MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Mattchu12]

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What kind of package would it take to land Joe Ross from the Washington Nationals? It's only mid-May, but I want to start planning out my approach to the Trade Deadline now.

The Nationals are 25-12 and 3.5 up in the NL East,

He's put up a 3-2 record, a 1.30 ERA, 2.54 FIP, 6.7 K/9, 1.5 BB/9 and 1.43 WAR over his first 48.1 innings.

He's the worst starter in their rotation somehow, and the Nationals have been in the bottom third of almost every offensive team ranking with center field, first base, second base, and catcher being their worst positions so far this season. I would be the Yankees trying to get him, and I'm open to moving whoever or eating however much to make it happen. Thoughts?

Something around Andrew Miller? It would take a lot and Miller is your most valuable piece

Your not getting Joe Ross. He's 22 and has a very bright future. Also with those stats he looks like hes having an incredible year. There not gonna take 35+ year-olds for a guy that will be a mainstay in their rotation for years to come.

Obviously if he keeps this up, he's not getting moved. I'm thinking if he gets up into the 3.00 ERA range he would be a lot more moveable if they're still having the issues they're having on offense given that three-fifths of their rotation is very locked up and they're obviously very much in it and he's the lesser of the five guys in the rotation at that to begin with.

If he does end up in that range, I was thinking something like Chapman/Miller + a paid down Ellsbury (he's having a great year for me) or Gardner (Revere is a black hole for them) + Gary Sanchez (Ramos has been awful) + something else while taking back a bad contract (Zimmerman has been awful) could make sense.

[k_mac]

MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Obviously if he keeps this up, he's not getting moved. I'm thinking if he gets up into the 3.00 ERA range he would be a lot more moveable if they're still having the issues they're having on offense given that three-fifths of their rotation is very locked up and they're obviously very much in it and he's the lesser of the five guys in the rotation at that to begin with.

If he does end up in that range, I was thinking something like Chapman/Miller + a paid down Ellsbury (he's having a great year for me) or Gardner (Revere is a black hole for them) + Gary Sanchez (Ramos has been awful) + something else while taking back a bad contract (Zimmerman has been awful) could make sense.

The Nationals are 3.5 up in the East and their "worst" starter has a 1.30 ERA? Damn.. I don't think it really matters how bad their offense is at this point, because they're not allowing runs. At 25-12, no team is going to look to trade a young guy like Joe Ross who is pitching that well. It's ~50 innings of work for the year and that tells me that it's way too early to be thinking blockbuster type of deal.

Even though they have Giolito waiting, I don't think they open up a spot for him by trading Ross, at least not in 2016. At the end of the year Gonzalez is more than likely walking because I'm sure he can get better than 12MM on the market.

I think your best bet it to just move on if you care about realism at all. Even if Ross regresses to somewhere around a 3.00 ERA I don't think he gets moved, at least for nothing the Yankees could offer. Sure, Miller or Chapman could be a start but you'd be better off sending them somewhere else for prospects. It sounds like their needs on on offense, not in the bullpen.

[Tmizzle]

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If Suzuki "just isn't cutting it" you aren't going to get anything for him. Its that simple. The Giants farm isn't strong so they probably want to keep Susac unless they get something that helps the big league club now.

That's what I was thinking. I may just DFA and try and sneak him through waivers and call up Juan Centeno. Also, I wasn't saying anything about trading Suzuki for Susac as all I stated was he is on the block so "It's as simple as that".

[Tmizzle]

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It does. I'm saying that's too much for Archer.

I think it's what it would take in real life. He's under contract cheaply for some years.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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It does. I'm saying that's too much for Archer.

That was my concern also, but it was offset somewhat by including Boxberger coming back in the deal also. I assume Boxberger is pitching well.

Whatever the outcome, it was refreshing to see someone cut to the chase and actually offer value for a change, lol.

What's the going rate for Rich Hill? Using Scott Kazmir last year as a comp, I'm thinking two high C's should be sufficient.

I'm the Jays at the deadline and the A's are 15GBs, so Rich Hill is definitely getting traded. Here's the deal I have:

Toronto
Rich Hill: 7-6, 2.94ERA, 1.41WHIP

Oakland
Jorge Flores - SS, 23yr, 67 OVR, C POT
Mitch Nay - 3B/RF, 21yr, 63 OVR, C POT
John Anderson - SP, 27yr, 57 OVR, C POT

I offered Richard Urena but he is only a C POT in my franchise, so they were having none of that.

Thanks.

I think giving them 2 players who are more highly regarded is the way to go here. None of those guys get my juices flowing if I'm Billy Beane. I mean a 27 year old that's 57 OVR is basically dead meat no matter what his POT is. Maybe Nay and someone a bit better than Flores. Maybe someone like Reid-Foley.

[Tmizzle]

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That was my concern also, but it was offset somewhat by including Boxberger coming back in the deal also. I assume Boxberger is pitching well.

Whatever the outcome, it was refreshing to see someone cut to the chase and actually offer value for a change, lol.



I think giving them 2 players who are more highly regarded is the way to go here. None of those guys get my juices flowing if I'm Billy Beane. I mean a 27 year old that's 57 OVR is basically dead meat no matter what his POT is. Maybe Nay and someone a bit better than Flores. Maybe someone like Reid-Foley.

I agree! Great value

[CBoller1331]

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I think it's what it would take in real life. He's under contract cheaply for some years.

Yes Archer is very valuable and cheep (just ask whoever it was that was arguing he was the best value in baseball about 25 pages back), but two of Profar/Gallo/Mazara + Brinson/Ortiz is still a really big haul that would likely get it done.

[Scott]

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So this trade happened, just wondering if i should let it stand...

Baltimore trades RF Dariel Alvarez (2 games, 1/8) to the Cubs for 3B Tommy La Stella (2/14, R, .143 avg in 8 games).

Doesn't really make sense. Gives the Cubs no backup IF & Orioles another IF behind Schoop with Kim being the only other OF.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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So this trade happened, just wondering if i should let it stand...

Baltimore trades RF Dariel Alvarez (2 games, 1/8) to the Cubs for 3B Tommy La Stella (2/14, R, .143 avg in 8 games).

Doesn't really make sense. Gives the Cubs no backup IF & Orioles another IF behind Schoop with Kim being the only other OF.

Baez is sort of the backup IF with Bryant/Russell/Zobrist/Rizzo starting. La Stella is the 6th INF/lefty bench bat. Cubs could always call up Candelario if they dealt La Stella. Coghlan might be available for some INF as well depending on what your roster looks like.

It would leave BAL pretty thin in the OF though.

An inconsequential enough trade that you can feel ok doing either.

[Tmizzle]

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So this trade happened, just wondering if i should let it stand...

Baltimore trades RF Dariel Alvarez (2 games, 1/8) to the Cubs for 3B Tommy La Stella (2/14, R, .143 avg in 8 games).

Doesn't really make sense. Gives the Cubs no backup IF & Orioles another IF behind Schoop with Kim being the only other OF.

I would let it go. Alvarez isn't even the majors n real life or my season as they have Reimold, Rickard and Kim to pair with Trumbo and Jones.

[boxers]

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see how it goes over.

I think giving them 2 players who are more highly regarded is the way to go here. None of those guys get my juices flowing if I'm Billy Beane. I mean a 27 year old that's 57 OVR is basically dead meat no matter what his POT is. Maybe Nay and someone a bit better than Flores. Maybe someone like Reid-Foley.

[Scott]

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Baez is sort of the backup IF with Bryant/Russell/Zobrist/Rizzo starting. La Stella is the 6th INF/lefty bench bat. Cubs could always call up Candelario if they dealt La Stella. Coghlan might be available for some INF as well depending on what your roster looks like.

It would leave BAL pretty thin in the OF though.

An inconsequential enough trade that you can feel ok doing either.

Okay, i'll just leave it then. I let the CPU do the roster moves, I just manage the lineups..

Baez is now back with the team anyways...

[CBoller1331]

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Do you guys think the Angels would consider trading Garrett Richards? Or at least if they were in the situation they are in my franchise:

27-34 thru first week of June (5.5 GB of the AL West leading Rangers in 4th place, 5 GB of 2nd WC spot)....Tyler Skaggs is lights out in AAA right now, and it would open up a spot in the rotation for him. A rotation of Skaggs, Heaney, Santiago, Tropeano, Shoemaker is still pretty darn good...plus he would probably get a pretty big haul which could help add to a pretty barren farm system, or infuse some needed young, MLB-ready talent into the lineup to support Trout. Plus with Wilson and Weaver coming off the payroll this winter they'd have room to go get an Andrew Cashner if they didn't want to go full rebuild.

I can give stats/teams interested in a starter (who have the farm to make a deal) if you guys think this is a possibility.

Edit: I would be waiting until mid/late July to see if the Angels were out of it before I make a deal

[WaitTilNextYear]

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They wouldn't trade him that early in the season.

[CBoller1331]

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They wouldn't trade him that early in the season.

I realize that. I was just wondering if it was a possibility if they are still out of it come late July.