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  • Jakesparrow1008
    Rookie
    • Aug 2012
    • 314

    #4966
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by k_mac
    not really help but I don't think the O's move Wieters or Davis, even if they're out of it. Same with SF & Cain. I just don't see those guys moving realistically.
    Yeah, those were three guys I wasn't really sure of.

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    • hampshirestags
      Pro
      • May 2014
      • 500

      #4967
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      [QUOTE =Jakesp.arrow1008;2046390797]WARNING: EXTREMELY LONG POST AHEAD

      I'm at July 17 in my New York Mets franchise, and I'm looking to make some deals for the CPU teams. I want everything to be fair and realistic, so I'm looking for some


      Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]

      M. Wieters - CHW/SEA (expensive)
      McHenry - TB
      D. Murphy - TOR
      JJ Hardy - DET
      D. Span - BOS
      D. Stubbs - TB
      G. Floyd - CHW/CLE/MIN ...make them pay
      D. Gee - TOR ...though he may get crushed in the AL East

      As far as bullpen arms, unless it is a legit closer, I throw in a suitable arm to the buying team. Allows the seller to open a bullpen slot for the next kid wonder
      "for love of the game" - B. Chapel

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      • k_mac
        MVP
        • Mar 2011
        • 2059

        #4968
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Phennixx
        Here's a few of my Mariners 14 chise I made at the deadline:

        SEA:

        Marlon Byrd OF

        PHI:

        Nick Franklin 2B
        Brandon Mauer SP/RP
        Stefen Romero RF

        .........

        NYY:

        Cliff Lee SP

        PHI:

        Mason Williams CF

        Greg Bird 1B

        Dellin Betances RP

        .........

        HOU:

        Bubba Starling RF

        KC:

        Jesus Guzman 1B
        ........

        DET

        Joaquin Benoit RP

        SD:

        Devon Travis 2B
        ...........

        BOS:

        Dayan Viciedo LF

        CWS:

        Garin Cecchini 3B

        Brandon Workman SP


        Tell me what you think. All trades were trying for both fairness and realism.

        thanks to those how inspired or suggested some of the trades I made, keeps things interesting around trade deadline
        trade 1: too much for Byrd.

        trade 2: not enough for Lee, NYY doesn't have the prospects to make that deal.

        trade 3: don't think the Royals do that, unless Guzman is playing very well. (What's the verdict on Starling guys? Do you see him as a mid C? Bc that's Guzman's value)

        trade 4: assuming Travis is a B in game, it fits spreadsheet value. I wouldn't do it, but the Tigers might. I'd do two C's here instead. Even if the Tigers are desperate.

        trade 5: please no

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        • royals19
          MVP
          • Jan 2012
          • 2182

          #4969
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by k_mac
          trade 1: too much for Byrd.

          trade 2: not enough for Lee, NYY doesn't have the prospects to make that deal.

          trade 3: don't think the Royals do that, unless Guzman is playing very well. (What's the verdict on Starling guys? Do you see him as a mid C? Bc that's Guzman's value)

          trade 4: assuming Travis is a B in game, it fits spreadsheet value. I wouldn't do it, but the Tigers might. I'd do two C's here instead. Even if the Tigers are desperate.

          trade 5: please no
          It kills me to say it because I'm a huge Bubba Starling fan but.... He's pretty much a lottery ticket at this point. He's hard to value because you still see these flashes of greatness. For instance, one day, he'll hit an opposite field grand slam 475 feet then the next day he'll whiff 5 times. He's still young enough that he can figure it out and there's still some hope he can be a star but it's quickly fading every time he takes the field.

          For me, its completely circumstantial if the Royals trade him or not. I can't ever realistically see them trading Bubba Starling for a AAAA player or a career minor leaguer. The only way they move him is if he's part of a bigger trade. The Royals confidence in him is through the roof for whatever reason. The Royals would absolutely have to be blown away to move him...

          For value sake though, I would have to say he's a high to mid C.

          Also, I can't ever see the Royals doing a trade for Jesus Guzman unless Hosmer or Butler are out for extended periods of time... They already have plenty of bench players, in fact so many that they are rotating them through the 40 man roster. It makes little sense to trade someone like Starling in exchange for a marginal talent like Guzman. All that trade does is just take away another roster spot and create more headaches.



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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #4970
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Jakesparrow1008
            WARNING: EXTREMELY LONG POST AHEAD
            Castro -> TOR
            Davis -> MIL
            Phillips -> TOR
            Asdrubal -> LAA
            Span -> BOS
            Pagan -> TB
            Stubs -> ARZ
            Lincecum -> STL
            Floyd -> TOR

            Just some ideas.
            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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            • Deuce2223
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 12571

              #4971
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Thank you for those who posted ideas for my Franchise trade deadline. Really like the suggestions.

              As far as the person who posted the M's giving up Maurer, Franklin and Romero for Byrd, As a M's fan I would be really upset if we had to give up that much for Byrd.

              I would be okay with Maurer and maybe a lesser OF like Morban, Blash, or Avery, but why give up a RHB OF bat to get a RHB OF bat and well Franklin lost his job to Cano, he still has way more value then to go in a package for someone like Byrd.

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              • Phennixx
                Rookie
                • Jun 2009
                • 155

                #4972
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Thanks for feedback I was in need of a nap lol I reloaded a prior save and went with these trades for my M's and who are gonna make a wild card run.


                SEA:

                Brandon Mauer SR/RP (C)
                Tyler Marlette C (C)

                PHI:

                Marlon Byrd RF (C)

                ................

                SEA:

                David Price SP (A)

                TB:

                Taijaun Walker SP (A)
                Nick Franklin 2B (B)
                Tyler Pike SP (B)
                Daniel Farquhar RP (C)
                Chris Taylor SS (B)

                Give's the Ms a legit rotation for challenging the A's and Angels. TB is out of it and needs to restock it's young talent which this would do. M's grab Byrd as a good right bat...

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                • WaitTilNextYear
                  Go Cubs Go
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 16830

                  #4973
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Phennixx
                  Here's a few of my Mariners 14 chise I made at the deadline:

                  SEA:

                  Marlon Byrd OF

                  PHI:

                  Nick Franklin 2B
                  Brandon Mauer SP/RP
                  Stefen Romero RF

                  .........

                  NYY:

                  Cliff Lee SP

                  PHI:

                  Mason Williams CF

                  Greg Bird 1B

                  Dellin Betances RP

                  .........

                  HOU:

                  Bubba Starling RF

                  KC:

                  Jesus Guzman 1B
                  ........

                  DET

                  Joaquin Benoit RP

                  SD:

                  Devon Travis 2B
                  ...........

                  BOS:

                  Dayan Viciedo LF

                  CWS:

                  Garin Cecchini 3B

                  Brandon Workman SP


                  Tell me what you think. All trades were trying for both fairness and realism.

                  thanks to those how inspired or suggested some of the trades I made, keeps things interesting around trade deadline
                  M's, Phillies, and Red Sox getting absolutely pilfered here. Other than that, no real issues.

                  Originally posted by royals19
                  It kills me to say it because I'm a huge Bubba Starling fan but.... He's pretty much a lottery ticket at this point. He's hard to value because you still see these flashes of greatness. For instance, one day, he'll hit an opposite field grand slam 475 feet then the next day he'll whiff 5 times. He's still young enough that he can figure it out and there's still some hope he can be a star but it's quickly fading every time he takes the field.

                  For me, its completely circumstantial if the Royals trade him or not. I can't ever realistically see them trading Bubba Starling for a AAAA player or a career minor leaguer. The only way they move him is if he's part of a bigger trade. The Royals confidence in him is through the roof for whatever reason. The Royals would absolutely have to be blown away to move him...

                  For value sake though, I would have to say he's a high to mid C.

                  Also, I can't ever see the Royals doing a trade for Jesus Guzman unless Hosmer or Butler are out for extended periods of time... They already have plenty of bench players, in fact so many that they are rotating them through the 40 man roster. It makes little sense to trade someone like Starling in exchange for a marginal talent like Guzman. All that trade does is just take away another roster spot and create more headaches.
                  I completely agree with 100% of your post. One of the issues is that I think it was NDAlum's Astros chise where he dealt Guzman (who in fairness was hitting well) for Starling, which has made it a thing. I didn't agree with the original deal, but now people are recycling it. Expect to see more like it. On the positive side, it shows that people are actively searching through the thread looking for ideas and precedent and not just asking the same exact question over and over, which is nice.
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                  • WaitTilNextYear
                    Go Cubs Go
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 16830

                    #4974
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by SwedishTouch76
                    Im only 11 games in but ive played Franchise in the past and struggle hitting with him. Im thinking deal him to AL where he can DH as well. A right handed cf to start vs lefties would be nice. So Bryce straight up for Stanton you think is fair?
                    If it's only fairness you're after, then I have no issues with you doing that. It's 100% unrealistic to make this trade though...too early and WAS would never trade Harper so young.
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                    • Jakesparrow1008
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 314

                      #4975
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by hampshirestags
                      M. Wieters - CHW/SEA (expensive)
                      McHenry - TB
                      D. Murphy - TOR
                      JJ Hardy - DET
                      D. Span - BOS
                      D. Stubbs - TB
                      G. Floyd - CHW/CLE/MIN ...make them pay
                      D. Gee - TOR ...though he may get crushed in the AL East

                      As far as bullpen arms, unless it is a legit closer, I throw in a suitable arm to the buying team. Allows the seller to open a bullpen slot for the next kid wonder
                      Originally posted by AC
                      Castro -> TOR
                      Davis -> MIL
                      Phillips -> TOR
                      Asdrubal -> LAA
                      Span -> BOS
                      Pagan -> TB
                      Stubs -> ARZ
                      Lincecum -> STL
                      Floyd -> TOR

                      Just some ideas.
                      Okay I've come up with some ideas, let me know what you think.

                      TOR gets: C Jason Castro
                      HOU gets: OF D.J. Davis + 3B Andy Burns

                      TB gets: C Michael McKenry
                      COL gets: OF Jerry Sands/RP Josh Leuke

                      BAL gets: SP Rick Porcello
                      DET gets: SS J.J. Hardy

                      BOS gets: OF Denard Span + RP Drew Storen
                      WAS gets: SP Trey Ball

                      TOR gets: 2B Brandon Phillips
                      CIN gets: RP John Stilson + 2B Christian Lopes

                      COL gets: SP Chase Anderson
                      ARZ gets: OF Drew Stubbs

                      MIL gets: 1B Ike Davis
                      NYM gets: OF Randal Grichuk
                      STL gets: SP Johnny Hellweg

                      LAA gets: SS Asdrubal Cabrera
                      CLE gets: 2B Taylor Lindsey/1B CJ Cron + CP Cam Bedrosian

                      TB gets: OF Angel Pagan
                      SF gets: SS Hak-Ju Lee + OF Kevin Kiermaier

                      ATL gets: SP Deck McGuire + 2B Chris Getz
                      TOR gets: SP Gavin Floyd

                      NYM gets: OF Bubba Starling
                      KC gets: OF Chris Young

                      NYM gets: OF Kole Calhoun
                      LAA gets: SP Dillon Gee

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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14951

                        #4976
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Jakesparrow1008
                        Okay I've come up with some ideas, let me know what you think.

                        TOR gets: C Jason Castro
                        HOU gets: OF D.J. Davis + 3B Andy Burns

                        TB gets: C Michael McKenry
                        COL gets: OF Jerry Sands/RP Josh Leuke

                        BAL gets: SP Rick Porcello
                        DET gets: SS J.J. Hardy

                        BOS gets: OF Denard Span + RP Drew Storen
                        WAS gets: SP Trey Ball

                        TOR gets: 2B Brandon Phillips
                        CIN gets: RP John Stilson + 2B Christian Lopes

                        COL gets: SP Chase Anderson
                        ARZ gets: OF Drew Stubbs

                        MIL gets: 1B Ike Davis
                        NYM gets: OF Randal Grichuk
                        STL gets: SP Johnny Hellweg

                        LAA gets: SS Asdrubal Cabrera
                        CLE gets: 2B Taylor Lindsey/1B CJ Cron + CP Cam Bedrosian

                        TB gets: OF Angel Pagan
                        SF gets: SS Hak-Ju Lee + OF Kevin Kiermaier

                        ATL gets: SP Deck McGuire + 2B Chris Getz
                        TOR gets: SP Gavin Floyd

                        NYM gets: OF Bubba Starling
                        KC gets: OF Chris Young

                        NYM gets: OF Kole Calhoun
                        LAA gets: SP Dillon Gee
                        Solid, not enough, solid but move Machado to shortstop, illegal by the CBA, not enough, not enough, solid, solid, solid, not enough, not enough, solid, respectively.

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                        • Jakesparrow1008
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 314

                          #4977
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by AC
                          Solid, not enough, solid but move Machado to shortstop, illegal by the CBA, not enough, not enough, solid, solid, solid, not enough, not enough, solid, respectively.

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                          For the "not enough" ones, which side has to give up more?

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                          • cardinal511
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 205

                            #4978
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Jakesparrow1008
                            Okay I've come up with some ideas, let me know what you think.


                            MIL gets: 1B Ike Davis
                            NYM gets: OF Randal Grichuk
                            STL gets: SP Johnny Hellweg
                            The Cardinals wouldn't do this, as Grichuk has played in the big leagues this year and Hellweg wouldn't even be one of our better pitching prospects if traded to us.

                            Maybe just a Brewers and Mets deal
                            NYM gets: Roache/ Haniger/ Taylor
                            MIL gets: Ike Davis

                            The Mets still get an outfield prospect and the Brewers still get Davis.

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                            • HozAndMoose
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 3614

                              #4979
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              That last HR did it. Im KC. What do i give up to get Stanton?

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                              • WaitTilNextYear
                                Go Cubs Go
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 16830

                                #4980
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                                That last HR did it. Im KC. What do i give up to get Stanton?
                                If you're serious, I'd recommend doing a search of the thread. Stanton is by far the most talked about player in this 500+ page thread. Trades to pretty much every team that could afford him have been hashed out already.
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