I really, really want to like this game.

[raneman85]

Re: I really, really want to like this game.

All of this is why I play DD. it's amazing the difference in game play provided by those +s


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Are you speaking of DD as in extra innings with the cards? Because all I've seen is glitch play that I never see in franchise. First baseman not covering bags, First baseman unassisted putouts not counting as outs but count as outs in the box score thus giving 4 out innings. I've never seen any of this in Franchise or Season. I really want to like this mode. I take it we can't use sliders in Diamond Dynasty?

[KBLover]

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This is what I've been saying from the beginning, albeit in a more derogatory fashion. I've played on both levels now and you simply don't see these things on difficulties less than hall of fame. They generally only happen on HOF or higher and that's what leads me to believe there's something not right with the higher difficulties.

Except I play on Hall of Fame pitching and auto fielding so I should be seeing this stuff as much as everyone else when I'm on the mound.

I play on the least user input interfaces and auto fielding, so if the AI wanted to "screw me over" it has tons of chances to do so with nothing I can do about it. Don't see these things just happening in close games to "make me lose".

[DJ]

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Took me a while to get into this year's game, but I've settled in and am really enjoying it (even with a few bugs that drive me nuts, but that's videogames) and I think it's the best game in the MLB The Show series.

One thing I did to freshen up my experience with the game was change how I play the game. I was using Quick Counts but went back to full games and that's definitely helped me at the plate. Speaking of, I'm using directional hitting, but with Analog input. I'm using Analog for pitching and throwing, as well as manual fielding, whereas in the past I was a Classic/Button Throw/Auto Field setup. So, nothing drastic, just a slightly different way to play.

[Jr.]

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I have got to what I thought was the midway point during the game with slider all the way to the right.... Then at the start if the at bat moved it to 0. Then next innings it came up as veteran again not veteran ++. I checked my sliders and the sensitivity was at zero....

I wonder if altering the slider during the game resets the difficulty to the level it was at when the game started?

Maybe try finishing a game when your level gets where you want it, then 0 out the slider before starting a new game.

[thaSLAB]

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Are you speaking of DD as in extra innings with the cards? Because all I've seen is glitch play that I never see in franchise. First baseman not covering bags, First baseman unassisted putouts not counting as outs but count as outs in the box score thus giving 4 out innings. I've never seen any of this in Franchise or Season. I really want to like this mode. I take it we can't use sliders in Diamond Dynasty?

He's talking about DD, as in Dynamic Difficulty, in this case.


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[dubplate]

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It's funny how different people's games play so differently. I would say out of the 100ish games I've played, at least 50% of my hits come on "good" timing.

Isn't it, though?

[saintjimbo1885]

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I think it's unfair to suggest that those commenting on legitimate issues they see in the game are simply not good enough to play at HoF or above.


I have always played the show on HoF and above but for me this years game is off when playing at these levels. I actually had a pretty good record on HoF this year but the games stopped being enjoyable and/or challenging as too many situations seemed forced by CPU mistakes and errors - I use auto fielding and auto throwing.


Changing tack, when I play any sports game, if I increase the difficulty, I expect/hope the CPU to play smarter and not rely on tricks and gimmicks to level the playing field or tilt it in their advantage. A good example of this is PYS where increasing the difficulty actually results in the CPU pitching better, being more patient at the plate and looking for pitches etc. Unfortunately, I don't see that in The Show this year.


Oh and I don't actually think there is any kind of comeback code per se but I do think at higher levels the CPU forces you into situations through unrealistic plays. It then becomes a game of chess, where you have to decide what the right move is to get out of the jam!! It could be a mound visit, change of pitcher to get the right match up, walking a batter etc.

I would be interested to know why the devs decided to remove the CPU comeback option from the game after MLB 08 though!!

[thaSLAB]

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I think it's unfair to suggest that those commenting on legitimate issues they see in the game are simply not good enough to play at HoF or above.


I have always played the show on HoF and above but for me this years game is off when playing at these levels. I actually had a pretty good record on HoF this year but the games stopped being enjoyable and/or challenging as too many situations seemed forced by CPU mistakes and errors - I use auto fielding and auto throwing.


Changing tack, when I play any sports game, if I increase the difficulty, I expect/hope the CPU to play smarter and not rely on tricks and gimmicks to level the playing field or tilt it in their advantage. A good example of this is PYS where increasing the difficulty actually results in the CPU pitching better, being more patient at the plate and looking for pitches etc. Unfortunately, I don't see that in The Show this year.


Oh and I don't actually think there is any kind of comeback code per se but I do think at higher levels the CPU forces you into situations through unrealistic plays. It then becomes a game of chess, where you have to decide what the right move is to get out of the jam!! It could be a mound visit, change of pitcher to get the right match up, walking a batter etc.

I would be interested to know why the devs decided to remove the CPU comeback option from the game after MLB 08 though!!

Again, this points more to an auto fielding (and throwing, as you stated you use) issue, than difficulty level. Difficulty level in The Show works the same as in PYS, as you described above. It's the "smartness" of the CPU, not an event maker or modifier.

The feature in MLB 08 was more similar to dynamic difficulty than a comeback code. It basically gave an AI boost in intelligence (like going up in difficulty), making it play smarter. It never gave the CPU a generated situational advantage.

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[Padgoi]

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So for the video I posted, I assume the arod error and the ensuing arod ole grounder is "just baseball" and could be attributed to me just not being good at the game? Makes sense..........

[Jr.]

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So for the video I posted, I assume the arod error and the ensuing arod ole grounder is "just baseball" and could be attributed to me just not being good at the game? Makes sense..........

The error is an error. Is there some code that makes it happen at a certain time? Who knows. It's certainly an inopportune time to make one, but there are probably hundreds of examples from the last few years of players making errors at inopportune times.

The "ole", as you describe it, is poor positioning. The ball was hit well and he's playing in on the cut for some reason. If he's back at his normal depth, he's got a much better chance of reacting and getting a glove on the ball. It doesn't mean he makes the play... maybe he doesn't. But he's got a better chance at it.

[Padgoi]

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The error is an error. Is there some code that makes it happen at a certain time? Who knows. It's certainly an inopportune time to make one, but there are probably hundreds of examples from the last few years of players making errors at inopportune times.

The "ole", as you describe it, is poor positioning. The ball was hit well and he's playing in on the cut for some reason. If he's back at his normal depth, he's got a much better chance of reacting and getting a glove on the ball. It doesn't mean he makes the play... maybe he doesn't. But he's got a better chance at it.

It should be noted that I did not adjust the Fielder positioning on that play and I lowered Fielding errors to 3.

[Jr.]

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It should be noted that I did not adjust the Fielder positioning on that play and I lowered Fielding errors to 3.

It probably stuck from the last hitter. I shift my defense around a lot, so I've seen it happen fairly frequently. I've gotten used to checking my defense after I shift it for a particular batter.

[countryboy]

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So for the video I posted, I assume the arod error and the ensuing arod ole grounder is "just baseball" and could be attributed to me just not being good at the game? Makes sense..........

Errors happen its part of the game. This one happened at an inopportune time. It sucks but that's all it was. So you lowered the error slider to 3, that just lessens the frequency not eliminate them.

On the grounder, you have ARod in? Ball hit equals less reaction time. You didn't adjust him that way, ok, but the game flashes your defensive positioning prior to each batter, you should've checked and made adjustments accordingly.

Let me ask you this, if the shoe was on the other foot and this happened to the CPU, would you still consider it an issue or chalk it up to bad break for them?

[SECElit3]

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Are you speaking of DD as in extra innings with the cards? Because all I've seen is glitch play that I never see in franchise. First baseman not covering bags, First baseman unassisted putouts not counting as outs but count as outs in the box score thus giving 4 out innings. I've never seen any of this in Franchise or Season. I really want to like this mode. I take it we can't use sliders in Diamond Dynasty?

Dynamic Difficulty. I apologize for the confusion.


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[saintjimbo1885]

Re: I really, really want to like this game.

Again, this points more to an auto fielding (and throwing, as you stated you use) issue, than difficulty level. Difficulty level in The Show works the same as in PYS, as you described above. It's the "smartness" of the CPU, not an event maker or modifier.

The feature in MLB 08 was more similar to dynamic difficulty than a comeback code. It basically gave an AI boost in intelligence (like going up in difficulty), making it play smarter. It never gave the CPU a generated situational advantage.

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The problem I have is having played about 100 games on HoF I saw these kind of forced situations regularly!!

I've only played about 50 games on All-Star and although I see errors and mistakes they do not appear forced and there is a lack of the glitch errors that were prevalent on the higher level.

This is the first year in The Show that I have felt the CPU isn't playing smarter on the higher difficulty. Yes, it throws more pitches out of the zone but for me it relies on generating mistakes to even things up!!

It kind of reminds me of playing versions of NHL on Superstar where the CPU would often score with cheese goals or your players suddenly seemed to be skating in quicksand when you were ahead!!

Of course we all see the game differently or it could be a combination of things from settings to difficulty that generates these things for some and not for others!!

Oh and for those interested here's a screenshot of the MLB 09 settings.... gave me an excuse to play a couple of games!!