT clinch to see who wins basically. Clinch needs to feel no different than stand up, if you are going against a clinch striker (whether it's MT or a good clinch boxer), you probably don't want to clinch at all. But since everybody has about the same MT clinch power and are basically powerless in all other clinch strikes, the clinch game is what it is now...which isn't really all that good tbh.

[iceberg3445]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheGentlemanGhost

The clinch striking is completely unbalanced, the only strikes that matter are the MT clinch strikes. So if you're not clinching to take an opponent down, it's a race to MT clinch to see who wins basically. Clinch needs to feel no different than stand up, if you are going against a clinch striker (which it's MT or a good clinch boxer), you probably don't want to clinch at all. But since everybody has about the same MT clinch power and are basically powerless in all other clinch strikes, the clinch game is what it is now...which isn't really all that good tbh.

I agree. Honestly the whole clinch (and takedown) mechanics need to be overhauled and given increased depth/fluidity imo. But adding damage to single collar strikes is a good start.


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[Kamel]

They need the push\pull clinch system from undisputed 3 I think this would solve the problem of weak punches and knees from the single collar and Muai Thai clinch

[AeroZeppelin27]

Completely agree with this, MT shouldn't be the only clinch position that feels dangerous from a striking perspective, I think a UD3 Esq system would be great, with momentum and whatnot affecting power, and both fighters technically being able to stun/KO eachother from a neutral position like single collar made the clinch feel much more dangerous, but even just stuns at low health would be nice.

I also wish you could counter certain TD's from SC with strikes, if your throwing an uppercut from SC as they shoot a double it should still connect, it seems to just cancel the strike in my experience. Minor thing, but id be nice to see.

Edit: Typo.

[TheRizzzle]

Imagine using Daniel Cormier if this were true. Or any shorter fighter honestly. It would give the shorter guys a new wrinkle and strategy.

Also look at Volkan against Manuwa.

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