MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[hampshirestags]

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I came up with this trade because I follow the Cubs and Red Sox. I wish I had more time to follow every teams farm system but I have 3 daughters under the age of 5 and life is very busy.

Owens probably would not get traded unless it was a blockbuster. Or perhaps I am also over valuing Owens.

Can anyone think of a few other teams that are in need of a bat like Soler that has pitching to give up?

I was thinking the O's could use him to replace Cruz has a right handed power bat in 2015 but the closest match I could think of was Harvey and I dont think Baltimore would do it.

I am hoping to get a potential number 2 starter back for Soler.

Thanks for the help. This thread is always fun to watch and learn from.

I did a trade a few weeks back with the O's and Cubs for Soler. O's gave E. Rodriquez+M. Wright+ Bidwell (?) I forget the 3rd piece but if you look a few weeks back in the thread you can grab the chatter (search function helps immensely). I want to say it was either Kmac or WTNY that I was working with.

[hampshirestags]

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Is Reyes really the only one? I mean thats 3 A's, some proven Major league talent, and a couple mid and high B's. Not to mention guys like Murphy and Parnell that I still have.

I didn't even list some of the other A potential prospects I have because they are the kind that have low overalls and may not make this bigs into the early 2020's. I dont know what kind of value those players hold in people's mind

You have a good list, there is no debating that. That issue is, how many real players do you have? Every guy/person (are we all guys here?) is going to have different opinions, just try to go with the majority rule.

I think you have 2.5 players and the rest are hope/dream. For Tulo/Stanton you are literally going to have to sell the farm. Price will come only the slightest bit cheaper. However, don't forget your bidding competition. That's what the others are showing. Why trade with the Mets when other have better farms/prospects to deal from. Superstars are very expensive, you are going to have to give until it hurts...then give some more...to be fair.

[Zim]

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I did a trade a few weeks back with the O's and Cubs for Soler. O's gave E. Rodriquez+M. Wright+ Bidwell (?) I forget the 3rd piece but if you look a few weeks back in the thread you can grab the chatter (search function helps immensely). I want to say it was either Kmac or WTNY that I was working with.

I found it, thanks for pointing it out. I have always had a hard time finding things with the search thing so I just tend to read 10-15 pages of the thread at a time going backwards and try and remember where I left off when I have a chance to pick it back up.

That looks like a decent trade and it looks like someone who knows the cubs was ok with the value so I may go with that one if I dont think of anything better before Wada dominates the Rockies. It could totally happen. Probably. Maybe.

Then again maybe just keep Soler for another half a season and if he puts up big numbers try and get a more established arm/arms at the 2015 deadline.

Thanks for all the responses.

[KnickNation17]

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You have a good list, there is no debating that. That issue is, how many real players do you have? Every guy/person (are we all guys here?) is going to have different opinions, just try to go with the majority rule.

I think you have 2.5 players and the rest are hope/dream. For Tulo/Stanton you are literally going to have to sell the farm. Price will come only the slightest bit cheaper. However, don't forget your bidding competition. That's what the others are showing. Why trade with the Mets when other have better farms/prospects to deal from. Superstars are very expensive, you are going to have to give until it hurts...then give some more...to be fair.

To be clear I wasn't disagreeing with what AC was saying I just wanted to hear a little more into why Reyes was the only person I could get.

I agree its a little harder to project draft picks and SECA created players however from what I've seen picks usually tend to reach their potential. In real life tho aren't most of prospects that are traded for big name players hopes/dreams ? I feel like they are all in the same boat as the SECA players I have.. they are all hopes/dreams since no one really knows how it will turn out. If anything I would think trading the SECA players make it more realistic because they weren't created by anyone and no one truly knows how they will turn out even tho its a pretty safe bet they will be good in a matter of time. I think thats very similar to real life and reflects what most superstar trades consist of.

As for the respective teams picking the best package, I can see where there may be an issue in real life situation but I'm really just looking for something fair and semi realistic. It's hard to place bidding competition into the game since there is really only one GM.. Me.

[kmoser]

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To be clear I wasn't disagreeing with what AC was saying I just wanted to hear a little more into why Reyes was the only person I could get.



I agree its a little harder to project draft picks and SECA created players however from what I've seen picks usually tend to reach their potential. In real life tho aren't most of prospects that are traded for big name players hopes/dreams ? I feel like they are all in the same boat as the SECA players I have.. they are all hopes/dreams since no one really knows how it will turn out. If anything I would think trading the SECA players make it more realistic because they weren't created by anyone and no one truly knows how they will turn out even tho its a pretty safe bet they will be good in a matter of time. I think thats very similar to real life and reflects what most superstar trades consist of.



As for the respective teams picking the best package, I can see where there may be an issue in real life situation but I'm really just looking for something fair and semi realistic. It's hard to place bidding competition into the game since there is really only one GM.. Me.

With those prospects you can potentially land a superstar. It will take quite a few of those prospects though.

[hampshirestags]

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I found it, thanks for pointing it out. I have always had a hard time finding things with the search thing so I just tend to read 10-15 pages of the thread at a time going backwards and try and remember where I left off when I have a chance to pick it back up.

That looks like a decent trade and it looks like someone who knows the cubs was ok with the value so I may go with that one if I dont think of anything better before Wada dominates the Rockies. It could totally happen. Probably. Maybe.

You did a Palin there and didn't even realize it. Wada + dominate = Nippon Japanese league :-)

The value is good for Soler. He doesn't hit much yet, but when he does...boom!

[KnickNation17]

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With those prospects you can potentially land a superstar. It will take quite a few of those prospects though.

How many we talking? 4..5..6.. & how many of those are gonna have to be A's

Lets say we are focusing in on Tulo, Stanton, or Cargo

[kmoser]

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How many we talking? 4..5..6.. & how many of those are gonna have to be A's



Lets say we are focusing in on Tulo, Stanton, or Cargo

Around 5 for these guys. 3 A potentials players at least need to be in the deal.

[AC]

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OP can't deal the drafted prospects until a year after they're drafted, and even then its a bit unrealistic, so yeah, only Reyes.

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[kmoser]

MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

OP can't deal the drafted prospects until a year after they're drafted, and even then its a bit unrealistic, so yeah, only Reyes.

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I think Reyes or Price would be the most "realistic". I don't see why the others, maybe with the exception of Stanton, couldn't be dealt unless their teams are contending. They were Just suggestions anyway, not set in stone deals

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Anthony Ranaudo.

A-.

My word.

Next roster version will have this remedied. Ranuado is losing his A.

I did a trade a few weeks back with the O's and Cubs for Soler. O's gave E. Rodriquez+M. Wright+ Bidwell (?) I forget the 3rd piece but if you look a few weeks back in the thread you can grab the chatter (search function helps immensely). I want to say it was either Kmac or WTNY that I was working with.

Definitely not me. Because I see zero chance the Cubs do this deal. 3 fairly low ceiling arms are not going to do it. They'd do Hunter Harvey or Gausman or nothing at all with Baltimore for Soler.

[hampshirestags]

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To be clear I wasn't disagreeing with what AC was saying I just wanted to hear a little more into why Reyes was the only person I could get.

I agree its a little harder to project draft picks and SECA created players however from what I've seen picks usually tend to reach their potential. In real life tho aren't most of prospects that are traded for big name players hopes/dreams ? I feel like they are all in the same boat as the SECA players I have.. they are all hopes/dreams since no one really knows how it will turn out. If anything I would think trading the SECA players make it more realistic because they weren't created by anyone and no one truly knows how they will turn out even tho its a pretty safe bet they will be good in a matter of time. I think thats very similar to real life and reflects what most superstar trades consist of.

As for the respective teams picking the best package, I can see where there may be an issue in real life situation but I'm really just looking for something fair and semi realistic. It's hard to place bidding competition into the game since there is really only one GM.. Me.

And this is the exact reason why it is great to have multiple voices in the room. I like disagreeing with AC as much as possible, I have no issues with that.

In my opinion, trades of prospects for aging veterans is typically what happens (the Lee/Beltre of the league). The guys listed are all under 30 and have 6+ years of 'close to prime' left. Now we're talking CC and ARod, and then some, types of deals.

I would love for price/tulo to get dealt this week as it would give us all framework but the reason they haven't is because the cost is sky high and no GM wants to screw over the club for 5 years just for 1 player...but somebody will.

Zach+Noah+Brown+ 2 elite prospects is a good starting point for any of the 3 guys we discussed (in my opinion). Reading back, you also asked about Cargo. He is the cheapest of the 4 and shouldn't require Zach.

[KnickNation17]

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OP can't deal the drafted prospects until a year after they're drafted, and even then its a bit unrealistic, so yeah, only Reyes.

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OP? & The draft is coming up therefore wouldn't they be edible to traded once that date passes?

& if the Rockies and Marlins are struggling and those 3 players are always in the rumors and I'm sending a pretty decent package in terms of being fair maybe not realistic but fair why wouldn't it be a possibility?

[AC]

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OP? & The draft is coming up therefore wouldn't they be edible to traded once that date passes?

& if the Rockies and Marlins are struggling and those 3 players are always in the rumors and I'm sending a pretty decent package in terms of being fair maybe not realistic but fair why wouldn't it be a possibility?

Original poster. Once it's passed, it's legal, but unrealistic imo. Who wants to go to an org that trades it's most valued assets a year after they get them?

[KnickNation17]

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And this is the exact reason why it is great to have multiple voices in the room. I like disagreeing with AC as much as possible, I have no issues with that.

In my opinion, trades of prospects for aging veterans is typically what happens (the Lee/Beltre of the league). The guys listed are all under 30 and have 6+ years of 'close to prime' left. Now we're talking CC and ARod, and then some, types of deals.

I would love for price/tulo to get dealt this week as it would give us all framework but the reason they haven't is because the cost is sky high and no GM wants to screw over the club for 5 years just for 1 player...but somebody will.

Zach+Noah+Brown+ 2 elite prospects is a good starting point for any of the 3 guys we discussed (in my opinion). Reading back, you also asked about Cargo. He is the cheapest of the 4 and shouldn't require Zach.

Your right about the multiple voices thing & I hear what you mean regarding the structure of trades..that makes sense. However what exactly are teams like the Marlins and Rockies looking for with those type of guys? All high level prospects or a mix of prospects and ML talent? I would think you would want to get something thats borderline proven because of the fact that prospects are mysteries.

I purposely left Zach out because I wanted to keep him. However I would give him up in a deal for Stanton. I was hoping I could work something out for Tulo without giving up Wheeler. Idk if thats possible but I thought that amount of prospects I might be able to get it done. I'm really skeptical on Tulo in game because he has a 154million left on his deal at this point & is 29 and knowing the wacky way in which player's progress and decrease in this game I wonder how much time he has before he's decreasing.