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  • Deuce2223
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 12571

    #5086
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ClarkWGrizwold
    Which path to go for my Mets franchise? I'm currently 4 games under in June and looking to make a change for now and for the future. The Marlins and Cubs are out and in rebuild mode and the Rockies are in it and need help at SP and 2b and have a ton of OF. So I have 2 paths to choose from. All my proposals were accepted but I didn't save the roster as I'm not sure wich way to go.

    Path 1.

    Mets get Javier Baez for R Montero and another P prospect.
    Mets get C Dickerson, Josh Rutledge, T Chatwood for Niese and Murphy.

    Path 2

    Mets get Giancarlo and no name low prospect for Niese, Murphy, Plawecki and Montero.
    Cubs are out of it, yet you want them to trade away Baez. It's never going to happen.

    Why would they trade their #1 prospect in their farm system and the #1 SS prospect in baseball for a pitcher who is already 23 and in real life is 4-2 in 11 starts in AAA.

    If the Cubs trade a SS, they trade Castro which I don't believe they will. Bryant figures to move to the RF, Baez can play 3B and Russell can go to 2B or Castro can move to 2B and Russell stays at SS. Alcantara will likely end up in CF with Soler or Almora in LF. Or chances are one of them is dealt for pitching.

    Also I don't believe Stanton goes to NY without Syndergaard in the deal and I would think they would also ask for 1B D. Smith as they don't have a current young 1B in their system. They might also ask for Nimmo to replace Stanton in the OF.

    I totally get trying to trade for young studs on other teams but to get them you have to give up your best prospects in return, not the guy's you don't envision having a future with your team.

    There is a reason why Seattle didn't trade T. Walker, M. Zunino, N. Franklin and others for Stanton last season. It's called no GM wants to be the guy who gives away his farm for 1 player.
    Last edited by Deuce2223; 07-16-2014, 01:49 PM.

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    • k_mac
      MVP
      • Mar 2011
      • 2059

      #5087
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by ClarkWGrizwold
      Which path to go for my Mets franchise? I'm currently 4 games under in June and looking to make a change for now and for the future. The Marlins and Cubs are out and in rebuild mode and the Rockies are in it and need help at SP and 2b and have a ton of OF. So I have 2 paths to choose from. All my proposals were accepted but I didn't save the roster as I'm not sure wich way to go.

      Path 1.

      Mets get Javier Baez for R Montero and another P prospect.
      Mets get C Dickerson, Josh Rutledge, T Chatwood for Niese and Murphy.

      Path 2

      Mets get Giancarlo and no name low prospect for Niese, Murphy, Plawecki and Montero.
      You presented the best possible reason to not make trade 1 and trade 3 right there. The Cubs are rebuilding, they're not giving up Baez. I just don't see it happening for anything short of Wheeler + Syndergaard realistically.

      In the Marlins scenario, they're also rebuilding and don't need Niese or Murphy. It would take at least Wheeler + Syndergaard + Montero + Plawecki + Nimmo/Flores. Considering you're in the same division.

      The other part 1 option is okay, but I think you could get a little more if your guys are playing decently. Pick one of Herrera or Story to go with Rutledge + Chatwood or Dickerson

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      • DavidTheGreat20
        MVP
        • Apr 2012
        • 1445

        #5088
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Would it be kinda realistic to trade Josh Bell (Pirates OF) because Marte, McCutchen, and Polanco are all gonna be the outfielders of the future?


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        • kmoser
          MVP
          • Jul 2012
          • 1398

          #5089
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by DavidTheGreat20
          Would it be kinda realistic to trade Josh Bell (Pirates OF) because Marte, McCutchen, and Polanco are all gonna be the outfielders of the future?


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          I don't see why not


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          • k_mac
            MVP
            • Mar 2011
            • 2059

            #5090
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Xcavs31x
            So made a trade in my LAD chise. I moved zach lee to San Fran for Sandoval. The giants are almost 20 games out of first. Plus he wasn't playing great. I saw the trade suggested before and it appears to match the spreadsheet. Just wanted opinions
            Yeah, that isn't a bad deal. You're fine.

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            • k_mac
              MVP
              • Mar 2011
              • 2059

              #5091
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ESexton18
              Now AC - with your blue jays knowledge would you consider a Hamels/Lee + Utley for Pompey Sanchez and Norris fair value?
              I'm not AC, but I think you could probably get another small piece back with that.

              The Phillies would be getting two top 50 prospects (Pompey + Norris) and another in the top 100 (Sanchez). If the Jays throw in a high C, I think that should be fair.

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              • AUcpa
                Rookie
                • Jun 2012
                • 17

                #5092
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Which roster do you guys use specifically?
                Also, do you guys play all 162 in full or simulate a lot?

                I'm tired of fake players, bad trades, so I'm about to scrap the franchise midyear which hurts since I do play all the games in full.

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                • ESexton18
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 203

                  #5093
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by AUcpa
                  Which roster do you guys use specifically?
                  Also, do you guys play all 162 in full or simulate a lot?

                  I'm tired of fake players, bad trades, so I'm about to scrap the franchise midyear which hurts since I do play all the games in full.
                  I love the Operation Sports Full Minor league roster... it's the most realistic and the most enjoyable with all the real life players in there.
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                  • Totte
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 2919

                    #5094
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by AUcpa
                    Which roster do you guys use specifically?

                    Also, do you guys play all 162 in full or simulate a lot?



                    I'm tired of fake players, bad trades, so I'm about to scrap the franchise midyear which hurts since I do play all the games in full.

                    There's three to choose from.

                    OSFM 2 by Knight
                    OSFM Hybrid 2.1 by Willard76
                    OSFM Hybrid 2.3 backdated to Opening Day by Totte
                    Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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                    • ctodd42196
                      Just started!
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 1

                      #5095
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      i'm just above .500 at the end of april with the mets with no production out of tejada or flores at short. would like to make a trade but don't want to part ways with syndergaard what do you recommend?

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                      • k_mac
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2059

                        #5096
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by ctodd42196
                        i'm just above .500 at the end of april with the mets with no production out of tejada or flores at short. would like to make a trade but don't want to part ways with syndergaard what do you recommend?
                        Everth Cabrera, Didi Gregorius, Chris Owings, Danny Espinosa, Tyler Pastornicky, Asdrubal Caberea, Alexei Ramirez, JJ Hardy

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                        • Deuce2223
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 12571

                          #5097
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by DavidTheGreat20
                          Would it be kinda realistic to trade Josh Bell (Pirates OF) because Marte, McCutchen, and Polanco are all gonna be the outfielders of the future?


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                          I agree with the early statement of why not. He was a 2nd round pick in 2011 and well he is still in their Top-10 of prospects, you make a valued point they have 3 very good young OF's already on the MLB roster, plus Harrison who can play the OF plus have A. Meadows available down the road as well.

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                          • AUcpa
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 17

                            #5098
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Totte
                            There's three to choose from.

                            OSFM 2 by Knight
                            OSFM Hybrid 2.1 by Willard76
                            OSFM Hybrid 2.3 backdated to Opening Day by Totte
                            Thanks!

                            OSFM is Operation Sports Full Minors?

                            What's the noticeable differences of those three?

                            Can't wait to start over.

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                            • Deuce2223
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 12571

                              #5099
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by AUcpa
                              Which roster do you guys use specifically?
                              Also, do you guys play all 162 in full or simulate a lot?

                              I'm tired of fake players, bad trades, so I'm about to scrap the franchise midyear which hurts since I do play all the games in full.
                              As far as games played, I play every 3rd game starting with my #3 SP, then use my #1, then the #4, then the #2, then the #5, then back to the #3. That way I pitch with everyone in my rotation instead of just always playing with King Felix in my M's Franchise.

                              As far as rosters I any of the ones already mentioned are great.

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                              • WaitTilNextYear
                                Go Cubs Go
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 16830

                                #5100
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by ESexton18
                                I find the spreadsheet very useful for at least basing trade ideas around. However it should be understood that the spreadsheet is not tailored for everyone's franchise. Players could over/under perform their values thus changing things. But it gives a good baseline for what to look for in any deals.

                                I think also it depends on what roster set you use. OSFM is different than others and can affect values. Prospects especially, can be B potential in the OSFM but in real life could be blowing up and worthy of an A which changes their spreadsheet value.

                                I think using the spreadsheet and then asking here for more clarification is a good way to keep things fair and realistic so thanks to everyone who participates regularly.

                                Now AC - with your blue jays knowledge would you consider a Hamels/Lee + Utley for Pompey Sanchez and Norris fair value?
                                I think that's way too little to ask in return for BOTH Lee/Hamels AND Utley. I know it's RAJ here, but the Phillies are getting destroyed. imo Aaron Sanchez is turning out to be a pretty big disappointment because the guy just won't ever have even mediocre command (he has even admitted it himself, lol). Stuff only gets you so far.

                                Aside from that, the return you've indicated would probably not get Hamels by himself. It would probably be ok for Lee solo, but adding in Utley will boost the price quite a bit (he's an All-Star still).

                                Originally posted by ClarkWGrizwold
                                Which path to go for my Mets franchise? I'm currently 4 games under in June and looking to make a change for now and for the future. The Marlins and Cubs are out and in rebuild mode and the Rockies are in it and need help at SP and 2b and have a ton of OF. So I have 2 paths to choose from. All my proposals were accepted but I didn't save the roster as I'm not sure wich way to go.

                                Path 1.

                                Mets get Javier Baez for R Montero and another P prospect.
                                Mets get C Dickerson, Josh Rutledge, T Chatwood for Niese and Murphy.

                                Path 2

                                Mets get Giancarlo and no name low prospect for Niese, Murphy, Plawecki and Montero.
                                Please go in neither one of these ways. Both of these frameworks are just bad, bad, bad. Not even close to fair value for either Baez or Stanton and neither team's strategy would make this remotely realistic.

                                Originally posted by Xcavs31x
                                So made a trade in my LAD chise. I moved zach lee to San Fran for Sandoval. The giants are almost 20 games out of first. Plus he wasn't playing great. I saw the trade suggested before and it appears to match the spreadsheet. Just wanted opinions
                                I'm not a fan. It's sort of rare to see intra-division trade. It's even more rare for big rivals (Red Sox-Yankees, Cubs-Cards, Dodgers-Giants) to do business. And it's microscopically rare for these rivals to deal significant pieces when they do make deals. I could imagine near riots in the bay area if this deal happened. Colletti would have to protect his neck, nah'mean?

                                Originally posted by DavidTheGreat20
                                Would it be kinda realistic to trade Josh Bell (Pirates OF) because Marte, McCutchen, and Polanco are all gonna be the outfielders of the future?


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                                Certainly a reasonable thought.

                                Originally posted by ctodd42196
                                i'm just above .500 at the end of april with the mets with no production out of tejada or flores at short. would like to make a trade but don't want to part ways with syndergaard what do you recommend?
                                Be patient. That's my recommendation.
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