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  • Kahler77
    Rookie
    • May 2015
    • 145

    #4231
    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by tcsox11
    Week before the deadline in my Red Sox franchise, its a madhouse for the wild card spots with about 8 teams within 6 games. I need an upgrade in my pen as i am looking for a lefty reliever. I was thinking JP Howell but the Dodgers are in contention so that does not help them. McGee from Colorado was another option but he's out for the season. I was also thinking Diekman but I am unsure of what his price is. Texas is in it but he's been terrible for them so I don't think they would mind trading him. I like his abilities so I am confident that if I get him he will be useful. Thanks
    I think the rangers willingness to trade him depends on how holland and cotts are doing at AAA or majors stats wise. Any team contending is going to want at least one lefty in the pen and diekman although not having a great year is the best they have right now. Some other options depnding on standings would be
    Oak Doolittle
    Sea Furbush
    Mia Dunn
    Pit Bastardo
    ST.L Duke
    Ari Chafin
    Det J.Wilson

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    • Kahler77
      Rookie
      • May 2015
      • 145

      #4232
      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Mattchu12
      As the Yankees with both Gary Sanchez and Brian McCann on my roster, I don't want to waste a spot for just a back-up catcher that probably will never play, so I was wanting to get someone that can play catcher in a pinch if I ever needed it for some reason.

      I was thinking about Peter O'Brien since I can use him in other spots as well as a pinch-hitter. He hit .216/.266/.393 with 22 HR, 69 RBI, and 1 SB for a -0.63 ShowWAR due to horrible defense and 153K's in just 514 at-bats, I imagine.
      What's it take to get him?
      Not entirely sure on Obriens value. Id imagine a prospect on the same level maybe a pitching prospect as arizona has clearly been highly valuing pitching of late. Also Jordan Pacheo is another option who is slightly older and would be very cheap can catch and play any infield position other then short.

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      • tcsox11
        Rookie
        • Jul 2013
        • 185

        #4233
        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Kahler77
        I think the rangers willingness to trade him depends on how holland and cotts are doing at AAA or majors stats wise. Any team contending is going to want at least one lefty in the pen and diekman although not having a great year is the best they have right now. Some other options depnding on standings would be
        Oak Doolittle
        Sea Furbush
        Mia Dunn
        Pit Bastardo
        ST.L Duke
        Ari Chafin
        Det J.Wilson
        Thanks. I will look into these. What would be the highest price I would have to pay for any of them including Diekman?

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        • Mattchu12
          Pro
          • Feb 2007
          • 648

          #4234
          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Kahler77
          Not entirely sure on Obriens value. Id imagine a prospect on the same level maybe a pitching prospect as arizona has clearly been highly valuing pitching of late. Also Jordan Pacheo is another option who is slightly older and would be very cheap can catch and play any infield position other then short.
          Pacheco is kind of my backup option. O'Brien is nice because he can catch, he also has that raw power. He's someone I could see being a legit DH option rather than just an insurance policy in case of injury.

          O'Brien went to ARI for Prado went they thought he could catch full time, now that they know he can't, i would think his value would be similar to another power guy without a position in Dan Vogelbach. He netted Mine Montgomery, who was a guy at the time who couldn't figure out if he was a starter or a reliever. Is Bryan Mitchell a fair comparison and value then?

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          • Kahler77
            Rookie
            • May 2015
            • 145

            #4235
            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by tcsox11
            Thanks. I will look into these. What would be the highest price I would have to pay for any of them including Diekman?
            highest is tough to say where are each team in the standings and what are the stats of these guys?

            This year the mets traded bastardo for Niese and Duke netted the whitesox tilson as he was pitching pretty well. A lot of what you would have to give up depends on the teams position in standings and the pitchers stats so if I can get those I could give you a better proximation on each guy

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            • Kahler77
              Rookie
              • May 2015
              • 145

              #4236
              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Mattchu12
              Pacheco is kind of my backup option. O'Brien is nice because he can catch, he also has that raw power. He's someone I could see being a legit DH option rather than just an insurance policy in case of injury.
              O'Brien went to ARI for Prado went they thought he could catch full time, now that they know he can't, i would think his value would be similar to another power guy without a position in Dan Vogelbach. He netted Mine Montgomery, who was a guy at the time who couldn't figure out if he was a starter or a reliever. Is Bryan Mitchell a fair comparison and value then?
              I would say that would be a good deal for both sides. Mitchell gives the dbacks a guy who can pitch out of their pen now and if any injuries happen can jump over and start. Or if they decide to rebuild he can start sooner then later.

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              • tcsox11
                Rookie
                • Jul 2013
                • 185

                #4237
                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Kahler77
                highest is tough to say where are each team in the standings and what are the stats of these guys?

                This year the mets traded bastardo for Niese and Duke netted the whitesox tilson as he was pitching pretty well. A lot of what you would have to give up depends on the teams position in standings and the pitchers stats so if I can get those I could give you a better proximation on each guy
                Teams out of it: Rays, White Sox, Rangers (10 GB in WC), Mariners 8.5 GB and Twins 8 GB...Reds, Padres, Brewers, Marlins, Cardinals, Rockies, Braves, Phillies

                For Texas, Holland is their 5th starter, 4.37 era in 115 innings. 1.46 WAR, 4.16 FIP. 6.95 k/9 and 3.28 bb/9 with a 1.09 hr/9. Diekman 27 IP, 21 BB 39 K. 7.90 era, 2.90 whip. -.04 war, 12.84 k/9 6.91 bb/9 1.65 hr/9 and 4.83 FIP.

                Howell has a 2.36 era in 35 innings for LA. They have a couple guys pitching well in AAA that could replace him but I don't see them trading him
                Last edited by tcsox11; 11-12-2016, 04:15 PM. Reason: Forgot stats

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                • Kahler77
                  Rookie
                  • May 2015
                  • 145

                  #4238
                  Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by tcsox11
                  Teams out of it: Rays, White Sox, Rangers (10 GB in WC), Mariners 8.5 GB and Twins 8 GB...Reds, Padres, Brewers, Marlins, Cardinals, Rockies, Braves, Phillies
                  For Texas, Holland is their 5th starter, 4.37 era in 115 innings. 1.46 WAR, 4.16 FIP. 6.95 k/9 and 3.28 bb/9 with a 1.09 hr/9. Diekman 27 IP, 21 BB 39 K. 7.90 era, 2.90 whip. -.04 war, 12.84 k/9 6.91 bb/9 1.65 hr/9 and 4.83 FIP.
                  Howell has a 2.36 era in 35 innings for LA. They have a couple guys pitching well in AAA that could replace him but I don't see them trading him
                  Yah Howell like that on a contending team isnt going to happen Diekman on a rangers team 10 games out with that stat line however I could def see happening. Least you would have to give up would be another arm that is struggling with maybe better stats I mean mets only got jon niese for a struggling bastardo and Benoit only netted the mariners storen. at most you give a prospect on the level of Tilson but with that stat line i think something more like niese or storen is fair. at absolute most prospect with how he is playing mike miller could net you him. if you are really high you could give him swihart but thats an overpay in my opinion

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                  • tcsox11
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 185

                    #4239
                    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Kahler77
                    Yah Howell like that on a contending team isnt going to happen Diekman on a rangers team 10 games out with that stat line however I could def see happening. Least you would have to give up would be another arm that is struggling with maybe better stats I mean mets only got jon niese for a struggling bastardo and Benoit only netted the mariners storen. at most you give a prospect on the level of Tilson but with that stat line i think something more like niese or storen is fair. at absolute most prospect with how he is playing mike miller could net you him. if you are really high you could give him swihart but thats an overpay in my opinion
                    Sounds good to me, thank you

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                    • statdude
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 754

                      #4240
                      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Trying to swing a deal for Erick Aybar at the deadline. He's slashing .260/.314/.323 with a WAR of 1.37. What is a package looking like for him? Two Mid C's?

                      I'm also looking at a trade for Francisco Liriano who has 9.1 million who will be a FA after next year. He's having a good year but on a team that is 16 games below .500.

                      Stats:
                      5-6 107.0 IP 111 K 1.16 WHIP 3.53 ERA 3.05 FIP 2.56 WAR

                      So everyone knows, my top assets 25 Y.O. or younger across all levels are as follows:

                      1. Stephen Piscotty
                      2. Carson Fulmer
                      3. Arodys Vizcaino
                      4. Brett Phillips
                      5. Hunter Renfroe
                      6. Cole Tucker
                      7. Jomar Reyes
                      8. Keone Kela
                      9. Rob Refsnyder
                      10. Wei-Chieh Huang
                      11. Domingo Leyba
                      12. Drew Dosch
                      13. Oscar Mercado
                      14. Jose Urena
                      15. Jamie Westbrook
                      16. Yohander Mendez
                      Last edited by statdude; 11-15-2016, 11:23 PM.

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                      • JDiaz1
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 193

                        #4241
                        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                        How does this trade sound? (30 team control in July 2016)

                        Oakland:
                        Travis Shaw (.268/.362/.439, 15 HR)

                        Boston:
                        Liam Hendriks (40.2 IP, 2.01 ERA, 53 K, 0.98 WHIP)

                        Boston's pen outside of Ziegler, Kimbrel, and Uehara are struggling. Hendriks will give them a controllable pen arm which will help considering Tazawa, Uehara, and Ziegler are all free agents. Also, Boston has Sandoval/Hanley at the corners. Whereas Alonso has been struggling for Oakland.

                        Is it fair or should I add a bit more going to Boston?

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                        • Bard
                          YouTube: NHBard
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 7803

                          #4242
                          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by JDiaz1
                          How does this trade sound? (30 team control in July 2016)

                          Oakland:
                          Travis Shaw (.268/.362/.439, 15 HR)

                          Boston:
                          Liam Hendriks (40.2 IP, 2.01 ERA, 53 K, 0.98 WHIP)

                          Boston's pen outside of Ziegler, Kimbrel, and Uehara are struggling. Hendriks will give them a controllable pen arm which will help considering Tazawa, Uehara, and Ziegler are all free agents. Also, Boston has Sandoval/Hanley at the corners. Whereas Alonso has been struggling for Oakland.

                          Is it fair or should I add a bit more going to Boston?
                          They both are ~1 WAR players, both fit needs for each team. No need to add for either side, pretty fair swap.
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                          • Bard
                            YouTube: NHBard
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 7803

                            #4243
                            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by statdude
                            Trying to swing a deal for Erick Aybar at the deadline. He's slashing .260/.314/.323 with a WAR of 1.37. What is a package looking like for him? Two Mid C's?

                            I'm also looking at a trade for Francisco Liriano who has 9.1 million who will be a FA after next year. He's having a good year but on a team that is 16 games below .500.

                            Stats:
                            5-6 107.0 IP 111 K 1.16 WHIP 3.53 ERA 3.05 FIP 2.56 WAR

                            So everyone knows, my top assets 25 Y.O. or younger across all levels are as follows:

                            1. Stephen Piscotty
                            2. Carson Fulmer
                            3. Arodys Vizcaino
                            4. Brett Phillips
                            5. Hunter Renfroe
                            6. Cole Tucker
                            7. Jomar Reyes
                            8. Keone Kela
                            9. Rob Refsnyder
                            10. Wei-Chieh Huang
                            11. Domingo Leyba
                            12. Drew Dosch
                            13. Oscar Mercado
                            14. Jose Urena
                            15. Jamie Westbrook
                            16. Yohander Mendez
                            Sorry for the double post, but might as well do this one too.

                            Probably one low C for Aybar. He isn't anything special, and nobody will give up much for him. Best bet is a lotto ticket from a team that REALLY needs an infielder.

                            Liriano on a bad team, putting up decent numbers, but is a FA to be could net two high/mid C's.
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                            • statdude
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 754

                              #4244
                              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Bard
                              Sorry for the double post, but might as well do this one too.

                              Probably one low C for Aybar. He isn't anything special, and nobody will give up much for him. Best bet is a lotto ticket from a team that REALLY needs an infielder.

                              Liriano on a bad team, putting up decent numbers, but is a FA to be could net two high/mid C's.
                              For Liriano, would Cole Tucker and Rob Refsnyder get it done? Or would I have to include someone like Renfroe? Also, Liriano has this year and next year remaining in his contract. So I'd have him for the rest of this season, and all of next year
                              Last edited by statdude; 11-16-2016, 05:38 PM.

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                              • Bard
                                YouTube: NHBard
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 7803

                                #4245
                                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by statdude
                                For Liriano, would Cole Tucker and Rob Refsnyder get it done? Or would I have to include someone like Renfroe? Also, Liriano has this year and next year remaining in his contract. So I'd have him for the rest of this season, and all of next year
                                Ahh, thought he was in his contract year. That makes him a good bit more valuable with him pitching like a solid #3. Renfroe and Ref/Tucker seems fine by me as long as they are performing decently.
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