MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[AC]

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The Stros wouldn't deal Belt for Fowler?

Think you have it backwards.

[kmoser]

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The Stros wouldn't deal Belt for Fowler?



Think you have it backwards.

Yeah I just didn't see anything else from the Giants and he was he was the only one that was close to the same value as Fowler.
Not sure what they would want from SF or what they would get in return


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[WaitTilNextYear]

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Plouffe is a guy I am pretty set on moving for a mid-level spect. Spreadsheet has him at high C + high C. Lots of positional versatility (1B, 2B, SS, 3B, LF, RF).

BEWARE long post...

Part I.

Following up from a couple of weeks ago on dealing away Trevor Plouffe in my Twins chise. I quoted the relevant part of my last post above. Plouffe will be getting a bit too expensive for me with Sano lurking--plus Plouffe leads my team in errors and GIDP which makes him a joy to play with! Relevant stats: .241/.303/.439 (.742 OPS) 12 HR 40 RBI. OK, he leads in homers too.

Looking mainly at the Dodgers here (although Philly and the Yankees also have need for a 3B and are contending..but their farms are pretty bad).

It's July 5th and the Dodgers have just overtaken Arizona in the NL West. LAD is 51-39 and 1.5 games up on the Snakes. But they just lost Beckett to a broken arm and Dee Gordon to a torn groin. Not to mention Chone Figgins and Juan Uribe are putting up exactly the stats you might guess at 3B. They could use a shot in the arm.

I am thinking about packaging them Plouffe with a throw-in depth starter like Kevin Correia (63.2 IP 6-3 3.39 ERA 1.49 WHIP @ AAA) and a reliever such as Jared Burton (32 IP 4.78 ERA 4.78 K/9 5.13 DIPS, 13 HLD) or Anthony Swarzak (18.2 IP 1.45 ERA 0.80 WHIP 7.23 K/9 3.27 DIPS). I don't expect Correia to get anything of value, it just makes sense to send LAD an arm after Beckett went down.

I am looking at some combination of 2 or 3 of the following prospects in return and am hoping you guys can help me sort it out....

SP Ross Stripling/83 POT (105 IP 3.26 ERA 1.41 WHIP 7.80 K/9 2.61 DIPS made AA ASG)

SP Matt Magill/78 POT (114 IP 3.79 ERA 1.39 WHIP 8.92 K/9 3.73 DIPS, AAA)

SP Zach Lee/84 POT (117.2 IP 2.60 ERA 1.10 WHIP 6.27 K/9 3.18 DIPS, AAA)

1B Justin Chigbogu/77 POT (A ball, no stats)

SS Erisbel Arruebarena/72 POT (.190/.246/.215, 0 HR 9 RBI, MLB)

RP Jose Dominguez/72 POT (29.2 IP 2.43 ERA 1.28 WHIP 10.62 K/9 3.14 DIPS, AA)

The SPs are listed in order of who I'd like to nab most.

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Part II.

Spoiler

Looking to deal Josh Willingham (high C) to the Mariners. Seattle is 46-41, 2.0 GB of Oakland and tied with TOR for the 2nd wild card spot. Their team is 14th in runs scored and is very left-handed.

I had J-Will manually injured until June like IRL so keep that in mind looking at his stats: .265/.306/.510 7 HR 15 RBI.

Strongly looking at nabbing C Tyler Marlette/79 POT (.275/.340/.400 6 HR 47 RBI, AA) in return.

Would give consideration to nabbing (or expanding from just Willingham...could toss in Brian Duensing/Casey Fien/Chris Parmelee/Jason Kubel) one of the following in addition to Marlette:

SP Brandon Maurer/72 POT (69 IP 4.96 ERA 1.61 WHIP 7.96 K/9 3.78 DIPS, AAA)

RP Stephen Kohlscheen/68 POT (57.1 IP 2.51 ERA 1.19 WHIP 11.15 K/9 2.20 DIPS, AA)

OF Stefen Romero/74 POT (.269/.307/.381 3 HR 35 RBI, AAA)

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Looking to add CF Dexter Fowler to the Giants. A couple games after the break and trailing the Dodgers by 3. Astros are sitting 20 games at the bottom of their division. Fowler is batting .235, 4 HRs and 31 RBIs ( down from previous year). Any suggestions on a potential deal? Spreadsheet values him at two Low Bs.


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Are you concerned with making realistic trades? Because Fowler is not a realistic target because he was just traded for in the off season.

If you don't really care about that, you can work it out with some combo of Susac, Gary Brown, Edwin Escobar, Clayton Blackburn, and Heath Hembree.

[kmoser]

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Are you concerned with making realistic trades? Because Fowler is not a realistic target because he was just traded for in the off season.



If you don't really care about that, you can work it out with some combo of Susac, Gary Brown, Edwin Escobar, Clayton Blackburn, and Heath Hembree.

Well they would trade him if they got the right deal but you are right, the Astros still have him under team control (Arb.) so they will likely keep him.


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[hampshirestags]

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I think Plouffe to LAD is a smart move for both teams. I would think Plouffe+Correra+Swarzak would net Magill+Chigbogu (long term prospect).

I think you need to add Fien to Willingham and even though I think it's still an overpay for Seattle, it's a playoff trade and they need a bat. Though, I may be too high on Marlette.

Edit: Instead of Marlette, how about Choi from Seattle? Prototype Korean hitter that can rake (though busted for juice) and you can leave Sano at 3b where he should belong. I really think Marlette would 'buy' more that Wills.

[AC]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Yeah I just didn't see anything else from the Giants and he was he was the only one that was close to the same value as Fowler.
Not sure what they would want from SF or what they would get in return

Andrew Susac + Eduardo Escobar?

BEWARE long post...

Part I.

Following up from a couple of weeks ago on dealing away Trevor Plouffe in my Twins chise. I quoted the relevant part of my last post above. Plouffe will be getting a bit too expensive for me with Sano lurking--plus Plouffe leads my team in errors and GIDP which makes him a joy to play with! Relevant stats: .241/.303/.439 (.742 OPS) 12 HR 40 RBI. OK, he leads in homers too.

Looking mainly at the Dodgers here (although Philly and the Yankees also have need for a 3B and are contending..but their farms are pretty bad).

I think that Plouffe is a better fit for the Yankees. The Dodgers are more inclined to go after a bigger name. How interested are you in Mason Williams or Tyler Austin? Could be great fits for you.

Part II.

Spoiler

Looking to deal Josh Willingham (high C) to the Mariners. Seattle is 46-41, 2.0 GB of Oakland and tied with TOR for the 2nd wild card spot. Their team is 14th in runs scored and is very left-handed.

Willingham is a good fit for the M's. Hultzen with something else thrown in would work very well. Chris Taylor/Edwin Diaz + Brandon Maurer could work too.

[Godgers12]

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So, I traded Danny Hultzen (91 pot), Victor Sanchez (89 pot), and Tyler Marlette (79 pot) for Giancarlo Stanton. I just chalked it up to the Marlins being the same old stupid Marlins. Should I feel bad, or should I send them Peterson, or Paxton so I don't feel as guilty, and just say they were the PTBNL?

[AC]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

So, I traded Danny Hultzen (91 pot), Victor Sanchez (89 pot), and Tyler Marlette (79 pot) for Giancarlo Stanton. I just chalked it up to the Marlins being the same old stupid Marlins. Should I feel bad, or should I send them Peterson, or Paxton so I don't feel as guilty, and just say they were the PTBNL?

I'm more interested in how Hultzen and Sanchez have potentials that high lol.

[kmoser]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

So, I traded Danny Hultzen (91 pot), Victor Sanchez (89 pot), and Tyler Marlette (79 pot) for Giancarlo Stanton. I just chalked it up to the Marlins being the same old stupid Marlins. Should I feel bad, or should I send them Peterson, or Paxton so I don't feel as guilty, and just say they were the PTBNL?

You don't have to feel bad if you don't want to, but I would. I might send both of those guys you mentioned but I think the Marlins would want Walker


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[Godgers12]

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I'm more interested in how Hultzen and Sanchez have potentials that high lol.

I made some potential edits. I also gave Hultzen 49 durability, he has pitched great when healthy, and was the #2 pick. And Sanchez was one of the top int'l FA's, so I figured that was good for at least a high B it was like 85 pot so I only upped it by 4. Those were the only 2 I changed on the M's. I did make a few other potential edits on other teams as I saw fit.

[PhilliesFan13]

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I actually have a real trade question for the folks who help out a lot on here. I have read that the Mariners are in serious discussion with the Phillies about Marlon Byrd. What kind of piece do you think the Phillies could get for Byrd who is having a really good season. .265/.316/.483, 18 home runs, 20 doubles, 2 triples, 54 RBI.

[kmoser]

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I actually have a real trade question for the folks who help out a lot on here. I have read that the Mariners are in serious discussion with the Phillies about Marlon Byrd. What kind of piece do you think the Phillies could get for Byrd who is having a really good season. .265/.316/.483, 18 home runs, 20 doubles, 2 triples, 54 RBI.

In MLB The Show terms they would be lucky to get a High C, if that. Ask the guys in the MLB Off-Topic Thread, since you are talking about a real life trade.


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[WaitTilNextYear]

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Thanks for the thoughts gentlemen.

AC: I responded to your multi-quoting in bold.

I am currently mulling:

Plouffe to LAD for Magill/Stripling + Chigbogu

Willingham + Fien to SEA for Marlette/Hultzen + Romero/Kohlscheen

If you guys see anything fatally unfair/unrealistic, or simply something that makes a better deal, please let me know. Keep in mind that I am solidly looking for catching and pitching spects first and foremost as the centerpiece of any return package.

I think Plouffe to LAD is a smart move for both teams. I would think Plouffe+Correra+Swarzak would net Magill+Chigbogu (long term prospect).

I think you need to add Fien to Willingham and even though I think it's still an overpay for Seattle, it's a playoff trade and they need a bat. Though, I may be too high on Marlette.

Edit: Instead of Marlette, how about Choi from Seattle? Prototype Korean hitter that can rake (though busted for juice) and you can leave Sano at 3b where he should belong. I really think Marlette would 'buy' more that Wills.

Thanks for the reply. I am really thinking about that trade of Plouffe to the Dodgers for Stripling or Magill plus Chigbogu.

I don't really have much interest in another 1B prospect Choi. I already dealt for Greg Bird and if I get Chigbogu, I don't know what I'd do with Choi. I am really in need of a catching spect and figured Marlette would be obtainable because Zunino is so young and entrenched. I am not married to the idea of Marlette though especially because he's not much of a defensive catcher.

I think that Plouffe is a better fit for the Yankees. The Dodgers are more inclined to go after a bigger name. How interested are you in Mason Williams or Tyler Austin? Could be great fits for you.

The Dodgers don't really have any bigger names to choose from. Headley might get traded but probably not in the division. The Dodgers have huge holes at 2B and 3B right now and Plouffe could play both positions. The only other real piece that might be competitive is Daniel Murphy from the Mets, but the issue there is 3B is a long term problem and 2B is a short term problem with Dee's injury, so it makes more sense to add the guy who plays 3B in Plouffe.

I like the Yankees as a spot for Plouffe also, but they are a bit less desperate and don't have anything I'd want in return. With Arcia, Buxton, Kepler, Hicks, etc...no real need to add another OF spect over pitching/catching--which is what I'm really after. Unless, of course, J.R. Murphy would be involved...lol

Willingham is a good fit for the M's. Hultzen with something else thrown in would work very well. Chris Taylor/Edwin Diaz + Brandon Maurer could work too.

Hmmm..was really focused on Marlette, but would definitely consider adding Hultzen. Is that too much though for a Willingham rental? I was mainly looking at second tier guys with C POT like Marlette/Romero etc. If you think Hultzen and a minor piece would be reasonable for Willingham, I'd be a fool to turn that down.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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So, I traded Danny Hultzen (91 pot), Victor Sanchez (89 pot), and Tyler Marlette (79 pot) for Giancarlo Stanton. I just chalked it up to the Marlins being the same old stupid Marlins. Should I feel bad, or should I send them Peterson, or Paxton so I don't feel as guilty, and just say they were the PTBNL?

LOL. You must've gotten deuce's version of OSFM with all Mariners jacked up (kidding, deuce). In my hybrid roster, Hultzen is only an 82 POT and Sanchez is also an 82 POT. Marlette is the same in both of our rosters.

EDIT: BY the way, yes that's a big time ripoff for Stanton, so you should kick in a couple of additional really nice spects or you'll have the guilty conscience, lol.