MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[InTheoWeTrust]

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So is there someone I could pair with Betances to get Headley?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Hamels and Lee are both lights out with Hamels being the front runner for Cy Young.

Masterson, Bailey and Latos are out because they're contending

That leaves Samardzija, Hammel, Liriano, Lincecum, and I like Drew Smyly as the Tigers are out of it.

Samardzija: 9-7 3.31 ERA
Hammel: 5-6 4.15 ERA
Liriano: 7-6 3.93 ERA
Lincecum: 9-6 3.95 ERA
Smyly: 11-3 2.50 ERA

Going back to Carpenter and Headley:
Headley: .283/.374/.450 9 HRs 53 RBIs
Carpenter: .261/.339/.376 7 HRs 24 RBIs

This is at the deadline BTW.

And if someone could remind me how unrealistic it is for the Cubs to deal Rizzo to the Yankees that'd be great. I could see him raking at Yankee Stadium and want to pull the trigger but know I cant.

Rizzo to the Yankees is very, very unrealistic. Cubs wouldn't do it.

1.) Smyly and Samardzija will be too much. Hammel, Liriano and Lincecum all work though. Easiest to hardest in this order. Hammel > Liriano > Lincecum. I think you can get a deal for Lincecum though.

2.) I would target Headley. Carpenter probably won't work. Headley is pretty cheap. The Padres bullpen is relatively weak so if you changed Betances him and Gohara could work.

3.) Rizzo is almost 100% a lock to not move for awhile.

I agree with most of this. I'm not so sure about Lincecum. I think he means more to the Giants than even his ok stats warrant.

So is there someone I could pair with Betances to get Headley?

I think Headley could be had for Betances, Jose Campos and Zolio Almonte. Headley looks like he's doing well in your chise and if you boost Betances up in ratings, that should be fair and pretty realistic if the Padres are out of the running. You could probably take back a fringe arm like Billy Buckner in the deal as well for org depth.

EDIT: Would be interesting to see how much the Petco-->Yankee Stadium helps Headley's bat.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Someone else earlier said that Carp was available. Also, Bourjos isn't a lock in center, and Taveras isn't really a center fielder, which is why I mentioned Ellsbury. The Cardinals need hitting more than pitching right now, and they wouldn't be interested in CC, especially for their lead off hitter.

I think the biggest problem in all this is the Cardinals have no logical replacement at third base for Carpenter should he be traded. Ellis is listed on the depth chart, but I wouldn't want him starting there, and Descalso just fills space. On top of that, they really don't have a top prospect at third either, so at minimum a third baseman would need to come back in any Carpenter trade.

Yeah I don't see them moving Carpenter unless they get a replacement in the deal. Trade them A-Rod haha That always solves everything.

Would it change anything if Solarte was in a hypothetical Matt Carpenter deal? Just playing devil's advocate a little. I agree that Headley is a more likely candidate for a few different reasons.

[cardinal511]

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Would it change anything if Solarte was in a hypothetical Matt Carpenter deal? Just playing devil's advocate a little. I agree that Headley is a more likely candidate for a few different reasons.

I'm sticking with my original feeling which is short of Tanaka or Ellsbury the Cardinals wouldn't be interested in anyone on the Yankees roster in relation to a Carpenter deal. The Cardinals are generally conservative when it comes to trading away talent, and would need to be clearly winning the deal to make the move.

[Totte]

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I'm sticking with my original feeling which is short of Tanaka or Ellsbury the Cardinals wouldn't be interested in anyone on the Yankees roster in relation to a Carpenter deal. The Cardinals are generally conservative when it comes to trading away talent, and would need to be clearly winning the deal to make the move.

Further adding to the argument is the extension Carpenter signed over the winter with the Cardinals. Agree that Tanaka and Ellsbury are the lone points of interest

[24]

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For anyone trying to make major moves with the Yankees, Year 1 of your franchise is not the time to do it. The Yankees have some decent Farm potential, but no studly prospects. My honest suggestions to you all are the following,

Scout well, draft well. Yankees may not have a good starting position in the June Amateur draft but you can find some high quality sleepers if you search hard enough. There's a couple of threads on scouting and drafting that I'd recommend you guys take a look at. You need good prospects if you wanna trade for guys like Stanton.

Free Agency. Yankees have the Money you might as well spend it. Sign a Star or two in the offseason.

[RyanMan82]

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I'm the Braves in the beginning of the 2015 season. I'm looking ahead, and I am really thinking on moving Justin Upton, depending on how the season goes. He's really not in my future plans, as he is a FA after this season and I fully plan on giving Heyward a deal to keep him in Atl for his career. His power numbers decreased in 2014 (as Heyward, Simmons, Johnson, BJ, and Schafer all hit below .250 [the main guys I plugged into the 1 and 2 spot]). Here's some stats from the 2014 season to give more of a context. The Red Sox are the only team interested in him at this point.

Upton: 2014 560 ABs .283 Avg 17 HRs 68 RBIs

Red Sox MLB OFs last year:

LF Mike Carp: 425 ABs .242 Avg 7 HRs 43 RBIs
CF Grady Sizemore: 337 ABs .270 Avg 8 HRs 41 RBIs
RF Victorino: 372 ABs .242 Avg 6 HR 40 RBIs
RF Nava: 535 ABs .275 Avg 15 HRs 73 RBIs

I'm not sure if this would work, as Upton is on the books for 19.2M this year, but I figured I would pick you guys brains. Thanks.

EDIT: Looking for OF prospects as well as C, spreadsheet says mid A, high B (but him being a FA and his stat progression may have changed that).

[philliesfan136]

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Not looking for realism/fair but I'm interested to see what you guys think about these trades. Fantasy draft Phillies in 2015 and am down $22M in salary after re-signing Bundy/Trout/Machado/etc.

SS Hanley Ramirez (88) for SS Garrett Hovis (81/B), SP Maurice Burris (79/A), SP Ryan Potts (75/B)

SP Francisco Liriano (85), SS Jose Montanez (77/B), and 1B Chris Carter (76/A) for 2B Scott Tremie (69/A), SP Corey Gregory (71/A), RF Brian Valdez (71/A)

SP Justin Masterson (82), OF Nate Schierholtz (75), and 2B D.J. LeMahieu (75/B) for LF Julian Holland (79/A), CF Steven Nivar (77/A), and SP Casey Kelly (80/A)

OF Alejandro De Aza (81), 3B Manny Santana (79/B), and 1B David Cooper (71/B) for SP John Quiroz (81/B), 1B Chad McDonald (80/A), and SP Sean Herndon (72/A)
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This is only the first year of me playing the Show since I never had a PS3. So I'm just messing around with the trade system, it's a lot different from 2K. I found it interesting that all of them said "this benefits our team" but got declined.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I'm the Braves in the beginning of the 2015 season. I'm looking ahead, and I am really thinking on moving Justin Upton, depending on how the season goes. He's really not in my future plans, as he is a FA after this season and I fully plan on giving Heyward a deal to keep him in Atl for his career. His power numbers decreased in 2014 (as Heyward, Simmons, Johnson, BJ, and Schafer all hit below .250 [the main guys I plugged into the 1 and 2 spot]). Here's some stats from the 2014 season to give more of a context. The Red Sox are the only team interested in him at this point.

Upton: 2014 560 ABs .283 Avg 17 HRs 68 RBIs

Red Sox MLB OFs last year:

LF Mike Carp: 425 ABs .242 Avg 7 HRs 43 RBIs
CF Grady Sizemore: 337 ABs .270 Avg 8 HRs 41 RBIs
RF Victorino: 372 ABs .242 Avg 6 HR 40 RBIs
RF Nava: 535 ABs .275 Avg 15 HRs 73 RBIs

I'm not sure if this would work, as Upton is on the books for 19.2M this year, but I figured I would pick you guys brains. Thanks.

EDIT: Looking for OF prospects as well as C, spreadsheet says mid A, high B (but him being a FA and his stat progression may have changed that).

Upton really isn't the Red Sox prototypical hitter. He's more of a free-swinger and they like guys who grind out ABs as do all SABR-heavy orgs.

But, you could probably get something like Swihart + Marrero + lowB/high C SP prospect for J-Up since he had a meh 2014 season. If Bogaerts is doing well for Boston, that helps make Marrero more of an option. Also Upton meeting the Monstah is in your favor.

I'd probably wait on doing anything until June, though, if you care about realism.

Not looking for realism/fair but I'm interested to see what you guys think about these trades. Fantasy draft Phillies in 2015 and am down $22M in salary after re-signing Bundy/Trout/Machado/etc.

SS Hanley Ramirez (88) for SS Garrett Hovis (81/B), SP Maurice Burris (79/A), SP Ryan Potts (75/B)

SP Francisco Liriano (85), SS Jose Montanez (77/B), and 1B Chris Carter (76/A) for 2B Scott Tremie (69/A), SP Corey Gregory (71/A), RF Brian Valdez (71/A)

SP Justin Masterson (82), OF Nate Schierholtz (75), and 2B D.J. LeMahieu (75/B) for LF Julian Holland (79/A), CF Steven Nivar (77/A), and SP Casey Kelly (80/A)

OF Alejandro De Aza (81), 3B Manny Santana (79/B), and 1B David Cooper (71/B) for SP John Quiroz (81/B), 1B Chad McDonald (80/A), and SP Sean Herndon (72/A)
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This is only the first year of me playing the Show since I never had a PS3. So I'm just messing around with the trade system, it's a lot different from 2K. I found it interesting that all of them said "this benefits our team" but got declined.

First trade is ok.

I don't think the others are fair at all. They are heavily in your favor.

[philliesfan136]

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First trade is ok.

I don't think the others are fair at all. They are heavily in your favor.

yeah, I was just messing around with these, trying to see how the system works. The Hanley one seems to make sense for me because he isn't as elite a hitter at 31 and Hovis has more upside. Clearing a good chunk of cash at that.
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what would you guys suggest to get rid of Liriano, Masterson, De Aza, and Hanley though?

currently looking at:
2B Gene Hansen (79)
LF Alex Gordon (85)
CF Mike Trout (99)
1B Chris Davis (88)
SS Manny Machado (91)
3B Han-Ram (86)
C Rob Brantly (86)
RF Cameron Maybin (88)

SP Madison Bumgarner (92)
SP Yovani Gallardo (91)
SP Dylan Bundy (88)
SP Francisco Liriano (85)
SP Dan Straily (85)
*rule 5* LR Ken Finley (76)
LR Justin Masterson (82)

rest of the bullpen is fine. plan was Liriano would be traded and Masterson would go in the rotation but Justin has struggled. Cisco Kid accepted a $7.1M qualifying offer, which I didn't want but whatever. De Aza was starting in OF last year but he's only an 81 so I've started Maybin over him. Looking at middle infield, outfield, or pitching prospects.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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yeah, I was just messing around with these, trying to see how the system works. The Hanley one seems to make sense for me because he isn't as elite a hitter at 31 and Hovis has more upside. Clearing a good chunk of cash at that.

Good call. Hey, it never hurts to propose, right?

I also switched over from the 360 and 2K to MLB 14 on PS4. I think it's an upgrade! Especially with the depth of roster management.

[skeletore2002]

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I'm the Yankees and I'm tied for first, but really struggling in the bullpen. Using the original OSFM rosters, so Betances is terrible. Other than Robertson, all the other arms are rated in the low 70's or below. I'm thinking about making a move for a reliever that a team might be trying to get rid of due to them making a lot of money. Jonathan Papelbon came to mind, and the Phillies are really struggling. What would it take to get him? Or is there someone else more realistic. I'm looking for either a closer to bump Robertson to a setup man, or a setup man that can do the job so I can keep Robertson in the closer's role. Thanks for any help.

[og236]

MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I'm the Yankees and I'm tied for first, but really struggling in the bullpen. Using the original OSFM rosters, so Betances is terrible. Other than Robertson, all the other arms are rated in the low 70's or below. I'm thinking about making a move for a reliever that a team might be trying to get rid of due to them making a lot of money. Jonathan Papelbon came to mind, and the Phillies are really struggling. What would it take to get him? Or is there someone else more realistic. I'm looking for either a closer to bump Robertson to a setup man, or a setup man that can do the job so I can keep Robertson in the closer's role. Thanks for any help.

Are the Phillies in contention? & Huston Street from the Padres might be another option.

The spreadsheet has 2 High C's for Street & a low B for Papelbon.

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[RyanMan82]

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Upton really isn't the Red Sox prototypical hitter. He's more of a free-swinger and they like guys who grind out ABs as do all SABR-heavy orgs.

But, you could probably get something like Swihart + Marrero + lowB/high C SP prospect for J-Up since he had a meh 2014 season. If Bogaerts is doing well for Boston, that helps make Marrero more of an option. Also Upton meeting the Monstah is in your favor.

I'd probably wait on doing anything until June, though, if you care about realism.

Yeah I figured the closer to the deadline the better, and it will open up more teams to deal with.

[stlcards234]

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Looking for fair and realistic. All-Star break in my first year of my Cards chise (OSFM Opening Day). KC is out of contention and has dealt Shields.


KC Receives:
SP Jaime Garcia (80 OVR, B)
STL Receives:
SP John Lamb (67 OVR, C)
RP Michael Mariot (70 OVR, C)


Spreadsheet asks for 2 High C for Jaime. In context, Jaime is out of my starting rotation and I am looking to dump salary to open room for another trade. KC has dealt Shields for a plethora of prospects and they can afford to lose a few high C prospect. I also asked for a RP to help mend the worst bullpen in the league. I figure Jaime is a relatively cheap SP that would already hold a solid spot in their rotation. Projecting to a 4/5 starter once their prospects are ready.