MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[redsox4evur]

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Rays franchise

I was looking to trade for Scott Van Slyke. I need some pop in the OF and 1B position vs left handed pitchers and Van Slyke seems a reasonable get for me. Any idea who I should give up for him?

You give up David De Jesus according to the trade value sheet they are both Mid C's. Maybe Sean Rodriguez as well even though he is given a High C.

[AC]

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You give up David De Jesus according to the trade value sheet they are both Mid C's. Maybe Sean Rodriguez as well even though he is given a High C.

This makes no sense for the Dodgers though. They have both outfield depth as well is shortstop depth. No need for either.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Rays franchise

I was looking to trade for Scott Van Slyke. I need some pop in the OF and 1B position vs left handed pitchers and Van Slyke seems a reasonable get for me. Any idea who I should give up for him?

Give them any 2 of: C.J. Riefenhauser, Enny Romero, Alex Colome

[whodeycin85]

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Just offered the White sox...Addy Russell (85 A), CJ Edwards(75 A), and Kevonte Mitchell(68 B) for Chris sale....might add Vogelbach(71 B) as well


Thoughts?

[rjackson]

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I think that it would take Russell and Bryant just to open discussions on Sale.

[AC]

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I think that it would take Russell and Bryant just to open discussions on Sale.

That seems like something Theo would be insulted by / reply "LOL" to

[rjackson]

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I know, right!

[AC]

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If the Cubs trade Sale, you're not gonna find a better conversation opener than one of those two

[rjackson]

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Look at it from the White Sox perspective--then answer what it would take to pry Sale from you. I just don't see a match there. It is like the Marlins wanting Correa and Springer for Stanton. I am thinking realism, not fairness.

[whodeycin85]

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That's why I stated with Russell.. Considering in 2013 the starting prospect was Archie Bradley from Az... Russell holds much more value..plus Edwards who many think is a ceiling #2.... And born to be Dh Vogelbach is a solid realistic offer...

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[rjackson]

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I love Russell but 3B is a much more pressing need so I'd think you'd have to look at Bryant or Baez. Vogelbach, I personally like but he doesn't have that much value. Edwards, meh, fine as an add-in. Both teams need SP. Hahn has called Sale "untouchable" so you really need to bring it if you want to keep it realistic. If you just want it to be fair, I'd value Sale a bit lower and would be okay with your deal if you subbed Vogelbach out for a LHH OF, SP, or good RP.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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No way Sale is dealt to the Cubs. It would be a franchise-destroying trade for the White Sox. You really have to understand the psychology of Sox fans--they are always the groomsman, but never the groom in Chicago. They would track Rick Hahn down to his house and do bad things to him if he dealt Sale to the Cubs. Not realistic (although from a pure value and fit standpoint, it makes all the sense in the world).

[Ghost Of The Year]

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No way Sale is dealt to the Cubs. It would be a franchise-destroying trade for the White Sox. You really have to understand the psychology of Sox fans--they are always the groomsman, but never the groom in Chicago. They would track Rick Hahn down to his house and do bad things to him if he dealt Sale to the Cubs. Not realistic (although from a pure value and fit standpoint, it makes all the sense in the world).

A) Babe Ruth to NY via Red Sox was a REAL franchise-destroying trade.
Sale is no Bambino.
B) March '92, Sammy Sosa traded to Cubs, Pale Hose wins WS 13 years later (and still before a Cub WS winner).
Sale is no Slammin' Sammy.
C) Ozzie Guillen changed the psycholgy of Sox fans. For Sale to be dealt to the Cubs all that is needed is a man with vision and the right spin to sale (pun intended) to ChiSox fans; i.e., it's better to be a groomsman with many options than a groom with only one.
Whodey, you are that groomsman with a vision. Do it!
Cubs, you are Al Bundy, a groom married to losing.

[rjackson]

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A) Babe Ruth was a pitcher, albeit a good one but not the Bambino when he was traded. Such an old comp that it isn't relevant. The blacksox happened, the ball was changed, Babe was changed to a hitter, and then the Bambino saved baseball. But yeah, the Red Sox did real good with that one, right? What was the name of the Broadway show?
B) Sosa hit .210 with 10 HRs and was traded for George Bell. Even Sammy wasn't Slammin' Sammy at that time!
C) Ozzie Guillen made headlines but I don't see how he changed the psychology of anyone other than some Cuban-Americans.

If I recall correctly, Wait is a Chicago native. I'd put some weight into his argument. I was a ChiSox fan for a long time. I can still tell you the '92 line-up off the top of my head. You want Sale, he ain't for sale.

[CameRoN0407]

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lol
My only real point is Ozzie changed the mindset of the psychologically frail mindset of the White Sox fan from the need to be popular to the need to be a winner.
My reference to Sosa is, while he was no HoF'er in a White Sox jersey, that didn't kill the Sox after the numbers he put up '98-'99.
Also irrelevant as it may be, Ruth was the full time leftfielder (when he wasn't pitching) for Boston when traded. He hit a record 29 hr's in the deadball 1919 season and the Red Sox were truly a franchise destroyed post-Ruth.
You do what you have to to make your team better, be damned what an average fan thinks. If you run your team by what fans want, you will most assuredly become that which you don't want. Namely, a failed & destroyed franchise. I don't need to live in the Windy City to know that

Ya, trading a 25 y/o T5 pitcher, that is locked up thru virtually the 2019 season, and will only make a AAV of about $11mm will make your team better. Don't mess up a good thing while you have it.