MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

[Smallville102001]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

Everybody always thinks that modes or features they are not interested in seem pointless.

If it brings in a few more fans to the game then it is not pointless. If it allows me or anyone to have friends over who do not own the game over and lets to jump into a fun head to head game without me dominating then it is not pointless.

It also seems like some people seem to believe that a stock PS4 has unlimited graphic and computing power. It wasn't even comparable to a good gaming PC when it came out 3 years ago.

It fells like a gimmick to me because it is not something that helps the game to play a better more realistic game or that gives more control options or camera options.


I don't think people think ps4 has unlimited graphic and computing power. The problem is last gen mlb the show was by far the best looking game and now it is far behind NBA 2k and NHL and even behind madden when it comes to just graphics and mlb out side of its lighting hardly looks better then it did on ps3. There are a lot of other games/franchises where the jump from ps3 to ps4 or from xbox360 to xboxone was much bigger then the graphic jump of the show on ps3 to ps4.

[Smallville102001]

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How is it going to be inferior?? outside of slightly better video resolution and load times, what else is the pro going to have over the original? its not like the pro is going to have new player models or more fans in the stands. Too many people have a huge misconception about the Pro like its suppose to be the ps5 or something..

I don't like this whole mid gen upgrade thing and if I had known this was going to happened years ago I may have just wanted and not go a ps4 in till pro came out. As a result I may want when ps5 comes out to get one for a few years to make sure we don't get a ps5 pro or something.

[viperman240]

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Strictly watching the stream ...

Unfortunately, what I'm most disappointed in is the team not removing animations that simply doesn't fit (and secondly, implementing new animations that looks awkward). More animations added annually is great, but if the ones that sticks out (fielding*, pitching*, etc.) doesn't get redone or completely removed, to me it simply overshadows the work that was done for 17'.

*fielding: outfielder throwing the ball back into the infield; the way the first baseman cocks his arm way above his head to start tossing the ball around the horn; the way the third baseman starts the double play. Immediately after an out, the fielders sort of come to a complete semi-motionless stop for a split second.

*pitching: the pitcher's follow through is still rather slow. The whip of the arm still doesn't exude power, force, strength. Pitcher's whole body follow through doesn't "fall" with proper momentum. Pitching is a whole body motion, and visually it's simply missing that element.

I'll keep tab on 17's info and based on what I've seen, I'll hold off on another year. Happy for those that will enjoy the game, but I'll see if 18' fixes my concerns.

I agree 100% with you on the pitching. The arm just doesn't have that exploding factor after they release the ball, it doesn't whip to the side with speed or momentum.

As for the graphics I don't think the show will get any better then this, apart from slight improvements. They've been using an in-house engine meant for the ps3 and have only been upgrading it, doing so will only take you so far. If we want The Show to be on par or surpass other sports games in the graphics department they would have to use a different engine like the other sports games have done.

I think it would be best if SDS uses another 1st party studios engine rather then building one from scratch (as it takes too much time and resources to make a brand new engine).

I would say the Killzone/Horizon/Death Stranding engine would be the best choice to replace the current engine being used.

[tnixen]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

Strictly watching the stream ...

Unfortunately, what I'm most disappointed in is the team not removing animations that simply doesn't fit (and secondly, implementing new animations that looks awkward). More animations added annually is great, but if the ones that sticks out (fielding*, pitching*, etc.) doesn't get redone or completely removed, to me it simply overshadows the work that was done for 17'.

*fielding: outfielder throwing the ball back into the infield; the way the first baseman cocks his arm way above his head to start tossing the ball around the horn; the way the third baseman starts the double play. Immediately after an out, the fielders sort of come to a complete semi-motionless stop for a split second.

*pitching: the pitcher's follow through is still rather slow. The whip of the arm still doesn't exude power, force, strength. Pitcher's whole body follow through doesn't "fall" with proper momentum. Pitching is a whole body motion, and visually it's simply missing that element.

I'll keep tab on 17's info and based on what I've seen, I'll hold off on another year. Happy for those that will enjoy the game, but I'll see if 18' fixes my concerns.

E mail them your ideas on not removing animations that simply doesn't fit.

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I agree with you

[Caulfield]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

Strictly watching the stream ...


*fielding: outfielder throwing the ball back into the infield; the way the first baseman cocks his arm way above his head to start tossing the ball around the horn; the way the third baseman starts the double play. Immediately after an out, the fielders sort of come to a complete semi-motionless stop for a split second.

*pitching: the pitcher's follow through is still rather slow. The whip of the arm still doesn't exude power, force, strength. Pitcher's whole body follow through doesn't "fall" with proper momentum. Pitching is a whole body motion, and visually it's simply missing that element.

I'll keep tab on 17's info and based on what I've seen, I'll hold off on another year. Happy for those that will enjoy the game, but I'll see if 18' fixes my concerns.

I Would like to see this addressed too but for me personally they are just not dealbreakers.
I could continue to play 16 (or even 14 or 15) for another year or two, if I had to, but fortunately the price of admission to 17 isnt so great that I cant not buy in, just because of the new things I'm looking forward to. And thats just based on whats been revealed so far. More goodness yet to be announced between now and release date

[NAFBUC]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

I don't know if anyone else caught it, but there was a moment towards the beginning, when they were showing off the new ball physics, where you see a little bug pop up that says something along the lines of: Arrietta vs. Kipnis 2-24 (.167) Hopefully, this is part of the new career stats presentation!

Nice catch Dillion......very excited about the possibilities of additional game time stats!

Also hoping to see an extended boxscore. (my yearly #1 wish)

[nemesis04]

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Also hoping to see an extended boxscore. (my yearly #1 wish)

That one goes way back!

[Black59Razr]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

That hit variety looks amazing. This may totally change everything. Looks like 5-10 balls in play will go from outs to hits this year. Plus, with more human AI, 2-3 singles will turn into extra base hits now.

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[OUSOONERS#1]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

That hit variety looks amazing. This may totally change everything. Looks like 5-10 balls in play will go from outs to hits this year. Plus, with more human AI, 2-3 singles will turn into extra base hits now.

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I will have to wait and play it for myself against the computer before I can judge the new ball physics as I only seen two maybe three different hit types so far .. I am hoping we get alot more variation of the ball of the bat then we have had the last 6 games of this series !!

[MythicalGnome]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

I don't like this whole mid gen upgrade thing and if I had known this was going to happened years ago I may have just wanted and not go a ps4 in till pro came out. As a result I may want when ps5 comes out to get one for a few years to make sure we don't get a ps5 pro or something.

All you really need to do is pay attention to AMD at this point and when they go to a new nanometer node for chip design. It all depends on the level of gain. The PS4 launched right when it was pretty obvious to many in the tech crowd that there would be huge gains to be seen in a couple years with the move to 14 and 16nm design.

Who knows if that will happen with the PS5. I sold my PS4 OG for 280 on Ebay months before the announcement of the PS4 Pro so I got max cash even with the free. The upgrade was very much worth it to me.

[grizzly4]

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I've always wanted more realistic hits, just didn't know exactly what could be ddone about it.

If it wasnt a rope liner or a dribbler, hits were hard To come by. I'm excited for hooking/slicing balls down the line, and bloop singles. I play the show a lot, but I'm not good enough to be able to pitch on Hall of Fame difficulty and regularly give up 6 or less hits. Will add a completely new feel if you ask me.

The Arrieta sleeves are promising, as minuscule as it may seem right now. Just goes to show the level of research and implementation they are capable of.

As for Heywards new stance, it looks off from where it was last year. I know he has been re-tooling in Arizona all offseason, so maybe they noticed something I haven't.

All that being said, I'm going to buy this game and play the crap out of it, just like every year. Too much nit picking would make the GAME less enjoyable, but to each their own.

[Smallville102001]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

All you really need to do is pay attention to AMD at this point and when they go to a new nanometer node for chip design. It all depends on the level of gain. The PS4 launched right when it was pretty obvious to many in the tech crowd that there would be huge gains to be seen in a couple years with the move to 14 and 16nm design.

Who knows if that will happen with the PS5. I sold my PS4 OG for 280 on Ebay months before the announcement of the PS4 Pro so I got max cash even with the free. The upgrade was very much worth it to me.

I don't know a lot about tech I just know a lot of people said when ps3 came out it was pretty powerful for its time and that ps4 was kind of weak for its time when it came out. But considering we have never had something like this happened before when it comes to a mid gen upgrade there was really no way to know if this kind of thing was going to happened. When it comes to graphics on this game they should be much better though. Mlb ps3 was the best looking sports game by far. Now on ps4 it may be the worst. We may have to wait for ps5 for this game to really get a big upgrade in its graphics. Then what? Is mlb on ps5 going to look more like a ps4 game? The game really does need to have a jump in graphics because it is like easily the worst part of this game. Its game play is just about perfect out side of CPU management when it comes to pitching changes.

[countryboy]

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Getting back to the stream, I was really hoping to hear that Retro Mode would be online.


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[baseball_fever]

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Boy I can not WAIT for the moment when they tell us that they have put back regular season stats for the batter EACH time they come to the plate. Rather then only showing their stats for that particular day.

[inkcil]

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As for the graphics I don't think the show will get any better then this, apart from slight improvements. They've been using an in-house engine meant for the ps3 and have only been upgrading it, doing so will only take you so far. If we want The Show to be on par or surpass other sports games in the graphics department they would have to use a different engine like the other sports games have done.

I think it would be best if SDS uses another 1st party studios engine rather then building one from scratch (as it takes too much time and resources to make a brand new engine).

I would say the Killzone/Horizon/Death Stranding engine would be the best choice to replace the current engine being used.

That's what I don't get...why didn't they take advantage of the opportunity provided by a new generation of hardware to reinvent the graphics above and beyond the "look, style and feel" of the PS3 (a la NBA 2k, Fifa and Madden)? However, I'm still holding out hope that somehow something graphically impressive is in store for us this year.