MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Tmizzle]

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It is definitely out of the ordinary. I think you meant to say it's possible or fathomable for this to occur. 19 year olds playing in MLB is anything but ordinary these days. Go back 75 years and it was a bit more common.

It was definitely more common back in the day, I can agree with that. I let the trade go through as Rodgers is now in their starting lineup.

[Tmizzle]

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Speaking of the Padres "glut" of catchers, what would you guys say Hedges value is right now?

He can't hit at all really. As a prospect he has some value.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Speaking of the Padres "glut" of catchers, what would you guys say Hedges value is right now?

Any stats? I'd say mid B with no other info to go on.

[k_mac]

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Any stats? I'd say mid B with no other info to go on.

Haven't played anything. Purely theoretical, he'll probably be in the minors to start the year.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Haven't played anything. Purely theoretical, he'll probably be in the minors to start the year.

Then low B/mid B area depending on how much you value catcher defense.

[holden57]

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Would Chris Young have any value approaching the deadline in 2016? He's been stuck in the bullpen for Kansas City all year.

Wondering about Jason Vargas in the off season as well since he'll be back from TJS. Would he be worth anything at all?

Thanks!

[CBoller1331]

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Would Chris Young have any value approaching the deadline in 2016? He's been stuck in the bullpen for Kansas City all year.

Wondering about Jason Vargas in the off season as well since he'll be back from TJS. Would he be worth anything at all?

Thanks!

Chris Young could get a Low to Mid C, who is probably more of a non prospect, if he's pitching well.

I don't think Vargas would be worth anything...I can't think of any instances in which a player was traded the year after coming off TJ

[WildPotato]

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Year 2 with the Red Sox I would like to package Swihart with Eduardo Rodriguez for an upgrade in the rotation.

I was thinking Vince Velasquez from the Phillies could be a solid option. Both pitchers are 24 with plenty of team control and they get an MLB ready catcher with potential, and I view Velasquez as a good enough upgrade from Rodriguez.

Eduardo Rodriguez: 80.1 ip, 3.61 era, 1.26 whip 63 so.
Blake Swihart: 158 ab, .240 avg, 4 hr, 19 rbi.

Vince Velasquez: 81.2 ip, 3.31 era, 1.24 whip, 100 so.

I am 41-22, Phillies are 28-36 bottom of the division.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Year 2 with the Red Sox I would like to package Swihart with Eduardo Rodriguez for an upgrade in the rotation.

I was thinking Vince Velasquez from the Phillies could be a solid option. Both pitchers are 24 with plenty of team control and they get an MLB ready catcher with potential, and I view Velasquez as a good enough upgrade from Rodriguez.

Eduardo Rodriguez: 80.1 ip, 3.61 era, 1.26 whip 63 so.
Blake Swihart: 158 ab, .240 avg, 4 hr, 19 rbi.

Vince Velasquez: 81.2 ip, 3.31 era, 1.24 whip, 100 so.

I am 41-22, Phillies are 28-36 bottom of the division.

Why would the Phillies trade you a young, controllable SP to get another young, controllable SP? Really doesn't make sense from a fit standpoint. I get that you'd rather have Velasquez, but so would everyone else. Also, consider that Swihart doesn't have good stats and that Red Sox fans across the country now seem to think he sucks.

[WildPotato]

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Why would the Phillies trade you a young, controllable SP to get another young, controllable SP? Really doesn't make sense from a fit standpoint. I get that you'd rather have Velasquez, but so would everyone else. Also, consider that Swihart doesn't have good stats and that Red Sox fans across the country now seem to think he sucks.

I'm not a Red Sox fan so I think Swihart still has potential, I just play better with Christian Vazquez. A young catcher hitting .240 in the third month of the season isn't the end of the world. Plus the ratings and potential the game gives him is his ultimate ceiling. There isn't really a question he will reach an 84 overall at least. Eduardo isn't much of a downgrade and its essential trading one young starter for two young starters. Seems like a good idea for a rebuilding team.

I'm suggesting it because If I was the Phillies I'd pull the trigger. That's the main criteria I look at when I offer trades.

Both Velasquez and Rodriguez have the same ceiling in game. Vince has 84 to Eduardo's 83 potential. Vince just seems to perform a bit better with his ratings.

I'm looking for fair, not necessarily ultra-realistic. I view my franchise as a universe separate from real life performances and issues, because if they are bad in game they are not worth what they are in real life.

If I am way off-base here, can you give me other suggestions for that package?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I'm not a Red Sox fan so I think Swihart still has potential, I just play better with Christian Vazquez. A young catcher hitting .240 in the third month of the season isn't the end of the world. Plus the ratings and potential the game gives him is his ultimate ceiling. There isn't really a question he will reach an 84 overall at least. Eduardo isn't much of a downgrade and its essential trading one young starter for two young starters. Seems like a good idea for a rebuilding team.

I'm suggesting it because If I was the Phillies I'd pull the trigger. That's the main criteria I look at when I offer trades.

Both Velasquez and Rodriguez have the same ceiling in game. Vince has 84 to Eduardo's 83 potential. Vince just seems to perform a bit better with his ratings.

I'm looking for fair, not necessarily ultra-realistic. I view my franchise as a universe separate from real life performances and issues, because if they are bad in game they are not worth what they are in real life.

If I am way off-base here, can you give me other suggestions for that package?

Phillies also just got Alfaro who was a pretty highly touted catching prospect in his own rights. I'm not sure how to make the deal work quite right. IMO Velasquez> E-Rod and there's not a need for Swihart in Philly.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I'm not a Red Sox fan so I think Swihart still has potential, I just play better with Christian Vazquez. A young catcher hitting .240 in the third month of the season isn't the end of the world. Plus the ratings and potential the game gives him is his ultimate ceiling. There isn't really a question he will reach an 84 overall at least. Eduardo isn't much of a downgrade and its essential trading one young starter for two young starters. Seems like a good idea for a rebuilding team.

I'm suggesting it because If I was the Phillies I'd pull the trigger. That's the main criteria I look at when I offer trades.

Both Velasquez and Rodriguez have the same ceiling in game. Vince has 84 to Eduardo's 83 potential. Vince just seems to perform a bit better with his ratings.

I'm looking for fair, not necessarily ultra-realistic. I view my franchise as a universe separate from real life performances and issues, because if they are bad in game they are not worth what they are in real life.

If I am way off-base here, can you give me other suggestions for that package?

I would say it just strikes me as odd to do a SP for SP deal when they're both controllable and young. Trades like that usually don't happen.

I'd suggest to go younger (someone like Espinoza who has all 6 years of team control + another piece) or to offer up different positions. A Mookie Betts for Velasquez+ for example makes more sense. Maybe not Mookie himself, but someone of his ilk/potential. I'm also high on Velasquez as in my roster and with pitch edits he's an 89 OVR, so I bumped him to 90 POT.

[TheKT]

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Okay, at the trade deadline, Mets are 1.5 GB of the Nats for the lead in the East and lead the Wildcard by 1 game. Would they trade Wheeler, Conforto, and Granderson for Braun and one of Jeffress or Smith?

Wheeler (B pot) is doing fairly well in AAA (6-4, 3.54 ERA, 1.27 Whip)
Conforto (B pot) is having a good not great season on the big club (.267 BA, .733 OPS, 9 HR)
Granderson (D pot) looks to be a bench player at this point (.223 BA, .537 OPS, 3 HR)

Braun (A pot) is an All-Star this year (.312 BA, .968 OPS, 26 HR)
Jeffress (B pot) is the Setup man ( 4-1, 2.31 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, 1 SV)
Smith (B pot) is their closer (1-1, 1.24 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, 19 SV)

Seems like a good deal for both sides at this point, Mets get one of the best hitters in the league this year and a good bullpen arm for their WS run and shed themselves of the Grandymans contract, and the Brew Crew get 2 young guys to help their rebuild. What do you guys think?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Okay, at the trade deadline, Mets are 1.5 GB of the Nats for the lead in the East and lead the Wildcard by 1 game. Would they trade Wheeler, Conforto, and Granderson for Braun and one of Jeffress or Smith?

Wheeler (B pot) is doing fairly well in AAA (6-4, 3.54 ERA, 1.27 Whip)
Conforto (B pot) is having a good not great season on the big club (.267 BA, .733 OPS, 9 HR)
Grandson (D pot) looks to be a bench player at this point (.223 BA, .537 OPS, 3 HR)

Braun (A pot) is an All-Star this year (.312 BA, .968 OPS, 26 HR)
Jeffress (B pot) is the Setup man ( 4-1, 2.31 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, 1 SV)
Smith (B pot) is their closer (1-1, 1.24 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, 19 SV)

Seems like a good deal for both sides at this point, Mets get one of the best hitters in the league this year and a good bullpen arm for their WS run and shed themselves of the Grandymans contract, and the Brew Crew get 2 young guys to help their rebuild. What do you guys think?

It would be better without the corpse of Curtis Granderson in the deal.

[TheKT]

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It would be better without the corpse of Curtis Granderson in the deal.

Well, it was the only way to get the money to work out in the game.