How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter in ea

[ryangil23]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

To use that example, the flip side is to continue to give the team your money each year while you sit in the stands with a bag over your head complaining about the team. Also, the owner of the team traded away many of your team's best players and specifically said that they dont care if you (and fans like you) come to the game because they are marketing season tickets to non football fans.

Basically I don’t think there are enough people who could make a big enough dent as it is. The game would have to get considerably worse to a point that a lot more people who are content with it now would stop buying.

[Evil97]

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[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by ryangil23

Basically I don’t think there are enough people who could make a big enough dent as it is. The game would have to get considerably worse to a point that a lot more people who are content with it now would stop buying.

Maybe but you know what? Nobody ever tries it.

Its the case with every EA game here. You go into all these forums. You will find the same complaints. People are aware of the issues and still buy the game at full price.

My question is why should EA listen to anyone here?

I'm not being a dick. This is a serious question. We have shown that no matter what people here will buy the game at full price.

-You have GCs and devs telling you that OSers are the the target audience.

-You have EA removing features and game mechanics that people here love simply to cater to another audience.

- You have 6 yrs of wishlists and requests and EA seems more focused on creating wolf masks than adding what people here want.

Connecting it back to the subject of this topic....I dont believe you guys anymore.

I dont believe that if Yukes creates a unlicensed game or one with Bellator and One fighters that you guys wont buy the next EA UFC game even if the next one is even more geared towards casual fans. Be clear, EA is going to renew this license and it will be exclusive.

The license means too much to you guys and no matter what EA releases (within reason) most people here will buy the game at full price.

[TheUFCVeteran]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I dont believe that if Yukes creates a unlicensed game or one with Bellator and One fighters that you guys wont buy the next EA UFC game even if the next one is even more geared towards casual fans. Be clear, EA is going to renew this license and it will be exclusive. The license means too much to you guys and no matter what EA releases (within reason) most people here will buy the game at full price.

Just wanna chime in here. I promise you that I will never play an EA UFC game again. Literally the only reason I play it is because it has people who play online. I play UD3 for everything else.

If Yuke's ever make another MMA game and it's as good or better than UD3, I'll only be playing that. The UFC license would be great, but I want a game that suits what I like first and foremost. I don't care if the Yuke's game is Bellator, ONE, or RIZIN, it doesn't matter to me, as long as it's good.

I've learned from UFC 3 and 4. Clearly EA's design decisions don't cater to me, and while I wish they would at least give us options, it is what it is. I just wish we had an alternative which was more sim based.

[TheRizzzle]

Quote: Originally Posted by ryangil23

Basically I don’t think there are enough people who could make a big enough dent as it is. The game would have to get considerably worse to a point that a lot more people who are content with it now would stop buying.

But then the point is...I dont care. I have better things to do with my time. If I instead keep doing the thing I keep saying I dont like...why should anyone, based on my actions, believe it's as bad as I say it is?

My words say I don't enjoy it and it's not good enough. My dollars and attention say otherwise.

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[ryangil23]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheRizzzle

But then the point is...I dont care. I have better things to do with my time. If I instead keep doing the thing I keep saying I dont like...why should anyone, based on my actions, believe it's as bad as I say it is? My words say I don't enjoy it and it's not good enough. My dollars and attention say otherwise. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

It depends. If you like some parts of the game and don’t like others then you’d just be punishing yourself by not buying because what you’re doing isn’t going to make any difference anyway.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by ryangil23

It depends. If you like some parts of the game and don’t like others then you’d just be punishing yourself by not buying because what you’re doing isn’t going to make any difference anyway.

I'm fine with that. I'm fine with people who look at this game and say "I hate that EA is catering to casual fans and I hate a ton of their decisions but overall I'm OK with the game so I bought it." Thats reasonable.

The problem is thats not what happens here. People listed their must haves or they wont buy the game and EA gave them hardly any of them. People were VERY loud about not buying the game if they game didnt have X feature or Y mode...and none of them are in the game.

EA focused on casual fans for two reasons. 1) There are way more of them than hardcore fans and 2) Casual fans dont buy games that arent catered to them. I wish more hardcore fans would force EA to cater to them by withholding their money.

[ryangil23]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Maybe but you know what? Nobody ever tries it. Its the case with every EA game here. You go into all these forums. You will find the same complaints. People are aware of the issues and still buy the game at full price. My question is why should EA listen to anyone here? I'm not being a dick. This is a serious question. We have shown that no matter what people here will buy the game at full price. -You have GCs and devs telling you that OSers are the the target audience. -You have EA removing features and game mechanics that people here love simply to cater to another audience. - You have 6 yrs of wishlists and requests and EA seems more focused on creating wolf masks than adding what people here want. Connecting it back to the subject of this topic....I dont believe you guys anymore. I dont believe that if Yukes creates a unlicensed game or one with Bellator and One fighters that you guys wont buy the next EA UFC game even if the next one is even more geared towards casual fans. Be clear, EA is going to renew this license and it will be exclusive. The license means too much to you guys and no matter what EA releases (within reason) most people here will buy the game at full price.

On the topic of the thread, I’m not sure he’s talking about Yukes doing a non UFC MMA game. I took it as that he’s asking why EA focus on casuals when Yukes didn’t (in his mind at least, I don’t know because I don’t remember too much of the Yukes games).

On people buying or not buying the game, I think people just have to accept it for what it is. There are too many people who seem happy enough with it. If there are some parts of the game you like then you might a well try and make the best of it. Maybe some mechanics will be tuned or patched but that’ll be it. Take or leave it but it’s not changing in general. If you don’t buy it then everyone will just move on without you.

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I wish more hardcore fans would force EA to cater to them by withholding their money.

Same but realistically it’ll never happen