MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[redsox4evur]

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Show us proof that he doesn't. elite SP prospects and theres maybe 4 other SP Specs that are established and better then Salazar. I would say that makes him an elite SP spec. They are just harder to obtain then good hitting 3B/RF specs, thats a proven fact. Salazar has been nothing but dominant over the last 2-3 years (not couting this april). so how does Bryant have more value again? (this should be good, let me go get my popcorn)

I will provide my proof when you provide yours??? Please give me proof minus the fact that pitchers are harder to come by

[37]

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How can this discussion NOT make someone wanna 'chise with the Cubs? lol

[mmorg]

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I will provide my proof when you provide yours??? Please give me proof minus the fact that pitchers are harder to come by

Salazar has been dominant for 1 year of his whole career. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. The year before last he didn't even touch a baseball because he was recovering from TJS and the year before that wasn't even considered a top 20 prospect in the Indians system.

[redsox4evur]

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How can this discussion NOT make someone wanna 'chise with the Cubs? lol

Because there is such thing as a fantasy where I can take Kris Bryant in like 25th round!!!

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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Salazar has been dominant for 1 year of his whole career. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. The year before last he didn't even touch a baseball because he was recovering from TJS and the year before that wasn't even considered a top 20 prospect in the Indians system.

Yeah, he had 50 or so innings in the majors last year and he is saying that he's a elite prospect. I dont know, i'd just much rather have Bryant than Salazar. Bryant has enormous power.
Don't get me wrong, Salazar is a nice young pitcher, but he's not elite imo.

[Kipnis22]

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I will provide my proof when you provide yours??? Please give me proof minus the fact that pitchers are harder to come by

I already provided my proof, i do not need to do it twice. but its ok you have nothing. I understand. If you dont know how a an elite SP is harder to find then you know absolutley nothing about baseball. Pitchers are harder to find because pitchers can get away with alot of things such as not having movement on a fastball or not having the best control in the minors and college. that make them look better then what they are, but get exposed in the majors. other positions if you can see how well they track a ball and how quick they turn their hips, plus how their bat speed is you can usually tell how likley a player is to pan out.

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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I already provided my proof, i do not need to do it twice. but its ok you have nothing. I understand. If you dont know how a an elite SP is harder to find then you know absolutley nothing about baseball. Pitchers are harder to find because pitchers can get away with alot of things such as not having movement on a fastball or not having the best control in the minors and college. that make them look better then what they are, but get exposed in the majors. other positions if you can see how well they track a ball and how quick they turn their hips, plus how their bat speed is you can usually tell how likley a player is to pan out.

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Salazar is elite?

By the way, power (Bryant) is also exceedingly hard to come by these days.

[Kipnis22]

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Salazar has been dominant for 1 year of his whole career. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. The year before last he didn't even touch a baseball because he was recovering from TJS and the year before that wasn't even considered a top 20 prospect in the Indians system.

What a crock of ****, you should probably stop lying before i continue to prove you know absolultey nothing.

1 good year?
2007: 14 starts 1.96 ERA 0.995 WHIP (17)
2012: 22 starts 2.36 ERA 1.1 WHIP
2013: 21 starts 2.71 ERA 1.00 WHIP (Minors)

Funny how those are also his 3 years with the most starts eh?

looks like more then 1 good year, and it looks like as usual, your caught talking out your ***

[Kipnis22]

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Salazar is elite?

By the way, power (Bryant) is also exceedingly hard to come by these days.

an elite SP Spec yes he is. and no Mark Reynolds and Pedro Alvarez types are a dime a dozen, sorry

but then again, Bryant who has accomplished nothing in his career, according to you is better then Salazar, which has got to be by far the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Wake me if he ever even makes the big leagues then we'll talk.

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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an elite SP Spec yes he is. and no Mark Reynolds and Pedro Alvarez types are a dime a dozen, sorry

but then again, Bryant who has accomplished nothing in his career, according to you is better then Salazar, which has got to be by far the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Wake me if he ever even makes the big leagues then we'll talk.

Power is not easy to come by, no.
The NL Leaders were at 36 HRs last year, then the next closest was at 30. If you have a guy who has 45+ HR potential, i'd say that's an elite prospect.

Sure, you keep bringing up MLB experience, but Salazar has 70 innings under his belt. He is no sure thing, and is even struggling so far this year. He's not exactly a proven MLB pitcher.

[mmorg]

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What a crock of ****, you should probably stop lying before i continue to prove you know absolultey nothing.

1 good year?
2007: 14 starts 1.96 ERA 0.995 WHIP (17)
2012: 22 starts 2.36 ERA 1.1 WHIP
2013: 21 starts 2.71 ERA 1.00 WHIP (Minors)

Funny how those are also his 3 years with the most starts eh?

looks like more then 1 good year, and it looks like as usual, your caught talking out your ***

I thought we stopped caring about ERA and WHIP around 1995?

[Kipnis22]

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Power is not easy to come by, no.
The NL Leaders were at 36 HRs last year, then the next closest was at 30. If you have a guy who has 45+ HR potential, i'd say that's an elite prospect.

Sure, you keep bringing up MLB experience, but Salazar has 70 innings under his belt. He is no sure thing, and is even struggling so far this year. He's not exactly a proven MLB pitcher.

theres also a massive diffrence between accomplishing it and having the potential to do it. Stanton has 80 HR potential, but he's never going to hit it. and 70 IP is better then nothing, you can at least blame Salazars slow start on no winterball and very limited ST.

i mean Salazar has 250 K potential, but you tell us he's not an elite spec. your arguments are just laughable.

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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theres also a massive diffrence between accomplishing it and having the potential to do it. Stanton has 80 HR potential, but he's never going to hit it. and 70 IP is better then nothing, you can at least blame Salazars slow start on no winterball and very limited ST.

When a guy like Bryant has 40 homer potential, you can't say he is just a "good hitting prospect".

And 70 innings is not even close to enough to determine he is a safe bet. Bryant isn't a sure thing either, we're talking about ceilings.

[1andonly]

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My post got lost in all this arguing but what do you guys think is a realistic and fair expectation to get Heyward (the Braves have a 20 year old 72 overall A potential CF also)/Stanton? Before you say they wouldn't move these guys and that is unrealistic, that is only because it is not realistic for a team to pay an absurd amount for them. Given the right value they can be traded. My farm system is behind loaded and I need to get rid of people. Any ideas?

I know yall are busy arguing but do you have any ideas?

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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I know yall are busy arguing but do you have any ideas?

Maybe Jace Peterson (to play second) and Casey Kelly? Just spitballin, tell me if that's a **** offer. It depends on how well Heyward is doing in your franchise.