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  • SoxFan01605
    All Star
    • Jan 2008
    • 7982

    #106
    Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

    Originally posted by Bobhead
    As for the second part of your post, so you're saying the CPU automatically replaces these players in the lineup every time they are tired? I literally never sim games, I play every single one, so that's something I've never encountered. If that's what you're saying, that's definitely a legitimate complaint.
    Yup. The AI strictly adheres to the system and rests players when the time comes in all simmed games (whether for AI or user controlled teams). Fatigue has been a weak point for as long as I can remember (too little for pitchers and too much for position players IMO).

    The rate of energy lost was tweaked at one point a few years back (though it is still too high) but it's been in need of attention for far too long now. I would rather see a slower rate of decline and then a larger in-game penalty (via injury and performance) once whatever threshold is reached (making a separate energy rating both necessary and meaningful). As you mentioned earlier, there is very little in-game impact as it currently stands (thankfully, given the rate of loss).

    I imagine it could be a pretty large undertaking to overhaul the system the way I'd want it though (for various reasons: stat tracking, progression, bench play, etc) as I would love to see this trickle into depth charts, auto subs/preset off-days, DH use, call-ups/send downs, and player and manager traits. So, at the very least, separating durability and stamina ratings and, perhaps, providing a slider or on/off option related to progressive fatigue would be a nice start.

    One of the frustrating things for me with these yearly sports releases is how certain things are seemingly tweaked each year and others are left to get stale before being addressed (or flat-out removed in some cases). Energy and the more overarching aspects of depth chart management is one of those areas in need for The Show IMO.

    I know there are various priorities, technical limitations, resource restrictions (time, money, and otherwise), etc, etc. and I trust SCEA's judgement FAR more than most, so I'm not criticizing on that point. I'm just hoping the new hardware makes for far less "either/or" type scenarios as we move forward. This is the franchise I'm most excited for in that regard.

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    • pierce4757
      Just started!
      • Aug 2013
      • 1

      #107
      Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

      I would really like to see in RTTS if you're a relief pitcher in the bullpen the coach get a call form the bullpen and tell you to start warming up(this in in first person) and you can warm up with your pitcher until you go in. Same goes for started just warm up in the bullpen before the game. For a hitter I would want to warmup under the seats in the batting cage before the game to work on mechanics. Also if you're on deck you can swing the bat and warmup while waiting to hit. I would also like to see:
      -Rain Deays/double headers
      -New commentators
      -Create a ballpark(with endless options)
      -Retractable roofs

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      • vwnut13
        Rookie
        • Jan 2010
        • 32

        #108
        Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

        All I want is some (outside the) Stadium graphics and textures that don't absolutely suck.


        I'm really sick of the backdrops of stadiums looking like early PS2 (maybe even PS1) games.

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        • Sco291
          Pro
          • Jan 2011
          • 557

          #109
          Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

          Originally posted by vwnut13
          All I want is some (outside the) Stadium graphics and textures that don't absolutely suck.


          I'm really sick of the backdrops of stadiums looking like early PS2 (maybe even PS1) games.
          COMPLETELY AGREE. Give us some presentations from OUTSIDE the stadium. Fans walking in, vendors, ticket lines, concourses.... etc.

          Backdrop of the stadium to open the games is so boring and old and makes me skip right through it. Would also be nice to have the FULL lineups read, positioning different food vendors around the stadium at the location of your choosing. Maybe have a virtual seating chart of the stadium you can select. etc

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          • SFCFeagin
            Rookie
            • Dec 2012
            • 226

            #110
            Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

            Rain Delays/double headers
            Retractable roofs
            a Vita version for 14
            Pitchers to have RH vs.LH %
            Better catcher gear color options (multi example McCann)
            the ability the change/add a players facial hair (prob cant happen)
            able to edit all shoes ( example Cubs)
            Open web gloves that many players use
            modern shin guards
            option to choose if a game gets rained out (real-time) so we can customize the date they play the make-up game or double header in Franchise Mode.
            Real-time weather through the weather channel (reaching here)
            Option to charge the mound
            for MLB to give SCEA the correct uniform guide

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            • @legendm0de
              Pro
              • Dec 2012
              • 763

              #111
              Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

              One of the things i look forward to most will be the new stadiums, and I hope part of this will include a new, unique pa announcer for each MLB ballpark. I hope MLB the Show will be the first game to go this direction for sports games. I'm also interested in the new player models, one of the most lacking features on the PS3 players were in the eyes. One of the most important artistic aspects of modeling humans are in the eyes, in my opinion. I look forward to seeing how much different players will look and act in PS4.
              Red Legend

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              • Stroehms
                MVP
                • Jan 2008
                • 2640

                #112
                Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                Originally posted by @legendm0de
                One of the things i look forward to most will be the new stadiums, and I hope part of this will include a new, unique pa announcer for each MLB ballpark. I hope MLB the Show will be the first game to go this direction for sports games. I'm also interested in the new player models, one of the most lacking features on the PS3 players were in the eyes. One of the most important artistic aspects of modeling humans are in the eyes, in my opinion. I look forward to seeing how much different players will look and act in PS4.
                I really hope we get different body types and it affects how the jersey fits on the player model.

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                • loganmorrison1
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 246

                  #113
                  Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                  I would like to see some graphic enhancements, but I'm definately more concerned about gameplay. Some ideas:
                  Pitcher personalities, so a sinker ball pitcher will predominately throw the ball low, a 4 seam fastball pitcher will throw fastball waist up, etc. Along that same point, I would like to see pitches be dependant on their location to be effective. For example a sinker at the letters shouldn't have a sink action, it should look like a meatball, same for a slider.
                  Would like to see player match-ups, definately more stat overlays THIS IS A MUST, baseball is all about stats, we need more than league leader info

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                  • sk
                    God's Son.
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 515

                    #114
                    Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                    Originally posted by loganmorrison1
                    I would like to see some graphic enhancements, but I'm definately more concerned about gameplay. Some ideas:
                    Pitcher personalities, so a sinker ball pitcher will predominately throw the ball low, a 4 seam fastball pitcher will throw fastball waist up, etc. Along that same point, I would like to see pitches be dependant on their location to be effective. For example a sinker at the letters shouldn't have a sink action, it should look like a meatball, same for a slider.
                    Would like to see player match-ups, definately more stat overlays THIS IS A MUST, baseball is all about stats, we need more than league leader info
                    I have a problem with your sinker low, 4 seam high, slider meatball concept.

                    Real life pitchers throw sinkers high to change the eye level of the hitter, Ryan Dempster does this a lot.

                    Real life pitchers throw 4 seam fastballs low at the knees and often try to paint the low and away corner, so I don't know why you say 4 seam pitchers should mostly stay waist and up.

                    Real life pitchers throw get me over sliders, or belt high/letter high sliders to make it look like a fastball down the middle.
                    "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed"

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                    • mmorg
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 2304

                      #115
                      Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                      Originally posted by loganmorrison1
                      For example a sinker at the letters shouldn't have a sink action, it should look like a meatball, same for a slider.
                      This already happens.
                      Check me out on Twitch and YouTube

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                      • Matt_350z
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 174

                        #116
                        Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                        A lot of great ideas in this thread. I was going back and forth between an Xbox One and PS4. I am only getting one this time around, I just don't play games like I used to. The only games that get any time aymore are NHL, Battlefield.........and MLB The Show! So I went with a PS4 pre-order.

                        Some stuff I would be happy with.

                        1.) Better in game stat overlays(see MLB 2k series), with a more TV style presentation. I would like the option to toggle announcing teams. Meaning you have Vasgersian, Karros, and Lyons doing what is like a "national broadcast", but you could toggle it to an announcer or announcing team that is a bit more of a "homer" announcing team, much like as if you were watching the game on your local cable station.

                        2. Huge, expansive, create a team(expansion mode, as well as relocating a current team). Where you can create a team from scratch with every option imaginable(a lot of the tools are already there from the current DD), and let us do a franchise with that team.

                        3. RTTS overhaul. Give us everything we already have, and add stuff. Let us play out different career scenarios(player coming back from a career threatening injury, a veteran trying to reestablish himself after a few down seasons, a guy in the twilight of a HOF career, a career minor leaguer finally given the opportunity at the Show, a player going to play in Japan, there is a ton of different scenarios one could think of.

                        4. you can never add enough different/varied equipment options(I don't even need a ton of officially licensed stuff, that costs a ton of money, let us just be able to edit everything).

                        5. ditto with uniforms, old stadiums, and fake stadiums.

                        6. pre game anthem. silly to some, but I like it.

                        The gamplay as it stands in 13 is extremely solid. Bring that over to next gen and MLB 14, and add some nice extra's.

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                        • Hrycaj
                          Just started!
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 4

                          #117
                          Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                          One suggestion that I would have for rtts (and I think it should be a option, it's not for everybody) is have your guy have un-viewable caps in all categories. I really don't like having the 99 max player in every category. Pretty un-realistic. It would be cool to find out that I reached my contact cap at some number.

                          Continuing on rtts, I think it is high time for us to be able to import our guys from version to version.

                          Now for the complete fantasy ( I know it could never happen idea). I would love if rtts could be era specific. Could you imagine a rtts guy in the dead ball era, the 1920's, in the same lineup as some of the all time greats?! Of course roster restrictions/gameplay restrictions/ ball physics and a variety of other things would render this as an impossibility, but it would be cool.

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                          • CWood2
                            TNA & WWE thanks you
                            • May 2004
                            • 4356

                            #118
                            Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                            Originally posted by braves_94
                            I just wish teams like Astros, Twins, and Marlins didn't part with their best prospects during a down season to acquire someone like Rajai Davis.

                            Maybe just build in some code that limits the CPU's want from shipping off Top 50 prospects? It seems like in every franchise, teams get hosed when dealing their top guys for average Joes. When in real life those teams are incredibly protective of them. Seems like the only players that get dealt now are mid-range prospects close to the major leagues, and their path is blocked by an established player.
                            This is probably my biggest ask too - truly redefined trade logic. I want the CPU to laugh at me if I ask for Bryce Harper. I don't want my Red Sox trading Bogaerts, Bradley Jr and Barnes in one trade for a # 3 starter (that happened) and then spinning Big Papi in the same week (that also happened).

                            In my simming, I never saw a horrible team in rebuild mode. And too many teams thought they were contenders by trading top prospects for veterans.

                            But it's an unfair system. SCEA doesn't know which fake player we'll choose to create a top prospect meant to be the cornerstone of our future. They just see potential and ratings. So to fix this, I'd advocate for an editable rating. Likely to be traded vs. untradeable. Matt Garza would be highly likely to be traded (10 out of 99). Mike Trout, don't even think about it (99). You could even bake in no trade logic for veterans, whether they have that option or not. Pretty involved, but it's my ideal ask. Once a player like Garza gets traded, his rating would automatically go up substantially to avoid seeing him bounce around. And ideally, it would factor in where they are in their contract - which begs for real and accurate contracts so I can't resign Ellsbury for a few million bucks!

                            You could also introduce logic that looks at depth charts. Is a top prospect blocked by a 25 yr old all star, or is the position theirs as soon as they mature? That kind of logic would have encouraged the John Buck trade to clear space for D'Anaurd. It would have allowed the Sox to trade Iglesias with a higher ranked Bogaerts behind him. It would also tell you that the Halos could probably trade CJ Cron because he's blocked by Pujols and Trumbo (as a secondary position).

                            The trade logic hasn't worked in a few years and it's requiring a full 30 team control which I no longer have time for. I want to be able to play again and have the CPU do the heavy lifting for all teams but mine. The gameplay is already best-in-class, so if they can transition it to a new platform with enhanced graphics and physics, this would be PARAMOUNT.

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                            • lhslancers
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 3589

                              #119
                              Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                              I would like to see the feel of 12 with the absence of the pickoff bug. The ball physics and hit variety of 13. Gameplay has been great forever they really don't need to make too many tweaks. And please give me back the hitting window of 12.

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                              • Ghoste
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 333

                                #120
                                Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                                Originally posted by Bobhead
                                I just think he sounds like a video game even in real life when he speaks. He speaks almost too flawlessly, every word is perfectly pronounced etc...
                                "Dag Yabel Got 'Em!"


                                I'd really like to see a full-blown use of Real-Time Presentation. Really cut down on the cutscenes. No more cutscenes of the pitcher throwing his glove against the wall or the manager telling a player that he shouldn't have swung at the first pitch. There was a cutscene in this year's game where if I won a game with my closer, after the last out, it would show him as if he was just coming out of the dugout. That's just too disappointing.

                                If there is a home run, lets see the player go (in real-time) into the dugout and get high fives from his teammates. Maybe show the first pitch of the next at-bat then cut back to the dugout and showing the player putting his helmet & gloves away or getting some Gatorade. At the end of the game, show a lengthy team handshake all in real-time.

                                I like other suggestions like outside camera shots of the ballpark. And maybe finally have children models in the crowd.

                                -ghoste

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