MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Zim]

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What is Puigs value at this point? In my franchise on July 23 2016 he is hitting .209 with a -0.49 WAR and I know in real life the Dodgers are not super happy with him. I was thinking I could try and get him as a buy low and use Benintendi to headline a Gray deal. I was going to use him to get Teheran but all my Red Sox fan friends seem to think he is terrible even though I think he is a legit number 2 but I don't follow advanced stats and apparently those say he is way worse than he is.

[cubsgocontinental23]

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What is Puigs value at this point? In my franchise on July 23 2016 he is hitting .209 with a -0.49 WAR and I know in real life the Dodgers are not super happy with him. I was thinking I could try and get him as a buy low and use Benintendi to headline a Gray deal. I was going to use him to get Teheran but all my Red Sox fan friends seem to think he is terrible even though I think he is a legit number 2 but I don't follow advanced stats and apparently those say he is way worse than he is.

At this he is still a guy with value and i'm not sure they would trade him with his value at an all time low.

For the benintendi deal there are many that were put on here for gray, your Red Sox friends are right he is worth a lot more than Teheran. Just know that your giving away a potential all-star in your outfield.

[redsox4evur]

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At this he is still a guy with value and i'm not sure they would trade him with his value at an all time low.



For the benintendi deal there are many that were put on here for gray, your Red Sox friends are right he is worth a lot more than Teheran. Just know that your giving away a potential all-star in your outfield.

And your starting LF in 2017.


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[GamecocksLaw17]

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At this he is still a guy with value and i'm not sure they would trade him with his value at an all time low.

For the benintendi deal there are many that were put on here for gray, your Red Sox friends are right he is worth a lot more than Teheran. Just know that your giving away a potential all-star in your outfield.

I'm not sure the bold is accurate. Benintendi is a fantastic prospect, but Teheran is a true #2 (Thanks Eno Sarris) I do think Benintendi is a slight overpay, but theres no need to trade Teheran unless theres an overpay.

Basically all of this says Boston isn't nearly the match for Teheran as people think. Boston thinks their top-3 prospects are too good for him, and Atlanta isn't going to take less. Until we are proven otherwise I think theres almost no chance Teheran goes to Fenway

[adamj2281]

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What do you think it would take to get Longoria?

Rays are out of it at the deadline, traded Matt Moore, not in full rebuild, but........it's tempting to ponder.

[AC]

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Benintendi is one of the best prospects in the league. Teheran is a below league average pitcher on his career. This is easily the most maddening thing about this thread. Pitching in Turner and facing a free strikeout or two or three per game does not make you a #2.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Benintendi is one of the best prospects in the league. Teheran is a below league average pitcher on his career. This is easily the most maddening thing about this thread. Pitching in Turner and facing a free strikeout or two or three per game does not make you a #2.

I think below average is a bit strong. I never said he was worth Benintendi I actually said Benintendi was a bit more valuable. But it takes a while lot in a trade to get a young cost controlled pitcher who has shown he can be at least a #3 and had a top prospect pedigree

[cubsgocontinental23]

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Hey guys, looking to make some trades at the deadline in my 30 team control. Just wanted to get your guys' opinion on some of the bigger ones in the earlier stage of the deadline.

White Sox get: Rick Porcello(2.90 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 2.68 WAR, 3.45 FIP, 81 K, 130.1 IP)+13.1 Million(a.k.a John Danks to Red Sox and release him)
Red Sox get: Spencer Adams - A, Courtney Hawkins - AA (.234/.323/.355, 346 AB, 11 HR, 43 RBI), Tyler Saladino - MLB (.241/.292/.349, 83 AB, 1 HR, 4 RBI)

Nationals get: Jake McGee(28.2 IP, 29 SO, 2.51 ERA, 17 SV, 4 BSV, 1.12 WHIP)
Rockies get: Reynaldo Lopez - AAA (2.95 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 93 SO, 94.2 IP), AJ Cole - AAA (3.32 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 83 SO, 1116.2 IP)

Rangers get: Tyler Flowers(239 AB, .305/.365/.510, 14 HR, 42 RBI, 2.51 WAR)
Braves get: Travis Demeritte - AA (15 AB, .200/.333/.533, 1 HR, 3 RBI), Ronald Guzman - AA (81 AB, .210/.297/.258, 0 HR, 4 RBI)

Reasoning:
Porcello trade: The White Sox are 4 back of the Tigers and 1.5 in the WC race. Their back and middle of the rotation are struggling heavily, and the Red Sox are out of the race. The reason for giving up so much was because of the salary dump.
McGee trade: The Nats currently have the most BSV's in the league with 17. I think McGee can bolster that back end of the bullpen and they can steal the division back from the Mets. Reynaldo seems like a bullpen guy in the end anyway and Cole is kind of an extra that could maybe be a 3-4 max.
Flowers trade: Originally Guzman was not in the deal, but since Flowers is tearing the cover off the ball and Chirinos is out for 2 months I thought hey why not make them a little desperate, due to them currently leading the WC at 53-45.

[AC]

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I think below average is a bit strong. I never said he was worth Benintendi I actually said Benintendi was a bit more valuable. But it takes a while lot in a trade to get a young cost controlled pitcher who has shown he can be at least a #3 and had a top prospect pedigree

He has a 98 xFIP- this year and 103 on his career. 3.84 unadjusted SIERA. Him and Chris Tillman are my least favorite pitchers to discuss. I don't know what average is if it's not 98 this year and 103 on his career.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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He has a 98 xFIP- this year and 103 on his career. 3.84 unadjusted SIERA. Him and Chris Tillman are my least favorite pitchers to discuss. I don't know what average is if it's not 98 this year and 103 on his career.

I get what you're saying and I agree he isn't an ace but that SIERA has him at 21st in all qualifying pitchers. If that's below average there arent very many average pitchers in baseball. Plus contracts do matter a lot with value.

Regardless Braves fans expect too much in return for him

[AC]

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I get what you're saying and I agree he isn't an ace but that SIERA has him at 21st in all qualifying pitchers. If that's below average there arent very many average pitchers in baseball. Plus contracts do matter a lot with value.

Regardless Braves fans expect too much in return for him

Yes and he's just in front of Verlander, Tanaka, Hendricks and Ray. You could say Tanaka is a #2, but SIERA is an unadjusted stat and New York is probably 5-6% tougher to pitch in as a park than Turner PLUS the DH, same with Comerica. Wrigley and Chase much harder as well.

If you make the proper adjustments to any of his stats, he is average. A #3.

[CBoller1331]

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What do you think it would take to get Longoria?

Rays are out of it at the deadline, traded Matt Moore, not in full rebuild, but........it's tempting to ponder.

I dont see a situation which Evan Longoria gets traded any time soon. He's the face of the franchise, and IRL has regained his power stroke and is playing really well.

[gwtayl]

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Hey guys, looking to make some trades at the deadline in my 30 team control. Just wanted to get your guys' opinion on some of the bigger ones in the earlier stage of the deadline.

White Sox get: Rick Porcello(2.90 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 2.68 WAR, 3.45 FIP, 81 K, 130.1 IP)+13.1 Million(a.k.a John Danks to Red Sox and release him)
Red Sox get: Spencer Adams - A, Courtney Hawkins - AA (.234/.323/.355, 346 AB, 11 HR, 43 RBI), Tyler Saladino - MLB (.241/.292/.349, 83 AB, 1 HR, 4 RBI)

Nationals get: Jake McGee(28.2 IP, 29 SO, 2.51 ERA, 17 SV, 4 BSV, 1.12 WHIP)
Rockies get: Reynaldo Lopez - AAA (2.95 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 93 SO, 94.2 IP), AJ Cole - AAA (3.32 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 83 SO, 1116.2 IP)

Rangers get: Tyler Flowers(239 AB, .305/.365/.510, 14 HR, 42 RBI, 2.51 WAR)
Braves get: Travis Demeritte - AA (15 AB, .200/.333/.533, 1 HR, 3 RBI), Ronald Guzman - AA (81 AB, .210/.297/.258, 0 HR, 4 RBI)

Reasoning:
Porcello trade: The White Sox are 4 back of the Tigers and 1.5 in the WC race. Their back and middle of the rotation are struggling heavily, and the Red Sox are out of the race. The reason for giving up so much was because of the salary dump.
McGee trade: The Nats currently have the most BSV's in the league with 17. I think McGee can bolster that back end of the bullpen and they can steal the division back from the Mets. Reynaldo seems like a bullpen guy in the end anyway and Cole is kind of an extra that could maybe be a 3-4 max.
Flowers trade: Originally Guzman was not in the deal, but since Flowers is tearing the cover off the ball and Chirinos is out for 2 months I thought hey why not make them a little desperate, due to them currently leading the WC at 53-45.

Although they will make a move for a closer, I can't see the Nats moving Lopez. He has been too good this year (IRL). If they were leading the Mets and looked like they were very strong, I can see it. But I have a hard time with it when they have ground to make up and aren't sure things.

[cubsgocontinental23]

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Although they will make a move for a closer, I can't see the Nats moving Lopez. He has been too good this year (IRL). If they were leading the Mets and looked like they were very strong, I can see it. But I have a hard time with it when they have ground to make up and aren't sure things.

Honestly the whole team, outside of Gio, has looked very strong. They have lost something like 10 games due to their bullpen blowing it. They also are still within range of catching the Mets in the East

[gwtayl]

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Honestly the whole team, outside of Gio, has looked very strong. They have lost something like 10 games due to their bullpen blowing it. They also are still within range of catching the Mets in the East

It's just tough. Outside of Giolito, Lopez and Voth are the next two bigtime P prospects. Would be tough for me as a Nats fan. I would throw another reliever in there as closer before I traded him--unless you told me I was getting Chapman or Miller. Then I would be OK with it. McGee....not as impressive.