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  • jbrsanders13
    Rookie
    • Jun 2013
    • 32

    #3421
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by FSanchez12
    Small trade I'd like to do with my Pirates. I'm still a little "salty" if you will about the Pirates trading away Brock Holt in the Hanrahan deal. I was wondering what it would take from the Pirates to get him back? Bear in mind this is during Spring Training. I'd like another utility player to shore up the left side of my infield and second. I'd prefer to move a positional player more than a pitcher in this move.
    I think Travis Snider for Brock Holt would be pretty fair as long as you're willing to give Snider up. The Red Sox need outfielders.

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    • Totte
      MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 2919

      #3422
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Coper3000
      Normally, I think I would, especially with all of my AAA rotation struggles/injuries, plus that's really an intriguing return. But, I still think I'd like Marrero to be included, as I really like his game, and have for quite a while.

      My ideal return would be: WMB + Marrero + Ranaudo.

      What do you think about this? Cashner is pitching lights out, and he's headed for the 2014 ASG.

      I might consider substituting Ranaudo, but it would require Johnson, plus another piece, and that's not something I really want to do. More of a Plan B, and I am not sure I would even do that.

      WMB, Marrero and Ranaudo for Cashner and Denorfia?
      Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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      • Totte
        MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 2919

        #3423
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Do you still consider Ichiro two high C's? That basically what he was dealt for when the Yankees acquired him and he's not the same .300 hitter anymore.
        Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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        • eF 5ive
          MVP
          • May 2011
          • 2068

          #3424
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          How bad are these:

          Dodgers (44-28)acquire: RP Choate, C T. Cruz, and SP A. Reyes.

          Cardinals (38-33)acquire: RP Withrow, SP H. Ryuu


          Rockies(29-42) acquire: RP Shaw, CF Clint Frazier

          Indians(36-36) acquire: RP Belisle, SP Anderson.


          White Sox (30-41)acquire: CP Hoover, SP Stephenson

          Reds (33-36)acquire: RP Boggs.

          I can cancel the Cardinals/Dodgers trade, it just happened. The bottom two happened before I started tracking trades by the CPU. I don't have 30 team control but pretty sure backing out and loading will give a chance for them to not propose it again.
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          • Totte
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 2919

            #3425
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by eF 5ive
            How bad are these:

            Dodgers (44-28)acquire: RP Choate, C T. Cruz, and SP A. Reyes.

            Cardinals (38-33)acquire: RP Withrow, SP H. Ryuu
            It's an even trade value wise on paper but unless the Dodgers are far, far, far out of it, this isn't realistic. It's also not realistic that the Dodgers would be selling Withrow (young promsing top 30 prospect) and Ryu (friendly contract) for an old loogy in Choate and a backup C in Cruz when they already have Federowicz).

            Originally posted by eF 5ive
            Rockies(29-42) acquire: RP Shaw, CF Clint Frazier

            Indians(36-36) acquire: RP Belisle, SP Anderson.
            Shaw for Belisle is a wash. A healthy Anderson putting up CY numbers could fetch Frazier if the Indians are in the race.

            Originally posted by eF 5ive
            White Sox (30-41)acquire: CP Hoover, SP Stephenson

            Reds (33-36)acquire: RP Boggs.
            Awful. The Reds are being robbed
            Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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            • RyanMan82
              Rookie
              • May 2014
              • 60

              #3426
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by AC
              Middlebrooks for Ozuna is actually pretty solid.
              Ozuna is definitely worth more than Middlebrooks. If you adjust the stats so that Ozuna and WMB have the same PA's, it would looks as:

              Ozuna: 30R, 61H, 7 2B, 11HR, 39RBI, 2SB, 16BB, 65SO, .266/.310/.441

              WMB: 27R, 42H, 9 2B, 6HR, 27RBI, 0SB, 29BB, 69SO, .197/.305/.324

              Now I don't know how your franchise is going, but I'm not sure why Miami would make this trade. They seem fine with allowing McGhee to be there stop gap at 3B until Moran is ready. Also, I'm just curious how your OF looks like.

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              • Bull_Market
                Pro
                • Jul 2012
                • 618

                #3427
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                What would it take for the White Sox to get one of the following:

                Ian Kennedy
                Dillon Gee
                Jon Niese
                #HellaBandz
                In Gunna I Trust

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                • Totte
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 2919

                  #3428
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Bull_Market
                  What would it take for the White Sox to get one of the following:



                  Ian Kennedy

                  Dillon Gee

                  Jon Niese

                  Kennedy for Danks?

                  As for Gee/Niese, the Mets have a pressing need for a SS. Alexei Ramirez for either one is fine. Or you could package Semien/Beckham with Webb/Petricka
                  Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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                  • AC
                    Win the East
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14951

                    #3429
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by RyanMan82
                    Ozuna is definitely worth more than Middlebrooks. If you adjust the stats so that Ozuna and WMB have the same PA's, it would looks as:

                    Ozuna: 30R, 61H, 7 2B, 11HR, 39RBI, 2SB, 16BB, 65SO, .266/.310/.441

                    WMB: 27R, 42H, 9 2B, 6HR, 27RBI, 0SB, 29BB, 69SO, .197/.305/.324

                    Now I don't know how your franchise is going, but I'm not sure why Miami would make this trade. They seem fine with allowing McGhee to be there stop gap at 3B until Moran is ready. Also, I'm just curious how your OF looks like.
                    SSS

                    Ozuna career wRC+: 98
                    Middlebrooks career wRC+: 97
                    Ozuna career wOBA: .315
                    Middlebrooks career wOBA: .320
                    Ozuna career BABIP: .323
                    Middlebrooks career BABIP: .291
                    Ozuna ZiPS RoS wRC+: 97
                    Middlebrooks RoS wRC+: 97
                    Ozuna age: 23
                    Middlebrooks age: 25

                    Ozuna has been slightly better but is likely going to regress. They're projected as equal true talent wise. Ozuna is better defensively and younger, but Middlebrooks has the better pedigree. It fits both teams' needs. They're nearly equal players but better fits after this trade.

                    Originally posted by Totte
                    Kennedy for Danks?
                    Padres never ever do that
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                    • RyanMan82
                      Rookie
                      • May 2014
                      • 60

                      #3430
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by AC
                      SSS

                      Ozuna career wRC+: 98
                      Middlebrooks career wRC+: 97
                      Ozuna career wOBA: .315
                      Middlebrooks career wOBA: .320
                      Ozuna career BABIP: .323
                      Middlebrooks career BABIP: .291
                      Ozuna ZiPS RoS wRC+: 97
                      Middlebrooks RoS wRC+: 97
                      Ozuna age: 23
                      Middlebrooks age: 25

                      Ozuna has been slightly better but is likely going to regress. They're projected as equal true talent wise. Ozuna is better defensively and younger, but Middlebrooks has the better pedigree. It fits both teams' needs. They're nearly equal players but better fits after this trade.
                      Are you expecting that Ozuna will regress due to his BABIP? He is faster than your average baseball player so that will attribute to a higher rating. Also WMB's average worries me, as he is clearly seeing the ball well (his OBP is ~200 points higher than his BA), yet he's not getting hits. This could go either way, but it seems that plate discipline is usually one of the last traits a player gains in route to being a successful hitter. As for Ozuna, he is still striking out a bit more than you would like, but I would believe that would get better over time. As for WMB being a fit for the Marlins, I don't really believe that. Moran is currently ranked the 43rd top prospect, with a ETA of 2016 according to MLB.com. If the Marlins got rid of McGehee it would make sense, but the Marlins are looking to build for the future, and trading one of their 3rd best OF who's 23 for a young 3B when they already have a top prospect doesn't really make sense.

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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14951

                        #3431
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by RyanMan82
                        Are you expecting that Ozuna will regress due to his BABIP? He is faster than your average baseball player so that will attribute to a higher rating. Also WMB's average worries me, as he is clearly seeing the ball well (his OBP is ~200 points higher than his BA), yet he's not getting hits. This could go either way, but it seems that plate discipline is usually one of the last traits a player gains in route to being a successful hitter. As for Ozuna, he is still striking out a bit more than you would like, but I would believe that would get better over time. As for WMB being a fit for the Marlins, I don't really believe that. Moran is currently ranked the 43rd top prospect, with a ETA of 2016 according to MLB.com. If the Marlins got rid of McGehee it would make sense, but the Marlins are looking to build for the future, and trading one of their 3rd best OF who's 23 for a young 3B when they already have a top prospect doesn't really make sense.
                        That's a very common myth. Fun fact: There's a 0.0592 R^2 between speed and BABIP. This means that speed explains just 5.9% of the variance in BABIP. I.e, 94.1% of BABIP is explained by things other than speed. Ozuna's speed does not explain his BABIP. LD% explains 17% of the variance in BABIP, a slightly higher rate, and Ozuna's mediocre LD% suggests that he will in fact regress towards his BABIP.

                        Middlebrooks is getting unlucky on balls in play. That's what the ZiPS RoS projections are. Ozuna is projected to be a little worse, Middlebrooks a little better, and they even out.

                        The Marlins have been tied to 3Bs for a long time now. Moran is no guarantee - he's doing okay at A+ but I'd expect more - and players can move off of positions, or WMB can be traded when the time comes, or Moran. There's no such thing as too much of a good thing.

                        The Marlins OF is full, too. Marisnick, Yelich and Stanton leave absolutely no room for Ozuna. They can afford to deal from a surplus into a deficit.

                        I'm very confident that it's a fair deal.
                        "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                        • Legaci3
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 331

                          #3432
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Legaci3
                          Hey I'm doing a franchise with the Cubs and was thinking of pulling these 2 trades and any advice would be good. Any status needed I can provide.

                          Cubs get: LF Dominic Brown
                          Phillies get: 1B Dan Vogelbach/SP Kyle Hendricks and RF Jorge Soler

                          Cubs get: SP Aaron Sanchez, SP Alberto Tirado and CF DJ Davis
                          Toronto get: SP Jeff Samardzija and 2B Darwin Barney

                          Seen the Blue Jays one early in the thread

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                          Any feedback would be amazing.. Just wanna keep playing my franchise lol

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                          • JBearsL
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 120

                            #3433
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Legaci3
                            Any feedback would be amazing.. Just wanna keep playing my franchise lol

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                            The Blue Jays trade is a good trade. Obviously Toronto has to be in the playoff race.

                            The way Dominic Brown is hitting this year, there is no way I would give up Soler for him, but that is your decision. Philly would have to be out of playoff contention, since they are holding out for one last run. If you're going to do it, Hendricks makes more sense to me than Vogelbach, but I think you could do a lot better than Dominic Brown for Soler + Hendricks.

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                            • Legaci3
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 331

                              #3434
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by JBearsL
                              The Blue Jays trade is a good trade. Obviously Toronto has to be in the playoff race.

                              The way Dominic Brown is hitting this year, there is no way I would give up Soler for him, but that is your decision. Philly would have to be out of playoff contention, since they are holding out for one last run. If you're going to do it, Hendricks makes more sense to me than Vogelbach, but I think you could do a lot better than Dominic Brown for Soler + Hendricks.
                              What would be other options that I can look to get for those 2?

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                              • JBearsL
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 120

                                #3435
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Legaci3
                                What would be other options that I can look to get for those 2?

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                                Are you at the trade deadline? You could probably do Soler + Johnson/Edwards for Cespedes if OAK is out of it.

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