MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[kenp86]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Can Nelson Cruz, who's batting around .320 and has 10 HRs and 30 RBIs at the draft, get Brady Aiken from Cleveland who needs a RF and some power in their lineup? They're only .5 back of my tigers

[redsox4evur]

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Clayton makes 30 a year. Chris archer will make that over the next 5 years.

Clayton Kershaw is the best player in baseball...nuff said.


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[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Clayton makes 30 a year. Chris archer will make that over the next 5 years.

But you have to factor in return on investment. It's not just about finding the name brand pitcher with the lowest contract. Kershaw is making more than Archer, but if you use any sort of rational $$/WAR metric, Kershaw is more than worth that extra $$$. In fact, this year Kershaw, even while making $30 million, will put up something ridiculous like $55 million in surplus value. Put this another way, you're getting enough value from Kershaw to darn near pay him, Ryan Howard, and Albert Pujols combined.

[grushcow]

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I want to add a middle order bat to the Pirates mid-season. So obviously some factors need to work themselves out. Ideally I'd kick Kang over to SS and grab a power hitting 3B. I'm set in the OF, with Cutch, Marte and Polanco. Josh Bell is my 1B of the future. Kang and Harrison are likely starters at two of 3B, SS or 2B.

The guys I'm looking at is first off Joey Gallo. He'd be the most expensive target...but he'd be a big time middle order bat on a cheap contract. I'd like to move Meadows...but I know Texas already has a logjam at OF, MLB and MiLB level. Could a trade center around Taillon work? Rangers have lots of issues at catcher...maybe getting a catcher of the future in Reese McGuire would be useful? Gallo for Taillon, McGuire ++?

Other guys I'm looking at are Luis Valbuena and Brian Dozier. What type of a return would they take? Ideally I want to trade Meadows because he's blocked...but otherwise I can always just flip Meadows for a pitching prospect if I have to part with Taillon. Outside of Glasnow and Bell, I'd consider the rest of my minor leaguers available. And guys like Mercer, Jaso and Morse.

[MJDrocks]

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Can Nelson Cruz, who's batting around .320 and has 10 HRs and 30 RBIs at the draft, get Brady Aiken from Cleveland who needs a RF and some power in their lineup? They're only .5 back of my tigers

You could probably get Aiken and maybe a C prospect as well. That kind of production could send them over the top in the division.

[k_mac]

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I want to add a middle order bat to the Pirates mid-season. So obviously some factors need to work themselves out. Ideally I'd kick Kang over to SS and grab a power hitting 3B. I'm set in the OF, with Cutch, Marte and Polanco. Josh Bell is my 1B of the future. Kang and Harrison are likely starters at two of 3B, SS or 2B.

The guys I'm looking at is first off Joey Gallo. He'd be the most expensive target...but he'd be a big time middle order bat on a cheap contract. I'd like to move Meadows...but I know Texas already has a logjam at OF, MLB and MiLB level. Could a trade center around Taillon work? Rangers have lots of issues at catcher...maybe getting a catcher of the future in Reese McGuire would be useful? Gallo for Taillon, McGuire ++?

Other guys I'm looking at are Luis Valbuena and Brian Dozier. What type of a return would they take? Ideally I want to trade Meadows because he's blocked...but otherwise I can always just flip Meadows for a pitching prospect if I have to part with Taillon. Outside of Glasnow and Bell, I'd consider the rest of my minor leaguers available. And guys like Mercer, Jaso and Morse.

Prospect for prospect swaps rarely ever happen, so I'll nix the realism of a Gallo for Taillon swap. It would probably take Glasnow anyways, but I don't like that deal.

You're right about Texas needing a catcher, but they need one right now, not one of the future. They had a catcher of the future and traded him for Cole Hamels. They're in that pressing need type of spot where if they were going to trade for a catcher, it would be a proven guy to plug into their lineup and get good production from (probably Lucroy, and wouldn't give Gallo for him).

I'm not saying Gallo is so valuable that he can't be moved, but its definitely unrealistic to trade him/for him. Beltre is off the books next year and 3B will be Gallo's. He's not "blocked" just getting valuable at bats in AAA so he doesn't strike out 40% of the time in the MLB and ruin himself.

Valbuena would cost far less than Meadows, and I'm honestly not sure what Dozier's value is as far as more or less than Meadows. Another option would be Yunel Escobar, if he's hitting well enough to warrant trading for. He wouldn't cost too much.

[AC]

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The Jays have done a couple prospect swaps over the last few years. Taylor for Wallace for Gose for Travis. Dunno why they don't happen more.

[grushcow]

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Prospect for prospect swaps rarely ever happen, so I'll nix the realism of a Gallo for Taillon swap. It would probably take Glasnow anyways, but I don't like that deal.

You're right about Texas needing a catcher, but they need one right now, not one of the future. They had a catcher of the future and traded him for Cole Hamels. They're in that pressing need type of spot where if they were going to trade for a catcher, it would be a proven guy to plug into their lineup and get good production from (probably Lucroy, and wouldn't give Gallo for him).

I'm not saying Gallo is so valuable that he can't be moved, but its definitely unrealistic to trade him/for him. Beltre is off the books next year and 3B will be Gallo's. He's not "blocked" just getting valuable at bats in AAA so he doesn't strike out 40% of the time in the MLB and ruin himself.

Valbuena would cost far less than Meadows, and I'm honestly not sure what Dozier's value is as far as more or less than Meadows. Another option would be Yunel Escobar, if he's hitting well enough to warrant trading for. He wouldn't cost too much.

Well Beltre is actually under contract for two more seasons past this one. But I agree, without Glasnow there's probably is no traction.

The more I think about it the more I like the Dozier fit. Could even convert him to 3B long-term. And still has speed that fits into my lineup. Just don't know what his value is. But Twins will likely be out of contention and want to replenish the farm system. Wonder if I could make a trade with a headliner like McGuire and lesser pieces...or Ramirez. Just really don't have a good gauge on his value, but he probably makes the most sense from a value standpoint.

But I really do like the idea of Gallo...
Pirates receive: Gallo, Matt Bush
Rangers receive: Glasnow, Jaso

[kenp86]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Can Felix get a Mateo from the Yanks? He's 10-5 with a 3.14 ERA

[bravesfan1984]

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Curious to see what you guys think Arodys Vizcaino could fetch in a deal. Considering how much value teams place on late inning relievers, especially controllable ones, I'm considering it in my franchise, assuming he is pitching just like he is in real life.

For me, it would have to be for a power bat. Thoughts?

[AC]

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I could actually see Taillon for Beltre

[k_mac]

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The Jays have done a couple prospect swaps over the last few years. Taylor for Wallace for Gose for Travis. Dunno why they don't happen more.

I mean, Wallace wasn't a prospect when that all happened and Gose had 600+ plate appearances in the majors when he was dealt for Travis. It was essentially a prospect swap but not really straight up. Sometimes they make sense, other times teams don't want to be "that team" that gave up a prospect who blossoms into a superstar for another prospect that could flame out. The risk might not always outweigh the reward.

But what I was getting at there was that top 10 prospects (like Gallo) don't normally get traded for other prospects.

[k_mac]

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Well Beltre is actually under contract for two more seasons past this one. But I agree, without Glasnow there's probably is no traction.

The more I think about it the more I like the Dozier fit. Could even convert him to 3B long-term. And still has speed that fits into my lineup. Just don't know what his value is. But Twins will likely be out of contention and want to replenish the farm system. Wonder if I could make a trade with a headliner like McGuire and lesser pieces...or Ramirez. Just really don't have a good gauge on his value, but he probably makes the most sense from a value standpoint.

But I really do like the idea of Gallo...
Pirates receive: Gallo, Matt Bush
Rangers receive: Glasnow, Jaso

Didn't realize Beltre signed an extension, that's my fault.

I know Mitch Moreland isn't a world-beater, and having Prince Fielder on the roster, would Texas really want Jaso?

If you're insisting on Gallo:
Joey Gallo + Michael Matuella for Tyler Glasnow + Ke’Bryan Hayes
Both teams give and get a young SP+3B

I could actually see Taillon for Beltre

I think this is a much better idea than trading for Gallo, and much more realistic.

[NoodlesReyes]

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Indians franchise with OSFM rosters.

Trying to gauge what would be a fair deal for one trade to get David Peralta (81 B) and Peter O'Brien (65 C)

and a seperate deal for Josh Harrison (80 B)

[k_mac]

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Can Felix get a Mateo from the Yanks? He's 10-5 with a 3.14 ERA

Can he, yes. Would he? Probably not. He could pull a player of that level if the peripherals are all fine.

I don't like the Yankees buying this year, it doesn't align with anything they've done over the last few years. They're trying to get younger, and trading Mateo + for Felix goes against all of that.

Indians franchise with OSFM rosters.

Trying to gauge what would be a fair deal for one trade to get David Peralta (81 B) and Peter O'Brien (65 C)

and a seperate deal for Josh Harrison (80 B)

Realistically I don't see the Diamondbacks selling. Lets assume you don't care about that.. I think to start they'd ask for one of Zimmer or Frazier for both Peralta and O'Brien. I think Peralta is legit, and he's got 4 years of team control left (3 arbitration).

How's he hitting? Same question with Harrison, stats would be very helpful.