MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Scott]

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Hypothetical, what would the trade value of Prince Fielder be if he had his current stats?

[Mattchu12]

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What is the perceived value of Ryan Zimmerman these days? Is he one of those "face of the franchise" types who has really high value? Or is he valued for what he is, an expensive guy who bats in the latter half of the lineup?

[wingles1]

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I'm with the Braves and we are near the All-Star break about 10 games under .500. Our offense has been productive but the starting pitching has been god awful except for Tehran and Manny Banuelos who was a late call up. My other starters (Folty, Wisler, Blair, Norris) haven't panned out and I'm looking to improve, hopefully for the future.

Any trade ideas to help improve rotation. I'm up for anything especially trading Markakis who many teams are interested in. There is a possible deal of sending Markakis to the Giants for Chris Heston and Kyle Blanks, should I go for it?

[redsoxfan31]

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Does Rusney Castillo have any value anymore? I was pumped when the Sox signed him but would've rather had Jose Abreu (reason Castillo was even signed) and I'd rather get rid of him and his rather large contract for a depth LF with my roster configuration

[pootytang]

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Did you really necro your own post from 25 pages back to try to prove that Archer is so valuable? Archer is good, but there are a number of more valuable pitchers, and when Kershaw was brought up it was always in a surplus value sense not a trade sense because there is an absolute 0 percent chance he would ever be traded.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...603,11762,9434

Check out the FIP and WAR. Please try to give a rational explanation of how Archer is the "most valuable" without saying "because he is Chris Archer" There are other pitchers I could have used but this was just a starting point. The only player with a worse WAR or FIP on this list which is 2015 and 2016 so there's no SSS complaints is Matt Harvey, a guy who was coming back from TJ all of last season.

Chill out dude. You were wrong about Kershaw, no big deal. Happens to everyone. I promise not to hold it against you

[k_mac]

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What value would Brett Lawrie have? He's hitting .281 with 16 HR 49 RBI for the White Sox at the trade deadline of 2017 in my franchise. He hit .235 10/47 in 2016. He's making just over $3M with no arbitration years left.


Separate trade, what would the White Sox fetch for Sale at the 2017 deadline? His 2016 numbers were very similar to real life 2015 numbers, and he's currently got a 2.65 ERA with 113 Ks in 119 IP with a 2.51 FIP (according to the game).

Any areas of need or certain positions you're looking for? Sale could absolutely command pretty much any prospect package you'd like, even in 2017. Red Sox for Moncada + Benintendi + whoever else could be intriguing. Package around Schwarber ++ from the Cubs (probably not, but it could be a fair trade even if it isn't super realistic).

I think a rental Lawrie hitting .281 with 16 dingers could nab a low B potential prospect maybe with a lottery type of guy thrown in. Possibly more depending on how desperately a team needs him.

[Nulap]

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Chill out dude. You were wrong about Kershaw, no big deal. Happens to everyone. I promise not to hold it against you

FFS, you're both pretty.

[pootytang]

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1. I forgot about Kershaw's contract clause so that's a technical point, but Kershaw has more surplus value, especially considering scarcity. Which is the point I was making.

As proven, and of course ignored by a select few in this thread, Archer produced more surplus value last year and has a ton more surplus value over the course of his contract. Therefore, and this is what started it all, Archer is arguably the most valuable pitcher in baseball.

[Nulap]

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As proven, and of course ignored by a select few in this thread, Archer produced more surplus value last year and has a ton more surplus value over the course of his contract. Therefore, and this is what started it all, Archer is arguably the most valuable pitcher in baseball.

Key word "arguably".

[pootytang]

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So with the Twins we are having a decent season so far. If you guys want to follow, I am posting in my dynasty section if interested. But as of right now my need is an OF. I was going to go after Juan lagares but I couldn't get the money all to work with what I was wiling to give up for him, plus he is just an average talent and I need some more pop in my lineup but I could revisit this trade later on in the season unless he gets dealt before then. How the season is going, my starting 3B in Trevor Plouffe is having a bad start to the season and with that being said I decided to start Sano back at his old position at 3B. With this move being made, it opens up a spot in RF. I was looking at some players I could get cheaply and not have to over pay and the one that caught my eye is Steven Souza Jr. What would it take to get Souza? I looked at the rays and they lost Longoria for 2-3 months and are weak at SS so I was going to offer them PLouffe as he can play both of them positions. I figured he just needs a fresh new scenery as he is a solid player.

Souza was the centerpiece of the Will Myers trade so Rays would be reluctant to move him unless they're obviously on the winning side of the trade.

Rays wouldn't want Plouffe, although he has a good deal of value, and definitely not in exchange for Souza.

[pootytang]

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Key word "arguably".

And in my original post I wrote "Archer might be the most valuable pitcher in baseball" and was attacked by the usual suspects.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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As proven, and of course ignored by a select few in this thread, Archer produced more surplus value last year and has a ton more surplus value over the course of his contract. Therefore, and this is what started it all, Archer is arguably the most valuable pitcher in baseball.

You're right, Archer did have more surplus value than Kershaw by a slight margin. If we add in this year it's not close though.

Oh yeah and Chris Sale had more surplus value in 2015 if we're being petty. And Jake Arrieta crushed them all with over $54 million in surplus value

[Nulap]

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And in my original post I wrote "Archer might be the most valuable pitcher in baseball" and was attacked by the usual suspects.

Well at least you're all living up to the arguably part, that's all that counts.

[redsoxfan31]

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You're right, Archer did have more surplus value than Kershaw by a slight margin. If we add in this year it's not close though.

Oh yeah and Chris Sale had more surplus value in 2015 if we're being petty.

Completely unrelated but I have Chris Sale and Clayton Kershaw on my fantasy baseball team with my friends, haha their points are crazy

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Does Rusney Castillo have any value anymore? I was pumped when the Sox signed him but would've rather had Jose Abreu (reason Castillo was even signed) and I'd rather get rid of him and his rather large contract for a depth LF with my roster configuration

I think it would take either Castillo coming back to the majors and producing for a bit or the Sox eating a big deal of the contract. What are his stats in which level and what teams need OF help. He could be interesting on a rebuilding team like the Phillies, Braves, Padres etc.